23 YEARS LATER: Chris Hayes lives, Dan Rather died!

FRIDAY, AUGUST 7, 2015

Part 5—A tale of two tribal approaches:
In September 2004, on network TV, Dan Rather made a mistake. In a report on CBS, he overshot what he knew and could prove about President George W. Bush

The conservative world pushed back, quite hard. Basically, Rather’s mistake ended his network career.

That happened in 2004. Consider a second approach to such matters, an approach which is quite standard within a different tribe.

In March 1992, the New York Times published the first in a set of front-page reports which largely created the alleged Whitewater scandal.

Twenty-three years later, the liberal world still hasn’t pushed back against those front-page reports! You might call it a tale of two tribal approaches. It leads us to Chris Hayes.

Good grief! Two weeks ago, the New York Times managed to publish its latest front-page debacle. The multiply-bungled front-page report required a pair of formal corrections by the famous and hapless newspaper.

Twenty-three years later, the target of the front-page debacle was named Candidate Clinton again.

Is the New York Times conducting some sort of “vendetta” against this particular candidate?

The history underlying that question comprises a long and winding road. Last Sunday, in her weekly column, New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan seemed to suggest that the suggestion isn’t exactly crazy.

Explicitly, Sullivan said she agreed with a reader who had written this: “it is undeniable that [Candidate Clinton] is already facing significantly tougher coverage than any other potential candidate.”

Sullivan didn’t explicitly challenge other judgments about the Times—judgments which had been expressed by well-known professors and journalists. That included James Fallows’ reference to a “Clinton vendetta” inside the Times.

It also included Jay Rosen’s assessment: “I have resisted this conclusion over the years, but after today’s events it’s fair to say the Times has a problem covering Hillary Clinton.”

Good lord! This front-page debacle was so undisguised that leading liberals even felt free to comment! Over the course of these twenty-three years, that isn’t the way this obedient group has tended to respond.

How has the liberal world tended to act? Consider the way Chris Hayes reacted to the latest front-page debacle. It happened on the All In program of Monday, July 27.

By now, the basic shape of the latest front-page debacle was clear. The Times had published two formal corrections, dragging its feet as it did.

Sullivan had already posted a first report about the latest disaster. Her punishing headline said this: “A Clinton Story Fraught With Inaccuracies: How It Happened and What Next?”

Was this latest debacle part of a pattern at the New York Times? Did it suggest a vendetta, a problem covering Hillary Clinton?

Or was it just a simple mistake, the type of mistake which just happens? There’s no simple way to answer such questions. That said:

Twenty-three years later, Hayes was eager to take the Times’ side.

On Monday evening, July 27, Hayes described the groaning errors the Times had made. He then introduced Eric Boehlert of Media Matters, a liberal press watchdog site.

Boehlert is very experienced and very knowledgeable, which doesn’t mean he’ll always be right in every judgment he makes. That said, Hayes seemed to adopt an adversarial stance toward Boehlert right from the jump:
HAYES (7/27/15): A top editor at The New York Times today explained their reporting, saying, quote, “We got it wrong because our very good sources had it wrong.”

The entire episode raises the issue of the strange, fraught, combative, some argue dysfunctional relationship between the Clintons and the Times.

Joining me now, Eric Boehlert, senior fellow at Media Matters, who is one of the people I think who thinks there is dysfunction.

All right, so you guys—you guys won this round.

BOEHLERT: They made it easy.

HAYES: Well, they got the story wrong. At this point, it’s clear that the two key things that made it a bombshell story—criminal inquiry, Hillary Clinton—are not true.

BOEHLERT: Yeah! Other than that, they got it right!
Uncle Boehlert was funnin’ a bit. To watch the whole segment, click this.

In a slightly odd word choice, Hayes was still referring to the bungled report as “a bombshell story.” More significantly, he seemed to frame this latest event as a battle between two warring parties—Media Matters and the Times—with Media Matters winning the most recent round.

So far, nothing was necessarily “wrong” with Hayes’ approach. But soon, he was stating his theory of the case—and lavishly praising the Times:
HAYES: So this is where I want to get. So you guys have a theory that the New York Times has it out for the Clintons.

BOEHLERT: Yes.

HAYES: In this case, you have got two reporters. I think it’s Michael Schmidt and Matt Apuzzo, if I’m not mistaken, both of who are fantastic reporters, in my humble opinion, great reporters. This time, it seems, they got this wrong.

What is your evidence that there is some sort of larger pattern or practice? Here’s—

Let me give you my theory of the case. They write a lot about the Clintons.

BOEHLERT: No, that’s not it.

HAYES: And, like anyone does, because they’re the paper of record, and these are two of the most important, powerful, famous people in all of American and American politics, sometimes they write stuff you guys don’t like. But largely they don’t.

BOEHLERT: It’s not that we don’t like it. It’s not accurate...
Before allowing his guest to opine, Hayes offered his own “theory of the case.” When he did, a PR firm couldn’t have pushed the New York Times’ greatness much harder.

Hayes’ theory denied any animus, or “pattern and practice,” within the New York Times. He advanced a set of ideas which may be right or may be wrong. But he was praising the greatness of the Times more than the Times had itself.

The (youngish) reporters who bungled the front-page report are “fantastic” and “great,” Hayes said. He continued with his dismissive framework, referring to the front-page debacle as a report “you guys don’t like.”

It fell to Boehlert to challenge the framework. “It’s not that we don’t like it,” he said. “It’s not accurate,” Boehlert was forced to note.

So far, Boehlert hadn’t been asked or allowed to state his own theory about the Times. According to Hayes’ theory, the latest debacle had simply been a mistake—the kind of mistake which will occur if a newspaper writes enough reports about a major pol.

We aren’t necessarily saying that Hayes is “wrong” in this view. Such questions are hard to determine.

But Hayes was aggressively defending the Times. No conservative on the face of the earth had supported Dan Rather this way.

That doesn’t mean that Hayes was “wrong” in his views. But good grief! When Boehlert began to discuss the past twenty-three years at the New York Times, Hayes began rolling his eyes:
BOEHLERT: Now, here’s the pattern. Go back to Whitewater, go back to Wen Ho Lee, go back to Loral Satellites, go back to the 90s. They have been trying to criminalize—

HAYES: A massive percent of the people who are like, “I have no idea...”

BOEHLERT: I know. That’s what Google is for, thank God. And you go to Media Matters.

HAYES: Wen Ho Lee, A Block tomorrow! Sorry.

BOEHLERT: And Whitewater, and all that stuff. Look, they have been trying to criminalize the Clintons for 20 years.

HAYES: What is “they?” What does that mean, though? What does that mean?
Boehlert tried to describe the historical pattern in the Times’ reporting. When he did, Hayes interrupted.

None of his viewers even know who Wen Ho Lee is, he mockingly said. And yes, that’s almost certainly true! In large part, that’s because of the crappy conduct of people like Hayes all through the past twenty-three years.

It’s a tale of two tribal approaches! When Dan Rather made his mistake, conservative orgs got out the old, yellowed film of Rather challenging Richard Nixon.

Mainstream news orgs ran the tape too! And everyone knew what that old yellowed tape was supposed to prove:

It proved that Rather had always been biased against Republican pols!

That’s what happened when Dan Rather made his fatal mistake. By way of contrast, when the New York Times published its latest debacle, Hayes kept interrupting Boehlert, mocking his theory and his knowledge and swearing that Hayes’ fellow 30-something scribes were the greatest reporters on earth.

Hayes has done this before:

In September 2012, he pimped the conservative attacks on Susan Rice, deferring to the greatness of youngish reporter Eli Lake. (One week later, he flipped.)

In late April of this year, the Times published its ludicrous, sprawling front-page report about the treasonous conduct of the Clintons in the scary uranium deal. On his MSNBC program, Hayes vouched for the Times’ ridiculous work, which the paper had cooked up in coordination with conservative Peter Schweizer.

Hayes batted Boehlert aside on that April program too. Last Monday night, he did it again, heaping praise on his youngish colleagues and ignoring their prior mistakes:
BOEHLERT: It’s institutional...There is a career path in D.C. You take cheap shots at the Clintons, you are going to get the clicks. It was written about—this has been chronicled.

HAYES: Do you think that’s true about the original email story, which they got right?

BOEHLERT: No, they didn’t get it right, because they hinted at criminality and they had to walk that back. But people sort of forget about that.

HAYES: But that’s a story! You agree that’s a story.

BOEHLERT: That she had a private email, yeah. But they didn’t get it right. Again, they wanted to hint at criminality. It was wrong.
The fantastic Schmidt had bungled parts of the first report too. Chastened, Hayes found his way to an accurate claim—Clinton’s use of the private server actually is “a story.”

Hayes pimped the good faith of the New York Times all through his session with Boehlert. Eventually, he even told Boehlert that his claim about the Times “starts to sound, it sounds like a little paranoid.”

Twenty-three years later, this is the way one liberal star reacted to the latest debacle. In our final report in this series, we’ll look at the way other top liberals did and didn’t react.

Hayes is sometimes called “The Puppy.” Aggressively, he pimped the good faith of the New York Times all through his session with Boehlert.

Whatever the truth about the Times, we don’t think Hayes was doing good work that night. Twenty-three years later, he suggested that Boehlert was “paranoid” for thinking a pattern exists.

Meanwhile, Wen Ho Lee? You’ve got to be kidding, Hayes said.

We leave you with a long-standing question: Why do our big liberal stars do this? Truth to tell, this important, history-changing question stretches back twenty-three years.

Coming: Top tweets from the rest of the pack

52 comments:

  1. You have to understand: Chris Hayes has an agenda. He views himself as the new liberal vanguard--that's his brand. And part of that means disavowing the old DLC-types like Clinton, Cuomo, etc.

    It isn't necessarily that he's anti-Clinton, but he's going to stick to what got him here.

    Hayes is a well-connected (wife was once an assistant WH counsel to Obama) careerist media figure who's attempting to brand himself as the new liberal intelligentsia. His posturing during the Ferguson riots was icky.

    What's a little insulting is that he has such disregard for the education and political memory of his audience. Wen Ho Lee? Those morons won't remember that! They didn't go to BROWN like him!

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    1. You might as well admit: You don't understand but 1:54 has inside scoop and will make you.

      It's icky and a little insulting, but you need the help.

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    2. Sick burn 337. Well done.

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    3. I am glad Somerby caught up with his readers. The Chris Hayes show in question was first discussed in the Comment box a week and a half ago.

      But Somerby has had more important matters to attend to.

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    4. I agree with you that this is career posturing on Hayes's part, but it no doubt has roots in the bombastic Clinton hatred of the "progressive" left. But, we will see worse. I wish the Daily Howler could disagree with Hayes with fewer insults.

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    5. I commented on that ridiculous Chris Hayes segment the next day. Somerby doesn't even do justice describing how smarmy and condescending Hayes was. It makes you wonder why he even bothered inviting Eric Boehlert on the show to begin with. Hayes will never take the Clintons side vs. the NY Times. He would rather juggle white hot coals then ever insult the paper of record. You can also see that Hayes has swallowed whole the right wing noise machine attacks against Media Matters. He is so superior and objective compared to Media Matters don't you know.

      What the hell is this supposed to mean?

      "All right, so you guys—you guys won this round."

      Who precisely is "you guys"? Obviously Chris Hayes doesn't want to sully his pure objectivity by associating with those people at Media Matters. Fuck him.

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  2. Lets face it, the Puppy has no bark or bite.

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    1. By calling the New York Times "the paper of record," the New York Times’ greatness could not have been pushed much harder, even by a PR firm..

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    2. Howler, Somerby, & Socrates Public Relations, Inc:

      "The Times is our nation's paper of record." 4/13/2013

      "Joe Nocera is a columnist for our nation's newspaper of record."

      "How do you make mistakes like that if you're a nation's paper of record? Today, the paper of record repeats a claim which has been debunked a million times."

      "Why don't our major media figures and our paper of record join parents in calling for renewed focus on the educational needs of black kids..."

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    3. I sense a proper degree of snark in Somerby's comments, while the Puppy showed reverence. Can't blame him though, an unflattering word might make for an uncomfortable moment or two for the Puppy and the Mrs. on the NY media cocktail party circuit next time around.

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    4. From snarky Somerby's favorite source of everything:

      "Newspaper of Record"

      Origin of the term

      The term is believed to have originated among librarians, who began referring to The New York Times as the "newspaper of record" when, in 1913, it became the first U.S. newspaper to publish an index of the subjects covered in its pages."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record

      Then there are those "Mad Men" down at the old Encyclopedia Britannica

      "The New York Times

      New York Times, The morning daily newspaper published in New York City, long the newspaper of record in the United States and one of the world’s great newspapers."

      http://www.britannica.com/topic/The-New-York-Times

      What a suck butt that "Puppy" is.

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    5. Do you seriously believe Hayes is not defending the Times?

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    6. What a question!

      Of course not.

      I'm just a douchebag troll: I don't "believe" things. I'm here to shit on the concept of liberal media criticism.

      Troll, 1
      Sanity, 0

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    7. I'd say 5:02 is talking about Somerby and not Hayes.

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  3. Shorter Somerby:

    Their tribe: winners. My tribe: losers.


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    1. No, that's what elections determine.

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    2. Tribes take scalps.

      Bob has none under his belt.

      Toothless old papoose.

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    3. One side fights back, our side, or those selected by corporate suits to represent our views and interests don't. Helps perpetuate a "wimp" stereotype.

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    4. I am glad you are a member of the wimpy tribe of liberal warriors and are following the rebellion of Blogging Bob, who wants his tribe to be like the other tribe, except those times when he doesn't.

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    5. Who else is critiquing our badly underperforming corporate liberal media? In MSNBC's case they can't even get liberals to watch.

      My understanding is Somerby is warning against liberals drifting towards lazy conservative tactics, not to be more like them.

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  4. Hey Bob.

    Dan Rather may be a but older than you, but he is alive and well. You can catch him as a guest on The Rachel Maddow Show every once in a while.

    She has a show on MSNBC if you haven't heard.

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    1. Dead men don't play xylophones.

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    2. You trolls really don't do metaphor. His career is pretty much dead, especially if reduced to appearing on Maddow's show.

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    3. So when did Somerby "die"? The day he took up blogging?

      The day he left the classroom? Or the day he said Goodbye to Al Jr. and Tommy Lee in Harvard Yard?

      Last I checked Dan is 83. He was 72 when the end of his employment at CBS left him for "dead" in Bob's estimation.

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    4. It's better to retire than to be retired.

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    5. Yes 6:02. I couldn't agree more. That's what my son the Doctor said when his application for Medical School in Grenada was turned down.

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  5. Howler readers! A little help?

    Trying to understand this fuzzy Somerby chronology.

    1974. Dan Rather confronts Pres. Nixon.

    2004 Dan Rather ousted at CBS after mistake about Pres. Bush

    So, does that give liberals until 2023 to get the New York Times fired for a mistake about Pres. Hillary Clinton?

    Or does it give them until 2046 to get Chris Matthews fired at NBC for
    a mistake about Pres. Chelsea Clinton? And does he get to anchor the Nightly News in between?

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    1. I think you have Chris The Killer mixed up with Chris the Puppy. White guys all look alike. They are beautiful kids, though.

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    2. Obviously, Rather was ousted for attacking Bush not Nixon.

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    3. I thought Rather was ousted for being a senile old codger.

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    4. Rather got the most heat for citing evidence challenging GHWB's claim that he was "out of the loop", with no knowledge, when it came to Iran-Contra. Bush then chastised Rather for having recently walked off the set as an employee protest. Conservatives thought it an insult that Bush's story would be questioned.

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    5. @12:26

      Libs currently think it an insult to investigate Her Majesty HRC's bizarre insistence on using a private email server stashed in her Chappaqua cellar that contains secret information.

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    6. "stashed in her Chappaqua cellar"

      jackass

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  6. This was a big high-profile disaster for "The New York Times." It was also a reminder of the utterly bizarre relationship that the national media has with Hillary Clinton specifically.

    Basically in the national media, everything Hillary Clinton does is a scandal, right? Remember when she was super guilty in Whitewater? Hillary Clinton is covered as if she is a convicted felon, right, who has to prove her innocence every time she is accused of something. And even then, she is still guilty. She`s just got away with it. That`s basically the attitude of the whole national press with Hillary Clinton for this whole phase of her national political career.

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  7. The New York Times defense of this Hillary Clinton story, this fiasco that they`ve had with the Hillary Clinton e-mail story, their explanation on what they got wrong here, how it all went wrong, it sounds very, very similar, almost identical to the Judith Miller defense. They are saying, quote, "We got it wrong because our very good sources had
    it wrong." that`s according to a New York Times editor. The reporters and editors on the story are not at fault. Their sources were wrong. Those anonymous senior government officials who told "The Times" there was a criminal referral in to Hillary Clinton when there was
    none. "The Times" says they probably couldn`t have done anything
    differently. Not our fault, sources were wrong. What`s our responsibility
    for that? The senior government officials whose names we as readers cannot know, whose agendas we cannot evaluate, The New York Times is arguing their sources are to blame so they couldn`t have known. Except it is the job of a news organization to vet the accuracy and the authenticity of their sources, and you are to blame for the fake stuff that your sources get you to print.

    And no, this is not a matter of war and peace like last time with "The New York Times" and Judith Miller. This is just a matter of who maybe the next president of the United States.

    They are screwing this up in the same way they have screwed up even more serious stuff in the past and they should have figured it out by now.

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    1. Considering the FBI only does criminal investigations, how will libs spin the current FBI investigation into what extent Clinton relied on her home server and other private devices to send and store classified documents,

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  8. It's an embarrassing performance by the host.

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    1. In a world which wasn’t a scam it seemed utterly clueless.

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  9. Go to hell, Lisa.

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  17. My name is Christina Terri!!! i am very grateful sharing this great testimonies with you, The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how i win the lottery. I am a woman who believe that one day i will win the lottery.finally my dreams came through when i email Dr Osauyi. and tell him i need the lottery numbers. i have come a long way spending money on ticket just to make sure i win. But i never know that winning was so easy until the day i meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great in casting lottery spell, so i decide to give it a try.I contacted this man and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers. But believe me when the draws were out i was among winners. i win 1.900.000 million Dollar. Dr. Osauyi truly you are the best, with these man you can will millions of money through lottery. i am so very happy to meet these man, i will forever be grateful to you. Email him for your own winning lottery numbers Osauyilotteryspell@yahoo.com OR call him +2347064293495. Christina Terri from U.S.A...

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  18. am sanjeeta from UK I want to use this opportunity to sharing this great testimonies with you to all the viewers in the world, The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how i win the lottery. I am a woma who believe that one day i will win the lottery.finally my dreams came through when i email dr.clement and tell him i need the lottery numbers.i have come a long way spending money on ticket just to make sure i win. But i never know that winning was so easy until the day i meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great in casting lottery spell, so i decide to give it a try.I contacted this man and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers. But believe me when the draws were out i was among winners. i win $15 million. dr.clement truly you are the best, with these man you can will millions of money through lottery. so contact him if you want to winning this same way i win,is email drakugbespellhome@gmail.com or call via +254704881207

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  19. My Name is Alan Pratte, From USA. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr OTIS DARKO has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called Sharon we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant for me and also give her al she needs she left me and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email: otisdarko60@yahoo.com then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost WIFE back, and after a month she became pregnant for me because he gave me some herbs to take also and when she went for a test and the result stated that she was pregnant am happy today am a FATHER of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR OTIS DARKO for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

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  20. i am Mrs. Louey Jona from new York. i want to use this medium to congratulate Dr MOMODU for the great help of spell he has render to my relationship outbreak. since the past 4 months i was in a relationship problem with my ex, he always get me beating, i never knew he has another girl outside the town, her name is merable, until i got this great spell caster email address from the internet, so i email him and i laid all my complain to him, he promise me that i am going to get my ex back. and i really agreed on it, but on a condition that i will testify abut him once my ex is back which i did his great oracle, his plan for my relationship was fulfill and my lost ex was back again within 48hrs... please if you are in such mess today please contact him at drmomoduspelltemple@yahoo.com OR drmomoduspelltemple@hotmail.com DR. Momodu for the excessive work that he has done for me. his Via web sit: http://drmomoduspelltempl.wix.com/http OR you can call him with number +15306253704

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  21. Hello all my viewers My name is Elizabeth from USA! I am very happy for sharing this great testimonies,The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how I win the lottery euro million mega jackpot.I am a woman who believe that one day I will win the lottery.finally my dreams came through when I email Dr clement and tell him I need the lottery numbers.I have spend so much money on ticket just to make sure I win.But I never know that winning of the lotto was not easy until the day I meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great lottery spell caster,so I decide to give it a try.I contacted him and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers.But believe me when the draws were out I was among winners.I won three million usd dollar with the power of Dr clement truly you are the best,with the great Dr you can win of money through lottery I am so very happy to meet the great Dr clement,I will be forever be grateful to you dr clement in case you need your own winning lottery numbers you can contact him drakugbespellhome1@gmail.com or call him for your own help to win your own via +2347061824880.post by Elizabeth From Florida city (USA)thanks for your reading.he can also help any one who have any kind of problem like 1 cancer cure 2 diabetes cure 3 wining of lotto 4 herpes cure 5 warts cure 6 HPV cure 7 get your ex back 8 pregnancy herbal medicine

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