THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2025
We'd seen this stew served before: Last Wednesday, the fact that Charlie Kirk had died was announced at roughly 5 p.m. Eastern.
At exactly 5:26 p.m., former president Barack Obama offered this post on X. As we type this very morning, the former president's post has been viewed 105.3 million times:
Barack Obama
@BarackObama
We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie’s family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children.
5:26 PM Sep 10, 2025
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/10/obama-condemns-kirk-shooting/86084145007/
That's what Obama posted. A few hours later, USA Today published this report about Obama's message:
Barack Obama condemns 'despicable violence' in the shooting of Charlie Kirk
Former President Barack Obama condemned the shooting that led to the death of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk on Wednesday, Sept. 10.
"We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy," Obama wrote in a post on X.
Kirk, 31, was shot during a question-and-answer session with students during a Turning Points USA event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah.
For the record, it was true! A few hours after the shooting occurred; thirty minutes after the announcement of Charlie Kirk's death; we still didn't know what had motivated the assailant. The report in USA Today also noted that former president Biden has posted a similar message:
"There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now."
So said former president Biden—and that was where matters stood. Three days later, a 25-year-old independent journalist focused on Obama's post when she appeared on Fox & Friends Weekend.
Her name was Evita Duffy-Alonso. Interviewed by Kevin Corke, this is what she said:
CORKE (9/13/25): As we continue to celebrate Charlie's life and memory, shocking and sickening celebrations of his death have occurred on social media, and those who are mourning him have actually faced heated backlash. Independent journalist Evita Duffy-Alonso joining us now with reaction.
So great to have you with us, my friend! I just want to set the table here by asking you about your experience as you watch some of the reaction. How has it struck you?
DUFFY-ALFONSO: I mean, it's been unconscionable. I mean, this is—the reaction itself is such a good example of how there is no intellectual diversity on the left.
Not only is there no intellectual diversity on the left towards the right, they're not even tolerant of diversity on their own side. And there are deadly consequences, clearly, to not agreeing with them.
Obama said, right after Charlie was killed, "We don't know what motivated this." I think Obama should know what motivated this. It was his entire political career, sprung out of his close relationship with left-wing terrorist Bill Ayers.
Between 1971 and 1972, an 18-month period, left-wing terrorists set off nearly five bombs a day in American cities. So it went from the Weather Underground to our institutions, and what Charlie Kirk did is he went to our institutions, the heart of the indoctrination machine of the left, and he evangelized young people.
Young men have swung, between 2023 and 2025, 44 points to the right. That is why they hated him so much.
For the record we don't know if that last statistic is accurate.
At any rate, that's what the young independent journalist said. First, she delivered a childish paraphrase of what Obama had said. Then she delivered a bomb.
On what meat doth this our Caesar feed? Shakespeare had Cassius asking that question in his well-known play, The Tragedy of Julius Caesar.
In the present day, angry presentations like the one delivered by the young journalist constitute the type of meat on which this nation's largest "cable news" audience is force-fed around the clock.
For today, let's clear one mystery up. Yes, the 25-year-old Duffy-Alfonso is the daughter of Rachel Campos-Duffy, the genial but unfailingly tribal co-host of the Fox & Friends Weekend program.
This fact was mentioned that morning during the 7 o'clock hour. It wasn't mentioned by the genial Corke as he introduced and spoke with the angry young woman he addressed as "my friend."
For the record, there's nothing automatically wrong with having a sibling or a child appear on a cable news program. This very morning, Mika Brzezinski introduced her brother, Ian Brzezinski, as a guest on Morning Joe.
There is one apparent difference. Ian Brzezinski is 62 years old. He's also a highly experienced foreign policy specialist. According to the leading authority on his career, "he served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Europe and NATO Policy in 2001–2005," and so on from there.
By way of contrast, the "independent journalist" who appeared on Fox is only 25. That doesn't mean that her views are automatically "wrong."
That doesn't mean that her views are wrong. But in this instance, she principally showcased her ability to respond with a type of irrational tribal anger to a statement in which the person she chose to attack said that he and his wife would be praying for the family of the man who was killed.
Also this:
As we noted yesterday, the young journalist's angry attack on the former president didn't seem to make any sense as a matter of basic history.
Some of what she said was a bit hard to parse. But her astonishing claim—her unexplained claim that the murder of Kirk had been motivated by President Obama's entire career—didn't seem to make any sense, except as an example of the meat upon which Red America's "cable news viewers are persistently asked to feed.
The killing was motivated by Obama's career? As we speak, Jimmy Kimmel has been removed from the air for a fuzzy statement on Monday night—a fuzzy statement which was itself hard to justify.
But even as Kimmel is removed from the air, presentations like Duffy-Alfonso's will continue to be blared out all over the Fox News Channel, with no one in Blue America willing to notice, report or care.
As we noted yesterday, Duffy-Alfonaso seemed to be completely sincere as she dropped her atom bomb on the former president's head. She was telegenic, but also "full of passionate intensity" as she came over the walls.
Obama had said that he was praying for Kirk's family members. Three days later, this young woman was still in a state of fury on a major "cable news" show, as her genial mother looked on.
Can a nation gripped by such tribal furies really expect to survive? We can't say that the answer is clear. This afternoon, we'll link you to the puzzling thing that Heather Cox Richardson seems to have said on that very same day, or perhaps on the day before.
That said:
As we watched the "independent journalist" present viewers of her mother's show the latest reason to hate Obama, we thought of an earlier remarkable claim—a remarkable claim about Obama which was made, on that same weekend show, in the wake of the murderous attacks of October 7, 2023.
The "journalist" who sounded off that day was Batya Ungar-Sargon. At the time, she was a 42-year-old Berkeley grad. She was also the deputy opinion editor of Newsweek.
Former president Barack Obama had made a set of remarks about the October 7 attacks. His remarks weren't sufficiently tribal for the furious Newsweek employee in question, and so she went on Fox & Friends Weekend and told Campos-Duffy this:
UNGAR-SARGON (11/5/23): Thank you so much for having me, Rachel. Thank you for your incredible courage at this time, and I also just have to say thank you to everybody at Fox News, every producer, every writer,
You guys have been incredible in a sea of antisemitic media and bigotry. So thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart.
Speaking of signs, I was joking with a friend over Shabbat that the progressives need a new sign for their yard, right?
"Black Lives Matter," "In This House We Trust Science," :No Human is Illegal"—and "Kill the Jews," right?
I mean, that's what we're seeing.
According to the Newsweek editor, progressives needed a new new sign for their yards! With apologies, that sign should say this:
"Kill the Jews."
Campos-Duffy just smiled right along with this—and as she continued, Ungar-Sargon threw Obama into the stew:
UNGAR-SARGON (continuing directly): [An earlier speaker] is absolutely correct that the progressive movement is deeply, deeply antisemitic. Rashida Tlaib out there defending Hamas' chant, "From the river to the sea?" Why would anyone pick that as the hill to die on, I don't know.
But even President Obama, out there with a clip yesterday with absolute moral equivalency between Hamas and Israel. Absolutely disgusting stuff.
[...]
I feel very sure that this country will not accept this progressive movement with this disgusting antisemitism and anti-Israel sentiment. and we're going to see the unity of the American people and the good heartedness of the American people prevail.
To watch that interview, you can just click here.
As she delivered this poisonous message, Ungar-Sargon praised "the good heartedness of the American people." Along the way, she herself had said this:
In his recent presentation, President Obama had produced "absolutely disgusting stuff." The former president apparently needed a sign on his lawn. That sign should say this:
Kill the Jews!
At the time, we spent an entire week—November 6 - November 10—week discussing this ugly, inane performance. What had Obama actually said? To recall what the rank antisemite had said, you can start by clicking here.
That was our post from November 7, 2023. This was part of the "absolutely disgusting stuff" the rank antisemite had said:
What Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it....And what is also true is that there is a history of the Jewish people that may be dismissed unless your grandparents, or your great-grandparents, or your uncle or your aunt, tell you stories about the madness of antisemitism.
That wasn't enough for the overwrought Fox & Friends Weekend guest. To her, the former president rather clearly wanted to kill the Jews.
By clicking that link, you can read a larger chunk of what Obama said. Campos-Duffy made no attempt to challenge Ungar-Sargon's astounding characterization of his lengthy remarks.
Today, Ungar-Sargon is still in the business. We've seen her featured several times as a guest on CNN's horrible shoutfest show, NewsNight with Abby Phillip.
We assume that Ungar-Sargon was completely sincere in what she said about Obama the absolutely disgusting antisemite. So was Duffy-Alfonso last Saturday morning.
That said, their furious, extremely ugly statements were examples of what we called "Humans at war" in our reports about Ungar-Sargon. This is what we humans are inclined to do when we start marching to tribal war.
Back in 2023, we saw no one say a single word about what Ungar-Sargon had said. This week, we've seen no one say a word about the young journalist's screed.
The Fox News Channel attacks Blue America all day long, and then long into the night. The pampered stars of Blue American media have agreed they must never report or respond.
They must never report what occurs on that "cable news" channel. They must never discuss what gets said.
As we've noted in the past, the Achaeans are currently coming over the walls! According to Professor Knox, this is the lesson the ancient Greeks learned from what had occurred at Troy after the furious Achaean troops finally came over those walls
The images of that night assault—the blazing palaces, the blood running in the streets, old Priam butchered at the altar, Cassandra raped in the temple, Hector's baby son thrown from the battlements, his wife Andromache dragged off to slavery—all this, foreshadowed in the Iliad, will be stamped indelibly on the consciousness of the Greeks throughout their history...to reinforce the stern lesson of Homer's presentation of the war: that no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force.
At this point, the journalistic elites of Blue America seem to be politely awaiting that failing nation's end. You simply can't get our stars to report what happens at the Fox News Channel.
They're willing to talk about "social media." They aren't willing to say the names of the various soldiers at Fox.
Judging from appearances, no one wants to tangle with Fox! David Brooks won't report or discuss the squalor of the Fox News Channel. How about Bruni or Stephens? How about David French?
Tomorrow: Two members of Congress react
The level of sociopathy and depravity on the Democrat left is shocking. We knew it was bad but Charlie Kirk's murder has fully exposed it, even in this forum. These are not people you want any association with, in friendship or even family. They are moral grotesqueries.
ReplyDelete86 47.
Delete"Fox News host Brian Kilmeade said homeless people should receive "involuntary lethal injections" Wednesday on Fox and Friends."
DeleteThe Dems have so much to learn from our moral betters.
What does “86 47” mean?
Delete"They" Interesting that Republicans, drunk on their power, are making the exact same overreach mistakes Democrats did.
Delete86 47 means the Supreme Leader's fridge is short on brains today, and his handlers should take him off the menu until restocked.
DeleteWho doesn't remember the Democratic Supreme Court declaring Biden is above the law and allowing him to order his ICE army to remove people without due process?
DeleteTrump is the 47th president. To '86' someone is to throw them out.
DeleteThanks. Do you also happen to know how ’86’ got that meaning?
DeleteI take it you never worked at a restaurant.
DeleteIt is an attack on the President and all who say it should be deported. It also rhymes with nix.
DeleteShould we deport the person who said this: “ Joe Biden is a bumbling, dementia filled, alzheimer's, corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."
DeleteI know 10:18, I can't stand hanging out with Democracy haters anymore either. Republicans just can't stop destroying it.
DeleteFree tip for the Lefties today. Try not to use “killed the First Amendment” about a comedian getting shitcanned a week after your side assassinated someone for speaking.
ReplyDeletePlease tell us more things we aren’t allowed to say, despite the existence of the first amendment.
DeleteI guess some need instructions on what speech decent employers will justifiably fire you for because they shock the consciences of normal and decent people.
Delete"It's good that a young man was shot in the neck for speaking at a college campus"
"The murder victim was slain by his political allies" (when he was slain by his political opponents).
Yes our side teaches boys to fondle guns instead of fondling girls, you weird ass groypers.
DeleteApparently not fireable: “kill the homeless.” “Obama wants to kill the Jews.” “Obama caused Kirk’s death.”
DeleteAdmittedly, the rules seem to exhibit a bit of a double standard.
It's just an expression, 10:33. Such a snowflake.
DeleteCharlie was a 2A supporter. Robinson is a 2A supporter. At least on this one issue, they agree, and the murderer is no liberal.
DeleteRepublican or any boys enjoying a machine that can affect something at a distance and is useful for protection of a family or tribe from aggressors is not in itself harmful. Spatial things are intriguing to boys and that is why we have shelter and food.
DeleteDemocrat boys enjoying an assassination for speech is deranged.
Do Democrats not learn about right and wrong in Kindergarten, or do they forget it all once influenced by the cesspits of "college" or furry and LGBT reddit?
I don’t recall the first amendment placing restrictions on speech if it’s “deranged”.
DeleteName and quote Democratic leadership saying awful things about nasty ass fascist Kirk.
DeletePlease do explain to us what the fuck you mean by "the cesspools of college." Other than the more educated you are the less likely you are to fall for Republican bullshit and outright lies, of course.
DeleteImagine thinking "college" and "educated" are related in 2025. You can always tell who the out of touch boomer hippies are.
DeleteName those nationally elected Republicans who are not college educated? Are they all out of touch boomer hippies? (Another in the long series of Great Points by the Right! - that make zero sense.)
Delete“ Jimmy Kimmel has been removed from the air for a fuzzy statement on Monday night—a fuzzy statement which was itself hard to justify.”
ReplyDeleteHis removal process proves the truth of his statement.
Typo. Meant to say: “His removal proves the truth of his statement.”
DeleteWhy didn't Somerby simply quote what Kimmel actually said? Kimmel outrage is plainly another example of how the mighty right wing Wurlitzer whines about the truth to deflect from it, and build upon their glorious bullshit mountain. Kimmel just pointed out how Republicans are using Kirk's murder to feed bullshit mountain's never ending appetite. Same as always. Funny how all you weirdos are AOK with the deep state run by the demented Orange face handlers.
DeleteWhat am I supposed to do about it?
DeletePunch a Nazi in the face is step one.
DeleteThe only problem with that plan is that I'm not retarded.
DeleteNobody ever said you weren't.
DeleteI am retarded, but I do not punch Nazis.
DeleteIt was amusing when photos of Trump with Epstein, of the smutty birthday letter from Trump to Epstein, and videos of them partying together were projected in giant size onto Windsor Castle.
ReplyDeleteWhen it came to obtaining $1.5B in Epstein bank XFRs, the always lying about getting to the bottom of the Epstein child rape horror - Republicans did this:
Delete"But when it came time to vote on Raskin’s motion, committee Chair Jim Jordan of Ohio quickly approved a Republican move to table it, or shoot it down before lawmakers could discuss it. Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, a lead sponsor of a resolution seeking to force the release of all the government's files on Epstein, was the only Republican siding with Democrats in opposing that move and supporting the subpoena effort." Chucklefucks.
Such empty vessels, why do you still give them your love. (And if you are a strapping young male wrestler, Gym Jordan wants to give you his love from The Ohio State University.)
What did Ilhan Omar say about Charlie Kirk? The censure resolution, which failed because four brave Republicans opposed it, didn’t quote her.
ReplyDelete"If Charlie Kirk were my brother I would marry him."
DeleteWell, she didn’t say that. So I guess she really didn’t say anything wrong.
DeleteSo let us examine just how full of hate she is:
Delete“It was really mortifying to hear the news, to see the video. All I could think about was his wife, his children. That image is going to live forever,” Omar says.
“There are a lot of people who are out there talking about him [Kirk] just wanting to have a civil debate,” says Omar. “These people are full of shit, and it's important for us to call them out while we feel anger and sadness.”
Talk about fucking snowflakes.
Clearly Omar is unhinged hater that needs to be executed in a fishing boat!
“The pampered stars of Blue American media have agreed they must never report or respond.”
ReplyDeleteNot sure if Somerby considers Kimmel or Colbert to be media figures, but they do a lot of political content on their shows, directly confronting republicans, Fox News, and Trump. You see what happened to them. Trump is now demanding Fallon and Seth Myers be cancelled.
The Washington post? Bezos has bent the knee to Trump. New York Times? They are currently being sued for billions by Trump.
O’Donnell does mention fox, but last night he attacked corporations for their history of acquiescing to right wing bullying in the US.
Not that long ago, Musk and Trump were musing about taking over MSNBC.
Just saying.
Also should point out that people like David Muir, being employed by Disney/ABC, and whose audience vastly exceeds anything on any cable network, would presumably face Kimmel’s fate if he began actually showing America how depraved Fox News (ie republicans) is.
Delete“The pampered stars of Blue American media are told they must never report or respond.”
DeleteFTFY
O'Donnell was great last night, showing clips of Kaitlin Collins interviewing Todd Blanch, with Blanch just straight out lying to her face and Collins being so clueless, incompetent or scared of her own shadow to ever challenge any of his lies. O'Donnell just states matter-of-factly how no one at CNN will dare to challenge the administrations lies.
DeleteEvery time I watch O’Donnell these days, I wonder if he is making his employers uncomfortable. He often speaks unvarnished truth.
DeleteHe is fearless. The white house press corps should hang their head in shame.
DeleteO'Donnell will save us with the fire of his youth and passion.
DeleteNo, but it is good to see a true profile in courage in the media nowadays. It is so fucking rare.
DeleteSomebody needs to, 1:03. Are you trying? It doesn’t hurt to point out someone fighting the good fight, dipshit, at least until he gets fired as well.
DeleteRepublicans watching fascists consolidate all Government power who imprison people without due process and illegally blow up fishing boats, freedom!
ReplyDeletethe FREE SPEECH party - Matt Taibbi will get right on it.
DeleteRemember the greatest attack in free speech in history? The “censorship regime and the weaponization of government” by the Biden administration?
DeleteCBS News’ ‘bias monitor’ is a win for Trump — and a warning for everyone
DeleteYou don’t have to like the news media to be repulsed by the idea of a thought-police informant in a news organization. It’s an affront to freedom of speech.
Now we know why King Orange Chickenshit spent so much time entertaining Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
The media, always with their framing of things via headlines. “In massive win for Trump…”
Deletedid you ever hear of a fucking President demanding a news organization install a bias monitor? This is fucking straight up Orwellian.
Delete"massive"?
DeleteYeah, dipshit @1:28, here’s an example:
Delete“Trump Gets Massive Win as Fani Willis Disqualified From Georgia Case”
https://newrepublic.com/post/189557/donald-trump-georgia-fani-willis-disqualified
Following Kirk’s recommendations, Kimmel will be replaced by nightly airings of the executions of prisoners, preferably by hanging or firing squad.
ReplyDeleteI'm expecting the Trump Show to be announced early next year.
DeleteIt is based on the "Truman Show."
Delete"They're willing to talk about "social media." They aren't willing to say the names of the various soldiers at Fox."
ReplyDelete"They're willing to talk about "social media." They aren't willing to say the names of the various soldiers at Fox."
DeleteThey may be willing, but they're still doing a poor job of it. Most mainstream reporting still treats social media as if it is limited to X, Facebook, and Instagram. It also covers social media like users are seeing content posted by their own friends and neighbors.
Social media is a major source of news and information for much of our population and what they see and read and hear is shaped by vaguely understood algorithms that are designed to keep people engaged and not necessarily informed. Much of the content is being created by unknown or disguised entities.
It's not just cat videos anymore.
Unknown entities are pretty much headed by Xi & Putin. What could go wrong?
DeleteNo problem. Xi and Putin are skilled managers of unknown entities.
DeleteWhat did Kimmel say? To find out, click here.
ReplyDeleteWell that explains the real reason Kimmel was fired. The Orange can't handle being exposed for the fake ass he is:
DeleteKimmel has also mocked Trump for a specific comment he made in response to being asked by a reporter how he was personally “holding up” after the assassination of Kirk, who he has said was a friend.
Trump had replied saying he was “very good” and then immediately started boasting about the new ballroom he is building at the White House.
Kimmel said after the clip: “This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.”
Little man has fee fees hurt. Little man so sad. Little man smash shit to get even.
Trump is a chickenshit punk. Big brave punk shitting all over a reporter doing his job when he is surrounded by secret service, but a fucking lying coward cowering behind his lawyer in the courtroom. This fucking country giving that baby unchecked power is fucking insane.
DeleteHe got shot in the head. Shut the fuck up.
DeleteThere was already something wrong with Trump before that.
DeleteChildren were shot in the head on the same day. You shut the fuck up if you don't care about children getting shot in the head you sick bastard.
DeleteActually he was shot in the neck.
DeleteTrump was never shot in the head or the neck.
DeleteThe ear is part of the head.
Deletea microscopic piece of plastic teleprompter is not a bullet.
DeleteYou don’t know if it was the bullet or a fragment of the teleprompter. But Trump was wounded in the ear, which is part of his head.
DeleteWhy don't I know? Think about that.
DeleteBecause you can’t see small things moving hundreds of meters per second.
DeleteSo much winning and all it costs is our constitutional freedoms. Well worth it.
ReplyDelete"Elizabeth Warren - Under Donald Trump’s economy:
Coffee is up 26%
Beef is up 14%
Oranges are up 17%
Bananas are up 6%
Chicken is up 6%
Chocolate Chip Cookies are up 5%
Potato Chips are up 4%
Milk is up 4%
But average worker pay is only up 2%
Trumpflation is eating up your paycheck."
It is all worth it if we can lock up/deport all of the niclang members.
Worth it at twice that.
DeleteAt least Kimmel was fired. That makes it all good.
DeleteWhat does “niclang” mean?
DeleteIt would have been offensive to report that civil rights workers were responsible for killing MLK.
ReplyDeleteFuck off fascist Dave.
DeleteFwacisss! Fwacisss!
Delete2. Because of widespread public allegations of FBI complicity in the assassination, the committee recognized that FBI files were potentially tainted. Ultimately, however, the committee's investigation uncovered no evidence to support the allegations (see section II D). The committee did note major deficiencies in the scope and method of the FBI's postassassination investigation (see section II E). Nevertheless, the committee was satisfied that it could consult FBI files as one of a number of sources of information in the case.
DeleteFucking FBI deep state shit. Amiright DiC?
Maybe, DiC, but it’s also offensive to say “they”, meaning the Left, killed Kirk, or to suggest it was Obama’s fault. Don’t you agree? Oh wait, you already blamed the left in multiple comments over the past few days, completely rejecting Somerby’s objections to that kind of rhetoric.
DeleteMotive and opportunity: Ray, a known racist, had escaped from a Missouri prison in 1967. He traveled to Memphis, purchased the murder weapon, and was in a rooming house with a direct line of sight to King's motel balcony on the day of the assassination.
DeleteCivil rights worker and avowed racist DiC says what is.
If you want to know how ordinary Germans reacted to Hitler; watch David in Cal for tips.
DeleteIf you cried or felt sick when Charlie Kirk was shot through the neck while speaking to college students, I want my kids around you and your family.
ReplyDeleteIf you were gratified or had no reaction, I want you shunned, fired, shamed into silence,. Possibly imprisoned depending on your words. I want you nowhere near decent people.
If you voted for Donald J Chickenshit, you are not welcome in my home.
Delete1:10 is Stephen Miller. Hi, Steve.
Delete90% of America: Who da fuck is Charlie Kirk?
DeleteI'm allergic to multiple litterboxes and patchouli anyway 1:13
Delete"Trump, who relishes belittling people with unpresidential insults, like calling democrats ‘scum’ and ‘the enemy within,’ can’t take it when his slurs boomerang back at him." You all a bunch of whiny snowflakes. Don't worry though, I called you babies a whaaaambulance.
DeleteThe country despises Trump. That is why he has to double down on his authoritarianism.
DeleteCharlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson played ‘Furry Shades of Gay’ porn video games online, Daily Mail reports.
ReplyDeleteLet's make sure we tell children they can be girls or boys so we can unleash millions more of these FREAKS onto civil society.
Worst case jagging off to cartoons, unlike Trump who raped breathing little girls.
DeleteNEW: ILLEGAL ALIEN from Guatemala being harbored under Democract Washington State sanctuary law, SLAUGHTERS TWO WOMEN.
ReplyDeleteMarvin Ortiz Montecinos, barbarically stabbed one female 20-times and the other 40-times.
Another killer Democrats were hiding from ICE.
Doesn't matter. The pecking order for good liberals is brown male > helpless female.
DeleteOnly a few tens of thousands of daughters mothers and sisters will be raped and slaughtered every year.
Worth it to stick it to white people. Our best soldiers for the cause are liberal white women.
If people came with signs on their foreheads saying "danger -- will kill" then we could know whether to treat them like human beings or monsters. Robinson, Kirk's killer, obviously had no such sign on his forehead during the years when his parents treated him like a beloved son. Maybe it would be better if everyone just locked up everyone else so that no future murders could ever be committed unexpectedly.
DeleteAnd obviously, no truly American man has every killed women in a brutal manner, not even Ted Bundy. So Democrats should have known that all Guatemalans are dangerous. One wonders how they run a country with all their killing going on over there.
Commenters like 1:56 have chosen this blog, for some reason, to spout the current right wing propaganda, giving Somerby the opportunity to see the “Fox News” mentality up close and personal.
DeleteNo one could have guessed that a hateful politically obsessed drop out with a trannie boyfriend spending 12 hours a day on LGBT furry and Antifa platforms would ever commit violence.
DeleteNo one could have guessed that a gun-nut couple would have a violent son.
DeleteNo one would have guessed that the son of a real estate mogul in NYC would rape little girls.
Delete"According to Professor Knox, this is the lesson the ancient Greeks learned from what had occurred at Troy after the furious Achaean troops finally came over those walls..."
ReplyDeleteKnox speaks about Troy as if it were a real place and the plot of the Iliad were history and not FICTION. We don't know that Troy ever existed and we certainly don't know whether those Achaean troops were furious and not merely greedy, bored and following orders. We don't know whether they ever existed either.
So, when Somerby quotes this passage: "...no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force..." and claims this was stamped indelibly on Greek minds because the sacking of Troy was so horrific, he is talking about events that were made up (perhaps by Homer, but no one knows about that either for sure).
Somerby bolds those lines. Why? Is he suggesting that we must be as strong as any possible opponents if our nation is to survive? Or is he saying the Democrats must be as strong as the Republicans if the Democrats are to survive as a party? Somerby never tells us why this quote (bolded in previous essays as well) means so much to him. It could even be inferred that we need to be as furious as the Achaeans if we are to survive.
Somerby's fascination with the warrior aspects of the Iliad makes no sense given his refusal to clearly state his own opinions. He keeps clamoring for Blue media to stick its neck out more by calling out Fox, but he won't commit any act of courage by stating his own views. And that makes him unlike anyone in Troy or on the beach outside it. I've never seen anyone so obsessed with writing every day who is afraid to state his own opinions about anything. Even the tepid remarks he makes are hedged with "anything is possible" but anyone he mentions is a good decent person and opinions may vary. This is not someone with the right to lecture Blue America about having courage or strength or bigger boats or whatever might have defeated the Achaeans (Troy was under siege, which is where you lock the doors and refuse to come out, not where you fight a pitched battle).
The people Somerby criticizes have the guts to say something or write something concrete. They stick their necks out. So did Kimmel and Colbert, which is why I admire them, whether I agree with them or not. Somerby hides like a turtle.
Troy existed, and Achaea existed.
DeleteYes, 2:18, but there is little to no historical evidence that there was a “Trojan war” depicted in the Iliad, or that the ruins called “troy” were the city identified in the Iliad.
DeleteSo don’t deny that they existed.
DeleteThe Troy of the Iliad may well be fiction. That is the point of my comment at 2:34.
DeleteThese blog comments are a cesspool of right wing garbage. Why doesn't Somerby moderate his comments before he calls for Blue America to try to moderate the press?
ReplyDeleteHe likes presiding over a cesspool.
DeleteTrump asks Supreme Court to let him fire Lisa Cook from Federal Reserve
ReplyDeleteEmergency!! Emergency!! Clarence, please let me fire the black woman. Emergency!! Emergency!!
Hey, fellow froggies, does it feel like the water is getting a little warm yet?
DeleteShe embarrassed them by filling out her mortgage loans correctly as opposed to their lies about it. She must be punished for her potential to have committed a very minor crime.
DeleteScott Bessent committed mortgage fraud.
Delete