Stomaching Comey is hard: In our previous post, we discussed two different liberal approaches to James B. Comey.
Dave Weigel wrote the report we cited from the Washington Post. Along with the major Dems we already mentioned, he also quoted Neera Tanden:
WEIGEL (4/18/18): Many Democrats said they had ignored Comey’s TV interviews. While praising the former director personally—they would not, like Trump, attack his character—they asked whether it made sense for a man who’d committed historic blunders to seek a new role as a martyr.Did Tanden "praise the former director personally?" Everything is possible, but it sounds unlikely to us.
“Personally, I couldn’t stomach watching him,” said Neera Tanden, the president of the Center for American Progress and a former Clinton staff member. “I read the transcript; isn’t that enough? He doesn’t need to be a hero to be a victim of an obstruction of justice.”
Comey is posing as a hero, Tanden said. She couldn't stomach watching him do that. Watching him would have been hard.
That isn't Comey's reading of Comey. Tanden's reading is hard!
Historically, going back to J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI allegedly had extra-Constitutional power, because he had the dirt on the President and others. For that reason, Presidents didn't go to war with the FBI. Trump did. And the FBI struck back. Comey used a dodgy Democratic-financed dossier and an illegal leak to drum up a special prosecutor against Trump. The SP has, in effect, the power to investigate anything he chooses to.
ReplyDeleteIMHO Comey believes he was using his extra-Constitutional power for good. He limited the investigation of Hillary's e-mails in a way that allowed her to remain as the candidate. He re-opened the investigation for what he considered praise-worthy political considerations. That turned out to be a blunder, when Trump was elected, but Comey's aim was good, as he understood good.
Comey seems not to understand that it was improper to use his extra-Constitutional power for good. He wasn't supposed to use this power at all. He was just supposed to fight crime.
This may or may not be true - what is true is that you offer nothing to substantiate this conclusion. Not true. Not true. Not true. Not true.
DeleteHe may or may not believe this- since you're not a mindreader, you don't know for sure. Not true. Not true. Yes it did, but being a blindly-obvious Trumptroll, you of all people don't know what his aim was.
This is word salad. This is nonsense. This is a most constricted and childish view of the FBI's function.
Your humble opinion is unsubstantiated partisan nonsense.
DeleteGreg and 12:49, don't you think it's telling that the Head of the FBI deliberately broke the law to leak material that would harm Trump?
DeleteIf he broke the law to leak something, why hasn't he been arrested?
DeleteWe only have Trump's word that he leaked anything. We know what that's worth.
12:49 here.
DeleteYou are being purposefully vague.
Perhaps you're grasping at straws for a "gotcha" moment after stewing for nearly half a day about your abysmal fail at 11:18.
However, if you're referring to the leaked memo of approximately a year ago, that was more flailing by the Tweeter in Chief and his loyal orangipods like yourself than it was significant:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-comeys-leak-memos-totally-illegal/.
What might be telling is that even while Trump was supposedly elected to inject strength and fearlessness into the White House, Trump's erstwhile defenders feel the continual need to protect him and lie for him, as though he is a frightened weakling, constantly needing protection from the big, bad world.
I notice, time and time again, that when David in Cal makes conclusory comments like these and is called out on them, He mimics Brave Sir Robin.
DeleteEh, Bob, let this psycho sell his book, make a coupla mills, and fade into obscurity. Leave him alone already.
ReplyDeleteSimilar to letting you shovel your Russian manure, make a couple kopeks, and hopefully fade into obscurity?
DeleteHmmmm... looks like I provoked someone again. I would say chances that the pee tape are real and that these alternate “Greg” posts are actually written by Bob are roughly equal.
ReplyDeleteComey was unable to bring any investigation to a close in a finite length of time, and that seems to have had constitutional implications for U.S. politics.
ReplyDeleteOur pundit class loves to talk sex, of course, but they also feed on investigations that never end, never come to a conclusion, are apparently not designed to come to a conclusion.
I think it is possible to lay out an investigative strategy that applies resources to a answering a question, even a controversial one. (If you want an over-thought-out-one, you can look to the OPCW "mechanism" and its investigations on-going in Syria.)
I never see any indication that Comey was familiar with the concept or used such a concept in mandating the objectives and scope of the investigation of Clinton's email server, or the Steele dossier on Trump, or any other matter.
It isn't just that wisps of suspicion of smoke and rumors of sex sell in the media; there is also an institutional problem in the agencies that investigate and Comey is symptomatic of that problem. And, the pundit class seems blissfully unaware that the problem is a problem, taking their plentiful opportunities to speculate up a dust cloud and call it smoke, obscuring what few facts may accidentally emerge.
"I think it is possible to lay out an investigative strategy that applies resources to a answering a question, even a controversial one."
DeleteWhat are you talking about, it's politics. The answer is known, the question is how to arrive at that answer, protecting some and damaging others as much as possible.
"I think it is possible to lay out an investigative strategy that applies resources to a answering a question, even a controversial one."
DeleteNot sure what you would suggest. Have you yourself ever tried to investigate a crime and produce evidence that meets the appropriate standards? Especially in cases like the Steele dossier, you are dealing with people who are good at covering their tracks and very complex interactions that are difficult to unravel.
Although Comey was wrong to make public statements about the Hillary investigation, he did close the case.
And how long is too long? When did the FBI first get its hands on the Steele dossier?
"any"?
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ReplyDeleteThe right wing and Somerby both keep saying that the Steele dossier was funded by Clinton and the DNC. That is not strictly true. It was first commissioned and funded by one of the Trump's Republican opponents during the primaries. When Clinton became the nominee, she and the DNC took over the funding of the project.
ReplyDeleteThe most important information in the Steele dossier is not the pee tape. It is the quid pro quo between Trump's campaign and Russian hackers and oligarchs to influence the election in Trump's favor in exchange for relaxing the sanctions imposed after invasion of the Crimea. This is the same topic that was discussed in Trump tower and much of that portion of the dossier has been confirmed.
All of the investigations against Hillary Clinton were concluded and no evidence of wrongdoing was found in any of them, no charges recommended, etc. New investigations were started because it was politically useful to have them ongoing in order to chant "lock her up" and continue to call her corrupt if she was still being investigated. This is understandably confusing to Republican supporters of Trump, who believe that she is being let off the hook somehow because no one ever told them she has been repeatedly exonerated.
When Comey made his statement, he was continuing the pretense that Hillary was still under investigation -- even though all the Clinton/Abedin messages on Weiner's computer were duplicates of ones already reviewed by the FBI and found to be innocuous. How can Clinton remove the taint of corruption and lying if the head of the FBI makes a statement that she is still under investigation? This did nothing to help Clinton and any claim that it was motivated to help her is specious. Comey was trying to appease the faction within the FBI (in the New York office) that wanted charges brought against Hillary.
Steele gave his dossier to the FBI in early summer of 2016 because he was concerned about the threat to the US election, had informed his clients of it and nothing was being done. I still do not understand why Obama isn't being blamed for ignoring the dossier and not informing the American people about what constitutes a plot between a Russian mob-infiltrated candidate and an enemy government. But I didn't vote for Obama precisely because he doesn't have the temperament to do anything particularly decisive, even with the country under threat like this.
"The right wing and Somerby both keep saying that the Steele dossier was funded by Clinton and the DNC."
ReplyDeleteYou left out the pseudo-progressives. There's not a millimeter's difference between them and the alt-right Trumpies.
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