TREMENDOUSLY DANGEROUS TIMES: How dangerous are these dangerous times?

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2018

Bruni delivers the mail:
How dangerous are these dangerous times? In this morning's New York Times, Frank Bruni delivers the mail.

We agree with your complaints! In 1999 and 2000, as the New York Times' Bush reporter, Bruni played an obvious role in getting us to this place. He tilted toward fawning coverage of Candidate Bush even as his counterpart, Katharine Seelye, was way over the line in her savaging of Candidate Gore.

Some editor or editors let this absurd imbalance stand. In our view, Bruni stayed within the bonds of reasonable coverage, though only barely. Seelye was a hundred miles over the line, in the opposite direction.

That absurdly unbalanced coverage helped get us where we are. That said, Bruni warns us about our present danger in his current column. His hard-copy headline says this:
The Internet Will Be the Death of Us
In truth, it isn't just the Net. But that isn't a bad place to start.

In many ways, Bruni's column traces familiar steps which many others have traced. That said, last week's horrific behaviors, by one crazed bomber and two crazed gunmen, give his column new life.

He warns about the way the Internet lets disordered people feed and fuel their disorders. It lets disordered people connect with their relatively small but deeply disordered and deeply dangerous tribes.

In this way, Bruni says the Internet has the "power to cast rogue grievances as legitimate obsessions." He says the Internet has the power to "give prejudices the shimmer of ideals."

Through this process, some people who are deeply disordered may end up deciding to act. In this passage, Bruni describes the ways of our own Frankenstein's monster:
BRUNI (10/31/18): Technology has always been a coin with two sides: potential and peril. That’s what Mary Shelley explored in “Frankenstein,” which is celebrating its 200th birthday this year, and it has been the main theme of science fiction ever since.

The internet is the technology paradox writ more monstrous than ever. It’s a nonpareil tool for learning, roving and constructive community-building. But it’s unrivaled, too, in the spread of lies, narrowing of interests and erosion of common cause. It’s a glorious buffet, but it pushes individual users toward only the red meat or just the kale. We’re ridiculously overfed and ruinously undernourished.

It creates terrorists. But well shy of that, it sows enmity by jumbling together information and misinformation to a point where there’s no discerning the real from the Russian.
Later, Bruni quotes a statement by Apple's Tim Cook—a statement Cook made before last week's disasters. How has the Internet's downside worked? Coining a useful term, Cook lamented the abuse of "user trust:"

"Rogue actors and even governments have taken advantage of user trust to deepen divisions, incite violence and even undermine our shared sense of what is true and what is false.” So said Apple's Cook.

"User trust" is widely abused within our modern discourse. That said, this process was underway long before the Internet. Other technologies, and other processes, have long been involved.

The Internet is only one of the three newer "technologies" which have helped divide us into tribes, including small tribes of the highly disordered. As this process has unfolded, we have increasingly lost "our shared sense of what is true and what is false.”

Often, of course, our past "shared sense of what is true" may have involved substantial distortions. This process continues today as mainstream news orgs seem to pick and choose what we're told about major policy areas, in the process Chomsky describes as "manufactured consent."

Still and all, the current sifting of information involves a level of craziness which is probably new to the system. But this doesn't occur on the Net alone. The process also occurs through two relatively modern technologies—talk radio and "cable news."

Gruesome abuse of "user trust" predated the rise of the Internet. Consider the role of "user abuse" in the medium of talk radio.

We're so old that, through happenstance, we were listening to Rush Limbaugh on the day, in March 1994, when he helped invent the crackpot belief that Hillary Clinton played a role in the death of Vince Foster.

We were driving to Huntington, West Virginia; we had the radio going. Between Baltimore and Huntington back in those days, nothing but Rush was on.

Rush's behavior was heinous that day; "user trust" was badly abused. In the aftermath of his gruesome behavior, the public trust was further abused as the big mainstream press organs cleared their throats and looked away as Rush, and his swarm of imitators, pushed such ugly, ludicrous claims all around.

By the summer of 1999, an overt hustler named Gennifer Flowers had become an active proponent of tall tales concerning the many murders of Bill and Hillary Clinton. She had already scored at least $500,000 through her grossly implausible claim that she'd enjoyed a torrid, 12-year love affair with the man she called "my Bill."

Now, Flowers was selling the Clintons' many murders on a monetized website. But so what? By now, the boys and girls within Bruni's guild were actively engaged in a war against Bill Clinton, who had received ten acts of oral sex without asking their permission.

As their war dragged on, they reinvented Flowers as a proven truth-teller. And uh-oh! As this foolishness unfolded, the boys and girl of Bruni's guild were transferring their enmity from Bill Clinton to his chosen successor, Candidate Gore.

Flowers was paraded around on "cable news" and treated as a major truth-teller. User trust was badly abused as mainstream pundits gamboled, dissembled, cavorted and played in this ridiculous manner.

These ugly, deeply stupid behaviors led to the razor-thin election of George W. Bush in November 2000. Many children died in Iraq after the plain-spoken Texan started his ill-conceived war there. But so what? When Gore had delivered a major speech warning against a war in Iraq, media stars like Frank Rich told us we should ignore him.

User abuse was running wild as screwballs like Rich played this game.

These ugly, deeply stupid behaviors gave us President Bush and his war in Iraq. And good God! In October 2016, as the Trump-Clinton race neared its end, the New York Times sold us Gennifer Flowers again, in this 2800-word front-page news report which may have elected Candidate Trump all by its pitiful self.

Bruni's fawning coverage of Candidate Bush was one part of this history. (On the Bush campaign plane, his official nickname was "Pancho.")

Today, Bruni correctly describes the way disordered people can be led to violence through Internet user abuse. That said, please understand this:

In 2016, the New York Times helped send a disordered man to the White House. Today, that man is the leading source of crazy claims on the modern Net.

It's true that "user abuse" is found all over the Net. It's also true that, sacred Aristotle notwithstanding, we "rational animals" are highly susceptible to such forms of abuse.

"The American people are pretty sharp?" On balance, this has never been true to any impressive extent.

A faithful servant would endlessly warn us about our tendency to get conned by the public figures we unwisely trust. (Gullibility of this type isn't a moral flaw.) Instead, the pundit corps kept flattering us, even as they were abusing our trust. Recitation of that pleasing claim—We the people are pretty sharp!—has been a longstanding form of mainstream "user abuse."

As he closes his column today, Bruni describes the depth of the problem among disordered Internet users. In this passage, he refers to a recent New York Times news report:
BRUNI: That same Times article noted that a search for the word “Jews” on the photo-sharing site Instagram on Monday led to 11,696 posts with the hashtag “#jewsdid911,” insanely blaming them for the attacks that brought down the World Trade Center, along with similarly grotesque images and videos that demonized Jews. Anti-Semitism may be ancient, but this delivery system for it is entirely modern.

And utterly terrifying. I don’t know exactly how we square free speech and free expression—which are paramount—with a better policing of the internet, but I’m certain that we need to approach that challenge with more urgency than we have mustered so far. Democracy is at stake. So are lives.
Our democracy is at stake, Bruni says. So are human lives.

These claims are certainly true. But the same situation obtained when Limbaugh and Jerry Falwell were permitted to go their merry way pimping the Clintons' many murders; when the deeply non-credible Flowers was turned into a mainstream hero by the likes of Frank Rich and Chris Matthews; when Bruni played the soft-on-Bush role in the New York Times' war against Candidate Gore; and when the Times vouched for Flowers again, four weeks before the fateful election which sent Trump to the White House.

Warning! Our lizards don't want us to know this. And our lizards are running the world.

Democracy is at stake today. Are we sharp enough to keep it? Bruni uses the word "insane" to describe the beliefs which are getting pimped on the modern Internet. But mental health is =n obvious question in the case of the person who squeezed past Candidate Hillary Clinton, and the Times editorial board told us, early this year, that we shouldn't discuss that.

"User abuse" was Limbaugh's tool long before the Net took shape. It has also been a favorite food of the mainstream guild within which Bruni works.

We liberals have been abused by that guild for many years, including by the "liberal pundits" who played along with the endless gong shows involving Gore and Hillary Clinton. That includes Lawrence and Brian and Chris, each of whom is now sold to us on corporate cable each night.

The Times kept vouching for Gennifer Flowers, right through October 2016. As they did, they trashed Hillary Clinton. Conduct like that sent Candidate Trump to the White House.

Today, Bruni complains about user abuse! Everything he says is true. But how much his column leaves out!

Tomorrow: User trust and that fourth accuser

37 comments:

  1. "The Internet Will Be the Death of Us"

    Why, I most certainly do hope it'll be the end of you - goebbelsian establishment media, "the newspaper of record".

    And the sooner the better.

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    1. People are dead all over the world because of Mao trolls.

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    2. People are also dead all over the world because time marches on. The Iraq war was in 2003, 15 years ago. By now, natural causes will have killed more people than died in the war, especially if you count only American casualties.

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    3. MY NAME IS VICKY AND I AM FROM SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA,I WANT TO SHARE A
      TESTIMONY OF A SPELL CASTER WHO REUNITE MY MARRIAGE WENT HIS POWERFUL SPELL
      CASTER.AND I ALSO WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITIES TO WARN THOSE OUT THERE
      READING FAKE TESTIMONY ON SOCIAL NETWORK.BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY SO
      MANY FAKE SPELL CASTER. BE CAREFUL HERE BECAUSE NOBODY CAN HELP YOU HERE OR
      EVEN SUGGEST HOW YOU CAN GET YOUR EX OR LOVER BACK, TESTIMONIES OF MOST
      SPELL CASTER HERE MUST BE IGNORE.BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE SCAM I MEAN REAL
      SCAM WHICH I WAS A VICTIM OF BEFORE, I GOT RIPPED OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
      BECAUSE I WAS SO ANXIOUS TO GET MY HUSBAND BACK AFTER HE LEFT ME FOR OVER 2
      YEARS WITH MY 7 YEARS OLD SON HARRY,I HAVE APPLIED TO 5 DIFFERENT SPELL
      CASTER HERE AND ALL TO NO AVAIL THEY ALL ASK FOR SAME THING SEND YOUR NAME
      YOUR EX NAME ADDRESS AND PICTURE PHONE NUMBER ETC WHICH I DID OVER AND OVER
      AGAIN AND MOST OF THEM WERE FROM WEST AFRICA UNTIL I SAW A POST ABOUT DR
      ALEXZANDER SPELL AND I DECIDED TO GAVE HIM MY LAST TRAIL.HE ASK ME FOUR
      THINGS MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY EX MOTHER NAME AND SAID MY EX WILL COME
      BACK IN 48HOURS, I HAVE SPEND ON SPELL CASTING AND NOTHING HAVE WORK FOR ME
      AFTER 2 DAYS I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH I HAVE LOST SO FAR SO I SAID LET
      ME GIVE HIM A TRY SO I CALLED HIM AGAIN AND SEND MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY
      EX MOTHER NAME. BECAUSE I SWEAR IT WAS MY LAST TRY SO I WAS WAITING AS HE
      TOLD ME TO WAIT TILL NEXT DAY AND I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT BECAUSE I
      REALLY LOVE MY HUSBAND AND WANT HIM BACK SO MUCH, THAT DAY I SAW MY HUSBAND
      WAS ONLINE ON FACEBOOK AND HE SAID HI AT FIRST I WAS SHOCK BECAUSE HE
      NEVER TALK WITH ME FOR THE PAST A YEAR AND 11 MONTH NOW I DID NOT REPLY
      AGAIN HE SAID ARE YOU THERE? I QUICKLY REPLY YES AND HE SAID CAN WE SEE
      TOMORROW I SAID YES AND HE WENT OFF-LINE I WAS CONFUSED I TRY TO CHAT WITH
      HIM AGAIN BUT HE WAS NO MORE ON LINE I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT AS I WAS
      WONDERING WHAT HE IS GOING TO SAY, BY 9.AM THE NEXT MORNING HE GAVE ME A
      MISS CALL I DECIDED NOT TO CALL BACK AS I WAS STILL ON SHOCK AGAIN HE
      CALLED AND I PICK HE SAID CAN WE SEE AFTER WORK TODAY I SAID YES SO HE END
      THE CALL. IMMEDIATELY I GOT OFF WORK HE CALL ME AND WE MEET AND NOW WE ARE
      BACK AGAIN I CALL DR ALEXZANDER THE NEXT DAY THANKING HIM FOR WHAT HE HAS
      DONE IN FACT I STILL CALL HIM AND THANK HIM AS MY LIFE WAS NOT COMPLETE
      WITHOUT MY HUSBAND PLEASE BE CAREFUL HERE I HAVE BEEN SCAM THOUSANDS OF
      DOLLARS IF YOU WANT A TRUE LOVE SPELL THEN CONTACT..alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com.

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  2. Mao must be one of those Republican Welfare Queens.He must not work for a living. He can't wait everyday to be one of the first posters at this site. Of course, he has nothing intelligent to say, just more right wing gibberish.

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  3. Alan, trolling is Mao's work. Uncle Vova pays him to do it.

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  4. I disagree with Somerby about several points. First, I believe we find ourselves in these times because of a Republican party that adopted win-at-any-cost principles back in the 1990s (with Newt Gingrich) which led to enforced party discipline. Second, I believe that the knowledge among Republicans that shifting demographics were turning them into a permanent minority party made them desperate for new ways to win, to stay viable as a political party (without changing their ideology). Third, the ability of corporations to influence elections by funding campaigns is a relatively new phenomenon. It means appeals to low information voters via mass media can swing elections through fear mongering and bigotry. Fourth, Somerby and others seem to be ignoring entirely the traitorous collusion of Republicans (not solely Trump) with Russia. We have never previously permitted foreign countries to interfere in our elections, but win-at-any-cost combined with fear of losing power have motivated that collusion, as we will all hear when the Mueller report is released (but is already obvious from evidence available to the public at this time).

    None of this involves a steady slide into bad reporting that is Somerby's main focus. Worrying about who folks like Bruni previously supported and who did or didn't malign Gore is a major distraction from the actual forces that gave us Trump.

    Trump is a figure head, chosen by behind-the-scenes power brokers who decided to take things into their own hands to prevent any more Democratic presidents (and to keep the dreaded Hillary out of office, since she was "hip to their tricks"). Trump is plainly not smart enough to be the mastermind of his own election. Nor is he really benefiting from it, since he and his family may wind up in jail. But all of those changes in regulations, those corrupt regulators, those ultra-conservative judges will remain after he is gone. And none of that has anything to do with whether the internet lets crazies find their soulmates.

    Somerby is fiddling while Rome burns. Truth isn't at stake today. Our planet's future as a hospitable place for humans is at stake. I've never heard Somerby say a word about global warming. There would be some irony if our corporate overlords realized their error and turned their collusion toward saving their future markets, but I'm not optimistic about that. Meanwhile, I have no interest in hearing again about press perfidy of past decades. Somerby is helping no one with this tired old repetition, which has nothing to do with the internet or Trump-inspired shootings or anything else relevant to current problems. We need to recognize that he is distracting us from real issues and thereby serves those who wish liberals no good, and perhaps he is supporting forces of actual evil.

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  5. “Limbaugh and Jerry Falwell were permitted to go their merry way”

    Permitted??? Who was going to stop them? The right wing media outlets that paid Limbaugh millions? Those same outlets that provided a platform for Falwell and the pimping of that videotape? Their words reached a wide and willing audience which was typified by that drive Somerby took to WV. The citizens in those hinterlands did not listen to Chris Matthews or read Frank Bruni. By 1999, it was all right wing talk all the time there.

    To reverse the question: who was supposed to stop Limbaugh? Or Falwell? We supposedly have a free press. The first amendment says nothing about having a non-partisan press. They peddled their wares without going through the mainstream media, Limbaugh through his own media outlet, and Falwell through his religious school and organization. Falwell and others like Pat Robertson were viewed (and still are in the case of Robertson) on cable by scores of people, and they always combined religion with politics, both of a right wing bent. Can they be stopped? Should they be? The msm has little power to sway the adherents of these right wing figures. And the deliberate “discrediting” of the mainstream media was undertaken years earlier by the Republican Party, regardless of the merits or demerits of that media, thus laying the groundwork for the tribalization of their voters.

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  6. This moaning about the internet doesn’t help us deal with it. It’s not going away. This impotent complaining is useless. Saying “it’s the death of us” is a giving up of the ghost. What is to be done? Censorship? Any actual suggestions? Because we have to find ways of adjusting, unless we are content to die while grumbling like a disgruntled cynic.

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    1. A start would be to place the same limits on hate speech as exist in other media. That isn't considered censorship in those venues. Another would be to limit political advertising by foreign agents and to delete accounts that are not real people. Meanwhile, users are placing sane limits on themselves and their children as consumers, as they do with any media.

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    2. Leftists go straight for censorship. Every damned time. Leftism is about controlling what you say and think. They will tolerate the First Amendment just as long as they must in order to lower the boom.

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    3. I'll bet you're the guy who shouts fire at the movies, just to preserve free speech.

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    4. I would ban any lib-zombie propaganda. Enough hate-mongering.

      Anyone who talks liberal PC newspeak for more than 5 seconds - grab 'em and send 'em off to a reeducation camp. With flogging. Plenty of flogging.

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    5. "Anyone who talks liberal PC newspeak for more than 5 seconds - grab 'em and send 'em off to a reeducation camp. With flogging. Plenty of flogging."

      Anti-abortion or anti-homosexual because of your religion?
      Who gives a fuck? God is a figment of dim-witted imaginations, and your superstitions have no place in the body politic. Now come up with a real reason, or go away.

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    6. Tsk. You're getting flogged today, dear, I'm afraid. It's for your own good.

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    7. "I'm afraid."

      I know. It's why you embrace the bigotry.

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  7. Somerby said this yesterday:
    “Tomorrow: The tale of the fourth accuser”

    Now he says: “Tomorrow: User trust and that fourth accuser”

    He keeps pimping this “fourth accuser”, starting back on October 19, but tomorrow has yet to come.

    Apparently, Somerby will use this mythical fourth accuser to tell us that liberals believe stupid insane claims, just like the dummies who believe the caravan is bringing smallpox and leprosy. Mark my words. He will attempt to set up some sort of equivalency here.

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    1. Will Somerby tell us about the attempt of certain Trump supporters to pay women to accuse Mueller of sex crimes? They told the press instead.

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  8. The comments being made about the internet today were made about TV in the past, and before that, they were made about popular magazines. They've been made about comic books and Mad Magazine.

    When a young person goes off to college and comes home to visit, they generally encounter conflict with parents and left-behind high school friends, over newly discovered facts and truth that clashes with the folk wisdom of their family and local community. Parents lament that their kids have been corrupted, while the college children learn to keep their mouths shut and recognize that their parents are not as smart or wise as once thought. The more education someone gets, the more they realize they cannot go home again. (Perhaps this is less of a phenomenon if the parents are also college educated or have advanced degrees, but it is common with blue-collar families who send their kids to college as the first generation to attend high education.)

    Just as there are enclaves of crazy on the internet, there are enclaves of wisdom and truth, and there is the great unwashed middle. The internet mirrors society. But society is not unregulated when it comes to spewing violence and filth. The internet needs to catch up, and it will. But any kid going off to college (or the army, or the wider city for a job) can find white nationalists and bigots if they look, can find all manner of craziness because it is all out there. Scientology and evangelist religion (Jews for Jesus) are waiting for unsuspecting kids on campuses. They similar recruit on the internet. There is nothing new about any of this.

    I have my own memories of hearing parents refer to anchors (Somerby's gatekeepers) as "those commies" as they gave their nightly news reports. And this was way before Limbaugh. We had Father Coughlin and any number of radio demagogues back during the depression and the 40s and 50s. Maybe Somerby doesn't know that because his own family was Boston liberal and sheltered him from such things. Mine wasn't. I had to find the liberals and join them. I guess I was lucky to find them instead of white nationalists or black Muslims or some other fringe group. But like finds like. Bruni and others can say whatever they want, but it only finds a fertile ground in some minds.

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  9. How about a string quartet by Antonín Dvořák? Here's his number 12 in F major, performed by the Cleveland Quartet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxtAHpYIXdU

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    1. No thank you. I have my own soundtrack to my own fucking life. I don't need your noise playing in my head.

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  10. "That includes Lawrence and Brian and Chris, each of whom is now sold to us on corporate cable each night."

    I don't watch Fox news and I similarly don't watch hosts whose views I find repugnant on other channels. The solution to the problem of these guys on MSNBC is to not watch them. I don't consider them liberal and I wouldn't watch them solely because they are liberal any more than I consider Somerby liberal and read him because he is conveying liberal Truth for the day. He isn't and neither are they. So what's the beef?

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  11. It's so sad that Robert Mueller apparently raped a woman 08/02/2010 in NYC.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk. Sad, so sad, dear Bob. Who can you trust these days?

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    1. If this was true, Republicans would have put Mueller on the Supreme Court by now.

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    2. Yeah, start squirming, dembot. It's gonna be fun-fun-fun.

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    3. Mao, "more mind-numbing drivel making any serious discussion impossible" coming from you. Oh dear!

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  12. Bruni's just lamenting the end of Total Propaganda. Let's have Edward Bernays explain:

    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes are formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world. Sometimes the effect on the public is created by a professional propagandist, sometimes by an amateur deputed for the job. The important thing is, that it is universal and continuous, and in its sum total is regimenting the public mind every bit as much as an army regiments the bodies of its soldiers."

    "The systematic study of mass psychology revealed to students the potentialities of invisible government of society by manipulation of the motives which actuate man in the group. So the question naturally arose: if we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will, without their knowing it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits. No serious sociologist believes any longer that the voice of the people expresses any divine or especially wise and lofty idea. The voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion. Whether in the problem of getting elected to office or in the problem of interpreting and popularizing new issues, or in the problem of making the day to day administration of public affairs a vital part of the community life, the use of propaganda carefully adjusted to the mentality of the masses is an essential adjunct of political life."

    Democracy was always a sham because, as Bernays explains, "the voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion." In our case, jews. So yes, democracy is at stake, and yes, that's a good thing. And yes, jews did 9/11.

    A storm's coming, and censorship won't stop it.

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    1. Wall Street did 9/11.
      And 9/2008 for that matter.

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    2. Anon 2:01, democracy certainly has flaws. Do you have a better alternative?

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    3. You make a little sense until you get to the part about Jews. A lot of non-Jews know how and have the motive to manipulate, so why Jews? Then what happens if there is manipulation at cross purposes? The contrast provokes free thought.

      The leap to Jews reminds me of the underpants gnomes. I'll bet you have a chain of reasoning that makes Hillary Jewish.

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  13. Where's David?
    Is he still in shock after finding out that, as a Jew, his support of the White Supremacist party isn't going to save him?

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  14. Technology is creating deeper divisions. At the same time, it has caused people to recognize media organizations are not to be trusted regardless of how old and established they are. That development is extremely important and Trump deserves some credit for noting it regularly.

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    1. And who is to be trusted?

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    2. Trump just whines whenever someone in the media criticizes him. No credit for that.

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  15. MY NAME IS VICKY AND I AM FROM SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA,I WANT TO SHARE A
    TESTIMONY OF A SPELL CASTER WHO REUNITE MY MARRIAGE WENT HIS POWERFUL SPELL
    CASTER.AND I ALSO WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITIES TO WARN THOSE OUT THERE
    READING FAKE TESTIMONY ON SOCIAL NETWORK.BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY SO
    MANY FAKE SPELL CASTER. BE CAREFUL HERE BECAUSE NOBODY CAN HELP YOU HERE OR
    EVEN SUGGEST HOW YOU CAN GET YOUR EX OR LOVER BACK, TESTIMONIES OF MOST
    SPELL CASTER HERE MUST BE IGNORE.BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE SCAM I MEAN REAL
    SCAM WHICH I WAS A VICTIM OF BEFORE, I GOT RIPPED OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
    BECAUSE I WAS SO ANXIOUS TO GET MY HUSBAND BACK AFTER HE LEFT ME FOR OVER 2
    YEARS WITH MY 7 YEARS OLD SON HARRY,I HAVE APPLIED TO 5 DIFFERENT SPELL
    CASTER HERE AND ALL TO NO AVAIL THEY ALL ASK FOR SAME THING SEND YOUR NAME
    YOUR EX NAME ADDRESS AND PICTURE PHONE NUMBER ETC WHICH I DID OVER AND OVER
    AGAIN AND MOST OF THEM WERE FROM WEST AFRICA UNTIL I SAW A POST ABOUT DR
    ALEXZANDER SPELL AND I DECIDED TO GAVE HIM MY LAST TRAIL.HE ASK ME FOUR
    THINGS MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY EX MOTHER NAME AND SAID MY EX WILL COME
    BACK IN 48HOURS, I HAVE SPEND ON SPELL CASTING AND NOTHING HAVE WORK FOR ME
    AFTER 2 DAYS I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH I HAVE LOST SO FAR SO I SAID LET
    ME GIVE HIM A TRY SO I CALLED HIM AGAIN AND SEND MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY
    EX MOTHER NAME. BECAUSE I SWEAR IT WAS MY LAST TRY SO I WAS WAITING AS HE
    TOLD ME TO WAIT TILL NEXT DAY AND I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT BECAUSE I
    REALLY LOVE MY HUSBAND AND WANT HIM BACK SO MUCH, THAT DAY I SAW MY HUSBAND
    WAS ONLINE ON FACEBOOK AND HE SAID HI AT FIRST I WAS SHOCK BECAUSE HE
    NEVER TALK WITH ME FOR THE PAST A YEAR AND 11 MONTH NOW I DID NOT REPLY
    AGAIN HE SAID ARE YOU THERE? I QUICKLY REPLY YES AND HE SAID CAN WE SEE
    TOMORROW I SAID YES AND HE WENT OFF-LINE I WAS CONFUSED I TRY TO CHAT WITH
    HIM AGAIN BUT HE WAS NO MORE ON LINE I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT AS I WAS
    WONDERING WHAT HE IS GOING TO SAY, BY 9.AM THE NEXT MORNING HE GAVE ME A
    MISS CALL I DECIDED NOT TO CALL BACK AS I WAS STILL ON SHOCK AGAIN HE
    CALLED AND I PICK HE SAID CAN WE SEE AFTER WORK TODAY I SAID YES SO HE END
    THE CALL. IMMEDIATELY I GOT OFF WORK HE CALL ME AND WE MEET AND NOW WE ARE
    BACK AGAIN I CALL DR ALEXZANDER THE NEXT DAY THANKING HIM FOR WHAT HE HAS
    DONE IN FACT I STILL CALL HIM AND THANK HIM AS MY LIFE WAS NOT COMPLETE
    WITHOUT MY HUSBAND PLEASE BE CAREFUL HERE I HAVE BEEN SCAM THOUSANDS OF
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