MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2025
Or so PBS said: "This is a delicious evening, when the whole body is one sense, and imbibes delight through every pore."
It's our favorite line from Walden. Watching the largely broken American discourse in the wake of the murder of Charlie Kirk hasn't been like that at all.
Yesterday, we had the good sense to exit into an earlier era when the 1994 American Experience program, FDR, was shown on a local PBS station. For that program's official site, click here.
Good lord! In 1920, at age 38, FDR was the Democratic Party nominee for vice president. After the ticket's resounding defeat, he seemed to be next in line for the Democratic presidential nod.
One year later, at age 39, the polio came. It left him paralyzed from the waist down.
According to the PBS program, his mother wanted him to come home to Hyde Park and spend the rest of his life working on his stamps. At a time when no one could dream of being elected to office from a wheelchair, he undertook a long and arduous physical campaign designed to let him appear healthy enough, in the eyes of the world, to pursue political office.
The result:
In 1928, he was elected governor of New York. In 1932, he was elected president. Along the way, the program related, he created the Warm Springs Foundation in rural Georgia, where he experienced this:
Janice Howe Raper, Physical Therapist: After everybody had treatment, they would all go out into what was called the "play pool," and they would play vigorous games of ball. He played with them and he was just as tough as any of the children. They loved him.
Geoffrey Ward, Biographer: Whether or not people got better at Warm Springs, they felt that they were better and they felt that with him present, anything was possible.
David McCullough [voice-over]: Warm Springs was Franklin's creation. For the rest of his life, in times of stress he would retreat to the piney woods and the warm waters. It became his second home.
Franklin loved to drive and he drove fast. He designed his car himself, with ingenious levers and pulleys so he could drive without his legs. For the first time since he was paralyzed, he felt free. Over the years, his drives through the Georgia countryside would provide him with a valuable political education.
Ben C. Fowler, Warm Springs Resident: He was interested in the people. He got out and visited with them. Even after he was president, he would slip away from his bodyguards and get out and ride the back ways and back roads and meet people, stop and talk with them. But he'd never met people like that before.
David McCullough [voice-over]: Everywhere he went he heard stories about the lack of electricity in the countryside and the exorbitant rates paid for it in town, about bad schools and low farm prices—stories that left their mark on him.
Robert Fulton Copeland, Warm Springs Resident: ...We would walk to Warm Springs just to see him just board the train. He'd come on down the—"Hello, Warm Springs. Hello, Warm Springs." That's the way—we wanted to see him greet the little town, and we walked four miles to see that...
Janice Howe Raper, Physical Therapist: After he became president, they were very, you know, polite. But they used to call him, in the early days, "Rosie," which I think was a wonderful name.
Robert Fulton Copeland, Warm Springs Resident: Everybody loved him. Go beyond like—they loved him.
Eleanor Roosevelt: I don't think he changed completely. There were certain things that were always there, but he certainly learned to understand what suffering meant in a way that he'd never known before, because he could understand how people could suffer in ways that he had not experienced. And I think that grew out of his polio experience.
As with legendary stories of the Buddha, so too here. His polio forced him beyond the cloistered life into which he'd been born. Because of "his polio experience," he learned to understand the ways people suffer in a way he'd never experienced before.
Inevitably, we thought of Emanuel Leplin, father to one of our best friends back in high school. Like Roosevelt, he contracted polio as an adult, at age 37. As a result, he had to leave the San Francisco Symphony, where he'd been a violist. But with the help of an aide he continued to paint, directing the aide how to mix his paints, then holding the brush in his teeth.
Our friend constructed an homage to his astonishing father here. For Mr. Leplin's Wikipedia page, you can just click this.
In all honesty, Mr. Leplin could be a tough visit! He didn't suffer fools gladly, not even if the fool in question was only 12 or 13. We recall being grilled, though we can't recall about what, but the gods favored us with a very large gift when they let us see him creating some of the paintings which can be viewed at that site.
"Go touch grass," Governor Cox has said. We don't agree with everything he has said, but we do agree with that advice, where such things are possible. (We do agree with his overall tone.)
In the literal sense, we do that every day, especially at first light. We go touch grass, and we also look at trees, occasionally voicing best wishes. But yesterday, as we recalled our enormous luck at having been grilled by Emanuel Leplin, it seemed to us, at this difficult juncture, that we were getting the chance to escape in a different way.
For the record, these are "first world" bits of luck. Children will be dying around the world today. Truth to tell, their suffering plays a very small role in our lauded American discourse.
We aren't always the people we think we are. That's even true of us Blues!
The sooner the government stops subsidizing rural electricity, the sooner rural people will move into cities where they belong.
ReplyDeleteThe Governor of Utah says the alleged shooter of Charlie Kirk was definitely "of the Left", though he admitted he had no motive for the shooting.
ReplyDeleteThe motive could be that Kirk was a fascist, a child molester, or really anything.
Take a look at these people, like the comment above, who think Charlie Kirk's murder is funny.
DeleteThey think the subject of a man who was speaking and had a bullet through his neck ending his life as his 3 year old daughter ran to him, a few days ago, is fun and light.
Take a look. This is what they are.
Ready for the punchline?
These deeply damaged sociopaths think they are good. They think they are moral. They think they are compassionate.
I figured the hit was ordered by rival Fuentes who was jealous that Kirk was getting almost all the Nazi Youth grifter $$. Ye or no Ye. Fuentes never figured Kirk's PHD candidate wife is a better grifter than her husband. Now her full time career requiring constant travel will be to tell the college boys that college girls wanting careers are their main problem in life; and the wimmin should all drop out and respect their man while popping out white babies. Would not be surprised if Fuentes goes after her next. These people are very violent. Prove me wrong.
DeleteSomebody call 5:18 a whhhaaaambulance
DeleteLook on the bright side, 5:18, the Tree of Liberty hasn't looked this refreshed in ages.
Delete5:18,
DeleteIn your opinion, should anyone who fucks around find out?
Democrat women are no longer having kids so they can still serve us in various jobs, clean our houses, sit at their laminate desks with the fucked up drawer all day, get us our drink orders then go home to their cats while conservative women have lots of little babies to populate the world and bring joy to their families. Everybody wins.
Delete5:42 are you making a humorous reference to the blood that gushed from a hole in Charlie Kirk’s neck after a leftist shot and killed him for speaking?
DeleteYou Democrats have a great sense of humor. Got anymore more knee slappers?
Both sides desperately want to be able to blame the killing on their opponents.
DeleteNeither sees the logical fallacies of doing this.
In other words what these "zoomer" shooters are motivated by is rooted in the insular nuances of their particular online micro-culture which is mostly inscrutable to outsiders -- more than any obviously discernible ideological or political goal.
DeleteBoth sides desperately want to be able to blame the killing on their opponents.
DeleteLet's just put the "both sides" arguments in perspective: Trump came out to blame the "left" before it was even who the shooter was. Congress critter Nancy Mace was literally foaming at the mouth, as she was inveighing against the "left" in her expletive laden speech, again before anyone knew anything. No high ranking Democrat said anything bad about Kirk.
Yes, there are anonymous posters cracking jokes about Kirk's assassination -- that's what the anonymous posting forums are for.
Indeed. Charlie Kirk was picked at random by a zoomer in a niche culture online who didn't even know he was a famous and powerful conservative influencer.
DeleteYou humorless bores. Anonymous posting forums are for making jokes about shooting a man in the neck and watching him bleed to death. It's no big deal. Touch grass.
DeleteIlya, I don't read your posts.
DeleteI can repost as Anonymous.
DeleteLike Cecelia and David do. And yet we still recognize them for who they are.
DeleteI miss the days when criticizing Right-wingers, and not shooting them in their necks, was cancel culture.
Delete6:08 is a typical Right-wing Midwest Elite, trying to dictate what we can and can't laugh at.
DeleteI am neither David nor Cecelia. I am a midwestern elite.
DeleteCharlie Kirk said Donald Trump is a bumbling, dementia filled, alzheimer's, corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and or given the death penalty for his crimes against America. This language is inflammatory and unacceptable in this divided nation. He should have been shunned, never shot.Prove me wrong.
ReplyDeleteNothing about child rape, so this quote checks out.
DeleteUm, Joe Biden. He said those things about Biden.
DeleteSorry Quaker, accidentally criss crossed the names of Presidents. They are both so old and demented it is confusing.
DeletePoint was Kirk was part and parcel of the "moral""majorities" constant stochastic terrorism against the left. Constant murderous words from the President on down the line. Including their media, as oft documented here. But now that one of the right's own leading grifters was killed by a young man raised with guns a central part of upbringing, you say it is the words of the left that caused it. How many knots you twist in a day? Sure, the dirty libtards are really the ones at fault. Got it.
Delete"He was interested in the people. He got out and visited with them."
ReplyDeleteSounds like he was part of some weird cult.
BREAKING: Over 100 TEACHERS in Texas will now have their teacher certification suspended and become ineligible to teach in Texas public schools after they endorsed Charlie Kirk's assassination or incited more violence, Governor Greg Abbott announces.
ReplyDeletePretty soon, the only people employable in Texas will be child molesters.
DeleteI'm pretty sure that works for 6:08 above.
DeleteUsing the Kirk shooting as an excuse for more repression and authoritarianism is probably also okay, too.
7:58,
DeleteThey'll rue the day they didn't take our guns.
FDR had a secret program for weapons of mass destruction.
ReplyDeleteFDR enriched uranium.
DeleteMom and dad worked on the Manhattan Project. Proud liberal FDR Democratic Socialists aka Sanders, Mamdani, AOC, etc. today. They fucking hated fascists so bad they would take extreme measures to smash them.
DeleteLike right wingers don't believe in weapons. Pull the other leg.
DeleteGroyper leader Nick Fuentes, broke up with Kirk as Kirk was not Nazi enough. Think Robinson is a Fuentes type groyper. It is a "I Hate Women Club", not allowed to have sexytime with women. Would explain sodomy with the roommate in a wig - " the tranny boyfriend." Anyway, are we allowed to say this kind of talk is a we bit untoward, or is that cancel culture?
ReplyDelete""They're always coming up with, “No, it's not the Jews. No, it's not women. No, it's not Blacks. It's actually really complicated.” No, it fucking isn't at all. Jews are running society, women need to shut the fuck up, Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part, and we would live in paradise, it's that simple. It's literally that simple. […]
We need white men in charge of everything again. That's it. Like, it's that simple. You sort of start to get based and you kind of realize what's up, and you have this inkling in your head, you're like, man, we need white men in charge of everything. And then people kinda get convinced like, “No, it's like, it's about ideology. We need like right-wing patriots that love the free market,” or like, “No, we need like trad Christians.” It's like, no dude, we need white men running everything. OK? White men need to run the household, they need to run the country, they need to run the companies. They just need to run everything. That's a pretty good heuristic.""
Nobody can truly argue when I say growlers are right wing jagoffs. (See what I did there?)
groypers are... Speel check...
DeleteThe internet doesn't seek out innocent youth to radicalize. Those youth find the websites on the internet that allow them to exercise their dark natures.
DeleteKirk was Nazi enough. Fuentes didn't like his pro-Israel stance.
DeleteNot that Fuentes gives a shit about Palestinians.
This is a very beautiful piece of writing by Bob Somerby. Thanks.
ReplyDeletePro or con? The U.S. State Department has revoked visas for foreign nationals who celebrated the assassination of beloved conservative icon Charlie Kirk.
ReplyDeleteHow do they define "celebrated"? And can you give us a single example?
DeleteThis seems likely to be illegal.
Delete@7:20 - I believe the State Dept can revoke any visa for any reason. Rubio says visiting the US is privilege rather than a right.
DeleteGloucon - Good question. So far, this seems to be only a threat or an intention. I don't think anyone's visa has yet been revoked for celebrating Kirk's murder.
No such celebrations have taken place. So, "has revoked visas" is as specious as the claims that Robinson was a leftist.
DeleteThe article David refers to describes a Brazilian surgeon and a British rapper who each posted about the killing of Kirk. Neither is in the United States. For that matter, Rubio didn't even seem to know whether either currently holds a US visa. He has preemptively acted to make sure they don't get one. It's all performative.
Deletehttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/state-dept-revokes-visas-for-foreigners-celebrating-charlie-kirk-s-assassination-including-a-neurosurgeon-depraved/ar-AA1MBMok
Thanks, Quaker. Performative may be enough to discourage visitors from celebrating the assassination.
DeleteI'd be more concerned about Vance setting up the Reichstag fire scenario, casting wide blame on the "leftists".
DeleteIf foreigners want to come here and pick our fruit, that's fine, because Americans are too lazy to do it. But there are literally tens of millions of Americans celebrating the death of a fascist, so we don't need them in this instance.
DeleteIt isn't that Americans are "too lazy" to pick crops. It is that they are generally not in good enough physical shape to do it and make any money at it. It is physically grueling work that requires strength, a good back, and stamina. You pick all day to earn a decent amount of money. Stopping when you get tired or your back starts complaining means you won't make much because workers are paid by how much they pick, not by how many hours they spend. So working quickly and efficiently is important. Americans who have not done this type of work before discover they are not up to it and quit because they are not in condition to do it.
DeleteDenigrating farm work as a task that requires no ability is where Americans go wrong. They underestimate what it takes to make money this way and think just anyone can do it, when that is far from true.
Quaker, historically, successful models like Venice, Dubai, or Singapore were small city-states. Scale enables effective governance, but as the U.S. economy grows in size and complexity, governance becomes harder. We need even more localism than we had 50 or 100 years ago, but our systems haven’t adapted to this reality.
DeleteI find this discussion of FDR's life after polio to be a bit like Somerby's obsession with Clinton's visiting the Pentecostals while canvassing for Fulbright. Being disabled doesn't endow anyone with extra special qualities, not special talents for painting without arms, not nobility while suffering, not a special bond with other people who live in poverty. Suffering is suffering, period. Those with disabilities tend to resent this stereotype that there is some ennobling benefit to their physical or mental affliction that gives them unique insights or special powers. It is how those who are not disabled make themselves feel better about those who are.
ReplyDeleteFDR was already on track to become president before he contracted polio. He already had an affinity for people, much like Bill Clinton's, before his disability. His spa at Warm Springs was where he conducted his infidelities with women other than his wife. It was where he died during such a tryst. How noble is that?
FDR was an old school politician. Meeting and greeting people, shaking everyone's hand, taking the time to notice and talk with EVERY prospective voter, was how campaigning was done before TV. Somerby confuses this with some wonderful caring about people arising from his having polio. That wasn't what FDR was about and it isn't how disability works.
The grump old artist Somerby recalls from his own youth was not made more talented by having polio. He didn't have special insights due to being unable to use his arms. He doesn't seem to have liked children much, and it was not his job to be anyone's sage. Disabled people dislike the pressure that comes from having to become superhuman just because they have some misfortune. It is unfair to them, unrealistic in life, and not how disability affects people, especially those who become depressed or feel guilty or useless or a burden on those around them. Disabled people should be allowed to feel their real feelings, not made into icons for Somerby's patronizing lectures here.
"where he conducted his infidelities with women other than his wife."
DeleteAre there infidelities that one conducts with one's wife? At least he didn't have to pay off a porn star. Tes, FDR's infidelities are known. Does not diminish his empathy for people and their plight.
is that you, Slabby?
DeleteFDR was around during the stock market crash and early depression. I'm sure he learned about human suffering during that time.
ReplyDeleteIs Somerby willing to claim that Trump knows nothing about human suffering because he has always been rich? What about the child we are supposed to be pitying? Why hasn't Trump learned anything about human suffering?
Lack of empathy has been documented in studies of political psychology to be a trait of the right, more than the left. Lack of empathy is what makes someone like Trump use Kirk's death for political purposes. It is why the right engages in so much violence to begin with, why its agenda is only about hurting people, not helping them. It is a personality trait, not something learned by having polio. FDR most likely had empathy as a young child. People who are attracted to the right have very little empathy. The right tells them that is OK and gives plenty of outlet for their antisocial characteristics and bad behavior.
ReplyDeleteI think the question we should all be asking is why our laws don't prevent and punish the obviously criminal acts being perpetrated by the American right.
No one believes your bullshit anymore. "Has been documented in studies." The fuck outta here with that.
Delete"When future historians look back upon the current political climate in the U.S., it is likely that they will view the severe state of political polarization between liberals and conservatives as being one of its defining characteristics. While some have suggested that a difference in general levels of empathy among liberals and conservatives could be playing a role in shaping their differing political attitudes, psychologist Paul Bloom has forcefully argued against any such difference in his book “Against Empathy”. In this commentary I set out to counter Bloom’s claim that there is no significant relationship between the capacity to experience empathy and political ideology. To this end, I discuss how a growing collection of empirical research indicates that an individual’s propensity to experience empathy correlates with one’s general political attitudes (including party affiliation) as well as with which specific policy positions one takes. More specifically, this research suggests that a strong connection exists between empathy and liberal political views. In light of this research, I suggest that empathy can help account for the differences in political attitudes among liberals and conservatives in the U.S. and may even help explain why such attitudes have become increasingly polarized. The analysis provided in this essay aims to further our understanding of how personality traits can be used to predict voter attitudes in the U.S. and beyond."
DeleteEmpathy and the Liberal-Conservative Political Divide in the U.S.
Stephen G. Morris*a
[a] Department of Philosophy, College of Staten Island (CUNY), Staten Island, NY, USA.
Journal of Social and Political Psychology
"Several studies in political psychology reported higher levels of empathy among political leftists (i.e. liberals) as compared to political rightists (i.e. conservatives). Yet, all those studies lean on self-reports, which are often limited by subjective bias and conformity to social norms. Here, we tested this putative asymmetry using neuroimaging: we recorded oscillatory neural activity using magnetoencephalography while 55 participants completed a well-validated neuroimaging paradigm for empathy to vicarious suffering. The findings revealed a typical rhythmic alpha-band ‘empathy response’ in the temporal–parietal junction. This neural empathy response was significantly stronger in the leftist than in the rightist group. In addition to this dichotomous division, the neural response was parametrically associated with both self-reported political inclination and right-wing ideological values. This is the first study to reveal an asymmetry in the neural empathy response as a function of political ideology. The findings reported in this study are in line with the current literature in political psychology and provide a novel neural perspective to support the ideological asymmetry in empathy. This study opens new vistas for addressing questions in political psychology by using neuroimaging."
DeleteIdeological values are parametrically associated with empathy neural response to vicarious suffering
Niloufar Zebarjadi 1,#, Eliyahu Adler 2,3, Annika Kluge 4, Mikko Sams 5,6, Jonathan Levy 7,8,
Social, Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience
Let me know and I'll post some more. Plenty where this came from.
DeleteReminder that Somerby stopped asking us to listen to Right-wingers, after we reported back how they are all bigots.
DeleteMore evidence Trump has dementia:
ReplyDelete"The Daily Beast reported Monday that in the latest episode of the podcast "Shrinking Trump," psychologists John Gartner (who was educated at the prestigious Johns Hopkins University) and Harry Segal (a psychology professor at Cornell University) said Trump's pattern of falling asleep in public is particularly concerning for the 79 year-old president. They pointed to Trump's attendance at the U.S. Open men's singles final between Italy's Jannik Sinner and Spain's Carlos Alcaraz as just the latest example of a pattern the president has exhibited before.
"You’re at the finals of the U.S. Open, a riveting performance ... you’re the center of attention," Gartner said. "So how does Trump react? Oh, he’s asleep again, just like he slept through most of the days of his criminal trial." [Rawstory]
Riveting? For the President of the United States? Watching a sports event is less riveting than just about every part of his job.
DeleteAs if giving huge tax breaks to woke Disney isn't riveting enough.
DeleteTrump's tripling of the deficit is way more riveting than some dumb old tennis match.
Let's talk about JD Vance who used the hill folk of Appalachia to further his career, writing a bunch of lies that presented a negative picture of a place he didn't actually grow up. Does Somerby imagine that Vance has any empathy for those people, who he maligned as hillbillies?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-lede/the-story-that-hillbilly-elegy-doesnt-tell
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64703978/
From Wikipedia:
"However, other journalists criticized Vance for generalizing too much from his personal upbringing in suburban Ohio.[15][16][17][18] Jared Yates Sexton of Salon criticized Vance for his "damaging rhetoric" and for endorsing policies used to "gut the poor". He argues that Vance "totally discounts the role racism played in the white working class's opposition to President Obama."[19] Sarah Jones of The New Republic mocked Vance as "the false prophet of Blue America," dismissing him as "a flawed guide to this world" and the book as little more than "a list of myths about welfare queens repackaged as a primer on the white working class."[16]
Historian Bob Hutton wrote in Jacobin that Vance's argument relied on circular logic and eugenics, ignored existing scholarship on Appalachian poverty, and was "primarily a work of self-congratulation."[15] Sarah Smarsh with The Guardian noted that "most downtrodden whites are not conservative male Protestants from Appalachia" and called into question Vance's generalizations about the white working class from his personal upbringing.[17]
The book provoked a response in the form of an anthology, Appalachian Reckoning: A Region Responds to Hillbilly Elegy, edited by Anthony Harkins and Meredith McCarroll. The essays in the volume criticize Vance for making broad generalizations and reproducing myths about poverty.[18]
The book was discussed in an episode of the podcast If Books Could Kill."
Probably not the best idea to inspire millions of armed young acolytes of Kirk to vengeance.
ReplyDeleteThey cry if you make a joke about them on the internet.
DeleteThe Right aren't to be feared. They are to be laughed at.
When the left was safe they said they were fearful. Now that they’re not safe, they say they’re not fearful.
Delete10:58,
DeleteAre the Left akin to innocent First Graders being shot-up by a mental health flunky on the Right, in your scenario?
I know that this will get David to start kvetching and bellyaching...I was just reading a NY Times article how Trump is instructing the DoJ to go after "radical leftist" donors, e.g. Soros; and start using RICO against them. So, this is just like the Reichstag fire. Trump, I am sure has never heard of it, but intuitively he's using the fascist playbook. On the slimmest of pretenses. Some young kid from a rightwing family shoots a rightwing blowhard and...that's enough.
ReplyDeleteIllustrating Godwin's Law
DeleteHere's a link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/jd-vance-charlie-kirk-show.html
DeleteThe administration is proposing persecution of the opposition, using a single, still poorly understood incident. Again, you don't quite understand the things that you cite, such as Godwin's Law.
I can use Putin orchestrating apartment bombing in Moscow as a mechanism to acquire more power.
DeleteIs ANTIFA a terrorist organization? Yes, indeed IMO. Their many acts of terrorism have been under-reported by the MSM, so many of you may be unaware of all the violence and terrorism they've committed. The President should absolutely designate ANTIFA to be a terrorist organization.
DeleteIs it a RICO violation to donate money to an organization who uses that money to fund terrorist attacks? I am not a good enough lawyer to know the answer.
Gentle reminder that President Golf's When He's Not Raping Children has convicted exactly zero members of Antifa for the many acts of violence and terrorism they've committed.
DeleteFor you Right-wingers who weren't indoctrinated by a Second Grade math teacher, zero is less than one.
@11:27 You can find numerous convictions of ANTIFA at https://duckduckgo.com/?q=antifa+convicted&atb=v426-1&ia=web
DeleteFake news, David.
DeleteWhat else you got?
Yep, David, it's what anon@11:27 says. Antifa hasn't done anything. It has nothing to do with Kirk's killing. The "left" has nothing to do with this. Yet, the administration is unencumbered by facts is forging ahead.
DeleteTo use RICO, which in my opinion is a bad law, you have to establish a pattern of criminal activity. Point to me to the terrorist activities that were financed by the Democratic party. Just one. Forget about a pattern.
Reichstag fire, David. This is it. Read history. Learn things. Quit filling your head with the bullshit from Instapundit or whatever trash websites you're visiting. No, random people, who may be Russian bots "celebrating" Kirk's murder do not mean squat. You don't even know whether they exist or what their affiliation is.
Ilya - Can I assume that you accept my point that Antifa committed numerous violent crimes? Now, you are probably right that Antifa had nothing to do with the Kirk shooting. If that's your point, I agree with you.
DeleteTrump did not accuse the Dem party of funding Antifa or any other terrorist group. He said some (unidentified) people were funding the terrorists and that act might be a crime.
Ilya - Can I assume that you accept my point that Antifa committed numerous violent crimes? No.
DeleteFrom the NY Times:
DeleteIn recent days, Mr. Trump has renewed calls for prosecutors to file racketeering charges against George Soros, one of the Democratic Party’s biggest donors. Mr. Trump and his allies have long claimed without evidence that Mr. Soros foments violent protests.
Ilya and @11:38 I wish I understood your point. I provided a link with descriptions of crimes committed by Antifa. Can you please explain why you call that Fake News?
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Deletehttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=antifa+crimes+portland&atb=v426-1&ia=web
DeleteMore links to Antifa crimes
Your a fascist planting false flags David. You must be ignored as your work here has shown you to be mistook, misread, or misinformed approximately 99.874% of the time.i.e. an ignorant shit poster and gaslighter. Fuck off fascist David.
DeleteIlya, if George fucking Soros didn't fund the Jewish space lasers just who da fuck did?
DeleteThe faggot left is in for a reckoning.
ReplyDeleteI watched cops stand down while a crowd at a Kirk memorial beat the shit out of a communist for trying to deface the mural. Good stuff. More to come.
DeleteBut the Tree Of Liberty sure does look refreshed.
DeleteThanks Charlie.
The Left shooting Charlie Kirk to distract the Right from raping even more children, is an aspect of the story that has been shamefully under-reported by the media.
DeleteFucking eighties all in on the deep state beating others up. While the asses bitch about the dumbass lady that got herself shot 1/6. Putz's, prove me wrong.
DeleteI wish they shot Charlie Kirk in an Elementary school, so everyone would forget about it, already.
ReplyDeleteI’ll enjoy watching the “hate speech” laws drawn just so around the faggot, Antifa, and BLM terrorist rats nests. The best legal gerrymandering you’ll ever see.
ReplyDeleteNever let a crisis go to waste.