SATURDAY: The president spoke for over an hour!

SATURDAY, JULY 25, 2026

A politics of meaning: Did the president really speak for over an hour?

Yes, he actually did! Beyond that, also this:   

We've told you, quite a few times, that (severe) mental illness is always a human tragedy. The same is true of serious cognitive decline, which joins mental illness is robbing its victim of his or her human capacities.    

We've also said that, as far as we know, serious mental illnesses are actual illnesses, often with physiological bases over which the afflicted individual has no control. We've suggested that, as a political matter, pity for an afflicted public figure might tend to move more votes, as opposed to the hostility and loathing to which we humans are all inclined.   

(Hostility and loathing harden tribal positions.)

That said, the person to whom we refer spoke for over an hour! King Lear wandered on the moors. Last night, the sitting president went to the Waldorf Astoria. 

Here's what the AP saw:   

Trump returns to correspondents’ dinner for a rambling, insult-filled speech 3 months after shooting   

President Donald Trump returned to the rescheduled White House Correspondents’ Association dinner Friday night, delivering a rambling, hour-long speech that praised some journalists, took potshots at others, made jokes about public figures’ weight and intellect, and quipped about a third presidential term.  

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Trump’s sometimes off-color speech, which lasted just over an hour, was full of vague potshots directed at individuals he doesn’t like—from Jane Fonda to Bruce Springsteen to “Barack Hussein Obama.” The audience, reacting at first with some friendly laughs, slowly quieted to scattered titters as the insults piled up.   

And so on from there.

"Insults" was by far the more accurate term, as opposed to the misleading "potshots." The Washington Post was perhaps a bit more direct:  

Trump’s insult-laden speech to press dinner draws mostly stunned silence   

President Donald Trump attacked a slew of journalists and some of his favorite political foils at a slimmed-down redo of the White House correspondents’ dinner on Friday, comparing one female reporter to a transgender social media star, mocking politicians’ physical appearances, and bringing his audience to mostly stunned silence for more than an hour before pulling out a red Trump 2028 cap and declaring he was running for another term.   

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He said that he had once mixed up CNN reporter Kaitlan Collins, whom he said “never smiles,” with a transgender social media personality, Dylan Mulvaney, after he called the 34-year-old cable news star a “young, attractive woman.”   

He said he planned to host twice-weekly fights at the White House.

“We will have sloppy Chris Christie, one of the sloppiest human beings, fighting,” Trump said to silence. “I could mention the governor of Chicago, but I’m going to mention instead Jerry Nadler. Oh my God! They’re fighting for a big piece of cheesecake, big fat piece of cheesecake.”  

For our money, the instant reports don't capture the pitiful squalor of what we saw as we watched the event on TV. 

Regarding the latest of the president's never-ending comments about Collins, Mediaite reports his remarks in sad full detail. To see that report, click here.

We expect to have more about last evening's event when transcripts become available. We haven't seen a report which captures how awful and sad the president's hour was.

For today, we'll link you to what Democracy Now once said, a long time ago, about the suggestion that we Americans need to develop a "politics of meaning."  

It was May 23, 1996. If you were willing to squint a bit, the shape of our current failing political culture had already come into view.

Democracy Now is an organ of what gets called "the left." Here's what Democracy Now said at that long-ago, distant time:   

Politics of Meaning  

There’s no doubt that we’re in a period of great cynicism about what government does or can do to improve our lives. Psychotherapist Michael Lerner believes this cynicism and the alienation that Americans feel are a direct result of the ethic of selfishness that pervades American politics, from the White House on down. 

Lerner is the author of a new book called The Politics of Meaning: Restoring Hope and Possibility in an Age of Cynicism. Michael Lerner gained national exposure when Hillary Rodham Clinton used his phrase “Politics of Meaning” in a speech; the media then started calling Lerner “Hillary’s Guru”. 

Nonetheless, Lerner’s ideas are the foundation for a growing social movement in the U.S. that blends humanist politics with spirituality, and aims to provide a progressive answer to the power of religious right. Last month, over a thousand participants attended a first national conference in Washington D.C.

We’ll now hear an excerpt of a speech by Michael Lerner in which he explains his concept of a politics of meaning and its importance in this era of conservative domination.   

The audio is no longer there. Our comment would be this:   

Democracy Now was looking for a "progressive answer" to the culture then current on "the right." There's no reason why the people at that site shouldn't have felt that way, but in our view, we really need a new politics in which people from all major points of view can accept certain basic precepts.  

At present, we're all stuck within a failed state. We desperately need a new politics. 

Some current behaviors will have to go. What we're doing now isn't sustainable.

Next week: We Blues


185 comments:

  1. "We refer to the uncomplicated moral clarity with which an elderly president seems to wish he had once affiliated himself in one of its various female forms. "

    What does this mean? This is Somerby, not Trump, talking and it makes no sense at all. It seems odd to hear one incoherent old man describing the words of another like this, but Somerby is speaking in some sort of personal code with references that readers cannot decipher. And then he pops in a quote from My Antonia, then speaks about Trump's regret, mumble mumble, something about clarity.

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    1. Somerby is out to lunch.

      Sad.

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    2. Trümpentod is coming. Praise the lord!

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    3. Trump and Somerby are old men. You’re not, and you lack the empathy to understand people unlike yourself.

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    4. Empathy towards people that suffer the condition of Trump and Somerby would involve some type of elder care; it is elder abuse to enable these pitiful old men.

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    5. I think what Somerby means is that Trump envies the moral clarity displayed by Collins.

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    6. I think the “in one of its various female forms” would be better placed after “moral clarity.” In other words:

      “We refer to the uncomplicated moral clarity in one of its various female forms with which an elderly president seems to wish he had once affiliated himself.”

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    7. Still makes no sense.

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    8. I am 72. We need a mandatory retirement age for politicians. These old fucks are useless. Give Biden credit, at least his people got good shit done. All old fuck Trump does is fuck things up three ways, while stuffing another bribe in his pocket. Hurry up and die you old POS,.

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    9. It's a roundabout way of saying Trump wants to fuck Collins, and is bitter because he can't.

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  2. "we really need a new politics in which people from all major points of view can accept certain basic precepts."

    Somerby doesn't say what this might be. The right will not accept "certain basic precepts" such as that women are equal to men and deserve to be treated as such, that immigrants are welcome in our country, that black and brown people are equal to white people, that taxes should be directed toward the public good not pocketed by grifters, that we are not aggressors on the world stage, that measles and cyclospora should be prevented, that the president's job is not to use his podium to call his "enemies" names. The right is still supporting Trump. As long as that is true, there is no meeting ground between right and left.

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    1. One of those basic precepts should be that grown men leave 13-14 year old girls alone, so they can have a childhood. But the news today is about Barron Trump's admiration for the Tates, as manosphere martyrs. Our government has failed when it does not protect all of its citizens from crime, and that includes women and girls who are victims of sex trafficking and violence. We must all agree that it is time for the Epstein files to be investigated and the perpetrators prosecuted, beginning with Trump himself.

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    2. Trümpentod is coming!

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    3. Is it OK if 15-16 year old boys seek the company of 13-14 year old girls?

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    4. Trump has multiple credible accusations of sexually assaulting minors.

      If you are amused by that, you are psychotic.

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    5. I’m psychotic, so I leave girls alone. But still, is it OK if teenage boys have teenage girlfriends?

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    6. You should check yourself into a facility then, instead of making moronic comments that mock sexual assault of minors.

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    7. I’ll check myself in, first thing Monday morning. But how about teenage boys and girls? Go or no go?

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    8. You should stay away from people of all sex and ages.

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    9. Will do. Now, what about teenagers? Can boys get close to girls?

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    10. All these euphemisms. Teens cannot consent to sex, boys or girls, until they and their partners are above the age of consent.

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    11. So, if teenagers have sex, are they committing a crime?

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    12. "But the news today is about Barron Trump's admiration .... *

      That's the news for a tiny faction of partisan jackasses only.

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    13. If that's the news for you, you are a jackass who has lost the plot. No offense.

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    14. The right will not accept "certain basic precepts" such as that women are equal to men and deserve to be treated as such."

      The left won't accept a precept that the right are human beings with dignity or that they are legitimate political opponents.

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    15. We'd accept you if you stopped with the plutocracy shit dumbass

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    16. "The left won't accept a precept that the right are human beings with dignity or that they are legitimate political opponents."

      The right's entire messaging strategy is to dehumanize everyone who isn't one of them, and this is how they've been governing. You have this backwards, champ.

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    17. You view the right as human beings with dignity and as legitimate political opponents?

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    18. Does the right view gays, minorities, women, and liberals in general as human beings with dignity and as legitimate political opponents? Or does the right try to take away their voting -- and other -- rights, throw anti-democratic riots after losing an election, push to establish an authoritarian state with certain groups targeted for marginalization? You have to have a certain mindset to be blind to what's actually going on, as opposed to the victimization you FEEL is going on.

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    19. So you do or do not view the right as human beings with dignity and as legitimate political opponents?

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    20. What rights have I, or "the left" tried to take away from "the right" that indicates otherwise? In fact, on what do you base your claim in the first place? What does the left DO that makes you feel so persecuted?

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    21. Why do you avoid the question? Do you or do you not view all people on the right as human beings with dignity? You don't. That's why you can't say the words.

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    22. Moving the goalposts to "all," I see -- which is incredibly foolish if you know the definition of the word "dignity."

      You aren't trying to make a point, but somehow score one with this nonsense. Obviously they are human beings -- only stupid people (like right wingers who refer to and treat whenever they can a VAST number of people and subgroups in a dehumanizing fashion) -- think all people aren't human beings. Do I think that, say, Trump has dignity? No, he does not. He is utterly and completely without shame or dignity. So there you are, champ: point scored! I don't think ALL people on the right are dignified.

      Now, let's get back to the actual issue here: one side -- as a group -- has programmatically been treating many other human beings as less than human beings, and with no respect for basic human dignity. Your crybabying and goalpost shifting doesn't disguise which side that is.

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    23. Today, right wing congressman Randy Fine referred to Mamdani as a "Muslim terrorist." Actually, I don't think it was just today, and he's used similar and worse language in the past, saying dogs are better than Muslims, for example. No Republican rebuked him for it. Can you, after patting dry your tears of victimhood with your hankie, find any such language used by someone on the left? Because if I were to do it on the right, It would take me at least a month to begin to capture it, and when I was done they'd have given me a few more days of material to work with.

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    24. You don't view the people on the right as human beings and citizens just like you are. My original comment is obviously true:

      The left won't accept a precept that the right are human beings with dignity or that they are legitimate political opponents.

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    25. "one side -- as a group -- has programmatically been treating many other human beings as less than human beings, and with no respect for basic human dignity.".

      Does the left view the right as less than human beings? They accuse the right of being all bigots, right?

      Why do you totally avoid the question every time? Because its true and you're too much pf a pussy to be honest about it.

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    26. Holding the right accountable for their words and actions is how you end-up viewing them all as bigots.

      It also makes it nearly impossible to view them as pro-life.

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    27. Anyone who isn't a bigot, or isn't perfectly fine with bigotry, left the Republican Party over a quarter of a century ago.

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    28. Exactly, the left views the right as moral inferiors. That can't agree with the precept they are morally equal. That's the point.

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    29. What morals are you referring to? Trump is a shameless bastard anyone supporting that monster has no morals

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    30. I've posted example after example of the right treating people like they are less than human. You simply repeat the same thing anyway. I wouldn't say this about the entire right, but YOU are morally and intellectually inferior. You've gone out of your way to demonstrate it.

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    31. Make Raping Children Wrong Again

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  3. Here is the problem with Somerby: "At present, we're all stuck within a failed state."

    He calls our nation a "failed state" when there is no evidence that it is such. For the past few days, he has been saying that we cannot have valid elections, contradicting Brooks and advancing Trump's rationale for whatever extra-legal action he may take after the midterms. Our state (nation) is still capable of conducting elections with integrity, contrary to Somerby's assertions (which are unsupported by evidence, just like Trump's).

    We are not a failed state in the sense that we are still carrying out the important functions of government. Social security checks are still being delivered. No one has invaded us militarily. Our roads are maintained. Many other functions have been destroyed by Trump, but not the essential ones, and nothing that cannot be reversed when a new president is elected. We will have a peaceful transition to that new president.

    It is unhelpful for Somerby to refer to our nation as a failed state without telling us what aspect of government has failed. His doom and gloom comes across as treason, not prediction, given that he has no basis for undermining our faith in our nation's functionality and the security of our elections. Not only does Somerby appear foolish, but venal, since such an attack on our nation can have consequences if weak minded individuals believe there is no longer a reason to participate in our civic duties, to vote and to obey the wise restraints that continue to make us all free.

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    1. Bob "Muddy the Waters" Somerby

      Agree.

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    2. Muddy Waters was the King Bee mofo.

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    3. He's gonna buzz your hive.

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    4. Muddy Waters borrowed from the greats that came before him and did well in passing the torch.

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    5. Muddy also worked with his contemporaries.

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    6. Muddy's work carried on a tradition that in part arose from the agony of being owned by slavers.

      Today we call those slavers "Republicans".

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    7. That’s right. The parties switched sides.

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    8. My buddy lived two doors down from Muddy. Very kind man, treated us 13-15 y.o. dummies listening to practice on his front porch with respect. Eventually had us inside and once Eric Clapton stopped by to jam. When we were old enough to go to his shows when he saw us he would say his pips are here.

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    9. 5:58 - That’s a nice story. You’re very lucky.

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    10. Thanks DG. We were lucky.

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  4. Perhaps Somerby should write an essay defending Barron Trump's efforts to protect Andrew Tate (and his brother) by using his daddy's influence.

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    1. Who knew Barron would turn out to be a gross motherfucker?

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    2. I knew it, but I didn’t tell anyone.

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    3. Not reporting crimes to the authorities is often a serious crime itself.

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    4. It was a private matter, between Barron and Melania.

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    5. Trump goes on and on about how hot his daughter is and how he'd like to "date" her.

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    6. Again, a private matter. She’s an adult.

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    7. She's a married woman 12:27, why do you hate the institution of marriage?

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    8. There are several pictures of Trump cuddling Ivanka when she was 12-14 years old. Inappropriate poses that fathers and daughters would avoid because of a distaste for incest. That instinct is missing in those photos. Why? What do you guys think the word "grooming" means?

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    9. For God sakes, she’s giving the abomination a lap dance in several photos I’ve seen

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    10. For some reason, Trump lost interest in fucking his own daughter as soon as she became an adult.

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  5. "(Willa Cather's narrator, in My Antonia: "The older girls, who helped to break up the wild sod, learned so much from life, from poverty, from their mothers and grandmothers; they had all, like Antonia, been early awakened and made observant by coming at a tender age from an old country to a new.")"

    What does this have to do with anything else Somerby has written? Are we a failed state because there is no longer enough "wild sod" to go around? What does Somerby read into the words "early awakened"? Is this one of the paragraphs Somerby has underlined in his worn copy of Cather's paperback novel? Would Somerby feel the same if these girls were not nordic goddesses but short brown-skinned women from Mexico?

    Somerby is embarrassing himself again today, nearly as much as Trump did last night.

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    1. Maybe not a failed state, exactly. How about a failing state?

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    2. It is reasonable to argue that while the US is not optimal, not by a mile, it is the most successful state in history, particularly when considering some of the foundational values and the expression of those values in the New Deal that led to the greatest economic growth and expansion of the middle class in history, until it hit a brick wall in 1981.

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    3. The US invented rock and roll.

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    4. And then the UK perfected it.

      And then the US killed it.

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    5. And then the US invented rap.

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    6. Disco sucks. I was at Cominsky Park when Steve blew it all up man!

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    7. Obs you're not from Chicago or don't speak it properly.

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    8. A lot of people from outside Chicago used to go to Comiskey Park.

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  6. Tiedrich has a better sense of perspective than Somerby:

    "oh, look. the dumbest fucking shitkadoodles in the world are Big Mad at a movie — and no one is Bigger or Madder than the Space Nazi.

    Before this year ends, Grok Imagine will make a full-length movie of The Odyssey that is historically accurate and true to the art of Homer

    here’s the issue: the Space Nazi and his infantile cohort are super triggered right now because filmmaker Christopher Nolan had the temerity to cast trans people and people of color in his version of the Odyssey. how clownfuckingly petty is that? I mean, the ancient Greeks pretty much invented gender fluidity — but whatever, Elon. you do you.

    imagine having all the money in the world. imagine living in a world of limitless choices and opportunities, and what you choose to do with your time is type angrily into your phone about stupid bullshit that’s of no importance.

    what a snowflake. what a pathetic fucking dipshit.

    I don’t know about you, but I’m looking forward to the Space Nazi’s own personal six-fingered plagiarism robot — the one that calls itself ‘mechaHitler’ and has been known to generate child porn on command — ginning up a ‘historically accurate’ version of story about giants, a dude with one eye in the middle of his forehead, and men being turned into pigs.

    what could possibly go wrong?"

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    1. Bari Weiss is married to a woman. What the fuck is wrong with her? That is not allowed now.

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    2. Bari is perverted, journalistically and personally.

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    3. Bari "Insane" Weiss inherited a media empire and is in the process of throwing it all away, pretty much like how Trump inherited nearly $500 million and threw it all away on multiple bankruptcies, and lots of partying with underage girls.

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    4. She didn’t inherit it. A billionaire bought it and hired her to demolish it.

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    5. To be fair, she was willing to sell her soul for the privilege of destroying journalism in our country

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  7. Imagine sitting for an hour listening to Trump's crude insults. No wonder his own supporters leave his rallies early.

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    1. Faulting Trump for not attracting an audience is like faulting Einstein for not being smart.

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    2. Fuck off, dickhead

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    3. Trump is the least popular president in history.

      11:19 Fake news troll.

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    4. DiC, if they show up they leave early.

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    5. Attracting an audience of dolts.

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    6. Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

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    7. Einstein explained relatively clearly and correctly, after telling readers they needed to know some basic mathematics and they would have to do some work.

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    8. The more of a war craving maniac he becomes, the smaller the cult. Funny that.

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  8. Next Week: We Blues

    No, Somerby is not blue and thus not entitled to say "we".

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    1. We reds don’t want him.

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    2. Reds are the only ones here that support him.

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    3. We want him to divide them but stay away from us.

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  9. Somerby sees only two options: pity or hostility and loathing.

    In reality, outside of math, everything in the universe is on a spectrum.

    In reality, Dems do not feel hostility towards Trump and the Republicans so much as they fear them; people are terrified of Republicans, and rightfully so, Republicans are wreaking havoc and destruction in the US and throughout the world.

    Somerby misunderstands tribalism: tribalism is an important human trait that involves cooperation, community, and collectivism; Somerby only wants to consider rivalry tribalism (intergroup hostility) which is different and not innate to humans but emerges from certain circumstances of our society.

    This kind of intergroup hostility has existed in the US since its formation, and has often been more acute than it currently is.

    In fact in the last year and a half, there has been a coalescing, a positive tribalism, that right wingers like Somerby find threatening. Right wingers are more inclined towards negative tribalism, it is their comfort zone where they feel like they can thrive and gain power.

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    1. Hostility and cooperation are both natural.

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  10. Trumpentod is coming.

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  11. Somerby's inclination towards racism, sexism, and xenophobia align perfectly with the Republican Party.

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  12. “a new politics in which people from all major points of view can accept certain basic precepts.”

    Which precepts?

    There is significant disagreement about policies, which involves in some cases fundamental disagreements, about the role of government, taxation, climate change, civil rights, etc.

    Somerby documents here the misogyny on Gutfeld, and there is a growing view on the right that women should be eliminated from politics and voting. How do you come to some sort of acceptance of basic precepts with this?

    During the civil war, the idea that human beings should not be bought and sold like property seems like a basic precept that was rejected by half the country.

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    1. Why did we have a civil war? Because Lincoln won. These people have no use for democracy. That is the problem that Somerby doesn’t see

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    2. The disagreement extends far beyond policies to the meaning of words themselves. The right wing has a different definition of the word "freedom" than do most others, for example. So while everyone can agree with the phrase "freedom is good," you quickly run into problems when you realize people are talking about quite different things.

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    3. The disagreement is over the very nature of our system of government. I don’t know why people don’t understand this

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    4. The disagreement is over why are these poor folks (especially the brown ones) getting my tax money. And also too, praise Jebus

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    5. People who are elected will join a bunch of colleagues of all different views in Congress. None of them have the power to chang our existing system of government. This idea that a handful of Democratic socialists are going to remake anything is a scare tactic.

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  13. I am now listening to the speech, having watched 25 minutes so far. It's a relatively low-key speech so far. Trump had one shot, accusing the audience of TDS -- an accurate statement IMO. But, essentially, it's a normal speech. The nasty description quoted by Bob is an example of TDS. The media sees it as their job to make Trump look bad.

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    1. Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

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    2. Did you get to the “Newscum” part of the speech yet, fuckface?

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    3. “The media sees it as their job to make Trump look bad”

      This was an event hosted by the media. And, do you really think it takes the media to make Trump look bad?

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    4. Donald: he sure can take a joke, can’t he?

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    5. And let’s not forget the multiple unprecedented threats, lawsuits, and subpoenas that Trump is ordering against media companies and journalists. Free speech? Freedom of the press?

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    6. "The nasty description quoted by Bob is an example of TDS."

      You know who else has a pretty bad case of TDS? Iran. Not because of the media, but because of their exposure to pure, unadulterated, unfiltered, 100% right-out-of-the-box Trump.

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    7. Huge fan of Trump here, think he is hilariously funny. But last night he bombed. Worst performance at this event by a sitting president since-ever. It has to suggest to even an ardent supporter like myself that he is possibly demented and evil.

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    8. I’m a life-long Trump supporter, but I’m starting to worry about him, too. I think it’s time for JD Vance to take over.

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    9. I’ve been a strong supporter of Orange chickenshit since before I was born. I think he needs more hair plugs.

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    10. "The media sees it as their job to make Trump look bad."

      Karl Marx warned us about corporations over a century ago, but morons thought they knew better.

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    11. Trump looks horrible without any help from anyone else.

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  14. DiC gets 25 minutes into Trump’s hour and has to report breathlessly that as he has seen so far it was going well. Kind of like reporting on the great success of the illegal war with Iran after the first two weeks (not including bombing those school girls, of course).

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    1. Killing brown school girls is the icing on top silly.

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    2. I watched the rest of the speech. It was a mediocre speech IMO. Whatever speechwriter wrote it did a poor job. A lot of lines were supposed to be funny, but fell flat.

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    3. Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

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    4. When they laugh, he's the greatest comedian since Rodney Dangerfield, when no laughs, it's the speechwriter's fault. There is something seriously the fuck wrong with DiC.

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  15. Housing costs are going down thanks to the Trump team.

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    1. Lay off the hard drugs weirdo.

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  16. Could it possibly be true that pitying a mentally ill Trump might move more votes than loathing him? (Or, reworded, is loving your enemy a wiser political strategy than hating him?)

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    1. Fuck that greasy pussy.

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    2. What is the practical meaning, DG? Let him get away with his corruption? Not prosecute him for crimes? Help him put his name back on the Kennedy center? Allow him to steal elections? He is a malevolent force and has to be stopped. In a functioning society, you can’t just turn the other cheek. You should punish transgressors. Punishment doesn’t stand in opposition to “love”, whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean as a practical matter. Do you for example “love” Trump, DG?

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    3. The Jews should have loved Hitler. Then they wouldn’t have suffered the Holocaust.

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    4. The President of the United States has, along with his family, been enriched by 4 billion dollars in less than two years. And that's what we know about. That amounts to over 6 million dollars a day. Who would you like us to pity? Your take on this is ludicrous.

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  17. 11:24 - I’m for holding Trump legally accountable for all his corruption, but we can’t do that if we lose elections. And Somerby is right, I think, that hostile loathing hardens tribal affiliations. If you’re a drooling Trump-Hater you will not be able to reach your union trucker uncle who voted for Trump because he believed Trump would drive down the price of gasoline.

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    1. I don’t drool.

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    2. You clearly don't have a close relative who is a MAGA. They have all the answers. Your opinion of Trump doesn't matter to them and they will not bend to facts.

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    3. If your union trucker uncle is not able to connect the dots regarding the high cost of his fuel, if that pocketbook pain is insufficient to alter his allegiance to the perpetrator who literally said he didn't care about how much costs your uncle incurs, then you will not sway him by telling him how sorry you are for Trump, or whatever gibberish you think will work. Because it won't. I have a MAGA niece who is 50 and will tell you with conviction that today's inflation is caused by Joe Biden. Their alternative reality has no room or interest in your feelings. Or facts for that matter. The economy and the sense that current leadership does not give a shit about Middle and lower income voters will dictate the results of the next election, not any of your placating.

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    4. It’s not placating to say that Trump’s erratic and dangerous behavior may stem from an untreated mental illness.

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    5. And they’ll accuse you of TDS before you can say “reflecting pool fuckup”

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    6. DG, it is enabling to say that when the alternative is that Trump is a sociopathic criminal interested in nothing but increasing his wealth and stealing the spotlight.

      There is no such thing as TDS. There is truthtelling and lying. We Dems try to choose truth over lies. Republicans, not so much.

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    7. DG - unlike you, I have little interest in punishing various politicians and opinion leaders. I am interested in seeing that all Americans live as well as possible. Trump’s policies do a better job than Democratic policies. They simply work better IMO.

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    8. There isn’t a single economic indicator that is better today than when king chickenshit took office. Go fuck yourself David

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    9. David, Trump is corruptly abusing his office to make a profit for himself and his family. That’s ok with you? You complained about Hunter Biden’s supposed corruption, now suddenly corruption by public officials doesn’t matter to you? And what about the exploding deficit, exploding more because of Trump, that you viewed as an existential crisis when Biden was president?

      How is the general public living “as well as possible” right now, are they living better than under Biden, and what does the phrase “as well as possible” even mean to you?

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    10. @12:49 - I compare areas of the country governed following Dem policies vs Rep policies. In general the Rep areas are more prosperous, better educated, and have far less crime. E.g., compare Cook County to the remainder of Illinois.

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    11. You’re joking, right David? Cook County includes the inner suburbs.

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    12. Average income in Illinois: 70K.
      Average income in Cook County: 82K.

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    13. If you think Republican “areas” are more prosperous, please visit Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, etc.

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    14. You certainly don't compare any facts Dickhead. Blue States pay for red state benefits. Red states suck on blue state teats, Get the fuck out of here with the stoopid you ignorant troll cunt.

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    15. And just like that, dickhead pulls the old switcheroo and we’re no longer debating the orange dictators manifest insanity

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    16. There’s no use discussing Trump’s mental health. All Bob and others are doing is pulling a few comments out of some long speech.

      It is more feasible to evaluate people’s quality of life.

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    17. fuck you, David. you come her to divert, distract and deflect - that's all you ever do, because you're a shameless fucking phony lying sack of shit

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    18. David in Cal,
      It totally makes sense that you would like Trump/ Republicans. After all, when was the last time a Republican/ Trump voter, like yourself, cared about the federal deficit or inflation?
      I'd guess, never.

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    19. “There’s no use discussing Trump’s mental health. ”

      Did you read this from DiC, DG?

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  18. Not every single Trump voter is unpersuadable. Portraying Trump as a sick man - which he is - does not mean letting him off the hook for his criming.

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    1. Those who think at this late date that Trump still is the answer do not care if you think he is sick. Your opinion is irrelevant to them. It’s like trying to explain the fossil record to someone whose religious beliefs insist that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Why do you think that person is any less convinced in their beliefs than you are in yours? The persuadable contingency on that side has already converted. The hard liners are what’s left now and telling them you think Trump is sick is either insulting or irrelevant to them.

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    2. This is absurd. Trump voters fucking knew who they were voting for and did it anyway. They like the fact that he is crazy. They laughed in my face when I tried to stop them from doing this to our country.

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    3. I am not arguing that the hard liners do not have a few more to be peeled off. Recent polling suggests that rural inhabitants have trended down in their Trump approval. If he sent their sons and daughters into a ground war in Iran he would continue that trend. Your declaring him demented, sociopathic, corrupt, racist, or sexually deviant would have no bearing on the matter, however. Your nor my opinion on the matter have no bearing with them.

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    4. Trump voters don't have anywhere else to go. They are not welcome in the Democratic Party.

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    5. If Trump's regime declined to pay out DiC's Social Security or Medicare benefits you couldn't blink an eye before he would argue for the the socialist policies that those of a certain age in this country enjoy all the while calling others communists. Everybody has their breaking point.

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    6. 8:36, that’s idiotic

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    7. “Your nor my opinion on the matter have no bearing with them.”

      Exactly my point. Why not? Because in their mind our judgments are infected with TDS. Nobody listens to haters on the other side.

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    8. People fail to listen at their own peril. We Blues believe that Trump voters brought this on themselves, despite our warnings. TDS is not a real thing any more than fake news is.

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    9. This idea that Trump voters need Democratic Party permission to vote for someone who is not a right wing extremist is part of their con. Any registered voter can vote for anyone on the ballot. No permission needed.

      Are Republicans really this stupid? DG seems to be.

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    10. 10:39. Well that argument went full circle. From suggesting that telling MAGAs their leader is sick in order to somehow win them over to maintaining that their labeling you TDS makes such efforts pointless.

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    11. 11:14. Exactly. DG isn’t making any sense

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    12. @9:13 - yes, people who lack wealth will vote to be given other people’s wealth. Unfortunately that leads to a system where people are mostly poor, like Russia.

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    13. I want David’s wealth.

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    14. GDP of US: 31 trillion; GDP of Russia: 2 trillion.

      (Figure for US doesn’t factor in Trump’s stealing parts if it for himself)

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    15. I accept a 19T decrease in GNP if it means I get David’s wealth.

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    16. The knee jerk right wing mantra that involves comparisons with Russia is not unexpected from a social security/ Medicare recipient whose idea of a leader is a grifter making millions of dollars daily off his position. But but but but Communism!

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    17. I’ll try once more, then I’m done. Trump voters are not all the same. Some might be reachable. But you won’t reach them if you tell them that the man they voted for is evil - they have already rejected that argument. But you might reach them if you suggest that he should be pitied because he is unwell, and that he should be removed from power because his illness makes him dangerous.

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    18. Your psychology is not correct, DG. Why do you think they will listen to you when you call him mentally ill? You aren’t doing any Trump supporter any good by avoiding the discussion of his corruption as well. If they can’t see his sociopathy, you sure aren’t going to convince them. Besides, to convince them of that, you’d have to tell them about his corruption and how he’s screwing them, which you think won’t convince them. You don’t have to call him “evil” to point out his sociopathy, although plenty of his followers think democrats are evil.

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    19. No, were are evil COMMUNISTS!!!! who don't even bathe.

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    20. "declined to pay out DiC's Social Security or Medicare benefits you couldn't blink an eye before he would argue for the the socialist policies that those of a certain age in this country enjoy all the while calling others communists" Nope. DiC is the kind of privileged fuck face who will insist he gets his, while the yutes get fucked. Selfish jaggoff and weirdo be the DiC.

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    21. No one says Trump supporters are all the same. The argument from me is that they will only be swayed- like many other voters- by self interest. Whether that is concern regarding the possibility of being ground zero for an Iranian ICBM, fear of getting raped by their neighbor’s landscaper, concerns that drag queens will recruit their children, what will happen to them under sharia law, or how they can afford their gas and groceries, they are a diverse lot who are well aware of Trump’s version of crazy and they see it as a feature, not a fault.

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    22. “the possibility of being ground zero for an Iranian ICBM, “

      Bwahahaha!!! So they vote for the monumental imbecile who ripped up a nuclear deal that was working !!!

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    23. Sharia Law - or the Bibles First Testament, that the fake Christian Repukes quote 'cause they can't stand what woke Jesus really had to say to them.

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    24. Dogface George,
      Go ahead.
      Persuade David in Cal not to elect bigots and child rapists to run the country.
      Good luck!

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  19. Oh sweet Fanny. My dearest Fanny fair. Precious, sweet Fanny. Oh Fanny.

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  20. Inside the Phone-Throwing Drama at the Troubled, Broke Democratic Party

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/26/us/politics/ken-martin-dnc-democrats.html

    The Democrat party is divided, broke and in disarray. They've done such a poor job as of late.

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    1. 8:02 it's nothing Jasmine Crockett cant fix.

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    2. Not to worry. They only have to beat the Republicans in the midterms.

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    3. Yea, its not like they have Demented Donnie running the country into a bankrupt war torn fucking shithole.

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    4. Democrats hate this country so much, they don't even support losing the Iran War on Day One.

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  21. Iran Update

    They're begging for a deal.

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    1. Iran will accept nothing short of the unconditional surrender.

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    2. Persia wants the Persian Gulf.

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    3. You imitating DIC Hector?

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  22. Trump orders Smithsonian to post warnings about 'inaccurate' US history

    Because fuck you, what are you going to do about it!

    Don’t ever call Trump voters racist , they might get mad. lol

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