What viewers were told on the Maddow Show!


Attention, liberal shoppers! Attention, liberal shoppers! 

This holiday season, we're being offered a lot of tribal Storyline about the Kenosha shootings and about the Rittenhouse trial.

We're being offered a lot of hooey—a lot of facts which are misleading, a lot of claims which aren't in evidence, a lot of statements which are false. Also, and possibly most important:

A lot of accurate information is being disappeared.

This is being done so we liberals can enjoy our holiday season. We didn't get to lock the teenager up for the rest of his life, but we want to believe we were right!

For today, here's the product we were sold on last Friday's Maddow Show. Warning! What follows comes from the parents of Anthony Huber, one of the people who were killed on that unfortunate night. 

Understandably, their statement is full of tendentious claims. Rachel simply read it straight, exactly as you see it below.

Final warning! Many of the statements seen below are very much subject to challenge. As is routinely the case, Our Own Corporate Media Star agreed not to notice or say so.

Warning! Standard Script ahead, followed by highly tendentious claims:

MADDOW (11/19/21): We'll be going live to Kenosha, Wisconsin in just a few minutes as that city continues to absorb the Rittenhouse trial verdict and now the knock-on effect of Republicans and far right groups, including white supremacist groups, Nazis, militia groups, holding up Kyle Rittenhouse as not just a person who was acquitted of murdering two people and shooting a third, they've made him a hero on the right for admittedly killing those people and getting away with it, which raises questions about the safety of public protest in the future.

One response that I think is really very much worth hearing today in its entirety is from the family of one of the people who Kyle Rittenhouse killed. The parents of Anthony Huber put out a statement today in response to the verdict. They said, quote:

"We are heartbroken and angry that Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted in his criminal trial for the murder of our son Anthony Huber. There was no justice today for Anthony, or for Mr. Rittenhouse’s other victims, Joseph Rosenbaum and Gaige Grosskreutz.

"We did not attend the trial because we could not bear to sit in a courtroom and repeatedly watch videos of our son's murder, and because we have been subjected to many hurtful and nasty comments in the past year. But we watched the trial closely, hoping it would bring us closure.

"That did not happen. Today's verdict means there is no accountability for the person who murdered our son. It sends the unacceptable message that armed civilians can show up in any town, incite violence, and then use the danger they have created to justify shooting people in the street. We hope that decent people will join us in forcefully rejecting that message and demanding more of our laws, our officials, and our justice system.

Make no mistake: our fight to hold those responsible for Anthony's death accountable continues in full force. Neither Mr. Rittenhouse nor the Kenosha police, who authorized his bloody rampage, will escape justice. Anthony will have his day in court.

"No reasonable person viewing all of the evidence could conclude that Mr. Rittenhouse acted in self-defense. In response to racist and violent calls to action from militia members, Mr. Rittenhouse travelled to Kenosha illegally armed with an assault rifle. He menaced fellow citizens in the street. Though he was in open violation of a curfew order, Kenosha police encouraged him to act violently. Kenosha police told militia members that they would push peaceful protestors toward the militia so that the militia could "deal with them." Soon after, Mr. Rittenhouse killed Joseph Rosenbaum. The police did nothing. 

"Concerned citizens, confronted with a person shooting indiscriminately on the street, stepped in to stop the violence. Anthony was shot in the chest trying to disarm Mr. Rittenhouse and stop his shooting spree. Still, the police did nothing. Mr. Rittenhouse continued to shoot, maiming Gaige Grosskreutz. The police let Mr. Rittenhouse leave the scene freely. Mr. Rittenhouse came to Kenosha armed to kill. Kenosha police encouraged him to act violently, and our son is dead as a result.

"We are so proud of Anthony, and we love him so much. He is a hero who sacrificed his own life to protect other innocent civilians. We ask that you remember Anthony and keep him in your prayers."

MADDOW: Again, that statement tonight from the parents of Anthony Huber, one of the two men who were shot and killed by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha last year.

Mr. Rittenhouse was acquitted on all charges today. We're going to have more, live from Kenosha, coming up in a few minutes.

Was that statement by Huber's parents "really very much worth hearing today in its entirety?"

Possibly! That said, it's full of highly tendentious claims—tendentious claims which may not be accurate.  It continues to say that Rittenhouse "murdered" Huber, even though a jury has ruled otherwise.  Once again, we call your attention to this unfortunate statement:

"No reasonable person viewing all of the evidence could conclude that Mr. Rittenhouse acted in self-defense."

In fact, twelve different persons, on that jury, all did reach that conclusion. By tradition, journalists extend more courtesy to jurors than Maddow did Friday night. 

It may be understandable that Huber's parents feel the way they do. But Maddow made no attempt to question, fact-check or clarify any of their statements or claims. Beyond that, she offered no other account of what happened in Kenosha last summer, and no other account of the trial.

It's may be understandable that Huber's parents feel the way they do. But Maddow was willing to read their remarkably tendentious statement while offering no other account of the basic facts of the case.

NBC has promised the public that Maddow will soon be leaving the air. In the interest of the liberal world, that can't happen soon enough. In the meantime, we offer you this:

If you've been an MSNBC shopper, you've been sold a lot of guff about the shootings in Kenosha and about the Rittenhouse trial. 

Most strikingly, a lot of basic information has been thoroughly disappeared. As we enter the holiday season, we plan to be gifting you with that info. Only you, and you alone, will be able to decide what to do with this gift.

What happened in Kenosha and in the trial? Maddow wasn't willing to tell you! So it goes as our pitiful tribe, and our failing nation, continue to slide toward the sea.


  1. Enough with Maddow, dear Bob, please.

    If her lips are moving, she's spewing lies and hatred. We get it, we do. Tell us something we don't know.

    1. All Right-wingers care about is bigotry.

      Oops. You already knew that.

    2. Yes, we did. Thank you for your confession, dear dembot. Keep 'em coming.

    3. "Tell us something we don't know."

      "Brave first responders" is 100% bullshit.
      Cops are cowards who fire on unarmed people, often in the back, because they "fear for their lives" anytime someone doesn't knuckle under to their harassment.

      The more you know.

    4. Did you hear this from Rachel, dear dembot? Good to know. Anything else?

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    1. If there is a choice between Maddow and Somerby, I choose Maddow every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

  3. "Was that statement by Huber's parents "really very much worth hearing today in its entirety?"

    Somerby in his crassness seems to be suggesting that the family statement be truncated. Why? Because it doesn't contain the facts Somerby thinks we need to hear? Or does it bother him to hear the naked grief of the murdered man's family like this?

    I am still waiting for Somerby to tell us the magic facts that he pretends will turn things around and make Rittenhouse's actions less guilty. I haven't heard a single thing that would make me disagree with the Huber family's summation: ""No reasonable person viewing all of the evidence could conclude that Mr. Rittenhouse acted in self-defense."

    Somerby is truly scum to have written today's "essay".

    1. Maddow should have asked Mr. Huber if he was surprised to have learned that his son is black.

    2. I suppose you think that remark is funny?

  4. Those of us who have been closely following the trial do not consider ourselves "shoppers." The use of that metaphor trivializes the importance of the trial beyond the boundaries of decency. The deaths of these men bothers those of us who are actual liberals. We care about the violence exhibited by this teenager who was allowed to kill by ineffective gun laws. These sorts of tragedies need to be prevented, not encouraged, as this verdict encourages more such violence. This has nothing to do with any kind of shopping and Somerby has no sense of propriety, no empathy, no kindness when he uses such language.

    Out of respect for the families of these slain men, Somerby should take both this trial and their deaths seriously, not pretend this is consumer activity, or that any of us are enjoying or getting off on what happened. Grief is the only appropriate response when a confused and misled teen engages in an act that only a sociopath would enjoy.

    Somerby is a truly awful person. Like Trump, his pathology is on display here. Like Trump, he seems incapable of seeing himself through others' eyes and unaware of his own deficiencies. He has nothing to say to anyone here on this topic. He would do better to leave it be and move on to ragging on Godel and calling Einstein a faker.

  5. "tendentious"

    definition: "expressing or intending to promote a particular cause or point of view, especially a controversial one."

    Somerby thinks it is controversial that these grieving parents think their son shouldn't have been killed.

    Does that mean that he thinks the alt-right has the right to go around killing anyone they please, while calling it self-defense? There should be no controversy over whether these victims shouldn't have been killed. No decent person would excuse their deaths. The question is Rittenhouse's degree of responsibility for what happened.

    I believe the responsibility is his because he worked so hard to take that gun to that riot. But beyond that, his father and mother bear some responsibility. The NRA and the gun industry bear responsibility too. The cops clearly let his happen by failing to apprehend Rittenhouse after he killed the first man. More diligent gun owners should have stopped Rittenhouse before he could point and shoot his weapon at anyone. There was clearly a failure of parenting that Rittenhouse had been a high school dropout for three years with no constructive activities to help him toward an adult life (no, he didn't have his GED and wasn't attending nursing school and he wasn't an EMT or trained medic). He fell into the clutches of the Proud Boys and alt-right because he lacked alternatives for how an adult man behaves. His sister is responsible for driving him to the scene of a riot and his so-called friends are responsible for giving him an AR-15 when it was illegal for him to own one. Those "friends" who let him shoot someone while supposedly guarding a car lot are partially responsible too. After the fact, all of the Republicans who have been excusing his actions and supporting his "heroism" have done him no favors and they will no doubt drop him when he becomes politically inconvenient to make a fuss over. And that is cruel when it happens to a 17 year old, who may believe the things they are saying to him and about him.

    All those who share responsibility for Rittenhouse's crimes are no doubt relieved and believe they are now off the hook. That's because their own consciences are so warped they don't understand that the jury verdict will not get them into heaven. They are morally and ethically still on the hook for their commissions, omissions and failures.

    Somerby is an asshole. Rittenhouse was an asshole with a gun. Look what happens when guns and assholes join forces!

  6. Better put, Maddow would have said “no reasonable could conclude this was a simple or typical case of self defense.” Bob seems to respect the job Sean does, less so Tucker, but no reasonable person could conclude you could watch a given hour of Fox without witnessing much deeper transgressions than this example. But Bob only cares about “we liberals.”

  7. The people who murdered Emmett Till were also found not guilty, just like Rittenhouse. How dare Emmett Till's mom have an open casket funeral. We can play this game all day, there are so many cases.

    Somerby wants you to think that it is out of whack to criticize the outcome of Ritttenhouse's trial, but as he tries to manufacture ignorance what is out of whack is Somerby's moral compass.

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