WHAT WAS "MENTAL ILLNESS?" Is President Trump "mentally ill?"

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2025

Our Blue stars didn't ask: Is the sitting president, Donald J. Trump, afflicted with some (serious) version of (what used to be referred to as) "mental illness?"

You'd almost think that we the people would actually want to know! At present, the children who pose as Blue America's journalists are happily noting the aforementioned gentleman's descent in several polls.

To appearances, the gentleman's behavior has become so disordered that some of his voters are starting to notice! But uh-oh! As our journalists gambol and play, this question goes unasked:

What might such a ("mentally ill") person decide to do if the bottom completely falls out?

Along the way in this vale of tears, two (2) best-selling books have used a certain word in discussing the person in question. One book appeared in 2017. The other appeared three years later:

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President
Bandy Lee, M.D., M.Div. (ed.). MacMillan, 2017.

Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man
Mary L. Trump, Ph.D. Simon & Schuster, 2020.

The word in question was "dangerous." If the bottom falls out on President Trump, could he place the nation, even the world, in a state of real danger?

You'd almost think we'd want to know that! But if you thought some such thing, you were misjudging the capabilities of the species in question.

At any rate, this very Monday, there he went again! 

Last week, the gentleman ranted, for two consecutive days, about all the human "garbage" he'd spotted in Minnesota. Over the weekend, at a White House Christmas reception, he spent ten (10) minutes inventing wild claims about a terrible bite from a terrible snake in Peru. 

What was the point of that extremely strange story? The president ended up pretending that a book about this terrible bite had become the nation's number one best sellerall because he, President Donald J. Trump, had mentioned the book on Truth Social. 

All self-praise to the glorious Trump! That was the obvious point of the fantasized snake bite story.

That said, the president burned ten minutes away in that lunatic wayat a Christmas reception, no less! And on Monday, there he went again, with a pair of lunatic declarations in which he savaged the memory of a widely admired public figure who had been murdered, over the weekend, by his own disordered son.

It was the "garbage," followed by the snake, then on to the crackpot double denigration of the murdered Rob Reiner and his wife. This followed a steady succession of lunatic behaviors over the past few months, most of which have been disappeared by Blue American "journalists."

In previous weeks, the person in question had dropped tons of poop from an airplane down onto his subjects' heads. He had told the world that the Democratic Party was actually "the party of Satan."

He kept making lunatic claims about a succession of policy matterslunatic claims he kept repeating after endless public corrections of his ludicrous assertions. Within the past few weeks, he had taken to insulting a stream of female journalists when they asked obvious questions at official press events.

Could there perhaps be room for concern about these strange behaviors? A respected physician, Dr. Vin Gupta, had now offered a public statement alleging "age-related cognitive decline."

Also, a respected psychologist, Dr. John Gartner, had recently cited a second point of concern. Headline included, a report by The Daily Beast started off like this:

We Can See Trump Is in Gross Decline: Psychologist

A top psychologist has warned that 79-year-old Donald Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior likely points toward a personality disorder being rapidly worsened by dementia.

“When people develop dementia, they become the worst versions of themselves,” Dr. John Gartner—a therapist, activist, author, and former professor at Johns Hopkins—told Joanna Coles Sunday on the latest episode of The Daily Beast Podcast.

Gartner has previously shared with the show how he sees the aging president’s verbal gaffes, growing confusion, and frequent memory lapses as “clinical signs of dementia,” which have in turn exacerbated what he believes to be Trump’s underlying “malignant narcissism.”

“Whatever personality issues or problems [people with dementia] have, [those issues] begin to deteriorate and they become even more crude, disorganized, aggressive, confused versions of that personality disorder,” Gartner added. 

So the pair of respected medical specialists had now said.

On Monday, the president's pair of statements were so bizarre that a stream of members of MAGA world had rushed to object to his behavior. On this campus, we turned to the giants of MS NOW, waiting to see their analysis of what had now occurred. 

We might as well have tried to catch the wind! At 9 p.m. on Monday night, Rachel Maddow appeared on our giant screen.

Rightly or wrongly, Maddow has long been accepted as Blue America's resident genius. After accepting the throw from The Weeknight's three co-hosts, she started her weekly program in the familiar way:

MADDOW (2/15/25): And thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Really happy to have you here.

If things look a little bit different tonight, if the lighting seems different, if the background looks a little different, that's because I'm joining you from somewhere I almost never am. I'm in Los Angeles right now. I was here in L.A. last night, we had a big event at the Orpheum Theater in downtown L.A. with some of the people that helped us make my new podcast, Burn Order, which is about the decision to incarcerate Japanese-Americans during World War II, and the people who fought that decision, and the thriller, the investigative thriller, at the heart of that.

"I I I I I I I," our young analysts instantly cried. Skillfully, we calmed them down. The full open went like this:

MADDOW (2/15/25): And thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Really happy to have you here.

If things look a little bit different tonight, if the lighting seems different, if the background looks a little different, that's because I'm joining you from somewhere I almost never am. I'm in Los Angeles right now. I was here in L.A. last night, we had a big event at the Orpheum Theater in downtown L.A. with some of the people that helped us make my new podcast, Burn Order, which is about the decision to incarcerate Japanese-Americans during World War II, and the people who fought that decision, and the thriller, the investigative thriller, at the heart of that.

All six episodes of Burn Order are now out, the whole thing is out, everything's posted, free to listen to the whole series on any podcast app.

Here in L. A., there's a lot going on. There is honestly a lot of shock and anger from all sorts of different peoplefrom people connected to show business and notshock and anger about the murder of beloved actor and director Rob Reiner and his wife.

I will say also, a lot of just visceral revulsion about President Trump's ghoulish, really ugly, disgusting comments, sneering at Mr. Reiner's death, almost seeming to celebrate his murder.

In L.A., today is also the day that Donald Trump's deployment of National Guard troops to this city fell apart. The federalized National Guard troops were forced to leave L.A. today because of a federal court order, because what Trump did in deploying them here,  according to a judge, was illegal. We're going to have more to come on both of those stories, and much more, tonight.

But I want to start somewhere tonight that is much colder than it is here. Let's start in Minnesota, specifically about fifteen miles southwest of Minneapolis...

By now, the timestamp said 9:02 p.m. For better or worse, we'd now heard everything Maddow was going to say about that day's stunningly strange behavior by the sitting president.

But wait, the true believer will say. As anyone can see, Maddow had seemed to say that we "were going to have more" about the story in question!

And yes, we agree-that is what she'd seemed to say. But the bizarre new behavior by President Trump was never mentioned again during the rest of the hour.

Maddow never came back to the president's latest disordered behaviorbut she had already said more about that disordered behavior than other hosts on MS NOW were going to say that night.

All across the fruited plain, that latest bizarre behavior was being discussed this day. This latest behavior had been so weird that one MAGA stalwart after another had stepped forward to voice concern and disgust about the president's conduct.

Our question:

Is the sitting president "mentally ill" in some potentially dangerous way? Over the weekend, part of the answer had seemed clear to us as we watched him rattle on about that dreadful snake. But Blue America's journalists and academics have made one thing abundantly clear:

Given the limitations of our species, they seem to be unable to see what is right there before them. Or they're simply unwilling to report what they see, given their blind obedience to tribal Storyline and to corporate dicta.

On this campus, we're inclined to pity the man who is (severely) mentally ill. But why on earth would we do that? Also, what happened at 4 p.m. that day, when Nicolle Wallace and three guests did attempt to discuss the president's bizarre behavior in the wake of that double murder?

Is President Trump a public danger? At 4 p.m. that day, Wallace and her guests attempted to tackle a version of that question.

After that, silence prevailed on MS NOW, right on through to midnight. Last week, they disappeared his remarks about "garbage." Now, as the rest of the nation condemned his remarks, they weirdly all disappeared this!

Is President Trump a public danger? Perhaps by decree from the channel's new suits, the obedient children of MS NOW don't seem to be willing to ask!

Tomorrow: The politics of mercy


127 comments:


  1. "Is the sitting president "mentally ill" in some potentially dangerous way?"

    Hmm. I'm afraid that after singing the praises -- first to the brain-dead presidential candidate, and then to the brain-dead president for two years -- you, members of the idiot-Democrat death-cult, are not allowed to ask this this question.

    Sorry, Bob, you and your comrades are not qualified.

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    1. Quiet. Quiet, piggy.

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    2. "Sorry, Bob, you and your comrades are not qualified."

      Bob doesn't look at children sexually.

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    3. As the nation observed, mentally ill people are potentially most dangerous to their family members, their caretakers, and their therapists (and other hospital staff).

      Why has Somerby not noticed that all of Trump's family members are keeping their distance from him, including Melania and Ivanka who were both present during his first term? I find myself wondering who else is scared of him, on a personal level. What does Trump do during his frequent tirades?

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    4. Musk was described by Wiles as a Ketamine addict. Why did she not mention Trump's drug use (he is said to be using Adderall on a regular basis).

      Combing alcohol and adderall can produce health problems like those suggested by Trump's latest health reports:

      "1. Masking Intoxication: Adderall's stimulant effects can mask the sedating effects of alcohol, making you feel less intoxicated than you actually are. This can lead you to consume excessive amounts of alcohol, dramatically increasing the risk of alcohol poisoning or overdose.
      2. Cardiovascular Strain: Both alcohol and Adderall increase heart rate and blood pressure. When combined, this effect is amplified, placing dangerous strain on your cardiovascular system and raising the risk of heart problems, arrhythmias, or even a heart attack.
      3. Impaired Judgment: Mixing the two substances can severely impair your decision-making and coordination, leading to risky behaviors, accidents (such as driving under the influence), and injuries.
      4. Mental Health Risks: The combination can worsen existing mental health conditions like anxiety or depression and may lead to paranoia, agitation, or even psychotic episodes.
      5. Unpredictable Effects: The interaction between the two drugs in your body can be unpredictable and varies from person to person, making any amount of consumption unsafe. "

      No one around Trump is going to be able to tell him he cannot take whatever he wants. I doubt he is showing restraint in his use of either.

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    5. Oddly, Somerby never discusses Trump's increasing paranoia. That is a psychiatric symptom too, in the DSM, and Trump obviously shows it. Why focus on the personality disorders without talking about the paranoia that arises from drug use AND personality traits, especially when Trump has real opponents and enemies. Look at the way his staff must handle him, yet Somerby only wants to talk about ASPD.

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    6. "I doubt he is showing restraint in his use of either."

      I doubt whether he's taking either and since you provide not a shred of evidence ("he is said to be using both"), sounds like you should too.

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    7. His readily observable behavior is the evidence.

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    8. Initially, you claimed "it is said that". Now it's his behavior that clues you in. Were you bullshitting with the first claim?

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    9. There is a lot of internet chatter about Trump taking Adderall, along with Musk. His behavior suggests he drinks.

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  2. King Orange J Chickenshit declares war on Venezuela. Odds on favorite to win the next invented Peace award from FIFA.

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  3. "If the bottom falls out on President Trump, could he place the nation, even the world, in a state of real danger?"

    He is already placing the nation and the world in a state of real danger. We see what is happening. Republicans are encouraging him, some Republicans are abandoning support for Trump, but mostly he is being allowed to continue his destruction.

    Blue America is continuing its resistance to Trump, as it has since his first day in office. Somerby ignores those efforts, preferring to accuse us on the left of looking away when we are plainly not doing that. We are doing all we can to stop Trump, but we are not the ones in power. Somerby needs to be calling on the right to stop the monster they created.

    Somerby has never discussed the systematic acquisition of the mainstream media by the right. He continues to treat the media as if it were the way it was 20 years ago. But Musk bought Twitter, right wingers own the Washington Post and the New York Times, even the Los Angeles Times (which Somerby has largely ignored because it is on the other coast and he doesn't read it), and is now acquiring the very cable stations Somerby thinks are liberal when they plainly are not. The media has been consumed by the people it used to report on. Now it is all propaganda, but Somerby seems unaware of what to read to hear what we in Blue America are saying. And that is on Somerby, not us.

    Bandy Lee and Mary Trump are old news. Trump has only gotten worse, but Somerby thinks it is important to label him instead of stop him. We need to be calling for a Blue wave at the polls, new politicians who will impeach and remove Trump from office, then correct the damage he has already done. Somerby has never called for that. He seems to want to replace the media instead, as if they might tell him different stories if they were not the same old people.

    It doesn't matter why Trump is doing what he does. What matters is that it is destructive and needs to be stopped. Somerby turns away from that necessity and is unwilling to call for the obvious remedy. Why? Because he is as cowardly as the rest of the right wing idiots who put Trump into office. Somerby did his part, by relentlessly criticizing Harris and Biden and siding with right wingers in the lead up to the 2024 election. He had an alternative but he thought Harris wasn't good enough. So, Somerby helped put a mentally ill man into the presidency. Until he admits that, he has nothing to say to me.

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    1. Like the jib of your jive, but tighten it up. Too verbose for this format.

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    2. How many times have you repeated your point? Three at least. Presenting a point without evidence or argument is what trolls do, and Somerby of course.

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    3. Anonymices 11:56am and 12:08pm, you must be new here.

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  4. Trump’s economic approach is working
    “ FACT: Since September, the private sector has gained 121,000 jobs — while the federal government has shed 168,000 jobs.

    FACT: Since August, the private sector has added 225,000 jobs.

    FACT: Federal employment is now at the lowest level in over a decade.

    FACT: Real wages are on track to rise by 4.2% in the first full year of the Trump Administration — far outpacing inflation.”

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    1. OTOH NPR reports Trump's economic approval hit a new low at 36%, poll finds.

      Can someone explain this contradiction?

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    2. NP - what? Is it still around? And if is, what is its status, official Democrat cult mouthpiece?

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    3. David is gaslighting today. People tend to judge the state of the economy by their own finances. David isn't going to convince people their lives are better if they aren't.

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    4. I haven't checked, but the format of David's quoted stats looks like it comes from a White House release.

      1) Based on the numbers given, that works out to a net reduction in jobs.

      2) Given #1, this implies a gain--albeit a modest one--in August.

      3) Federal employment is at its lowest level? What's the economic effect here?

      4) "...are on track to rise..." meaning they haven't yet risen that much.

      Maybe you buy what they're selling. I don't.

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    5. Also, point 4 claims a 4% rise in "real wages," that is, inflation-adjusted wages. I'd love to see backup for that claim.

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    6. As suspected. David's post is a direct quote from the Rapid Response 47 X account: https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2000928333198987567

      Except he left off the post's final racist bullet point:
      FACT: 100% of the job growth under President Trump has come in the private sector and among native-born Americans, NOT illegals.

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    7. The value of the dollar declined 11% in the first half of this year, the worst weakening of our currency in over 50 years. This is explicitly due to policy laid out by the Trump administration, a purposeful devaluation of the dollar.

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    8. This year the debt increased by a trillion dollars faster than any year in history, excluding during the Covid pandemic.

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    9. "The value of the dollar declined 11% in the first half of this year..."

      That's good, isn't it? The weaker the currency, the stronger the economy. Less importing, more exporting.

      So, what are you unhappy about, Soros-monkey?

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    10. The US economy lost 105,000 jobs in October and added 64,000 jobs in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday. The unemployment rate rose to a four-year high of 4.6% last month.
      The explanation, David, is that gaslighting can only get you that far, and Trump is discovering its limits.
      As obvious from (1), there has been a net reduction in jobs. Inflation is continuing apace. Millions will probably give up/lose their health insurance.
      To sum up: the destruction of the country is picking up speed. Mission accomplished.

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    11. How would we know how many jobs illegals are doing if they are not included in official stats?

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    12. Government and private employment affect the overall jobs figure, but they're opposite in one key respect. Business employees create wealth, some of which goes to support government. Government employees use up wealth -- wealth taken from business -- directly and indirectly.

      In short, adding lots of government employees, as Biden did, can boost the economy temporarily, but ultimately it burdens the economy. Reducing government employees, as Trump is doing, helps save the economy, even, though it boosts unemployment.

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    13. Govt employees create wealth by spending their salaries on the goods and services offered by businesses, and govt agencies create wealth by hiring businesses to carry out the work of the govt directly. The effect of govt on the economy is only temporary if you eliminate govt work, as Trump has done, but that has also eliminated the benefits to individuals and our country when that work is not done. There is an interesting article today in the NY Times about the impact on maintenance of trails in our national parks and wildlands. No trails means no public use, no benefit from those lands, not even conservation. This is a big deal to those of us who have been using them for recreation (hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, staying healthy via exercise). So a public good has been destroyed by Trump by failing to pay the salaries of those maintenance workers who did upkeep on trails.

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    14. President Biden was handed an economic dumpster fire. King Orange J Chickenshit didn't even have the decency and maturity to work on the transition with the incoming administration. Surprising everyone Biden managed to bring the economy in for a soft landing from the disaster he was handed. You can go fuck yourself right about now, Dickhead.

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    15. "Govt employees create wealth by spending their salaries on the goods and services offered by businesses" ...blah.

      Have you, retard, ever heard of the broken window fallacy?

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    16. If a troll (like David) posts misinformation, does it make a sound?

      No, it does not; it is just background noise that speaks to the desperation of a crumbling and flailing movement.

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    17. David is perhaps the retard you are addressing. The idea that govt employees create wealth by spending their salaries does not involve destruction of anything but creation of value in the services provided to our nation. David is the one suggesting that it is a good thing when such employees are fired (a form of destruction).

      If you are claiming that having a govt is inherently destructive, so that the broken window fallacy applies, then you are not thinking straight yourself.

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    18. Yes, retard, the idea that govt employees create wealth by spending their salaries is exactly what the broken window fallacy all about.

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    19. Less government, less time wasted on border security (i.e keeping honest hard-workers out of the economy).

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    20. @2:04 -- you don't seem to understand the broken window parable:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

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    21. "less time wasted on border security"

      I agree. Simple solution: border walls and minefields.


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    22. "Govt employees create wealth by spending their salaries on the goods and services offered by businesses"

      No. But gvt. employees support the creation of wealth by doing things like collecting statistics and preventing crime and pandemics and regulating economic activity(!) via things like agricultural price supports and wildlands management.

      And who knows? It may even be a good thing to feed starving children.

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/12/15/doge-cuts-donald-trump-montana-00681695

      https://www.fsa.usda.gov/resources/price-support

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    23. Get a real job, Soros-monkey, and feed your starving children.

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    24. 12:26. Weakening the dollar is bad for:
      1. Consumers of imported goods.
      2. Travelers out of the US.
      3. US businesses that are supported by foreign investment, which is discouraged by a devalued dollar.
      You didn’t know this, Boris?

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    25. Once again: the weaker the currency, the stronger the economy. Less importing, more exporting.

      What are you so unhappy about, Soros-monkey? "Travelers out of the US?" Learn English, Ahmed.

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    26. 9:29 As in "I am traveling out of the US", dumbass.There are many more buyers of foreign goods in this country than exporters of manufactured goods. The effect of devaluing our currency on foreign investment in US equities is apparently something you don't understand, either. You're hopeless. Do some reading and get back to us, or wallow in your ignorance and don't.

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    27. Hello? Anybody there? Which part of It's Good for the Economy don't you understand, Ahmed?

      Is it the word "economy" that's too complicated for you, Soros-monkey?

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    28. How about "It's good for exporters." dumbass. Because it is not good for people who want to buy things. And it is not good, coupled with tariffs, for inflation. And it is not good for companies on the stock exchange who are the recipients of foreign investments. You can read about this. Jeezus you couldn't be more dim. But just for grins, how much would you like to see the dollar devalued in order to boost this economy. Is 20% enough, or would you think maybe shrink it to 50 cents on the dollar? Let's hear how little you think the dollar should be worth in order to optimize the economy. That should be good for a laugh.

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    29. No, Soros-monkey, Ahmed, it's Good for the Economy. Weak currency is good for the economy, period.

      And your Nazi-flunkey globalist currency-speculator boss making you squeal here is a nice bonus.


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    30. Good for Exporters: Companies that sell internationally benefit from increased competitiveness.

      Bad for Consumers: Shoppers face higher prices on imported items and might see their purchasing power decrease.

      Depends on the Goal: A weak dollar can help rebalance trade by boosting exports, but a strong dollar is generally preferred for controlling import costs and inflation.

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    31. Weak Dollar is Good for the Economy, and Good for Every American.

      ...except for one particular immigrant Nazi-globalist currency-speculator, and some idiot-Democrat perverts who hate everything MADE IN AMERICA.

      Strong dollar is generally preferred by globalist scum, for producing with near-slave labor abroad and then selling with huge markup in the US.

      Oh well.

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    32. So let's hear it , expert. How little do you think the dollar should be worth in order to optimize the economy? Surely you have a number, genius. What would that be? And how has it worked for the ruble over where you are?

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    33. Last time I checked it was the republicans who promoted right to work laws driving labor costs down in the US and republicans who have forever fought raising the minimum wage. And Republican farmers who voted for Trump in order to better abuse their migrant work force. But stick with your narrative, Boris.

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    34. Yeah, stick with the "Boris" thing, retard.

      You got it: this is your best strategy.

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  5. ""I I I I I I I," our young analysts instantly cried."

    Maddow apparently is not allowed to explain why she is broadcasting from Los Angeles, and not allowed to plug her new podcast, the way every single other media pundit does. Somerby finds that narcissistic.

    Meanwhile, Somerby thinks that his constant use of the editorial "we" (also affected by royalty) and his references to fake interns and analysts makes him humble? Not so much. It is often said that when we dislike someone it is because we see our own flaws reflected in them, attempting to reject them in ourselves by persecuting the other. Somerby's career as a standup comedian is way more narcissistic than Maddow's as a news commentator and author.

    By why is Maddow not permitted to use that personal pronoun when referring to herself? Because Somerby thinks she should be more self-effacing, even though no one else is. This is a requirement men place on women more often than on themselves. Women are not allowed to claim the spotlight, even when they have earned it, as Maddow has. She IS highly educated, a well qualified new analyst, and respected by others. That eats at Somerby's craw, just as it did when she was on nightly. Then he complained that she was highly paid, even though she still earned less than male commentators on Fox (especially Tucker Carlson).

    Somerby's obvious jealousy of Maddow is both obvious and unattractive in him. He didn't do the work and has never earned the kind of praise Maddow deserves, but he somehow thinks she shouldn't be praised either.

    Maddow is not everyone's cup of tea. She isn't someone I have watched regularly, but she has earned her place and Somerby never did. It is time for him to stop his attacks on her. He could learn from her to be more direct himself, to own his opinions and state them plainly instead of disguising them in weird language games. He could be better informed and more courageous about supporting our Democratic candidates and fighting Trump. (He cannot do that and feed at the Republican trough however.) Somerby won't do the things necessary to become a Blue heros but would rather be a Quisling or a traitor to Blue America.

    And today, his job appears to be dragging down Maddow again, with his bile and criticism of a real Blue star. He needs to get over whatever he dislikes about Maddow because at least she speaks her mind, tells the truth, and is fighting on our side. Somerby, not so much.

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    1. The whole idea that tighter writing is better comes from print journalism, where space is limited. Writers are given a word or space limit (in column inches). Space is not limited on the internet, but reader time may be. If you have better things to do, go do them and leave the rest of us alone.

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    2. Somerby writes as if he is being paid by the word. It is the most obvious characteristic of his essays -- their abuse of conciseness, their repetitiveness. Hard to blame the commenters for writing at length when Somerby himself is NEVER tight.

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    3. 10:54, well said, do not change. If anything you could have expounded more on Somerby's sexism.

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    4. I am amusing myself by imagining Tolstoy being told to tighten up War and Peace. I initially read that book just so that I could say I had read it, but then discovered that I loved every word. Like Harry Potter among kids, some books are not long enough.

      On the other hand, James Joyce said "Life is too short to finish reading a bad book." You will have to decide what you want to invest in and what to avoid. It isn't fair to ask authors to do that for you.

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    5. Every translated word.

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    6. My father was fired from a job during the McCarthy era because my mother was learning Russian in night school in order to read Russian authors in Russian. I find that translations are satisfying to read.

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    7. "Somerby thinks his constant use of the editorial "we" (also affected by royalty) and his references to fake interns and analysts makes him humble? Not so much.

      If you think Somerby, in referring to his interns and analysts, is trying to convince us he actually has interns and analysts, then you're as thick as a brick.

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    8. It is an affectation but it reveals grandiosity disguised as humor.

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    9. “AnonymousDecember 17, 2025 at 12:58 PM:
      Somerby writes as if he is being paid by the word. It is the most obvious characteristic of his essays -- their abuse of conciseness, their repetitiveness. Hard to blame the commenters for writing at length when Somerby himself is NEVER tight.”
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      This is simply a thing of beauty. Somerby ought to remove the blurb under the blog title: musings on the mainstream 'press corps' and the American discourse” and replace it with the one above. Classic anonymous imperviousness to irony. Perfect.

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    10. "It is an affectation but it reveals grandiosity disguised as humor."

      Your have a tin ear.

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    11. Sez you, but what do you know?

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    12. Claiming irony is what adolescent posers do.

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    13. Anonymous 11:03pm teenagers who are reprimanded for their silliness tend to retaliate by accusing their scolder of the same behavior. That would be you.

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    14. Wow. TDH is so popular, Karl Rove (11:03) is posting here.

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  6. "Maddow never came back to the president's latest disordered behavior—but she had already said more about that disordered behavior than other hosts on MS NOW were going to say that night."

    So, Maddow didn't come back and talk about Somerby's obsession over labeling Trump as mentally ill. What did she come back and talk about? Actual news, I'd wager. The things Somerby never discusses here. Does that make Maddow a bad pundit. I don't think so. Neither does anyone else.

    If Trump said heartless things about the Reiner murders, would that be grounds for his removal as president? Of course not. So why is it important to Somerby that Trump be called out on his mental illness? None of the symptoms that show Trump is ill are impeachable offenses. Stories about snakes show that Trump is bonkers, but they are not the things that endanger our nation. The attacks on Venezuela are doing that, the alliance with Putin, the weakening of our nation's economy, and ceding of our leadership position to other nations. All of those things endanger us, not his inability to pronounce words or his redecoration of the White House.

    Somerby must know this. If he thinks that writing about the nonsense will help us save our nation, he is wrong. We need to be encouraging our elected Congress to do its job and remove Trump for cause, real cause, such as his refusal to follow the law and uphold and defend the Constitution, according to his oath of office.

    Somerby is busily creating distractions. He is distracting from Trump's failures and he is distracting from Maddow's highly effective work as a news analyst. He is distracting from the Epstein files and from Trump's many losses in court over his deportation efforts and persecution of enemies. Somerby is distracting from the real failures of Trump's administration, from the economic downtrends and the right's political losses in special elections, and from Trump's inability to stop any wars anywhere in the world, especially Ukraine and Gaza.

    Somerby is unhelpful, focused on the wrong things, doing nothing to help Blue America defeat Trump and his corruption, and hasn't been worth reading is a decade. It is time for him to retire and stop undermining the actual work being done on the left to deal with the huge problem Trump still poses to our nation.

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  7. When it comes to working at jobs, all of us are "obedient children" as Somerby dismissively calls workers. Note that Somerby hasn't worked at an actual paid job since the early 1980s, when the Vietnam war ended and he could quit teaching. He quit standup comedy too, when his mother left him an inheritance. So what does he know about the kind of expectations that supervisors impose on their employees. Obedience is certainly the starting place for keeping one's job. There are other expectations too, such as doing the job in the manner instructed to meet organizational goals, getting along with others in the workplace, staying safe and not destroying property, being honest and not stealing supplies, treating customers well, dressing appropriately. Mocking an employee for behaving like an employee makes no sense to anyone who has ever held down an actual job.

    Somerby thinks he is morally superior to Maddow and others on TV because they work for a living and do what they are asked to do, instead of engaging in Somerby's childish adolescent rebellion. Of course they want to keep their paychecks and positions. All of us who work want that. That's why DOGE's random firings were so cruel -- no one deserved them.

    But Somerby's sniping at paid employees in the media, the way he singles people out (usually youngish black women but also gay men and Mika/Joe) is irrational and unfair, given that they haven't done anything nearly as bad as Tucker Carlson, Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld, the people who deserve that criticism, as Nicolle Wallace and Lawrence O'Donnell do not.

    Somerby's schtick is tired but never was amusing or fair to anyone. It is just how he works out his own disappointment with his life, and he should do that with a shrink and not via public attacks on those who are working to the specs of their employers, as if they had the independence of a substack writer when they do not.

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    1. Trump works for the American people, in the job of President. There are expectations that he is not meeting. Why doesn't Somerby discuss those, instead of calling him names such as mentally ill? It would be easy to make a list of the job content of president, then go down that list systematically, pointing out how Trump has failed in each role.

      Trump has never held a job either. It shows. But the president is the servant of the people and Trump should be working to serve others, not please himself. That is his biggest failure. In contrast, whether Biden was old or not, he worked very hard to serve the people and accomplished a lot. Somerby has never acknowledged that, because his focus is on personality disorders, not on the job at hand, which has always been to serve the people.

      I only know how well Somerby taught his classes by the offhand things he himself has said in his blog. But it is hard to imagine he did as well as he might have, given his self-focus and narcissism. The best teachers are focused on the kids and constantly seek ways to improve the learning and lives of the kids in their classes.

      Mocking people for doing service-oriented jobs is inconsistent with the focus on labor and working conditions among Blue voters. Somerby again betrays that his only connection to such work is listening to Woody Guthrie songs, but Woody cared about workers. He didn't mock them as "obedient children".

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  8. "GREENVILLE, DELAWARE (The Borowitz Report)—Former President Joe Biden said on Wednesday that “he can’t wait” for Jake Tapper to publish a scathing book about Donald J. Trump’s glaring mental decline.

    “Jake hasn’t announced that he’s working on a book like that, but I’ll bet you anything he is,” Biden said. “He’s the master of this genre.”

    Given Trump’s innumerable episodes of slurred speech, incoherent ramblings, and daytime narcolepsy, Biden predicted that “Jake must be writing one helluva long book.”

    “I was feeling kind of sorry for Trump when I pictured him reading Jake’s book,” the former president said. “But then I remembered that he can’t read.”

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  9. You long posters need to get a fucking job. Jeezoopeet man you fuckers need to learn to stick your points.

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    1. You can skip any comment longer than a few sentences. Others here claim to do that.

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    2. You don’t understand. They can’t defend a single point, so the Gish Gallup is their go-to technique.

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    3. Throw a whole lot of shit against the wall, if someone tries to wash off even a little bit, respond by throwing a bunch more shit against the wall.

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    4. Look how DG divides one point into two separate comments. Is that better than pointing the same idea into one comment? What is accomplished by writing two?

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    5. If you are a paid troll who gets paid for each comment, there is an obvious benefit to using two comments to express a single thought. These sorts of subtleties are how you can identify paid trolls, aside from their content.

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    6. @12:44 - nice projection.

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    7. 12:53. We had a little logic class yesterday. Your comment falls in the ad hominem category.

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    8. Who cares what category it falls in, when it is so obvious that this is what you do, DG? I doubt you have ever made a comment that wasn't an ad hominem. Who needs logic when you have nothing to do here except attacking other commenters?

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    9. I don't think DG's handler is getting his money's worth.

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    10. DG pretends to assume anyone takes him seriously, but internally he is aware that he is just a clown. It is easy to read this in his angry and bitter comments.

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    11. Actually, I rarely attack others, unless provoked. What I generally do is attack their arguments. For example - in this case, the issue is the propensity of an anonymous commenter to write long-winded screeds. I pointed out that this was a rhetorical technique designed to dodge analysis. And that's all I did. It was others who then started calling me names.

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    12. Ha ha ha, nice try. This isn't how other people experience you here.

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    13. DG is a dead-ender, who still believes there is a Republican voter who isn't a bigot, despite the inability to identify one for over a decade.

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    14. Commenters calling me a paid troll and a clown start bawling that I'm mean to them. Go figure.

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    15. But hit and then hide like the brave warriors you are!

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    16. Hit and then hide? I'm still here. So are others. No one hides from you or anyone else here. You can't seriously be suggesting that anyone should spend 24/7 in these comments, in case you want to respond to something they said? You don't come here to discuss Somerby or economics (with David in Cal) or to contribute to ongoing discussions on other topics. You are here solely to disparage other commenters and that is all you do.

      What is this, if not disparagement and attacking others:

      "But hit and then hide like the brave warriors you are!"

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    17. Actually, I've spent a lot of time discussing economics with DiC. For months during the Biden administration, I would post the monthly jobs and inflation reports and explain that Biden had rescued us from a terrible recession inherited from Trump and given us perhaps the best economy ever. And you can check that out, if you want, because I use a nym. But we can't check out anything you say, because you hide behind anonymity.

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    18. And I said I rarely attack others unless provoked. If you call me a troll and a clown, I might call you a scared mouse.

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    19. And BTW, it was just yesterday when I was telling DiC that the recent jobs report was pretty bad.

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    20. I don't find arguing with David to be a redeeming quality.

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    21. I don’t feel the need for redemption, but the commenter said I don’t ever discuss economics with DiC and I simply pointed out that the commenter was dead wrong about that.

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    22. The commenter also said I don’t discuss Somerby, but I do, continuously. Usually, the format will be a commenter says, “Somerby says (or seems to say) X,” and I’ll say, “No, he doesn’t. You’re just making shit up!” And then, instead of backing up what the commenter said, the commenter begins calling me names.

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    23. That isn't "discussing" Somerby but attacking other commenters.

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    24. Not when, in fact, they’re making shit up.

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    25. Pointing out that anonymices are solely focused on attacking Bob is essentially an attack on anonymices… How dare you..

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    26. DG, you have no special knowledge about Somerby.

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  10. Tiedrich agrees that something odd is going on with Wiles:

    "but still — for someone actually inside the White House to shit-talk the people she works with, that’s quite a thing. especially since Dear Leader expects infinite loyalty and obsequious flattery from every single one of his minions.

    so, you’d figure the reaction from the White House would be thermonuclear, and that Susie Wiles would already be the former Chief of Staff — but you’d figure wrong. because what happened next is that every sewer clown simultaneously tweeted statements of undying support for Wiles.

    it’s almost as if they had been ordered to do it.

    I swear, these nitwits can’t even pull off a decent scandal without fucking that shit up. come on, you bozos, you just got insulted to your faces. what about you, Donny? Wiles said you had an ‘alcoholic’s personality.’ she even said you were all over the Epstein files! how did you not throw a shit-fit over that?

    look at this. not only did Donny laugh off Wiles’ remarks, he said he agreed with them.

    Trump even admitted to having an “alcoholic personality,” which some around the president considered among Wiles’ most incendiary remarks because of the president’s long and well-known aversion to alcohol and his brother’s struggle with alcoholism.

    “I’m fortunate I’m not a drinker,” Trump told the New York Post.

    what the fuck is going on? did Putin give Susie Wiles a copy of the pee-tape to use as job insurance?

    it’s not a silly question — because it seems that Chatty Suzie has been working with Russian oligarchs for since like forever. look at this, from the Byline Times, published a year ago.

    Trump’s newly appointed Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, brings a complex political profile, with ties to Russian oligarchs and Chinese surveillance firms.

    Before joining Trump’s 2024 campaign, Wiles was a co-chair at a firm that lobbied for sanctioned individuals and companies. A lobbyist who recommended Wiles to lead US President-Elect Donald Trump’s campaign represented a Russian-born oligarch connected to the Russian President Vladimir Putin and a state-owned oil corporation Rosneft.

    Wiles’ ex-husband has ties to a Kremlin-linked lobbyist known for attending the 2016 Trump Tower meeting, where “dirt” on Clinton was offered on the Russian Government’s behalf. Wiles’ daughter failed the White House background check.

    that’s all pretty convenient. what does Susie know, and why is her job being protected? and who is she really working for? as always with All Things Donny, there are a thousand questions, and zero satisfying answers."

    This supports my suggestion that the purpose of Wiles interview was to attract attention to an insider's statement that Trump is innocent of any Epstein-related crimes, ahead of the release deadline for the Epstein files.

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  11. Seems like if Bob were to review his own musings in regards to Trump's mental disorders, he would arrive at the conclusion that Trump has a disordered personality, but that he's not mentally ill. Dementia, which is clearly in evidence, is amplifying Trump's malignant personality. In the past, Trump was able to manage it though. This is no longer the case.
    I've listened to Dr. Gartner on the Daily Beast podcast and other podcasts. He makes a compelling case for someone who has not been able to examine Trump personally. Just an eye test, though, is sufficient to say that there's something even more wrong with Trump than in the past. Let's hope that Susie Wiles' interview spurs some reckoning.

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    1. As yourself why Wiles has crawled out from under her rock to make the pronouncements she's made. She's still the TV Prop-in-Chief's CoS.

      Bottom line is that Stephen Miller and Russell Vought - the real Commanders in Chief - don't care what the voting public think of their shill since there's no way of stopping them so far.

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    2. Maybe Miller and Vought think that they will accomplish their goals before Trump kicks the bucket. Maybe they just think that while they are in power, they'll be able do dispense with the elections altogether.

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  12. Since Trump first came on the scene, I have not believed that he avoids alcohol. He behaves like someone who drinks and that would account for a lot of his "dementia" symptoms. He says he doesn't drink because of his brother's alcoholism, but that makes no sense. Why pick that trait to control when he might have learned other lessons by comparison to his brothers and father too? The many descriptions of Trump's behavior suggest an abusive drunk with anger issues. So, why has everyone been so gullible about believing this claim when Trump lies about everything?

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  13. Trump's cruelty towards the Reiners, his cruelty towards various groups of Americans, his penchant for violence against Americans, his penchant for committing violence around the world, none of that his new, none of that is due to his mental decline; Trump has always been this cruel, always been this incompetent, always been this corrupt, Trump has always been a criminal.

    To claim otherwise, is a clear indication that such a claimant is pushing an agenda, running a con.

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  14. Peter Greene (Curmudgucation) today offers an excellent article about parental responsibility when something goes wrong for their children:

    https://curmudgucation.substack.com/p/parental-roll-of-the-dice

    It applies to the Reiners but also to Trump. Somerby wants Trump to be mentally ill in order to maintain his views about who is responsible for what, when it comes to human behavior. But it doesn't work the way Somerby thinks. Green also explores how the beliefs of parents about the causes of child behavior relates to political views and especially the need to control both children and the environment they grow up in. Ultimately there is so little that can be controlled while the attempt to control others produces bad results for everyone. Greene gives us a lot to think about when we consider what is wrong with Trump.

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    1. Trump was raised by horrible parents.

      America runs on cycles of generational wealth and generational abuse and trauma.

      There is no such thing as free will; we live in a society that produces and reproduces an excess of terrible parents.

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    2. Trump has siblings who turned out fine. They all had the same parents. @1:58, please read what Greene says. You have a fixed idea that parents cause trauma. This ignores the influences beyond control and the situations where there is no such abuse and yet children grow up with difficulties. This is more complicated than you are willing to admit.

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  15. Yesterday Bob said it is "bred in the bone" but a commenter destroyed that notion, so today he trots out the dementia spin.

    Bob is not concerned about making coherent, credible arguments; Bob is looking to gain something from hurting "Blue America", whether it is a monetary or emotional benefit, or both, who is to say.

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  16. Guiducci photographed Wiles, Vance and others for the Vanity Fair article:

    "Eventually, Wiles’s executive assistant informed us that we would not be allowed to photograph either the 'Presidential Walk of Fame' or the Rose Garden, as we’d asked," Guiducci wrote. “'Those are very special to the president,' she said. 'They’re his spaces.'"

    "Actually, I wanted to remind her, they’re not," he added." [Raw Story]

    Not only does Trump believe the White House is his, not the people's, but his staff support him in that delusion. That's why Trump is not the problem but his enablers and cronies and supporters and staff are all part of the same problem. Getting rid of Trump might be a start but those around him need to change as well.

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    1. Anonymouse 2:50pm, what office or agency could VF contact in order to gain access to the people’s Presidential Walk of Fame and the people’s WH Rose Garden?

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  17. "On this campus, we're inclined to pity the man who is (severely) mentally ill. "

    Meanwhile, as Maddow described, those in Los Angeles who are friends of the Reiners are shocked by the actions of their mentally ill son, Nick. Somerby has no words left to discuss the problems that arise when a man is severely mentally ill to the point of committing such an act. And no words of condolence for the family and friends, including the other Reiner children.

    Somerby wants to call Trump severely mentally ill, but does his illness compare to that of Reiner's son? On what basis does Somerby call Trump severely ill? Trump appears to have a coherent world view. He dresses himself. He makes a kind of sense when he talks, even if his speech is largely irrelevant and inappropriate to the context. He is well groomed. What are the criteria for saying mental illness is severe and not just a bizarre belief system? Can a criminal who thinks only of his own self and financial interests be called mentally ill at all, much less severely so? Somerby has no idea. That's because he isn't interested in mental illness or Trump but only in using the idea of mental illness. Why?

    The problem is that we don't know why Somerby keeps returning to this topic in the way he does, especially when it is not being discussed by the media (as Somerby complains). I have thought that Somerby is working out his own problems here, but then he always returns to excoriating Blue America. Today he doesn't do that, except for side-swiping attacks on Maddow and Nicole Wallace on MSNOW. However, Somerby has upped his game to calling Trump severely mentally ill without managing to say anything more than that Trump is rambling about stupid stuff, as he has done for decades. The terms severely mentally ill surely belong to Reiner's son. And Somerby has not a word to spare in condolences to the family and friends of those who were actually killed by a dangerous person this week. That omission seems especiallty important to me when Somerby is saying he pities Trump.

    Somerby's response to this whole situation seems abnormal to me, off-kilter, lacking in compassion, ignoring his own socially appropriate words of comfort to victims, off-base in the hostility directed at Maddow and Wallace, but more strangely, ignoring what the words "severely mentally ill" really mean in modern experience where deranged men shoot others not tell stories about snakes.

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  18. At the Christmas tree lighting ceremony at the White House, Trump had to read the countdown from 5 to 1 off notes he held in his hand, never looking up from them, so that he would get the numbers in the right order. That suggests dementia, not insanity. Repeating numbers backward is part of that Cognitive test he brags about acing, yet he apparently couldn't do it without having it written out for him.

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  19. People just don't like liberals or liberalism. After DEI, Russiagate and Obama not meaningfully coming through with hope and change, people are done with them. As a movement, it just didn't work out.

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    1. Obama is not running again.

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    2. 6:36. I would say nice try but it was a half assed effort. Obama left office with a favorability rating of 59%, second only to Clinton (66%), since the Eisenhower years. After Trump's first term, his number was 31% and it is heading down to that number again. People do not like Trump and his zombie enablers in congress will be getting back their report card in November 2026. They are not well liked for good reason.

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    3. Obama left office with a favorability rating of 59% c/w Trump’s 31% the year he left office, and Trump is again heading in the direction of 31%. People do not like Trump and his enablers and will give them their report card in November 2026.

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    4. The redundant comments are because the first one did not show up on my screen initially.

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    5. You may see other reasons behind their historic unpopularity and world-changing political defeats. I feel like Obama not meaningfully coming through with hope and change deeply affected voters over the last 16 years. Trigger warning: this may be something you are not ready to hear if you are a highly partisan zealot who sees politics only in black and white terms.

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    6. Hahaha 7:16. Please someone get him a mirror. 59% of the public c/w 31%. Trouble with the math? AI can tutor you on the subject.

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    7. So Trump has put new plaques under the presidential photos NJ in the White House denigrating Obama and Biden. Maybe 7:16 gets his information from a demented old codger whose chief of staff is in the process of distancing herself from.

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    8. 59% favorability (not approval) among U.S. adults (not voters, not even citizens, necessarily) means exactly nothing.

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    9. If Democrats wanted to be popular with Republican voters, they'd be raping pre-teens.

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    10. Speaking of ratings, here are the latest Trump approval poll numbers.

      Republicans: 80%
      People who aren't sexually attracted to children: 0%.

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