BROKEN: The Atlantic discusses the new Naep scores!

MONDAY, APRIL 16, 2018

As always, a gloomy assertion:
No sooner had the new Naep scores appeared than The Atlantic published a hard-hitting essay by Natalie Wexler.

Wikipedia describes Wexler as "an education journalist, novelist and historian." As has long required by Hard Pundit Law, she offered gloomy thoughts about the work of the public schools over the past twenty years.

Below, you see the start of Wexler's essay, gloomy headline included:
WEXLER (4/13/18): Why American Students Haven't Gotten Better at Reading in 20 Years

Every two years, education-policy wonks gear up for what has become a time-honored ritual: the release of the Nation’s Report Card. Officially known as the National Assessment of Educational Progress, or NAEP, the data reflect the results of reading and math tests administered to a sample of students across the country. Experts generally consider the tests rigorous and highly reliable—and the scores basically stagnant.

Math scores have been flat since 2009 and reading scores since 1998,
with just a third or so of students performing at a level the NAEP defines as “proficient.” Performance gaps between lower-income students and their more affluent peers, among other demographic discrepancies, have remained stubbornly wide.

Among the likely culprits for the stalled progress in math scores: a misalignment between what the NAEP tests and what state standards require teachers to cover at specific grade levels. But what’s the reason for the utter lack of progress in reading scores?
We'll assume that Wexler didn't write the headline. That said, the headline captures the essence of her piece, in which she offers her expert views as to why "reading scores have been flat since 1998."

Have reading scores on the Naep been flat since 1998? That sounded a bit unlikely to us, so we decided to check. For reasons any expert would understand, we reviewed Grade 8.

(On the so-called "Main Naep" test, students are tested across the nation in Grades 4, 8 and 12. Kids in grade 8 are older than kids in Grade 4. Comparisons are tricky at Grade 12 due to lower dropout rates. Everybody understands this latter point, even Arne Duncan.)

Have reading scores been flat since 1998? For starters—and this is just a start—here are the overall average scores for the years in question, plus the percentages of kids deemed to be "proficient" (or higher):
Average scores/percentages deemed proficient
Public schools, Grade 8 reading, Naep

2017: 265.33 (34.74%)
1998: 260.66 (29.68%)
The score gain could be higher. But that score gain—4.67 points—is roughly equal to half an academic year, according to the very rough rule of thumb normally applied to Naep scores.

(For all Naep data, start here.)

That isn't a giant overall score gain. On the other hand, it was achieved at a time when demographic changes brought new challenges to classrooms.

When the scores are "disaggregated," we see that all major demographic groups achieved a larger score gain than the overall average gain during that 19-year period. (How is that possible? File under "Simpson's Paradox.")

How much have different groups progressed? We wouldn't necessarily call these data "flat:"
Gain in average scores, 1998-2017
Public schools, Grade 8 reading, Naep

All students: 4.67 points
White students: 5.49 points
Black students: 6.34 points
Hispanic students: 13.17 points
Asian/Pacific Islander students: 20.00 points
Again, ten points on the Naep scale is routinely said to be the equivalent of one academic year. All those score gains could be larger, but do those data suggest an "utter lack of progress in reading scores?" Do Hispanic kids count?

We don't know why Wexler offered the gloomy claim about the "utter lack of progress in reading scores." We do know this:

For reasons we can't explain, almost everything you read about major issues, and often about major pols, seems to be written from script. Nowhere has this been more true than in the general area of public school test scores, whether from international or domestic testing programs.

In that general area, it has long been selective presentation, and apparent propaganda, pretty much all the way down.

Chomsky referred to this general phenomenon as a process of "manufactured consent." The public is led to accept the preferred outlook of elites through the process of selective and/or inaccurate presentation.

That was Chomsky's term. By way of contrast, we refer to this as "the latest from The Atlantic."

Earlier today, a friend suggested that we write a letter to the editor of The Atlantic. Incomparably, we responded like this:
Letters don't work. Neither do blog posts, comments in comment threads, op-ed columns in real newspapers, or acts of self-immolation.

Our public discourse runs on script. (Chomsky called the process "manufactured consent.") I don't know exactly how to explain this group dynamic, but nothing ever derails it, and all corrections get thrown away or ignored.

My take-away from the past twenty years: we aren't living on the planet the civics textbooks describe.

As a matter of anthropology, this is a fascinating discovery. In terms of citizenship, the implications are gloomy and rather clear.
Just to complete the record: Wexler was mainly interested in reading scores and reading instruction, but she characterized math scores too.

Just to complete the record, here are the score gains in math since 1996. During the 1990s, math and reading were tested in different years:
Gain in average scores, 1996-2017
Public schools, Grade 8 math, Naep

All students: 13.16 points
White students: 12.66 points
Black students: 20.32 points
Hispanic students: 19.31 points
Asian/Pacific Islander: 21.78 points (since 2000)
Scores have been flat in recent years, but this follows a period of very large gains. Around the world, it has seemed to be easier to create gains in math than in reading.

The public is essentially never told about public school score gains. We all know Chomsky is nuts, of course. But until Arne Duncan recently chirped, it seemed that presentation of data like these simply wasn't allowed.

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  1. The term "manufactured consent" comes from the phrase "the manufacture of consent," employed in the book Public Opinion (1922), by Walter Lippmann

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    1. Chomsky is a great man, but let's be fair. Edward Herman was the lead author of "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media", because he did most of the work. And Anon 2:30PM is correct. Herman and Chomsky borrowed the idea, "the manufacture of consent", from "Public Opinion", with one little difference: Walter Lippmann was in favor of it!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book)#Manufacture_of_consent

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    2. There was never any doubt, imp.

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    3. impCaesarAvg,

      In crediting Herman, Chomsky, not altogether graciously, distances himself from a theory which is imperfectly presented in Manufacturing Consent (1988) and which Chomsky claims to have objected to before the book went to press. Here's Chomsky in 1997 speaking on this point in response to the question posed to him at the 1:39:56 mark of this YouTube video LINK. [Hopefully, I have it cued up to start playing at the right place.]

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    4. CMike, thanks for the link. You cued it up perfectly. I found Chomsky thoroughly gracious. I recommend that whole Youtube video.

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  2. Bob, dear. This is such a trivial subject (like most of what attracts your attention) that it hardly falls under the rubric of "manufacturing consent".

    1993 NAFTA 'debate' was "manufacturing consent". So was conditioning the population for a big war in 2003. But this one is just another bullshit liberal 'issue'.

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    1. Comrade, your post-Stalin socialist ideology is starting to show. Maybe you're bored with your script again.

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    2. Moy malen'kin pushistyy medved is distracted by Maksim Borodin's sudden death. Borodin was an investigative reporter in Russia.

      Pushistyy medved,do you believe Borodin's death was a suicide, or did Prigozhim murder him, either on his own or at the behest of President Putin?

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  3. While articles like these may encourage the public to believe that the public schools in general are doing a poor job, the opposite is true at the local level. Most parents (over 70%) are highly satisfied with the job being done by their local public school. This is partly because their daily experience contradicts that gloomier national narrative. They see their kids learning, they see the efforts of their kids' teachers and the administrators at their schools and they are happy with that progress.

    If this gloomy national narrative prevailed, there wouldn't be the broad support for the red state teacher strikes occurring over the past several weeks. But that support has helped teachers to achieve their goals and made those strikes successful. If the parents were unhappy, no teacher's strike would occur because the climate wouldn't support it.

    So, Bob, you are prematurely giving up. Your letter to the editor might not change editorial policy at The Atlantic, but it might give moral support to the teachers and parents working hard at local levels to achieve those gains you describe above.

    By the way, cognitive psychologists know why the reading scores are harder to change than the math scores, worldwide.

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  4. "Letters don't work. Neither do blog posts, comments in comment threads, op-ed columns in real newspapers, or acts of self-immolation."

    Somerby has free speech and can say whatever he wishes, but he sounds particularly callous when he includes "acts of self immolation" in this laundry list of mundane activities as if it were not a desperate and horrific action.

    No bitterness justifies reducing a man's death to the level of a letter to the editor.

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  5. Reading scores have increased since 1998, just the way Somerby says. He says the gains could have been higher...by how much? Is there some agreed-upon or desirable target gain?

    The black-white gap is almost unchanged in 20 years. That seems to be a continuing problem. Can it be fixed?

    Do the test questions change or do they remain identical over time? That could affect the validity of the results. Somerby has called the NAEP the "gold standard", but is that a valid assumption?

    Somerby talked about Duncan's report a week or two ago. Duncan cited test score gains to claim that "school reform" has worked. Somerby seemed to disapprove of the whole idea of school reform. But can he explain the increase in test scores? Are teachers teaching to the test perhaps? Can you really rule out the efficacy of any specific reform idea without a thorough, logical analysis?

    Aside from listing data showing increasing test scores, which Somerby has been doing for years, and which does arguably show positive results, what is the underlying point he is trying to make? That the media won't tell you about the gains? Fine, but that doesn't really address the schools themselves.

    Some schools have dire problems. Some solutions may be best left to local districts, others may suggest national efforts. The NAEP itself is a national test administered by the US Department of Education. Without it, would we even be able to measure anything about our schools, and would Somerby have any data to post endlessly?

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    1. Don't bother asking...it's futile. Besides, no one cares.

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  6. "Letters don't work. Neither do blog posts, comments in comment threads, op-ed columns in real newspapers, or acts of self-immolation."

    Therefore, I, Bob Somerby, choose to do one of those things which doesn't work, blogging.

    In Somerby's world, what does work? Those kids marching for gun reform? Just a sign of liberal failure. Heaven only knows what he would have said if MLK were organizing his marches today.

    "The Republicans have won. Time to throw in the towel, liberals. "

    Words apparently have no real value to Somerby. Moral persuasion can actually have an impact. Most people know that. But I suppose it explains Somerby's dispiriting vitriol. If words don't really work, then why not go all in on the mean-spirited bile?

    But Somerby would rather plant his butt down in Starbucks every day to write his snarky and apparently futile blog posts. Why bother?

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    1. Does the same go for you? Why bother commenting on his futile posts? He's not going to stop writing what he writes. Have your comments had any affect on what he is posted over these years? Is the time you spend remonstrating worth it? One wonders why you bother. Let me know why. Thanks,

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    2. Somerby is the one who claimed that blogging is useless. I did not make that claim, nor do I believe it. Somerby is the one undermining himself here. He used to do good work, years ago. Now, even he admits his efforts are useless. And in the process, he puts out a lot of hateful, inaccurate stuff. He could do so much more beneficial work than he does, if he actually believed in anything.

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    3. Thanks for responding. I know his tone really hurts you and offends you. It must really feel bad knowing that the work could be more beneficial. Especially in these trying, important times.

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    4. You seem to have been triggered by the critical comment to comment on the comment. Your beef seems to be with the commenter. Whereas the commenter is merely asking Somerby a rhetorical question that his own blog post raised. Why bother doing something that doesn't work?

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    5. I see. That makes sense. Thank you.

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    6. Love the interesting discussion about education that Bob's post about education and the futility of blogging has produced.

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    7. I'm glad you like it Anon 6:34. Hope you are having a good day. Wishing you the best.

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    9. I don't know what you mean but I can honestly tell you that I am not the real spell caster, whatever that is! Is that one of your new superhero movies?

      Young people love those movies so much these days.

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  7. Somerby's use of the term "disaggregate" and his characterization of the gains in specific racial groups being higher than the overall gain as akin to a "paradox" is silly.

    If you understand anything about the term "average", and how it is calculated, it is not a mystery that specific race scores have gone up more than the overall average score.

    The overall average is simply the sum of all scores divided by the total number of test takers.

    The average for a given race is the sum of test scores for students of that race divided by the number of test takers of that race.

    The overall score is affected by the number of students having lower/higher scores.

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  10. "But until Arne Duncan recently chirped, it seemed that presentation of data like these simply wasn't allowed"

    From TDH in 2016:

    (http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2016/09/where-naep-scores-are-truly-spectacular.html?m=0)

    Refers to Richard Rothstein's 2011 article in Slate that says, among other things:
    "ROTHSTEIN (8/29/11): Central to the reformers' argument is the claim that radical change is essential because student achievement (especially for minority and disadvantaged children) has been flat or declining for decades. This is, however, false. The only consistent data on student achievement come from a federal sample, the National Assessment of Educational Progress. Though you would never know it from the state of public alarm about education, the numbers show that regular public school performance has skyrocketed in the last two decades to the point that, for example, black elementary school students now have better math skills than whites had only 20 years ago."

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  13. Save Your Relationship and Get Your Ex Boyfriend/Girlfriend Back!contact: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com is certainly the best spell caster online and his result is 100% guarantee.
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  17. How I Got My Ex Husband Back........... I am Elena by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address salvationlovespell@gmail.com , have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 2 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for Dr. Paul . His email: salvationlovespell@gmail.com or whatsApp him +2349051441669

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  19. I came to this site just to testify to one powerful man that brought my lover back to me within the period of 48 hours, Whose name and contact information are Dr.Akpada and you can contact him via (akpadatemple@hotmail.com) or watssap +27844130246 . At first i never believe that he will ever be able to bring back my lover to me but today through the help of Dr.Akpada myself and my lover are back together

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  20. I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until i met this special spell caster when i went to Africa to Execute some business. He is really powerful. My husband divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have him back cos i really love him so much but all my effort did not work out, we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and he woke up one morning and he told me he’s going on a divorce, i thought it was a joke and when he came back from work he tender to me a divorce letter and he packed all his belonging from my house and left. i ran mad and i tried all i could to have him back but all did not work out. I was lonely for almost 4 year, So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for his full name and his picture. I gave him that. At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos i have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution, so when he finished with the readings, he got back to me that he’s with a woman and that woman is the reason why he left me, The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring him back, but i never believe all this he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days. 3 days later, he called me himself and came to me apologizing and he told me he will come back to me. I can't believe this, it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution. The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and i got pregnant a month later, we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid. This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him, he has helped many of my friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him. This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster i have ever experienced in life. Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out.. you can reach him here: drosebuluspellhome@gmail.com CONTACT THIS POWERFUL SPELL CASTER TODAY VIA EMAIL: drosebuluspellhome@gmail.com or on +2348083221034

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  22. Getting back together with your ex-lover is sometimes very challenging and I failed it many times after my husband left me and we were separated. But after I read about Dr. Oranitutu. [dr.oranitutu@gmail.com]. I decided to get in contact with him and when he replied my mail, I discovered it was so easy for me to get my husband back within 24 hours with love spell for free. That's how I got my husband back for free after 2 years of separation. You can also contact him at dr.oranitutu@gmail.com or call +2348103710768. He can also help you out if you are having any kind of spiritual afflictions or suffering from spiritually inflicted sicknesses. www.droranitutu.wixsite.com/spellcaster

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  23. When I found Dr. Olu I was in desperate need of bringing my ex lover back. He left me for another woman. It happened so fast and I had no say in the situation at all. He just dumped me after 3 years with no explanation. I contact Dr. Olu through his website and He told me me what i need to do before he can help me and i did what he told me to, after i provided what he wanted, he cast a love spell to help us get back together. Shortly after he did his spell, my boyfriend started texting me again and felt horrible for what he just put me through. He said that I was the most important person in his life and he knows that now. We moved in together and he was more open to me than before and he started spending more time with me than before. Ever since Dr. Olu helped me, my partner is very stable, faithful and closer to me than before. I highly recommends Dr. Olu to anyone in need of help. Email: drolusolutiontemple11@gmail.com, drolusolutiontemple@yahoo.com. Call him or add him on whatsapp via: +2349063791821 Website Page: https://drolusolutiontemple.wordpress.com/ DR. OLU BLOG PAGE: https://drolutemple1.blogspot.com





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  24. I'm Wasna Matkaw. I'm from USA, When I eventually found testimonies about this spell caster Dr iyaryi how he helped many people to get their lovers and broken homes back, i contacted him through his email address (driayaryi2012@hotmail.com) because my boyfriend whom i really love with all my heart and also love me too, but suddenly change and turned his back on me and hated me with passion I was absolutely desperate to get my boyfriend back. Life without my boyfriend was a real mess for me and my parent I wanted a dramatic change and I thought magic could be the solution. After discussing the resolution with Dr ayaryi he gave me hope that he will restore my relationship back because he already engaged me. I felt confident that he will actually make my boyfriend to return home and he did! It’s fantastic what this great spell caster have done for me, his help is priceless! I don't know what I would have done without Dr ayaryi does his job so well he is organized and highly functional, i believe he is the best spell caster i can count on when it comes to all kinds of spell, I was floored that his spells worked, if you need help, contact him (driayaryi2012@hotmail.com) I assure you things will turn around for you.. And also Reach him on WhatsApp Number: +2349057915709 Thanks Dr. Iyaryi

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  25. This is a true life experience with Doctor Covenant who helped me save my marriage by doing a pregnancy spell for me. My name is jenny clouds and i from somalia but currently live in manchester . my husband and i have been married for over 6 years. We didn't have any children. My husband was not happy with this because we have tried for many years now to have a child that we thought of adopting but the idea wasn't the best for us. my husband even talked about divorce!! i was scared to loose my husband.3 months after my husband started talking about divorce, i saw a post on facebook which taled about a spell caster on how he helpes people from various problems and his name was Dr Covenant. I sent a mail to him through his email address covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com, I explained everything to him and he told me not to worry. i was over excited, he comforted me with his words, he told me that we are going to do a pregnancy spell, i was scared but i had no choice. he told me what to do and i did it. he actually did the pregnancy spell, he gave me assurance that i will become pregnant in 2 days, i thought he was joking. this is the 11th month after meeting Dr Covenant, now i have a set of twins, a boy and a girl. God bless you Dr Covenant, thank you for what you have done for me, Please contact and meet Doctor Covenant if you are passing through any difficulty in life like the one i was passing through contact covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com or call or add him on watsapp on +2349057353987. there are still real people out there helping people. covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com is one of them.he also help in lottery winning too, if you want to win lottery now also contact him

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  26. After being in relationship with markiss for seven years,he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to someone online and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened, that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him, that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem and who is different from all the fake ones out there. Anybody could need the help of the spell caster, his email: drosemudiamenspellhome@gmail.com you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or anything. I CAN NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: drosemudiamenspellhome@gmail.com CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEM

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  27. Hello viewers my name is Adams Vera from USA. I got married ten years ago to the cutest and caring husband; we were blessed with two kids. We had the best home until my husband started behaving awkwardly last year. it was then i discovered that he was seeing another woman. our marriage moved from bad to worse until he eventually left the home with the kids. He took away my home and happiness. i had lived with sorrow, rejection and pain ever since then. My friend Kate tried to make me happy and stop me from brooding but i could not get through the incidence. it was then my friend introduced DR. SAM to me, she told me he could solve all marital and health problems. we contacted him online and i narrated my story to him. The rest is story because i am now back with my family, living happily than ever all thanks to DR. SAM who gave me back my home, happiness and hope. You can also contact him for ur marital and health problem contact DR. SAM through his email address: miraclefertilitysolutiontempl1@gmail.com or miraclefertilitysolutiontemple@yahoo.com or through
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  28. Hello viewers my name is Adams Vera from USA. I got married ten years ago to the cutest and caring husband; we were blessed with two kids. We had the best home until my husband started behaving awkwardly last year. it was then i discovered that he was seeing another woman. our marriage moved from bad to worse until he eventually left the home with the kids. He took away my home and happiness. i had lived with sorrow, rejection and pain ever since then. My friend Kate tried to make me happy and stop me from brooding but i could not get through the incidence. it was then my friend introduced DR. SAM to me, she told me he could solve all marital and health problems. we contacted him online and i narrated my story to him. The rest is story because i am now back with my family, living happily than ever all thanks to DR. SAM who gave me back my home, happiness and hope. You can also contact him for ur marital and health problem contact DR. SAM through his email address: miraclefertilitysolutiontempl1@gmail.com or miraclefertilitysolutiontemple@yahoo.com or through
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  29. My name is Sumaila Joy , My Ex-Husband dumped me two weeks ago after I
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  30. My name is Sumaila Joy , My Ex-Husband dumped me two weeks ago after I
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    are about to get married.
    Once again thank you Priest Vudu,

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  31. When I found Dr. Olu I was in desperate need of bringing my ex lover back. He left me for another woman. It happened so fast and I had no say in the situation at all. He just dumped me after 3 years with no explanation. I contact Dr. Olu through his website and He told me me what i need to do before he can help me and i did what he told me to, after i provided what he wanted, he cast a love spell to help us get back together. Shortly after he did his spell, my boyfriend started texting me again and felt horrible for what he just put me through. He said that I was the most important person in his life and he knows that now. We moved in together and he was more open to me than before and he started spending more time with me than before. Ever since Dr. Olu helped me, my partner is very stable, faithful and closer to me than before. I highly recommends Dr. Olu to anyone in need of help. Email: drolusolutiontemple11@gmail.com, drolusolutiontemple@yahoo.com. Call him or add him on whatsapp via: +2348067704010 Website Page: https://drolusolutiontemple.wordpress.com/ DR. OLU BLOG PAGE: https://drolutemple1.blogspot.com




    When I found Dr. Olu I was in desperate need of bringing my ex lover back. He left me for another woman. It happened so fast and I had no say in the situation at all. He just dumped me after 3 years with no explanation. I contact Dr. Olu through his website and He told me me what i need to do before he can help me and i did what he told me to, after i provided what he wanted, he cast a love spell to help us get back together. Shortly after he did his spell, my boyfriend started texting me again and felt horrible for what he just put me through. He said that I was the most important person in his life and he knows that now. We moved in together and he was more open to me than before and he started spending more time with me than before. Ever since Dr. Olu helped me, my partner is very stable, faithful and closer to me than before. I highly recommends Dr. Olu to anyone in need of help. Email: drolusolutiontemple11@gmail.com, drolusolutiontemple@yahoo.com. Call him or add him on whatsapp via: +2348067704010 Website Page: https://drolusolutiontemple.wordpress.com/ DR. OLU BLOG PAGE: https://drolutemple1.blogspot.com

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  32. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr.Kala has just done for me, this man has just brought back my Ex husband to me with his great spell, i and my husband have been married for 12yrs now and we loved each other but when i was unable to give him a child he left me October 2017 and told me he can’t continue anymore. I have cried and beg for him to come back but he refuse, then i was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine tell me about this man called Dr Kala and give me his contact email (kalalovespell@gmail.com) and told me he can help me restore my marriage.I contact him and explain my problem to him and he told me he is going to get my husband back to me within 24hrs and guarantee me of good result and i told him to go ahead with the spell and after 24hrs just as Dr Kala said my husband came back to me and beg me to forgive him for the pains he has caused me for the past 2 months of separation. Dr Kala also gave me some medication to help me get pregnant and behold its almost a months since i use the medication and i just got confirmation now that am a week pregnant after 12yrs of no child and right now my husband is more lovely and caring and he treats me like an egg. I am so greatful to Dr Kala for the help he render to me and the good work he is doing for people and i will continue to publish his name on the net for people to see and also get help from him. You can contact Dr Kala on his email: kalalovespell@gmail.com or you can call and whatsapp him on +2347051705853

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  33. hello everyone out there am here to tell you about this great man who helped me when the whole world was against me,my husband left me for another woman and i loved this man so much i was confused didnt know what to do untill i met this great man who helped me so if you are out there and you are having issues with your ex or you having any other problems be it sickness anything that needs a spell caster you can contact this man and your problems will be solved trust me i know what am talking about.here is how you can contact him through his email. prophetkalito@gmail.com.
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  34. I am Mrs Unice from Australia, i want to share a testimony of my life to every one. i was married to my husband George Vega, i love him so much we have been married for the past 8 years now with two kids. when he went for a vacation to France he meant a lady called Mary, he told me that he is no longer interested in the marriage any more. i was so confuse and seeking for help, i don't know what to do until I met my friend miss pasha and told her about my problem. she told me not to worry about it that she had a similar problem before and introduce me to a man called Dr UZOYA love spell who cast a spell on his ex and bring him back to her after 2 days. Miss pasha ask me to contact Dr UZOYA love spell for help. I contacted him to help me bring back my husband and he ask me not to worry about it that the gods of his four -fathers will fight for me. He told me by two days he will re-unite me and my husband together. After two day my husband called and told me he is coming back to sought out things with me, I was surprise when I saw him and he started crying for forgiveness. Right now I am the happiest woman on earth for what this great spell caster did for me and my husband, you can contact Dr UZOYA email; driraborspellcaster@gmail.com .He is the best spell caster who is very capable to help you his telephone number is +13019098775

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  35. Hello everyone

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