ONE PART OF WHAT REMAINS: "Effeminate, gay," the children cried!

THURSDAY, MAY 28, 2026

You're already in a failed state: As we've suggested in the past, the historical record suggests a conclusion:   Sexuality has always been challenging. Sexuality has always been challengingwithin the male sex drive. 

Forget the news reports you read every day about the misconduct of fellows in charge. European literature, let it be said, starts with a story about the behavior which may emerge from the bit of imperfect human wiring to which we've already alluded.   

King Agamemnon, lord of men, has kidnapped the daughter of a priest to Apollo. He's employing her in the standard waysand when her father comes to beg for her return, the lord of men is of course offended.

Professor Fagles presents the translation:    

And all ranks of Achaeans cried out their assent:
"Respect the priest, accept the shining ransom!"
But it brought no joy to the heart of Agamemnon.
The king dismissed the priest with a brutal order
ringing in his ears: "Never again, old man,
let me catch sight of you by the hollow ships!

Not loitering now, not slinking back tomorrow.
The staff and the wreaths of god will never save you then.
The girl? I won't give up the girl. Long before that,
old age will overtake her in my house, in Argos,
far from her fatherland. slaving back and forth
at the loom, forced to share my bed!
                                                              Now go,
don't tempt my wrath, and you may depart alive." 

Right there, at the dawn of the west, he refused to give up the girl! Slaving back and forth at the loom, the girl would also be forced to share the conqueror's bed!

"The old man was terrified," the war poem now says. "He obeyed the order, turning, trailing away in silence down the shore where the battle lines of breakers crash and drag."

To his credit, Agamemnon doesn't try to disguise the shape of his motives. But this is where western literature begins, with the Argive forces under this lord of men ten years into a brutal campaign in response to an earlier sexual insultin response to the (willing) flight of Helen from Greece to Troy, where she now lives as the wife of feckless Paris, son of that city's King Priam.    

That's where the culture begins! Centuries later, the children routinely become upset when related versions of "masculinity" are perhaps referred to as "toxic." 

In modern times, the process of democratization has made it easy for boys and girls of this type to find each other and join forces as a societal subgroupas a tribe. Before, it would have been very hard. Today, such outreach and bonding come easy.

It's in that context that the latest essay by Helen Lewis has appeared in the Atlantic. In her lengthy essay, Lewis is describing the world Where The Podcasters Arebut also the children of Fox:  

The Men Who Want Women to Be Quiet
A virulent form of misogyny has become the single most important force holding together the American right.  

There you see the dual headline which sits atop her lengthy piece. As Lewis starts, she says she'll be describing a movement which is no longer fringea movement which "is sometimes called 'masculinism.' ”

Masculinism? As an inkling of where democratization has taken us, she offers this example, among many others, of the way the human project may now take form if you go Where The Podcasters Are:

The Men Who Want Women to Be Quie

[...] 

The male podcasters who got behind Trump in 2024 now host outright misogynists: Consider the career of the Christian debater Andrew Wilson, who in January appeared on arguably the most popular podcast in America, The Joe Rogan Experience—the manosphere-influencer equivalent of singing the national anthem at the Super Bowl.

Wilson, who appeared on Rogan’s show to promote his online debating courses, originally became famous for appearing repeatedly on Whatever, a dating podcast with 4.6 million YouTube subscribers.

In one episode, Wilson told a female fellow guest that she was too stupid to understand him, so she raised the fact that Wilson’s wife, Rachel, has children with three different men. He went thermonuclear. “You lick snizz,” he barked. “You’re a fucking dyke. Don’t talk shit about my wife, you stupid bitch.” He added, “I’m better than you.” It was an extraordinary display of uncontrolled aggression. In another clip, he mocked a female guest for being unable to open a pickle jar. She handed it to him, and he failed too. “Your hand greased the whole top of it,” he complained. Wilson has one of the most unpleasant internet personas I’ve ever encountered, and I’ve been on Bluesky. (He did not reply to my request for an interview, which was a relief.)  

As with Agamemnon's fury, so it may sometimes go with these modern lords of men. Or you could have watched yesterday's edition of The Five, the most-watched "cable news" program within our modern failed state.   

Sexuality has always been challenging! For the children the Fox News Channel sends out on the air each day, the boundaries of masculinity will be defended in the soul-draining ways the children displayed on yesterday's pitiful program.  

Where did Mediaite go to come up with Willa Pope Robbins? Wherever they went, they need to go there looking for others like her. 

As Robbins reports today, James Talarico is running for the Senate in Texas, and the children on our most-watched "news" program now hurried to call him gay.   

Robbins' report starts like this:

Jesse Watters Mocks James Talarico’s ‘Totally Not Fake Girlfriend’: ‘Does She Exist?’

Fox News host Jesse Watters mocked Texas Senate candidate James Talarico’s love life on Wednesday, heavily implying that the state senator is lying about having a girlfriend by asking, “Does she even exist?”

The host made his remarks on The Five during a segment on Talarico in light of Tuesday night’s primary that saw Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton defeat Senator John Cornyn (R). The scandal-ridden Paxton had snagged President Donald Trump’s unexpected endorsement last week, a move that triggered widespread backlash from many within his party. Paxton is now set to face Talarico in November, and both have already gone on the offensive.

Watters went on an extended rant against Talarico, calling him “effeminate” and mocking his attempts to beat back allegations of being a vegan. He then turned to the candidate’s dating life, noting a recent interview Talarico gave in which he discussed his partner and his choice to keep her identity private.  

That's the way Robbins' report began. She provides videotape of some of what occurred, along with an extended (though incomplete) transcript.  

At this point, we'll take a guess:

We'll guess that Robbins' frankness may have been curtailed by editorial standards at Mediaite. Presumably by editorial dictum, the site doesn't ever report the astounding conduct which occurs on the Gutfeld! program.

That includes the ludicrous imitation of a news discussion which we ourselves surveyed in yesterday's report.  

(Just a guess! The editors have decreed that Gutfeld! is a comedy show, and that its various players are therefore "performing artists." Stating the obvious, Gutfeld! is not a comedy show, but we'll guess that some such editorial judgment explains the program's total absence from the posts at Mediaite.)   

At any rate, sure enough! With the battle lines finally drawnit will be Talarico versus PaxtonThe Five's gay-baiting got started.  

Inevitably, the ludicrous Jesse Watters took the lead, with Dana Perinoshe's supposed to be the sane onepassive-aggressively helping him along. Here's some of what was said:

WATTERS (5/27/26): Jesse, I know you are, you are just ready to go on Talarico, so take it away.

WATTERS: Correction, it's "Tala-Freako." They nominated someone more effeminate than Beto, and I can't wait for this race to get under way. Did you know that he looks prepubescent?   

[...]

WATTERS: He’s also thirty-seven and not married. 

PERINO: [Laughs]

WATTERS: Let’s get into this. 

He says, just recently, that he has a girlfriend. And they have been together for four years. And he called her his best friend, and she was his rock. And he’s not revealing her identity, because he wants to respect her privacy and keep her safe during the campaign.

GUTFELD: Does she live in Canada? 

WATTERS: She lives– 

[LAUGHTER]

WATTERS: Now, if the campaign has only been going on for less than a year, and they have been dating for four years, why haven’t we ever seen this woman before? Basically, what I’m saying is, Does she exist? 

We’re going to find out because, if he wins, are they going to have a coming out party? Or is she still going to stay the secret girlfriend? And is this totally not-fake girlfriend also a vegan? This race–  

This is a great race to cover.

This is a great race to cover! On our nation's most-watched such show, the silly child seemed to think that he was "covering" the Texas race by launching this examination.

He's even more effeminate than Beto was, the silly child had said. Greg Gutfeld now tried to throw to lone Democrat Harold Ford:

GUTFELD (continuing directly): So Harold, I’m willing to bet that Jesse’s strategy of attack will help Talarico win, because none of the things he says has any bearing–like, that’s what the Democrats want. Is–

WATTERS: Yes, a gay vegan is definitely going to win in Texas! Not gay and not vegan, for the record. 

In that way, Watters pretended to try to establish the fact that Talarico isn't gay. He did so after signaling to millions of viewers that they should start baiting the candidate in precisely that way. 

Needless to say, the dissection of this "effeminate," "not gay" man didn't end there. 

Eventually, Kennedy spotted her chance to play. Based on her endless performances, the former VJ was made by God for precisely this line of work. 

Kennedy seems to be smarter than the others, but she rarely lets that hold her back. When the cup was passed to her, the wine spilled down her front:  

PERINO: Cornyn said last night that he's gonna, he's like, "I'm on board. I'll get behind Paxton."

FORD: We'll see.

KENNEDY: I think James Talarico has heard, "I'll get behind it" before.

WATTERS: [Laughter]  

For those who are lucky enough not to know, that's a gay joke too. As she continued, Kennedy provided such news analysis as this: 

KENNEDY: He looks prepubescent. He looks like such a beta male... 

PERINO: They'll say, they'll say, "But he's a seminarian! How dare you not support him?"

KENNEDY: He put the semen in seminarian! 

WATTERS: [Laughter]

When this is the shape of a nation's news culture, that nation isn't "in decline." It has already become a failed state.

As The Five went off the air, Watters gay-baited one last time. Two hours later, the baiting continued on Jesse Watters Primetime, our second most-watched "cable news" program:

Benny Johnson was brought on the air to provide the comedy stylings about how low in testosterone (how "low T") the effeminate "Tala-Freako" is.

Johnson is a classic post-democratization figure. His summation for the simpering Watters went exactly like this:

JOHNSON (5/27/26): So once again, the reason why Democrats are failing is they've given up on masculinity. They've given up on testosterone. They've given up entirely for effeminate, astrogenetic, catty and totally embarrassing candidates like Beto O'Rourke and "Beta" here.

We don't know what "astrogenetic" means in this context (if anything). But there you see a form of modern "masculinism" being robustly expressed.

Earlier, Jonson had offered this:

JOHNSON: Clearly, Michelle Obama has more testosterone than Talarico. James Talarico is a guy who could be played by Eliot Page in a new Christopher Nolan move, or a Subaru ad.

This plays on a standard Gutfeld! hook, in which Michelle Obama is said to secretly be a man while her husband is said to be secretly gay. Eliot Page was once the very popular Ellen Page, so you can see where that comes in.

This is who and what these fellow citizens are. You won't learn about the things they say and do in the timorous New York Times (or on MS NOW), but this is the relentless shape of their reactions and of their discourse. 

Johnson is the sort of person who never would have emerged before the democratization came into our lives. The leading authority on his life offers this instant thumbnail

Benny Johnson (columnist)

Benny Johnson (born May 27, 1987) is an American right-wing political commentator and YouTuber. He has contributed to several conservative media outlets such as Breitbart News, TheBlaze, National Review, and The Daily Caller.

Johnson was previously employed with BuzzFeed but was fired in 2014 due to several instances of plagiarism, where he used text from sources such as Yahoo Answers and Wikipedia without giving due credit.

Johnson has also worked for Turning Point USA and hosted for Newsmax TV.

How does a fellow like that gain prominence? Later, we're told about the way the discourse currently works:

Johnson runs three YouTube channels: "Benny Johnson," "Benny On The Block" and "Benny Brews." Johnson also hosts a podcast called The Benny Show. His main YouTube channel, titled "Benny Johnson," has amassed 6.01 million subscribers and 4 billion views as of September 2025.

Three YouTube channels, with a podcast to boot! In such ways, the democratization has given life to modern-day "masculinism." 

Lewis describes the movement in her essay for the Atlantic. We'll return to her findings tomorrow, but our literary culture began long ago on the plains outside Troy.

It all began on the plains outside Troy. With Agamemnon's fury concerning "the girl," it all began in this same general way.

Tomorrow: Able to find each other


78 comments:

  1. Quaker in a BasementMay 28, 2026 at 11:41 AM

    Paxton engineered a plea deal to let a convicted child rapist off with one day in prison.

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    1. Surely Watters mentioned that..?

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  2. No Kings on June 14th to counter program the garish UFC fight on WH grounds on demented Shitler's 80th birthday.

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    1. I find the planned UFC fight bizarre. What does it have to do with our 250th anniversary? What is it's justification?

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    2. Why are you asking this question here, DiC? It’s what your party has become.

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    3. What the fuck is wrong with you, dickhead? King Chickenshit is doing this to honor King Chickenshit! Bizarre?
      You fucking did this to us.

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    4. What do you think it has to do with this country’s 250th birthday? I think it has nothing to do with it and everything to do with the crowd that finds Ted Nugent and Kid Rock to be viable entertainment choices. You know, the base. Also known as the deplorables. You don’t even recognize your clan. You know, the ones with the swastikas and the “They will not replace us” placards.

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    5. @5:44 - are you not aware that the Dem candidate in Maine literally has a Nazi deaths head tattoo?

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    6. Apologized and removed, what's your excuse Nazi David?

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    7. Take a good look at your fucking secretary of defense dickface

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  3. So just i can gauge the political acumen of those on this site, is there anyone here who really believes that Talarico has any chance of winning in Texas?

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    1. I met someone at a luncheon last week who thought he had a chance. I didn't say anything.

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    2. 12:15, fuck no, have you ever listened to those maggot imbeciles in Texas?

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    3. Talarico will appeal to Hispanics with family values and to Democrats who are traditional liberals and progressives. The extremism of Paxton may repel centrists, especially after Trump's failures, so I think Talarico does have a chance.

      The best evidence of Talarico's viability is the major effort the right is launching to defeat him. They are scared of him.

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    4. Since I am not a Texan , I will check the most recent polling data. I suggest you do so as well.

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  4. Bob's term "failed state" is overly dramatic. The government is not the whole state. The media is not the whole government. One minor TV show is not the whole media.

    In the US, most citizens are living normal, comfortable lives. That's not the case for many other countries -- countries where a lousy TV show is not their biggest problem.

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    1. It's funny how when we are deciding who will control the government and will make the decisions affecting all our lives, it's a matter of life and death to dickheads who is chosen. But when it is observed that the government is the hands of a raving lunatic, dickhead will nonchalantly comment how unimportant that is.

      Why don't you go take a flying fuck, dickface.

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    2. Two things, DiC. One, Somerby didn’t say that Gutfeld was our biggest problem.

      Two, what I think you can take away from the rhetoric of Watters and Gutfeld coupled with the success of a criminal and serial adulterer like Paxton (impeached by his own party) is an insight into today’s Republican Party, your party, where a single minded focus on toxic, childish insults about a candidate’s “masculinity” apparently works for your party. (also, you asked above why is Trump throwing UFC event at the White House? It’s all about toxic masculinity and appealing to that crowd of morons. )
      And that’s no way to run a country.

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    3. “ normal, comfortable lives.”

      Really?

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    4. Compared to the rest of history, people are living abnormally comfortable lives. Even poor people live lives of extravagant comfort compared to the rest of history. Eg. even the poor today are wearing clothes and shoes that the most powerful Kings and Queens could have only dreamed of wearing 500 years ago.

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    5. In the US, most citizens are living normal, comfortable lives.
      How do you know that, David?

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    6. I agree that the term "failed state" used by Somerby is inappropriate.

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    7. “ Compared to the rest of history, people are living abnormally comfortable lives.”

      That must be why “inflation” wasn’t a big issue in 2024.

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    8. “ even the poor today are wearing clothes and shoes…”

      So no big deal if they can’t afford health care.

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    9. A comparison to the rest of history is inappropriate. We should be comparing our current lives to other nations. We all have been told that we are way worse than other wealthy democratic nations and way better than those countries without our resources and with more problems than we have.

      Only 11% of Americans have visited more than 10 foreign countries, so most people today have no idea how others live around the world. Wearing shoes and clothes is a meaningless standard.

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    10. Americans are less comfortable than people in other peer nations?

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    12. Americans are less comfortable than people in other peer nations?
      Without a doubt, most Americans experience a much higher level of anxiety and insecurity than their peers in highly-developed countries.

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    13. I was making an argument about material comfort, not anxiety or insecurity

      What are Americans anxious and insecure about? I hope you're not talking about economic anxiety.

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    14. Many people cannot afford basic healthcare.

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    15. Hard to call it “comfort” when so many are living on credit card debt, one missed payment away from having their home or their possessions confiscated.

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    16. Your possessions or home are not confiscated if you miss a credit card payment.

      Let me know when you get back to planet Earth.

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    17. If you miss payments on your home, your car, etc, they are absolutely repossessed. Many people pay these with credit cards, or other methods. If their credit card is cancelled, or their bank account runs dry paying credit card bills (for example), guess what? Why are you arguing this?

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    18. Comfortable, as in the most literal sense of the word? For example, I am sitting in a comfortable chair now, so at the moment I am leading a comfortable life.
      I am not sure what point you're trying to make? That we have manufacturing knowhow and capacity to build comfortable things? That's a paper-thin view on "comfortable".
      What anxieties? Oh, say, I get laid off tomorrow. Immediately, I will have to start shelling out $1500/month or more for health insurance. Most civilized countries have that handled much better that we do.

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    19. It takes longer than one month, but your car and your home can and will be repossessed for failure to pay your debt.

      If you fail to pay your credit card debt, the failures go on your credit rating. That will limit your ability to rent an apartment, obtain new credit when your existing cards are cancelled for non-payment, get a job (since a credit check is part of most hiring), or buy even a used car. Protecting your credit rating is key to paying lower rates for housing and other services. You get charged more if suppliers suspect you will not pay your bill.

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    20. Tucker Carlson is urging his followers to stop paying their credit card bills. I see that as exploiting the ignorance of the mostly young men who watch him. Anyone with life experience will know that this is a foolish idea. Young men without much to lose can perhaps always go back and live with parents, but it bothers me that a wealthy man like Carlson doesn't respect the very different circumstances of the men in his audience.

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    21. Maybe Carlson is trying to whip up more right wing discontent? He may be hoping for a revolution as these ignorant young men are tossed onto the street with few options and no way to recover their financial reputations, livelihood, much less a relationship. Then we can expect more mass shootings, because that is what angry, desperate young men do.

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    22. College grads and high school students in Japan are given jobs by major corporations when they finish school, so they have a smooth transition without having to worry about finding work. In the USA, grads are having major problems finding work when AI is screening applications. Layoffs and firing for no reason are compounding difficulties as companies try to transition to AI doing jobs. We have been losing not gaining jobs under Trump. That isn't the same in other countries.

      In contrast: "New grads secure jobs in Scandinavia by utilizing university career portals, leveraging professional networking on LinkedIn, and tapping into public employment services like Sweden's Arbetsförmedlingen or Norway's Arbeidsplassen. Because a large portion of the job market relies on personal connections, building a local network through career fairs is highly effective."

      It used to be that career centers at colleges did that too, but fewer students are going to colleges and the decreases in funding are limiting career center activities on most campuses in the USA. That ads to student and young worker anxiety.

      Here in CO, the price of housing has exploded and most young people must share in order to find an affordable place to live in Denver and other larger cities. It is similar in the places where there tend to be more jobs, especially in tech fields. Living with other young people may be more stressful than fun and it limits starting a relationship or family. This is what it means when there is talk about a housing crisis. Too many young people are still living with parents, which is stressful for all concerned.

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    23. You are saying that Americans experience economic anxiousness on a meaningful scale, so much so that it could motivate them politically?

      Your argument is economic anxiousness is a pervasive and meaningful part of the American people's lives?

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    24. Ilya, I made the point originally that yes, we are, even the most poor among us, materially comfortable.

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    26. Waylon: I made a point that this definition of "comfort" is so paper-thin as to be meaningless. Although, if you look up "food insecurity in the US", AI overview will tell you that about 13.7% of households experience some level of food insecurity.

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    27. Thank you, @1:14. Yes, I think it's about masculinity.

      I would object to the term "toxic". Throwing in that adjective without evidence is like automatically throwing in the word "dirty" before some minority group.

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    28. Go take a flying fuck, dickhead. Go play with your Nazi friends.

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  5. Sexuality is no more challenging for men than for women. This idea that it is challenging has been used as both an excuse for sexual misbehavior and a justification for male privilege. As long as Somerby thinks like this, he is not going to understand "sexual politics."

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  6. A nice Trump achievement for DC and for America. Columbus Circle at Union Station is completely restored
    https://x.com/reaganreese_/status/2059993271523242458?
    This may not be the biggest thing in the world, but it's something past Presidents and Mayors were never able to do.

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    1. Why must you always lick Trump’s ass, DiC?

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    2. Sure dickhead, no other person ever could have cleaned the statues by giving our corrupt no bid contracts to his buddies.

      Fuck you straight to fucking hell.

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    3. David, it's the corruption, (among other things), you stupid Nazi.

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  7. "...European literature, let it be said, starts with a story about the behavior which may emerge from the bit of imperfect human wiring to which we've already alluded."

    European literature, especially English literature starts with Beowulf not Homer. It is significant that Somerby omits the role of the Greek Gods in the story Homer tells. Perhaps he does that because we in the USA do not believe in those Gods any more, but they are nevertheless important as motivators of the behavior that occurs. THAT, not men's desires, are the reasons for what happens to women.

    Here is the story of the start of the Trojan War, which Somerby has never described here:

    "Because of the intervention, the gods start the war between Trojans and Achaeans and the reason of the war leads them to take sides. Before the start of the war, the gods hold a wedding feast for the honor of Thetis and
    Peleus, the parents of Achilles and the goddess Eris is not invited to wedding. Eris, in revenge, throws a golden apple inscribed "for the fairest" into the banquet hall, knowing it will cause trouble. All the goddesses claim it for themselves and the goddesses Aphrodite, Hera and Athena ask Zeus to make the final decision but Zeus decides that the task should be delegated to a mortal, Paris who is one of the princes of Troy and a son of Priam. Each of the three goddesses offers Paris a bribe so that he will name her the fairest: Hera promises him a large kingdom; to make him lord of Europe and Asia, Athena promises him a military glory and rampage all over Greece, Aphrodite promises him to give the most beautiful woman in the world, Helen, the wife of Menelaus, who is the king of Sparta. Paris visits
    Menelaus in Sparta and falls in love with Helen, taking her back to Troy with him, thus the war starts between Trojans and Achaeans."

    By omitting this part of the Iliad in which female gods have agency, Somerby limits his consideration to what men do in a fight they did not themselves start. Further, Somerby has mused here about Helen's regrets about going with Paris, when she was at the mercy of the gods and did not make that choice herself. The neglect of the meddling by the gods that Somerby indulges here makes analysis of what is happening on the human level impossible, so flawed that it can have no relevance, especially to modern behavior.

    Somerby would do better to learn some psychology. There is a large literature on relationships and behavior that he seems largely unaware of. That makes him underqualified to express opinions here, especially given that he has obviously read nothing in the large literature that includes feminist philosophers and social scientists.

    He is just going to embarrass himself with his sexist garbage. It has already started with this return to "sacred Homer" who was himself not anything close to an expert on men or women's behavior. He may not even have existed as a historical person, according to experts.

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    1. "European literature . . . starts with Beowulf not Homer."

      The Iliad was composed 1500 or so years before Beowulf was written.

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    2. The Iliad is not part of English literature, having been written by Greeks in Greek. Beowulf was written in Old English which makes it English literature.

      Why does this matter? We who are descended from English tradition never believed in the Greek gods or any such pantheon of Gods. We instead descended from druidic and nature-based religious traditions with female deities and priests. Somerby is attempting to foist patriarchal attitudes and literature onto a people who did not originate such male dominated culture until much later, after conversion to Christianity and elimination of women's participation via witch-hunts and inquisitions. Women had power in British and Western European states well into Medieval times, which is much later than Homer. The subjugation of women is far from the natural occurrence Somerby wishes to portray but is a relatively recent phenomenon. When men don't bother taking Women's Studies courses in college, they persist in believing self-serving nonsense that is factually incorrect. Somerby doesn't even read The Iliad competently, given that he ignores the meddling of the Gods into human affairs.

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    3. "He is just going to embarrass himself with his sexist garbage."

      If I'm reading your comment correctly, Somerby's "sexist garbage" is his failure to tell us that the whole Trojan War was caused by the petty intrigues and jealosies of female gods?

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    4. "Femina: A New History of the Middle Ages, Through the Women Written Out of It – A Cundill Prize Longlisted Social History of Medieval Europe Kindle Edition
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      Oxford and BBC historian Janina Ramirez has uncovered countless influential women’s names struck out of historical records, with the word FEMINA annotated beside them. As gatekeepers of the past ordered books to be burned, artworks to be destroyed, and new versions of myths, legends and historical documents to be produced, our view of history has been manipulated.

      Only now, through a careful examination of the artifacts, writings and possessions they left behind, are the influential and multifaceted lives of women emerging. Femina goes beyond the official records to uncover the true impact of women, such as:
      Jadwiga, the only female king in Europe
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      Loftus Princess, whose existence gives us clues about the beginnings of Christianity in England"

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    5. "The Iliad is not part of English literature, having been written by Greeks in Greek. Beowulf was written in Old English which makes it English literature."

      We all know this, of course, so its pure distraction. You said European literature starts with Beowulf, not the Iliad. You were wrong. You could admit your mistake or you could try to distract and confuse. You chose the latter.

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    6. "Why does this matter?"

      Because you're lecturing us like you're some kind of expert, but you betray your lack of expertise when you make a basic mistake like thinking Beowulf came before the Iliad.

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    7. I didn't say it came before the Iliad. I said: "European literature, especially English literature starts with Beowulf..."

      We are not Greeks. People in England are not Greeks. People in Europe are not Greeks except in Greece. Even Greece spent more time being conquered by other countries than it did being Greece -- it celebrates two independence days. Somerby's emphasis on Homer is ridiculous and motivated by bro fascination with Greek and Roman warrior culture, which is part of the same masculinism that Hannah Lewis discusses. Guys who watch 300 over and over and luv that warrior ethic that Hegseth oozes while drunk.

      As I said, Beowulf is written in English while The Iliad was written in Greek. If you take a college level course in English Literature, you get Beowulf and never study The Iliad at all. It is not part of our American tradition, nor English tradition. It is part of what is called The Classics, which focuses on Greek and Roman history and literature. You learn Latin to study it. It is about the birthplace of Western civilization as a whole, which started not in Greece but in Mesopotamia, the junction of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, where language originated. None of that is relevant to our culture here in the USA, nor is it very relevant to Western Europe today (except in Greece and Italy). Even Christianity did not originate in Greece or Rome. It started in the Middle East and Western Asia (Ottoman Empire).

      I object to Somerby's effort to frame our culture as derived from sources that are not part of our heritage, simply because warrior bros like to fantasize about hand-to-hand combat and subjugating women.

      DG, you are wasting your time defending Somerby when he is wrong. I suspect he is doing this on purpose to promote a right wing extremism aligned with Nazis (who also admired this stuff) and guys like Curtis Yarvin.

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    8. Ok, dg, I’m not 1:25, but 1:25 didn’t say Beowulf came before Homer. Their view is that Beowulf is the true beginning of European literature. You can disagree, but you don’t need to make stupid implications.

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    9. Somerby's sexist garbage is his failure to understand how attacks on women (verbal and physical) fit into Trump's politics, his recruitment of young men's votes, his history with Epstein, and his own misogyny. Somerby only wants to talk about Gutfeld (and repeat the name-calling against Talarico), not discuss masculinism in any serious way. To Somerby, it is about opening pickle jars.

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    10. 3:12 - Learn to diagram a sentence.

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    11. DG: you mean “European literature begins with Beowulf not Homer.”?

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    12. "You can disagree, but you don’t need to make stupid implications."

      Yes, but it would be so out of character for DG to do otherwise.

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    13. Somerby is just repeating the day's talking points while pretending to be offended by Gutfeld and Watters. He is obviously paid to do that. Otherwise he would say more about Hannah Lewis and less about this stupid attack on Talarico.

      Meanwhile, No More Mister Nice Blog (Steve M.) points out that Democrats are not voting for the most extreme candidates the way Republicans are still doing (despite Trump's failures):

      https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2026/05/in-texas-democrats-didnt-vote-for.html

      He also discusses the campaign strategy being used against Talarico by the right:

      https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2026/05/can-james-talarico-avoid-being-dukakised.html

      This is what serious analysis looks like -- not the crap Somerby spews here.

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    14. Actually, I take that back, 3:12. I can see how you could read that sentence as saying: "Somerby is wrong in telling us that European literataure began with the Iliad, because the Iliad is not included within the canon of 'European literature.'"

      But if that is what is meant, it's dumb rather than ignorant. I don't know which is better.

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    15. Why do you focus on something so trivial when the person you are criticizing said a lot more interesting and controversial things?

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    16. Somerby does that too. He goes for the nitpick instead of contesting some more important point.

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    17. "Why do you focus on something so trivial"

      It was just the very first thing she wrote and it was so obviously ridiculous.

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  8. "That's where the culture begins! Centuries later, the children routinely become upset when related versions of "masculinity" are perhaps referred to as "toxic."

    There are many discussions of toxic masculinity, including definitions of the term and explanations of why it is bad for both men and women. Why does Somerby use the words "perhaps referred to" when there is no uncertainty that his term has been used before?

    I assume he wants to deny that masculinity can be toxic but if so, he should say so, not imply that there has been no such claim about masculinity. As phrased, he casts a shadow on the existence of women's concerns about how masculinity is expressed and diminishes the importance of those concerns.

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    1. The so-called culture does not begin with Homer, but if we assume it did, it has been far longer than "centuries later" to our present time. More like millenia.

      Somerby neglects to point out that the stories about the Greek gods' misbehavior are as egregious as what modern men do. I think that makes the gods themselves and the stories about them likely invented by men to excuse their own behavior, much the way Somerby has used them himself to claim that sexual misbehavior is innate and has always been with us. He neglects that such sexual behavior varies widely, has different rules in different cultures across time and geography, and includes women and men.

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  9. "Right there, at the dawn of the west, he refused to give up the girl! Slaving back and forth at the loom, the girl would also be forced to share the conqueror's bed!

    "The old man was terrified," the war poem now says. "He obeyed the order, turning, trailing away in silence down the shore where the battle lines of breakers crash and drag."

    This is why Somerby is an asshole. It doesn't occur to him that the Father doesn't own the girl any more than Agamemnon does. Further, it doesn't concern Somerby that the girl is the daughter of a priest, thus the Father is being disrespected, as is the religion of the time. That should be scandalizing in any culture that professes a religion.

    But the real travesty in this passage is that women are not being considered human beings, adults, people with rights to determine their own lives, choosing whether to go with Agamemnon or not. If the girl had chosen him, her father would not have any standing to beg for her return or intervene in her life choice, because it would be her decision who to work a loom for or sleep with. So the woman is being treate as chattel property, a slave.

    There can be no serious discussion of masculinity or sexual politics in that context, which is described in a work of fiction, not history. You could take this example out of its Greek context and put it into slavery times in the USA, where a slave father begs for his daughter to be freed from abuse by a master. We do not live in such times and it makes no sense to be quoting this total shit as if it had meaning for today's events.

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  10. "in response to the (willing) flight of Helen from Greece to Troy, where she now lives as the wife of feckless Paris, son of that city's King Priam. "

    In what way can Helen's flight be called willing when it was ordered by a god, who gave her to Paris for winning a prize? Somerby dislikes and distrusts women, so he has added this "willing" part when Helen had no choice. Perhaps Somerby has never read the backstory that started the war. He is notorious for only quoting the preface or first chapter of a book he has supposedly read. It is how lazy students barely pass their courses in college or high school.

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  11. "In modern times, the process of democratization has made it easy for boys and girls of this type to find each other and join forces as a societal subgroup—as a tribe."

    Of what type? Is Somerby pretending that Helen wanted to join Paris instead of being awarded to him as a prize, with no choice but to flee with him? Is he referring to adulterous couples? They are a tribe now?

    Sex researchers have studied the incidence of adultery in our culture. There is a widespread perception that cheating is common, that we are experiencing an epidemic of infidelity. The reality is that rates are about the same as when Kinsey conducted his fanous study, and much less than the perception, greater for men than women (15% to 11%, varying with age). As always, it is difficult to know exact figures because self-report is difficult to verify.

    The "everyone does it" excuse is not valid. Further 88% of women and 73% of men consider kissing to be cheating.

    The rate of marriage is decreasing. There is no indication that there is a "type" of person who engages in adultery, which does seem to be circumstantial and related to the quality of the marriage. Putting people into categories is at the heart of all forms of bigotry. I am not surprised to find that Somerby has an inclination toward sex-shaming women.

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    1. https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/is-america-experiencing-an-infidelity-epidemic/

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  12. Why does Somerby conflate misogyny with gay-baiting?

    Why does Somerby feel the need to repeat so much of Gutfeld's and Watters' bashing of Talerico? Of course they are using taunts that will appeal to men, in both their cruelty and their stereotypes of manly dominance. This worked for Trump in 2024 because Trump has so thoroughly lost the women's vote that he has to appeal to minority men and previously non-voting men in order to replace that segment of his base. Now it is even worse, but there may be a limit to how many ball-tanning geniuses will respond to his cons. There is no mystery about why this is happening. The mystery is why so many adult Republicans are standing by and letting this go on. Including Somerby, who actually seems to be part of the target audience for this kind of talk.

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  13. The problem is terms like “masculinity” and “femininity”. They are constructs and are completely pointless, often pernicious, reflecting social norms of the day and not any actual reality. They are often used as a weapon.

    Ancient Greece accepted homosexuality, in various degrees. Do the Gutfeld bros know that?

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    1. The problem is the Republican Party and the solution is to crush these nasty fucks at the polls. I mean Talarico is such a wimp, he has never gotten drunk and tried to bash a woman's head in. How can he be a US Senator?

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