THE ART OF THE CON: The problem our heroes will never discuss!

FRIDAY, MAY 6, 2016

Part 4—Our own tribe's art of the con:
Goofus and Gallant are fighting today in the New York Times.

Their columns appears on the same op-ed page. At issue is the way they regard tens of millions of voters.

Goofus likes to generalize about tens of millions of voters. In his hands, they quickly become Those People. He lets his bombs fly:
GOOFUS: I can almost guarantee that we’ll see attempts to sanitize the positions and motives of Trump supporters, to downplay the racism that is at the heart of the movement and pretend that what voters really care about are the priorities of D.C. insiders—a process I think of as “centrification.”

[...]

Trump support in the primaries was strongly correlated with racial resentment: We’re looking at a movement of white men angry that they no longer dominate American society the way they used to. And to pretend otherwise is to give both the movement and the man who leads it a free pass.
To Goofus, Those People are basically all alike—and, of course, they're evil. Amazingly, it even seems that Those People are all men!

Goofus is willing to generalize wildly as he discusses those people. Gallant is much more granular as he discusses some of their millions of lives:
GALLANT: [E]conomic loss has triggered a series of complex spirals...A few decades ago there were 175,000 coal jobs in the U.S. Now there are 57,000. That economic dislocation has hit local economies in the form of shuttered storefronts and abandoned bank buildings.

Everywhere there are local activists trying to rebuild, but it’s hard to hold off the dislocation, distrust and pessimism. Birthrates drop. Family structures erode. Life expectancy falls. People slip between the cracks and inevitably drug use rises. According to The Charleston Gazette-Mail, between 1999 and 2009, per-capita consumption of oxycodone, hydrocodone and fentanyl tripled. By 2009 West Virginians were annually filling 19 painkiller prescriptions a person.

Heavy opioid use often slides over into heroin use. Heroin overdose deaths tripled between 2009 and 2014. In those years the state had the highest drug overdose death rate in the nation.
West Virginia is a state with lots of Trump supporters. To Goofus, that support reflects only one thing—their virulent "racial resentment." (Warning! Shaky academic construct!)

Gallant describes a wider range of phenomena affecting those voters' lives.

Whatever! In our view, neither Goofus nor Gallant penned an especially insightful column today. Instead of scoring their fight, let's look at Paul Krugman's remarks today about the American press corps—about the way the press may cover the presumed Trump-Clinton fight.

Krugman starts his column discussing this topic. Halfway through, his attention wanders.

This frequently happens when we liberals discuss any part of the press which isn't called "Fox News." We liberals love discussing Fox News. But we have a very hard time focusing on the mainstream press, where some of our heroes reside.

In a way, it's just as well that Krugman's attention wandered. He offered very little of value about the press corps' work regarding Trump and Clinton.

How lazy can work like this get? Krugman speculates about what the press corps may do, while failing to note what they've already done! He names the names of no actual journalists. He names no actual news org.

He offers familiar speculations before his attention wanders. A few of our analysts leaped from their carrels as they read these parts of his column. Some of the youngsters even denounced him as a "grown-ass white man."

It's a term they learned from watching Maddow. We cuffed them aside for using the term, while admitting they had a bit of a point in their complaints about Krugman.

"Mother-f**ker!" one of these young people heatedly cried. "Why speculate about possible coverage? Why not mention the crazy things your own paper has already done?"

We explained that Krugman, a Times employee, possibly maybe can't do that. At the same time, we acknowledged that the fiery young analyst had a tiny bit of a point—for example, about this part of Krugman's column:
KRUGMAN (5/6/16): [O]ne candidate is engaged in wildly irresponsible fantasy while the other is being quite careful with her numbers. But beware of news analyses that, in the name of “balance,” downplay this contrast.
Have you seen any "news analyses" which have "downplayed this contrast" between Trump and Clinton? We aren't sure we have.

We have seen something much more remarkable. We've seen the New York Times and the Washington Post completely ignore Trump's crazy budget proposal, the craziest such proposal in modern political history.

Trump released his crazy proposal last September. But so what? Within the new borders of our "journalism," his proposal barely exists.

It would almost be refreshing to see someone "downplay the contrast" with Clinton's proposals. That said, Krugman doesn't seem to have noticed the amazing way the American "press corps" has disappeared Donald J. Trump's lunatic budget plan.

Trump's lunatic plan has gone unreported. Speculating about what the press corps might do, Krugman declines to note this fact.

The New York Times has worked rather hard to disappear other matters. Amazingly, neither the Times nor the Post has offered a front-page report about the episode which launched Trump's current political career—the astounding, disgraceful birther campaign he launched in 2011.

There has been zero reporting on this disgraceful episode. Did Donald Trump really send investigators to Hawaii to probe the facts of Obama's birth? Were they really amazed by the things they discovered there?

Almost surely, Trump was lying about all parts of that extended story. But the New York Times has agreed to pretend that none of this conduct ever occurred. So has the rest of the stooge-filled guild we still describe as a press corps.

Eventually, we called security to the damp basement where the young analysts sleep at their carrels. This had the expected calming effect. But as they continued, the analysts mentioned the recent episode which has occasioned barely a peep from our liberal world.

We refer to the recent case of Trump's invented fact.

Alas! This recent episode took place at Krugman's own paper, not Over There at Fox News. For that reason, we liberals have barely managed a peep of protest about this peculiar conduct.

Within the span of a week, the Times recited a phony fact Trump has invented. Indeed, the Times recited it three separate times, in three high-profile locations!

It appeared in a news report right at the top of the paper's front page. It appeared in a Maureen Dowd column on the front page of the Sunday Review.

It even appeared in a cover story in the New York Times Sunday magazine. But so what? The liberal world, now including Krugman, yawned and looked away.

Kevin Drum cited one of the recitations, failing to note that it had appeared at the top of the Times front page. In comments to Drum's post, you'll see his readers wander off topic, just as Krugman does today midway through his column.

In a brief post at Slate, Daniel Politi mentioned Dowd's recitation of the fake fact, skipping the other two mentions. Have you seen anyone ask the obvious question:

How can a newspaper like the Times print a plainly bogus fact three different times in just one week, in three high-profile locations? How can such nonsense happen?

How on earth could the New York Times do that? Your liberal heroes will never ask. We love to rail about Fox News. When it comes to the Times, we sleep.

Krugman can't or won't mention this episode because he gets paid by the Times. Other players won't mention it because they want to get paid by the Times.

Donald J. Trump opposed the war in Iraq! As with his claims about the Hawaiian probe, Candidate Trump has rather plainly been lying about this. We saw him do so again last night.

Candidate Trump has been lying about Iraq. But if the New York Times hired a plane to write his claim across the sky, the Krugmans, Chaits and Marshalls would never complain. Or notice!

These people have been conning you in this way for years. Rachel Maddow also knows the art of this familiar con. So does Christopher Hayes and everyone else at their channel.

Will Trump's invented fact matter? Quite possibly, no—it will not.

"Al Gore invented the Internet" is an invented fact which took many lives. If we trust the current polls, "Donald Trump opposed the war in Iraq" may not make a difference.

That said, we liberals are asleep in the woods, as has long been our custom. At Slate, Jamelle Bouie has offered this formulation:
BOUIE (5/4/16): Romney wasn’t a bad candidate. He ran a competent and largely professional campaign against an incumbent who presided over high unemployment and slow growth. No, Romney wasn’t favored, but he also had a better shot than most candidates who run against a sitting president. If you believe that Trump can win—absent an exogenous shock like a terrorist attack or recession—you need to show how he beats Romney. You need to move this from the realm of speculation and into the world as it exists.
In Bouie's judgment, Candidate Trump can't win this year "absent an exogenous shock." That seems to mean that Trump could win in the event of a shock.

(Bouie imagines two types of shock, fails to imagine the possibility that a shock could emerge from the email matter.)

According to Bouie, Candidate Trump is behind. Also according to Bouie, an exogenous shock could make the election close. (We disagree with Bouie's apparent certainty that nothing else could do this.)

If the election gets close, Donald J. Trump's invented fact could tip the scales and let Trump win! But so what? Nothing will ever inspire our leaders to push back against the New York Times—to protest the horrible work by the silly people who work for that ludicrous newspaper.

Dearly beloved, it just isn't done! The Times could write it across the sky. Our heroes and stars wouldn't notice.

The pattern involving our leaders is clear. They'll feed us pabulum about Fox News; we will love them for this. When it comes to the crazy work of the Times, they will do what they've always done:

Our leaders will avert their gaze. Our fiery leaders will clam.

Meekly, we'll accept this. Rachel and Christopher are our heroes. Despite their massive corporate salaries and their possible love of success, we liberals are secure in our knowledge:

These major stars play on our side. They're part of our circle of cable news friends. They play it straight, close to the vest.

59 comments:

  1. Email? The FBI has found no evidence of malicious intent.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecutors-in-virginia-assisting-in-clinton-email-probe/2016/05/05/f0277faa-12f0-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html

    OK, scant evidence. Whatever.

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    1. Glad to know that there was no intent that enemies be able to get confidential info. If there had been intent, Hillary would be guilty of treachery. Without intent, she merely committed a few felonies.

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    2. Without intent, she committed no crime at all, David.

      But you go ahead and believe the fantasy that the people who do your thinking for you want you to believe.

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  2. Bouie's comparison between Romney's chances and Trump's implicitly (explicitly? I haven't yet checked the source) compares Obama and Clinton.

    Once again, one would want to check the data, but were Obama's negatives in 2008 as high as Clintons's are today? I rather doubt it.

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  3. ""Al Gore invented the Internet" is an invented fact which took many lives."

    "took many lives" is an invented "fact" from Bob
    "took many turns in the wrong direction" Somerby.

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  4. Once again Bob Somerby complains of failure to discuss a non-existent budget proposal, proving he either does not know what a budget is, he makes mistakes due to careless laziness like his fellow pretend commentator Rachel Maddow, or deliberately invents/misrepresents facts to support his propaganda.

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    1. Dave the Guitar PlayerMay 6, 2016 at 1:55 PM

      I think Bob might have meant Trump's "tax" proposal. Did that make Bob's point that difficult to follow? Or do you prefer to continue to believe that Bob deliberately makes these gaffes to mislead the American people.

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    2. "I think Bob might have meant ..." ZZZZZZzzzzz.

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    3. Tax receipts are an element of the budget. Trump hasn't released a complete detailed budget of course, but the term is accurate enough in this case for the sake of discussion.

      I've had some success raising doubt in tepid Trump supporters' minds by bring up his non-serious tax proposals. More persuasive I imagine than just declaring "you're a racist", especially when I have no real reason to believe the person is in fact a racist.

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    4. "Trump hasn't released a complete detailed budget of course...."

      Well @ 11:01 allow me to correct you.

      Less than 24 hours after you penned this lazy, dumb, liberal comment the Great Bobinski penned this great truth:

      "Trump released his formal budget proposal late last September."


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  5. Think whatever you like Dave. Bob has repeatedly called "tax" proposals "budget" proposals throughout this election cycle.

    You can ask if "I prefer to continue to believe" something. I quite clearly stated a set of alternatives that indicate I do not prefer a continuation of belief in anything you suggested, an indication of a possible reading problem on your part.

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  6. "Goofus is willing to generalize wildly as he discusses those people."

    Bob Somerby, accusing Paul Krugman of stereotyping.

    "We liberals are cowards and ditto-heads, the emptiest type of camp followers."

    Bob Somerby, gallantly analyzing a group of people he has noted are lazy, of dubious morals, and disliked.

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    1. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with Somerby?

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  8. Donald Trump's reaction and comments to the Central Park Five case were covered in the New Yorker and other places. As a story, it never gained traction. Bob, I don't believe has ever noted the case and Trump's reaction to it.
    It is possible a Trump supporter has never heard of this matter.
    It is possible a Trump supporter has heard of this matter, and is
    familiar with the facts surrounding it.

    The later Trump supporter is a racist asshole.
    If Bob Somerby is familiar with this matter, and downplays
    the "Trump as racist" meme, he is also a racist asshole.

    Now, the first person who I saw go on record as approving
    Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton is a News personality that
    we know Bob knows well.

    But, you wouldn't have heard about it here, because
    "O"Reilly gets a pass."

    Any questions?

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    1. When did O'Reilly become a liberal pundit? Why is being a racist a worse threat to our country than threatening to nuke the Middle East, defaulting on the national debt or being a sexist, for that matter? If you don't think being a sexist is worse thsn being a racist then you are a sexist asshole. How does that feel to you?

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    2. Here's a thought.

      Let's not pretend that Trump's racism has been discussed any more than his sexism or religious bigotry, or his nutty "ideas" if you can call them that about the national debt and national defense.

      And further, if your stated purpose is to discuss "the mainstream 'press corps' and the american discourse" don't give a pass to O'Reilly or anybody else because they are not "liberal pundits."

      Otherwise, drop the facade.

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  9. "Our own tribe's art of the con"

    The only con is BS pretending to be a liberal when he is really an old, angry, conservative, white southerner.


    "Rachel and Christopher are our heroes. Despite their massive corporate salaries"

    Bob exposes his massive jealousy and envy here. He can't handle that he never amounted to anything while Maddow is an award winning journalist.
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    opened up his eyes to see how much i love and wanted him, i really don't
    know how best to be grateful to you Dr Akhere for bringing happiness into
    my life and family, and now i am a joyful woman once again.. here is his
    Email: AKHERETEMPLE@GMAIL.COM


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  22. WELCOME TO DR.AKHERE SPELL TEMPLE(AKHERETEMPLE@GMAIL.COM)

    HELLO ARE YOU IN ANY DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT YOU THINK THAT THE SITUATION YOU ARE PASSING THROUGH CANNOT BE SOLVE AM TELLING YOU NOW THAT YOU SHOULD WORRY NO MORE,I AM DR.HENRY A SPELL CASTER I HAVE DONE SPELL TO DIFFERENT CALIBRE'S OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD SO PANIC NO MORE

    IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE BELOW PROBLEMS,THINK NO MORE BECAUSE YOU HAVE

    NO PROBLEMS AS FAR AS DR HENRY IS CONCERN:::

    GENERAL LOVE SPELLS,

    SPELLS TO MAKE IMPOTENCE PRODUCTIVE,

    SPELLS TO GET YOUR EX BACK,

    SPELLS TO MAKE YOUR WIFE GIVE BIRTH,

    SPELLS TO CAST OUT DEMONS,

    SPELLS FOR PREGNANCY,

    SPELLS FOR SEX,

    SPELLS FOR MARRIAGE,

    SPELLS FOR MONEY,

    SPELLS FOR BUSINESS,

    SPELLS FOR ALL KINDS OF SICKNESS

    IF YOU NEED ANY OF THE ABOVE HELP JUST CONTACT THE GREAT DR AKHERE TEMPLE ON AKHERETEMPLE@GMAIL.COM

    THANK YOU.

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  23. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com he can help you out of that you situation.

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  24. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com he can help you out of that you situation.

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  25. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com he can help you out of that you situation.

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  26. الاول خدماتها تغطى جميع انحاء المملكة فهى افضل شركات التنظيف بجدة ومكة والرياض وينبع والاحساء والدمام نتميز باننا نوفر افضل العماله المدربة الماهرة نقدم تنظيف منازل وخزانات وبيوت وفلل وشقق ومجالس وسجاد وموكيت

    شركة تنظيف منازل بالدمام



    و افضل شركة تنظيف بالمدينة المنورة
    و افضل شركة تنظيف بالطائف
    خطوات سريعة لتنظيف منزلك بالكامل.


    شركة تنظيف خزانات بينبع
    شركة تنظيف بمكة

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  27. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com WhatsApp him +2348165396275. he can help you out of that you situation.

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  28. My name is RIZA PAULINO I want to sincerely appreciate PA OBA for bringing back my ex boyfriend back to me today, my ex boyfriend left me for over five months now and decided to search for a solution online and I saw many good work of this PA OBA. I contacted him on his email and whatsapp, I was so happy PA OBA cast a returned spell on him in just 3 days my boyfriend came back to me and apologize to me for what he has done to me. Today will are living peacefully and we both are preparing for marriage right now, all with the help of PA OBA.

    If you have a similar problem and you are confused and you don't know what to do or where to go,you can contact PA OBA right now on his email: obastarspell@gmail.com or you can message on whatsapp or viber: +2348144748581 he will help you out of that your heart broken problems.

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  29. Am Mr. Anderson, I saw a post
    on how a lady got her man back by Doctor edion. He helped her to get
    her Ex Husband back. My wife divorce me 2 years ago to live with
    another man and i have try to let go of her but i could not, so i try
    to do many things to get her back and she refuse to come back to me. I visit a forum one day for tips to get her back and there i saw a lady
    testifying of how Doctor Edion helped her to get her man back after he was tie down with a spell by another woman and Doctor Edion was the one that help her. Although I never believed in spiritual work I
    reluctantly tried him because I was desperate and i contact him and
    explain my problems to him, to my greatest surprise Doctor Edion helped me to bring back my woman after 2 days and now my relationshipish now perfect just as he promised. Getting your ex back permanently
    spell does not only bring back someone you love but it will also
    re-unite your lovers feelings for you to be as happy with that person.
    My woman now treats me like a king and always say she love me all the time. If you are passing through difficulties in your relationship,
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    Virus, Cancer, E.T.C Email him for urgent help. Email: Ediontempl@gmail.com or WhatsApp +2348165396275

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  30. This is really too amazing. I am NICA AMADO living in USA, My husband left me for good 3 years now, and i love him so much, i have been looking for a way to get him back since then. i have tried many options but he did not come back, until i met a friend that darted me to PA OBA a spell caster, who helped me to bring back my husband after 2 weeks. Me and my husband are living happily together today, PA OBA is really great, and I want to use this opportunity to tell everyone in that PA OBA is really a powerful spell caster. If you are still in my situation right now and you don't know what to do, just try and contact PA OBA now at obastarspell@gmail.com or message him on whatsapp/viber +2348144748581 and that your problem will be resolved once and for all.

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  31. i am Mr. Anderson, I saw a post
    on how a lady got her man back by Doctor edion. He helped her to get
    her Ex Husband back. My wife divorce me 2 years ago to live with
    another man and i have try to let go of her but i could not, so i try
    to do many things to get her back and she refuse to come back to me. I visit a forum one day for tips to get her back and there i saw a lady
    testifying of how Doctor Edion helped her to get her man back after he was tie down with a spell by another woman and Doctor Edion was the one that help her. Although I never believed in spiritual work I
    reluctantly tried him because I was desperate and i contact him and
    explain my problems to him, to my greatest surprise Doctor Edion helped me to bring back my woman after 2 days and now my relationshipish now perfect just as he promised. Getting your ex back permanently
    spell does not only bring back someone you love but it will also
    re-unite your lovers feelings for you to be as happy with that person.
    My woman now treats me like a king and always say she love me all the time. If you are passing through difficulties in your relationship,
    Doctor Edion can help solve marital problems, restore broken
    relationships and He can also cure diseases like Herpes
    Virus, Cancer, E.T.C Email him for urgent help. Email: Ediontempl@gmail.com or WhatsApp +2348165396275.

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  32. Good day friends am here to share my amazing testimony about my ex girlfriend with you all. There is this spell caster called PA OBA, he has finally restored my ex back to me today. Now, i'm the happiest person in the world right now.
    * if you need your ex boyfriend or girlfriend back
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  33. I am so glad to write this article today to tell the world how Chief Dr
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    ever since then my life has been in complete,i have used so many drugs that
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    neither did it reduce the pain, i was checking for solution on the internet
    then miraculously came across Chief Dr Lucky the powerful herbalist that
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  34. Enter your comment...Am Mr. Anderson, I saw a post on how a lady got her man back by Doctor edion. He helped her to get her Ex Husband back. My wife divorce me 2 years ago to live with another man and i have try to let go of her but i could not, so i try to do many things to get her back and she refuse to come back to me. I visit a forum one day for tips to get her back and there i saw a lady testifying of how Doctor Edion helped her to get her man back after he was tie down with a spell by another woman and Doctor Edion was the one that help her. Although I never believed in spiritual work I reluctantly tried him because I was desperate and i contact him and explain my problems to him, to my greatest surprise Doctor Edion helped me to bring back my woman after 2 days and now my relationshipish now perfect just as he promised. Getting your ex back permanently spell does not only bring back someone you love but it will also re-unite your lovers feelings for you to be as happy with that person. My woman now treats me like a king and always say she love me all the time. If you are passing through difficulties in your relationship, Doctor Edion can help solve marital problems, restore broken relationships and He can also cure diseases like HIV, AIDS, Herpes Virus, Cancer, E.T.C Email him for urgent help. Email: Ediontempl@gmail.com or WhatsApp +2348165396275

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  35. Good day friends am here to share my amazing testimony about my ex girlfriend with you all. There is this spell caster called PA OBA, he has finally restored my ex back to me today. Now, i'm the happiest person in the world right now. If are having such problems and you do not know what to do or where to go, just try Pa Oba and contact him on obastarspell@gmail.com or whatsapp/viber +2347037079971 for more info he can help you out of that your problems.

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  36. Good day every one!

    My name is Mrs Rana James am here to share with you my
    lifeexperience on how a great man called Dr. Edion saved my marriage. I have been Married & Barren for over 5 years i had
    no child and i had never missed my period for once not to talk of pregnancy. I was subject to laughter; mockery from my
    Friends & neighbors, i almost lost my marriage because i
    couldn't give my husband a child.I was so confused that i did not know what to do until i came across this great Dr. Edoin online and i contacted him at once i was scared weather it was going to work because i never believed things like this before, so i decided to give it a try and did all he required of me. Today, i am a happy woman with children and i have given birth to twice. Now my marriage that was about crashing is restored My husband love me now more than ever. Am so happy for everything thebest has come to pass in my life since i met Dr. Edion.I want to tell all the women out there who have similar problems and ex problems like if you need boyfriend and girlfriend back. If you need fast money. If you need help to winelottery. If you need extra power.
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  37. Doctor Igodok. Solution to all your problem using traditional spell and herbs. Get immediate help on the following if you need your boyfriend or girlfriend back. if you need fast money. if you want to win lottery.if you want extra power. unemployment. if you need penis enlargement. recovery lost property. women and men problems and all kinds of sickness etc. you can call doctor igodok or whatsapp him on this number +13143914938

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  38. Hi my name is DONA , I never thought I will smile again, My husband left
    me with two kids for one year, All effort to bring him back failed I
    thought I’m not going to see him again not until I met a lady called
    Jesse who told me about a spell caster called dr.alusistanley, She
    gave me his email address and mobile number and I contacted him and he
    assured me that within 3days my husband will come back to me and as
    soon as i was through with what he required of me, In
    less than 3days my husband came back started begging for forgiveness
    saying it is the devils work, so I’m still surprise till now about
    this miracle,i couldn’t conceive but as soon as the spell was cast,i
    became pregnant and gave birth to my third child(Michelle) if you need
    any assistance from him you can contact him via:email
    [dr.alusistanley@gmail.com] or +2347065532974

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  39. Hello am here to testify of a great and powerful spell caster. my Wife left me and my two kids for a couple months, I tried to beg her even I called her, she didn't pick up when she came back home the 3rd week she told me she wanted a divorce I was so sad I cried all night he left again I was so lonely the next day I was searching for something online when i found a spell caster called DR ADEKUNLE, who have helped so many people with their various issues and problems, so I contacted him with my problems he told me it will take 24hrs and my Wife will be back to me I did everything he told me to do and the next day very early my wife came back kneeling and begging she canceled the divorce we are now happy together all thanks to DR ADEKUNLE
    he also cure
    HIV/AIDS,HEPATITIS,LOW SPERM COUNT,CANCER DISEASES,FIBROID DISEASES,GONORRHEA,GONORRHEA,FALLOPIAN TUBE,PREGNANCY,HERPES,lottery spell.
    he can also help you too, contact him directly if you need his assistance on EMAIL:- adekunle.temple@gmail.com
    or whatsapp him +2349059123256

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  40. HOW I GOT MY EX HUSBAND BACK WITH THE HELP OF REAL AND EFFECTIVE SPELL FROM DR  omohan My name is joy, I never thought I will smile again, My husband left me with two kids for one year, All effort to bring him back failed I thought I'm not going to see him again not until I met a lady called Jesse who told me about a spell caster called Dr. omohan, She gave me his email address and mobile number and I contacted him and he assured me that within 48hours my husband will come back to me, In less than 48hours my husband came back started begging for forgiveness saying it is the devils work, so I'm still surprise till now about this miracle,i couldn't conceive but as soon as the spell was cast,i became pregnant and gave birth to my third child,if you need any assistance from him you can contact him via:email: dromohanspell@gmail.com Or WhatsApp or call him now: +2348164816038
    Dr. omohan also cures:
    1. HIV / AIDS
    2. HERPES 1/2
    3. CANCER
    4. ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease)
    5. Hepatitis B  

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  41. Hello everyone out there, help me Thank Dr alus My name is Marx harold from Netherlands. I am here to give testimony on how I got my ex wife back, my wife left me for no reason 6 Months. she moved in with another man, I felt like killing myself, my life became very bitter and sorrowful. Then 1 day, a friend of mine told me about a great spell caster that is very good and she said that he told her all about her life history and the problem she is facing, I didn't believe it because I've worked with so many of them and it didn't work. She begged me further so I decided to try this great spell caster called Great Dr alusi. I still didn't believe, but inside me I wanted to give a try and as God will have it, I used the spell solution he gave me and the next day I received a call from my darling wife Grace last month. she apologized and came back to me. I'm very happy now with my family it worked for me and I believe it will work for you too just give him a try and follow up this is a clear truth from a testifier. Thank you Dr. alusi once again, if you want to reach him via email:(dr.alusistanley@gmail.com)

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  42. Hello everyone out there, help me Thank Dr UGO! My name is MRS LINDA from Netherlands. I am here to give testimony on how I got my ex husband back, my husband left me for no reason 6 Months. He moved in with another woman, I felt like killing myself, my life became very bitter and sorrowful. Then 1 day, a friend of mine told me about a great spell caster that is very good and she said that he told her all about her life history and the problem she is facing, I didn't believe it because I've worked with so many of them and it didn't work. She begged me further so I decided to try this great spell caster called Great Dr UGO. I still didn't believe, but inside me I wanted to give a try and as God will have it, I used the spell solution he gave me and the next day I received a call from my darling husband Romero last month. He apologized and came back to me. I'm very happy now with my family it worked for me and I believe it will work for you too just give him a try and follow up this is a clear truth from a testifier. Thank you Dr UGO once again, if you want to reach him via email:(dr.ugo.temple@gmail.com) 

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  43. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com, call or WhatsApp/viber on this +2348165396275 he can help you out of that you situation.

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  44. Marriage restoration..Stop your marriage from breaking apart today. I lost my husband to another woman 2 weeks ago after 27 years of marriage . We had a lovely marriage but he started a relationship with a co worker who chased after him . He is living away near his work and her and refuses to talk to me or to come home . I am devastated and am finding it hard to cope . I wish I did not love him and that I could move on but I can't . I don't know how to stop feeling like this I wish I didn't as its eating me away and I m starting to feel ill. I have degraded myself begging him to come home all to no avail. I became very worried and needed help. As I was browsing through the internet one day, I came across a website that suggested that Chief Dr Lucky can help solve marital problems, restore broken relationships and so on. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he did a spell for me. two days later, my husband came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my family are living together happily again.. All thanks to Chief Dr Lucky. If you need a spell caster that can cast a spell that truly works, I suggest you contact him. He will not disappoint you. if you have any problem contact him, I give you 100% guarantee that he will help you, This is his details,Email him at: Chiefdrlucky@gmail.com you can also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348132777335 Website : http://chiefdrluckysolutionhome.website2.me/

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  45. Good day everyone my name is Catherine I'm from Los Angeles. I'm here to tell you about how I lost my husband to a fellow woman after 5 years of marriage with 1 child. My husband left me for a reason I do not know, I worried and cried because I love him and I couldn't live without him,losing him troubled my mind so I told my dear friend Julia about my problem and she told of this man who helps people in a similar situation. I contacted with the man,after he did his job,I started to receive calls and texts from my husband telling me to forgive. Now I'm happy and fulfilled living with my husband and my child now got the opportunity to live with her father. So if are in a similar situation or facing marital difficulty, you can contact him via(dr.alusistanley@gmail.com). He will give you his WhatsApp number himself.

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  46. Hola a todos, mi nombre es luciana y estoy aquí para testificar sobre cómo recuperé a mi esposo después de que él nos abandonó a mí y a nuestros hijos durante más de 2 años. Mi esposo nos dejó solos y preocupados y yo estaba triste porque no estaba contento con el hecho de que mis hijos crecerán sin un padre y estaba más preocupada porque no puedo imaginar perder a mi esposo por una compañera. Así que comencé a buscar cualquier forma posible de conseguirlo, pero todo fue en vano, luego decidí hablar con mi amiga Olivia, quien me contó sobre un Dr. alusi y sus maravillosos trabajos y cómo ayudó a las personas en situaciones problemáticas, ella me dio su dirección de contacto y lo probé, así que cuando finalmente respondió mi correo electrónico, él (alusi) me dijo lo que debía hacer y también hizo su parte, después de lo cual me aseguró que mi esposo volvería a mí en menos de 7 días y para terminar todo ahora estoy satisfecho porque mi esposo ha regresado a nosotros y mis hijos tienen la oportunidad de estar con su padre. Entonces, mis compañeras, no sé, todas tenemos un problema u otro y les digo que el Dr. Alusi es capaz de poner fin a esa situación. Entonces, si necesita ayuda, comuníquese con él a través de su dirección de correo electrónico [dr.alusistanley@gmail.com] o +2348146050373.

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  47. Ako si G. Lachica Despi, nakakita ako ng isang post sa kung paano nakuha ng isang ginang ang kanyang lalaki sa pamamagitan ng edisyon ng Doctor. Tinulungan niya siya upang maibalik ang Ex Husband. Inihiwalay ako ng aking asawa 2 taon na ang nakakaraan upang makasama sa ibang lalaki at sinubukan kong iwanan siya ngunit hindi ko magawa, kaya't sinubukan kong gumawa ng maraming bagay upang maibalik siya at tumanggi siyang bumalik sa akin. Bumisita ako sa isang forum sa isang araw para sa mga tip upang maibalik siya at doon ay nakita ko ang isang ginang na nagpapatotoo kung paano tinulungan siya ni Doctor Edion na mapabalik ang kanyang lalaki matapos na siya ay makapos ng isang spell ng ibang babae at si Doctor Edion ang tumulong sa kanya . Bagaman hindi ako naniniwala sa gawaing espiritwal ay nag-atubili akong sumubok sa kanya dahil desperado ako at nakikipag-ugnay ako sa kanya at ipaliwanag ang aking mga problema sa kanya, sa aking pinakapagtataka na si Doctor Edion ay tinulungan ako upang maibalik ang aking babae pagkatapos ng 2 araw at ngayon ang aking relasyon ay perpekto lamang tulad ng ipinangako niya. Ang pagbalik ng iyong dating permanenteng spell ay hindi lamang ibabalik ang isang taong mahal mo ngunit ito ay muling pag-isahin ang iyong mga nagmamahal sa damdamin para maging masaya ka sa taong iyon. Itinuring ako ngayon ng aking babae na parang hari at palaging sinasabi na mahal niya ako sa lahat ng oras. Kung dumadaan ka sa mga paghihirap sa iyong relasyon, makakatulong si Doctor Edion na malutas ang mga problema sa pag-aasawa, ibalik ang nasira na relasyon at maaari rin niyang pagalingin ang mga sakit tulad ng Herpes Virus, Kanser, E.T.C Email sa kanya para sa kagyat na tulong. Email: Ediontempl@gmail.com o WhatsApp / viber +2348165396275

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