Mueller's top cable translator: Robert J. Mueller—"Mueller the Royal"—made an eight-minute statement on Wednesday. We refer to him as "Mueller the Royal" because of his absurd request that he not have to testify to Congress.
In this request, Mueller the Royal joins Comey the God, helping us see what tends to happen when Establishment Washington spends years insisting that some revered individual is "the most upright person now living."
Luckily, no one is above the law in the United States! For that reason, we can still hope that Mueller will be required to testify—not just about his investigation, but also about his interactions with Attorney General Barr.
On the other hand, why bother? Cable news now offers an array of self-brainwashed "Mueller translators"—robots who can tell us exactly what Mueller thinks and believes. They're especially common on MSNBC, most strikingly on the astonishing show, Deadline: White House.
The top such "Mueller translator" is Nicolle Wallace, the former gay-baiting/war-affirming Bush 43 hand who now propagandizes liberals for a healthy corporate pay check. (Despite everyone's love of transparency, you aren't allowed to know how big that pay check is.)
Through gifts which have been bestowed by the gods, Wallace is able to translate every word Mueller says. On Thursday's show, she signed on to an embarrassing bit of interpretation which her "favorite reporters and friends" had been developing ever since Mueller spoke the day before.
The translation involves Mueller's use of a common word—"when." Below, we highlight his crucial use of that word, exactly as the word was used early in Wednesday's statement:
MUELLER (5/29/19): These indictments contain allegations and we are not commenting on the guilt or the innocence of any specific defendant. Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.As you probably know if you watch "cable news," the Mueller translators have found great meaning in his use of the key word "when." Here's what these interpretive giants have deduced:
The indictments allege, and the other activities in our report describe, efforts to interfere in our political system. They needed to be investigated and understood. And that is among the reasons why the Department of Justice established our office.
That is also a reason we investigated efforts to obstruct the investigation. The matters we investigated were of paramount importance. It was critical for us to obtain full and accurate information from every person we questioned. When a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of their government's effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable.
What Mueller translators have deduced:As typically happens with pundit corps mobs, everyone has been standing in line, awaiting his or her chance to repeat this ridiculous statement. These mobs have now made two great deductions during their decades of service:
1) Mueller said "when" when he could have said "if!"
2) This was Mueller's way of saying that Donald J. Trump did, in fact, commit obstruction of justice!
What pundit mobs have deduced:It's almost amusing to see these flyweights make this assertion about Mueller's statement.
1) Al Gore said he invented the Internet!
2) When Mueller said "when" instead of "if," he was saying that Donald J. Trump committed obstruction of justice!
It's almost amusing because these same ridiculous people are constantly praising Mueller, perhaps appropriately, for his vast integrity—and because Mueller has explicitly said that he and his team didn't reach, or even attempt to reach, a judgment about Trump's possible guilt.
Here's more of what Mueller said in Wednesday's statement. How does this square with the pundit corps' rolling assertion that this upright figure has now said that Trump did commit a crime?
MUELLER: And in the second volume, the report describes the results and analysis of our obstruction of justice investigation involving the president. The order appointing me special counsel authorized us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation. We conducted that investigation and we kept the office of the acting attorney general apprised of the progress of our work.You can read the fuller passage yourself. To our ear, the second highlighted statement suggests that Mueller and his team didn't even attempt to "make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime"—that they decided, at the start of their probe, that they wouldn't attempt to do that.
And as set forth in the report, after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime.
[...]
And beyond department policy, we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially—it would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of the actual charge.
So that was Justice Department policy. Those were the principles under which we operated. And from them, we concluded that we would not reach a determination, one way or the other, about whether the president committed a crime. That is the office's final position and we will not comment on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the president.
Unlike the corporate Mueller translators, we won't pretend that we can settle such interpretive matters with certainty. That said, Mueller himself plainly said that he and his team "did not make a determination as to whether" Trump committed a crime.
That's what Mueller explicitly said—but along came Wallace and her glassy-eyed gang of droogs! She, and they, are willing to say, as always in unison, 1) that Mueller is the world's most upright person; 2) that he did determine that Trump obstructed justice; and 3) that he communicated that through his use of the word "when" where he could have said "if" instead.
You have to be a glassy-eyed zombie to offer such an interpretation. Wallace, the Bush-era baby-killer, is just such a true believer.
Wallace "truly believes" in herself—that is to say, in whatever thought has just flitted into her brain. Wallace and her gang of favorite acolytes and friends have hypnotized themselves to the point where she actually went on the TV machine, one day after Mueller spoke, and voiced this strange assessment:
WALLACE (5/30/19): And Harry Litman, as Nick— Everything Nick said is spot-on, but especially this idea that Robert Mueller chose every word so carefully, he really adhered pretty closely to a written statement, and watching him, I watched him a second time last night, he kept going back to it.To watch this prime bullshit, just click here, then advance to the seven-minute mark.
One of the things he says is, "When you obstruct an investigation," leaving no doubt in the viewer or the watcher's mind that he found that Donald Trump had obstructed the investigation, because he referenced when as individual obstructs an investigation, making very clear, I think, today to the public, perhaps for the first time because of all the fog that Attorney General Barr blew into the situation before during and after the Mueller report's release, making it very clear that Donald Trump, if he were anyone else, would have been charged with criminal obstruction of justice.
LITMAN: It's really true...
We should mention one more part of the translator's creed: Robert Mueller chooses his words with tremendous care! For that reason, you can tell he was trying to tell us something when he employed the word "when," not "if!"
Wallace has been aggressively peddling this ridiculous home-made joy juice. According to Wallace, Mueller's use of "when" (instead of "if") "leav[es] no doubt in the viewer or the watcher's mind that he found that Donald Trump had obstructed the investigation."
His use of "when" (instead of "if") makes it "very clear to the public" that Mueller believes that Trump had committed obstruction of justice. We know this because he chooses words carefully, and because he kept reading from his written text!
On its own, that would be an astoundingly silly piece of interpretation. But that glassy-eyed recitation doesn't stand on its own. It exists in a world where Mueller has explicitly said that he and his team didn't reach any such judgment.
I didn't reach a judgment, Mueller has said. But our zombies can see right through that!
Such considerations don't stop our "walking dead" pundits from voicing their favorite claims. Litman proceeded to swear that it was completely obvious that Mueller had in fact reached that judgment about Trump. Wallace then turned to child star Alexi McCammond and offered this:
WALLACE: So Alexi, Mueller, making clear that Donald Trump committed the crime of obstruction, that he was adhering to the DOJ policy that you couldn't indict him...Despite his explicit statement to the contrary, Mueller had been making it clear!
McCammond recited for the elders, as she reliably does. Amazingly, Wallace then played the actual tape of the part of Mueller's statement where he explicitly said that he and his team didn't reach a judgment concerning Trump's possible criminality.
Yes, you read that right. She played the actual tape!
"So that was Justice Department policy," Mueller was shown saying. "Those were the principles under which we operated. And from them, we concluded that we would not reach a determination one way or the other about whether the president committed a crime."
Wallace played that very piece of videotape! But as soon as the tape was done, she proceeded to offer this:
WALLACE: So I'm going to so some parsing here, because that seems to what the Attorney General is engaged in...Barr had been parsing, so Wallace would too! So it goes with these life-forms.
[Mueller] clearly found that it was criminal, and Mueller uses the word "would." We decided that we would not pursue that line of arguing that it was criminal because we were adhering to the Office of Legal Counsel policy memo that says you can't indict a sitting president...
You can watch the fuller statement by Wallace yourself. But even after playing the tape of Mueller's explicit statement, Wallace continued to say that Mueller had in fact reached a determination.
This time, she based her translation on the fact that Mueller said "would" in that piece of tape, while Barr had used the word "could" at one point in his subsequent CBS interview.
No, it didn't make any sense. But these are encounters with glassy-eyed zombies of the cable news kind.
Wallace's interpretive work most closely resembles that of a conventionally attractive android with major wiring problems. She's HAL near the end of 2001. She a glassy-eyed, self-hypnotized droog with the blood of Iraq on her wardrobe.
Having said that, so what? Wallace's favorite reporters and friends crowd around her every day, agreeing with every word she says and thereby earning more air time. Anthropologists tell us that this is what the species was like all along!
On yesterday's Deadline show, Wallace continued to say that Mueller's use of "when" instead of "if" shows that he did determine that Trump committed a crime. Even as she did so, she and her favorites kept portraying Mueller as the world's most upright man, even though he has explicitly made the opposite statement.
Mueller has explicitly said that he didn't reach any such judgment. This doesn't atop MSNBC's Stepford droogs from dumbnifying the liberal world, led by the true-believing baby-killer of greater Iraq.
Major anthropologists keep telling us that this is the way the world ended. At this point, we can't swear that their claim is correct, but these are major future experts and their future despair is apparent as they huddle in caves.
Monday: A puzzling statement by Mueller
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Somerby is unhinged. He exhibits more passion regarding Nicolle Wallace’s reading of Mueller’s press conference then he ever shows about any other subject, including his precious achievement gaps and the fate of black schoolkids.
ReplyDeleteHe calls Wallace the “the Bush-era baby-killer”, after just yesterday recommending an op-Ed by Mark [sic] Thiessen, who could just as aptly be called “the Bush-era baby-killer.” His only book was a defense of torture post-911. The only difference seems to be that Somerby agrees with Thiessen. But that is no reason to sound like a red-faced foot-stomping six-year-old towards Wallace.
Suffice it to say that Mueller did not make a determination, but that “if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”
One might wonder why this particular issue sets Somerby off so severely, but then one ultimately shrugs one’s shoulders and says “who cares, really?”
@1:15 this blog is about media criticism. Faulty media is not as important as actual issues, but that is what Bob has chosen to write about.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder he never writes about "tribalism".
DeleteDavid in CalJune 1, 2019 at 7:24 PM
DeleteIt has been a long time since Bob has written about media criticism. He merely uses it as a guise to bludgeon what he perceives as his enemies.
"Wallace's interpretive work most closely resembles that of a conventionally attractive android with major wiring problems. She's HAL near the end of 2001. She a glassy-eyed, self-hypnotized droog with the blood of Iraq on her wardrobe."
ReplyDeleteThis seems like very harsh language for whatever offense Somerby believes Wallace committed. Why so much vitriol?
Is Somerby seriously trying to argue that Trump has done nothing wrong and it is only the reporters who are making him seem like someone engaged in criminal activity?
Is there anyone on this planet, Republican or Democrat, who doesn't know that Trump is a criminal engaged in criminal acts as sitting president, who is only escaping indictment because Republicans won't indict him, don't care about his wrongdoing as long as he fulfills the conservative agenda, and have a policy of looking the other way while playing the Republican electorate?
We don't need cable to tell us this. It is manifestly obvious in the stream of news emerging from Washington on every channel except Fox.
But when Nicole Wallace says it, she is the problem! Only in Somerby's world. The only people Somerby can be writing this blog for have their heads so far up their asses that they think Trump can still be maligned.
I'm no fan of Nicolle [sic] Wallace, but Somerby has a strong streak of hating women generally. Bob just clings to whatever drifts across his attention span that day. Now let's get back to the test scores in schools we're all fascinated by.
DeleteDemocrats are talking about Trump's criminal activity in order to rebrand him ahead of the election. Somerby is trying to make this into an issue of accuracy related to Mueller's remarks, but the fact remains that Trump is a criminal and it is time to label him what he is.
ReplyDeleteSomerby's resistance to that is noted. This is not a liberal blog and Somerby is no liberal. Every essay here is in support of conservative talking points.
Absolutely. This is a right-wing Fox News blog, Somerby is all in with that mindset, that liberals are evil. I only check this place when I'm really bored, not much has changed. I check in for the Rachel Maddow criticism, because she needs it, the rest is incoherent babbling.
DeleteThe TDH manifesto is clear, and TDH repeats it obsessively:
ReplyDeleteDon’t trust media types who
1. present one-sided narrative you agree with,
2. used to present one-sided narrative you didn’t agree with
3. are paid large, but unknown salaries to agree with you,
4 represent mind reading as factual.
This is immediately obvious if I say, “Fox News,” and we all think of feral Trumpers nodding mindlessly at the TV screen.
But what happens if TDH says, “MSNBC”? Let’s take a look:
Anonymous @1:15P:
Somerby is unhinged.
He exhibits more passion regarding Nicolle Wallace’s … then he ever shows about any other subject.
[It] seems to be that Somerby agrees with Thiessen.
[TDH has] no reason to sound like a red-faced foot-stomping six-year-old.
Anonymous @9:52A:
Is Somerby seriously trying to argue that Trump has done nothing wrong…?
Anonymous @11:40A:
Somerby's resistance to [Trump’s criminality] is noted.
This is not a liberal blog
Somerby is no liberal
Every essay here is in support of conservative talking points.
Look at this crew. They know Somerby’s mental state (insane), they know what he looks like and sounds like, they know his politics.
But they can’t understand why they should hear an opposing view from someone like Thiessen, they think the blog entry is about Trump’s guilt or innocence, and they think the blog is “conservative."
@1:15P, I’ll bet you’d think Somerby was sane and sober if he was criticizing “Fox and Friends” (or as Charles Pierce calls the show, “Three Dolts on a Couch”).
@9:52A, No,Somerby isn’t arguing that Trump has done nothing wrong; he’s arguing that MSNBC isn’t getting the Mueller story right.
@11:40A, The conservative talking point is that Mueller exonerated Trump. Somerby’s point is that Wallace is wrong when she says Mueller reported that Trump was guilty.
See the difference?
Is it any wonder that I don’t think TDH reads his comment section?
Why would he?
Excessively literal, as always.
DeleteI don't think Wallace was wrong to say that Mueller reported that Trump was guilty. Mueller enumerated the instances of obstruction of justice, for which anyone but a president would have been indicted. It is splitting hairs to say he didn't reported that Trump was guilty.
DeleteWhat is the motivation for splitting such hairs?
1. Someone might be autistic and unable to focus on the bigger picture, draw inferences and put together a whole from the parts.
2. Someone might be conservative and unwilling to admit to facts in evidence, in order to maintain faith in Trump or to defend a previously made choice to support him.
3. Someone might be unable to read or think and feel overwhelmed by everything to do with this subject, so they just believe Fox News and the people who are willing to tell them what's going on in an authoritative way (MSNBC doesn't do that as much as Fox does).
There is no prize for "getting the Mueller story right." Nothing hinges on whether Wallace drew too broad a conclusion from Mueller's report. If her conclusion is essentially correct, and it is, then insisting on nitpicks like this is a way of undermining and discrediting those who wish to point out Trump's wrongdoing, with reference to Mueller's findings. Those findings do add up to numerous crimes. But trying to discredit Wallace is one way to obfuscate and confuse Trump supporters so they won't lose faith in Dear Leader.
Somerby needs to stop doing the devil's work. You too, deadrat.
"...they can’t understand why they should hear an opposing view from someone like Thiessen"
DeleteThiessen wasn't their first choice, but Manson, Stalin, and David Koresh didn't return their calls.
Tone has nothing to do with the written word.
DeleteExcessively literal, as always.
DeleteCould you quote one thing that’s excessively literal?
Saying “all of your comment” just means you disagree with me, which doesn’t help me understand where you think I went wrong.
The literal minded have trouble with idiomatic, figurative, and ironic speech. I don’t think I’m thusly afflicted. Do you think I am?
I don't think Wallace was wrong to say that Mueller reported that Trump was guilty.
DeleteWhy don’t you think Wallace was wrong? Mueller said, “We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime.”
How do you square that with “Mueller reported that Trump was guilty"?
It is splitting hairs to say he didn't reported [sic] that Trump was guilty.
DeleteMueller said that based on DOJ policy he wouldn’t make a determination of Trump’s guilt and in fact didn’t do so. How is the distinction between reporting and not reporting as small as a hairsbreadth?
Mueller said he didn't have the ability to charge Trump. He laid out the evidence and left the obvious conclusion to the reader. He didn't exonerate Trump. Put the pieces together.
Delete"...they can’t understand why they should hear an opposing view from someone like Thiessen"
DeleteThiessen wasn't their first choice, but Manson, Stalin, and David Koresh didn't return their calls.
Ha ha ha ha ha. It’s funny ‘cause all three are dead.
Their first choice? Whom do you think I’m talking about?
Nothing hinges on whether Wallace drew too broad a conclusion from Mueller's report.
DeletePossibly. It depends on whether you think that over-reach puts anti-Trumpers in any jeopardy in the media market. Or whether you think that false media narrative had anything to do with Gore’s defeat.
OK, @2:58P, you’ve got three theories:
Delete1. Somerby is autistic.
2. Somerby supported Trump and is unwilling to admit that that faith has been betrayed.
3. Somerby believes Fox News.
Don’t be coy. Which one (or ones) do you believe?
Wallace says things that are demonstrably false. But those things are about Mueller. I don’t see how that affects anyone wishing to out Trump’s crimes. And I don’t see how pointing out Wallace’s shortcomings could confuse Trump supporters. Trump supporters are already hopelessly confused, and how many of them do you suppose read TDH?
stop doing the devil’s work
It’s either the angels or the devil with tribalists.
He [Mueller] didn't exonerate Trump. Put the pieces together.
DeleteOf course Mueller didn’t exonerate Trump. How do suppose that’s relevant?
Do you think I haven’t put the pieces together?
It has been said that Justice Department officials were taken aback by the tone of special counsel Robert Mueller’s letter to William Barr that vented his frustration over the attorney general’s four-page summary.
DeleteBut what they don't seem to fathom is that there is no such thing as tone in written documents like letters. That is
just for audio.
Those three theories aren't about Somerby.
DeleteHave you heard that band Squawk?
Delete"It has been said," eh? By whom?
DeleteDo you think DOJ officials might have actually been taken aback by the harsh content of Mueller's letter, perhaps Mueller's characterization of Barr's lying in his summary?
Do you think that perhaps DOJ officials might have asked their colleagues in the Special Counsel's office if Mueller meant to sound harsh, received confirmation that he did, and were taken aback by that?
Do you think that you still haven't learned that writers may intend tone, but readers interpret tone based on the context they perceive?
Listen to me, asking whether you think.
Never mind.
Anonymous @9:53P
DeleteIf you’re the same Anonymous as @2:58P, then please tell me whom the theories are about if not TDH.
If you’re a different Anonymous from @2:58P, no offense, but I’m not interested in what you think about another commenter’s response.
You (@2:58P) say that it’s splitting hairs to say that Mueller didn’t report that Trump was guilty. The whole thrust of TDH’s argument is that Mueller didn't report Trump's guilt. You ask what the motivation would be to take TDH’s position, and then guess about such motivation.
And now you’re saying that those guesses aren’t about TDH.
Have I got that right?
It was the tone that they mentioned specifically. And they were specifically referring to the way the letter was written.
Delete"Writers may.intemd tone" HAHAHAHAHA
"writers may intend tone, but readers interpret tone based on the context they perceive?"
DeleteWho would ever argue with that? That is obvious. That was never up for debate. That's like saying the sky is blue. What kind of nitwit would would even think about such an obvious fact?
"tone" of the "letter"
Deletehttps://www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-letter-william-barr-russia-investigation-1411003
Just because you do remember deadrat back a few weeks ago when you said that tone was only for audio? Not for anything written? Do you want me to find where you said that? So dumb.
Hilarious how dumb you are.
"deadrat May 2019 at 11:53 PM
DeleteThere is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech."
Funny.
Then you move the goalposts and state the obvious about intention and perception and all that after your're called out. Funny. Pathetic. But funny too.
Deadrat is more or less the joke of the board. Certainly not the brightest.
DeleteIt's my own personal troll @11:48P! Welcome back! I knew you couldn't stay away. You may think you're my harshest critic, but if you have to continue to follow my every comment, even from threads long dead, then, bitch, you're my biggest fan.
Delete@11:35P, Sure. Go back and find it. I'm pretty sure you won't find a mention of "audio." But re-read it. Maybe you'll understand it this time.
DeleteNo answer but that huh? Sad. Pathetic.
Delete"There is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech."
What did you mean by that dumb shit?
Eddie, Thanks at least for not commenting as Anonymous. Anything substantive you'd like to dispute about what I've written?
DeleteNo?
Imagine my surprise.
You wrote "There is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech."
DeleteWhy did you make a claim as ludicrous and embarrassingly stupid as that?
Nitwits taking about a nobody. This whole thread is stupid, and Somerby is senile. I like your style Deadrat, but this thread is pointless.
DeleteThanks Belvoir. That's sooooo great of an observation. I have no idea why these nitwits feel like there is tone in written text. It's weird.
DeleteThat's for speech.
Ah! Someone (@1:49A) who thinks I’m a dumb shit for something I wrote, but nevertheless asks what I meant. How refreshing!
DeleteNow, of course, I don’t know whether you’re actually interested in the answer, but I’ll assume you are.
And I’ll assume that we agree on what tone is — level of seriousness, depth of emotion, amount of deceit, etc. My claim is not that writers don’t intend tone when they choose their words, and it’s not that readers don’t infer tone when they read those words. And it’s not that writers and readers can’t agree that the tone intended was the tone understood.
My claim is that the bare text isn’t up to the task of conveying that tone. Readers always need extra-scriptural context to make the inference.
That’s it. @11:30P thinks I’m a nitwit to “even think about” something so obvious. OK, so it’s no great or original insight. I’m not saying it is. But given the amount of parsing of TDH’s blog entries to determine his state of mind, I’d say the obvious isn’t so obvious among this commentariat.
(Speech is different because we have more than pronunciation. We have body language, facial expressions, vocalizations. And if we’re speaking face-to-face, then we can query the person we’re talking to.)
Now that I’ve concluded what will be my final trip on this fool’s errand, perhaps you can do me a favor and tell me what any of this has to do with my comment twelve hours ago about my interpretation of TDH’s stance on the media types he criticized in the blog entry.
Eddie,
DeleteSo nothing substantive about my original comment in this thread?
OK, then.
@11:35P, So I follow your Newsweek link to find this:
DeleteThe Washington Post said Mueller's letter to Barr, in which he expressed his concerns, was written out in such stark terms that it “shocked senior Justice Department officials,” according people familiar with the matter. The Post also described how some officials were surprised that Mueller had such concerns because until then the pair had been in agreement regarding the redacted release of the report.
So it was Mueller's "terms" that shocked them. That and the fact that no one was expecting any disagreement.
Thanks for making my point for me.
Your claim was "There is no "tone" in written text."
DeleteNow you again move the goalposts and say that it "isn’t up to the task of conveying that tone.". Another stupid claim. Of course it is. And it doesn't have anything to do with your original claim which was there at their ia "no" tone at all in text. ("There is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech")
"My claim is not that writers don’t intend tone when they choose their words, and it’s not that readers don’t infer tone when they read those words"
This claim, which diverges from your first claim is also foolish. It's just a stupid gambit on your part to try to wiggle out of the embarrassing stupidity of your original claim. You're a pathetic man boy who doesn't even have the guts to own up to his own mistakes.
I’ve explained what I meant and for the last time.
Delete(By the way, there’s no difference between “text can’t convey tone” and “no tone in text.”)
Another stupid claim
This claim is also foolish
Stupid gambit
embarrassing stupidity
pathetic man boy
How do you know I'm male?
Get a grip, Sparky. What is it about this topic that triggered your Tourette’s? What’s the absolute worst thing about my claim? That somebody you don’t know and presumably don’t care about said something that you think is wrong in the comment section of a blog nobody reads?
That’s the hill you want to die on?
Now, of course, perhaps you have no investment in this at all, and you’re just trolling me.
So thanks for proving my point for me once again.
Who is this bitch deadrat? Why is he here?
DeleteI can not even read through all his whiny defensiveness.
If Bob Somerby read his comments, he would be completely embarrassed by this fanboy.
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You never explained what you meant when you said "There is no "tone" in written text." Explain that please. Why do you avoid explaining it? You later said something stupid about it not being up to the task but originally you said there is none What did you mean by that? We all know that there is tone in written text. So why did you claim the opposite? did you claim that at the time believing it? Did you make some sort of mistake? It's like claiming the sky is not blue. And really, what is your problem? Your posts are so frequently daft. And so frequent! It's sad. Really sad that American men like yourself are so poorly reasoned and weirdly resentful when it is made clear to them.
Delete"How do you know I'm male?"
DeleteWomen are dumb, but not dumb like you are. No offense. I'm sure there are some things you may be good at.
deadrat - if I can jump in here. You said "there’s no difference between “text can’t convey tone” and “no tone in text.”
DeleteBoth of those claims are false and ... stupidly so, if I may be so bold. Please try to "convey" less dumb claims if you could sir. Wishing you a great day.
"Ha ha ha ha ha. It’s funny ‘cause all three are dead."
DeleteActually, it;'s sad, because they are all equally pieces of shit, whose opinions (like Thiessen's) the media (and the rest of humankind) should't give a shit about.
@11:17P, I agree with you about Thiessen, just another braindead rightard. But TDH's point is that our favored outlets never let us hear from anyone else on the other side. That way the bubble lies, something we see easily on Faux News. Put on someone like Thiessen and explode his bullshit.
DeleteHow hard could that be?
Braindead rightards are already over-represented in the media. I'm ready to hear from the other side.
DeleteWhy should the media give voice to those who refuse to make a good faith case for their "beliefs"?
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ReplyDeletethank god for little things
DeleteI just moved it to the right place in the thread, troll.
DeleteSorry to disappoint.
Disappoint? I was purposefully triggering you. Most of us here find it amusing when you go on your little triggered defensive rants.
DeleteYou think anonymous trolls on a little-read blog can "trigger" me?
DeleteThat's adorable!
Frankly, every time I think that I understand what Mueller said, he says something, or someone argues something, that convinces me that I don't.
ReplyDeleteThis is just absurd. That our elite chattering class isn't demanding more clarity from Mueller, is ridiculous.
Why is anyone standing for this bullshit?
I don't care if it's with a Republican or Democrat, Mueller needs to sit down with a member of congress and answer direct questions, in English...
They aren't "standing for" it. They are still going to subpoena Mueller to testify.
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ReplyDelete"deadrat May 2019 at 11:53 PM
DeleteThere is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech."
Jesus, what a ton of gas, if anyone can tell me what Somerby is blathering on and on and on about.. I still don't care. I am no fan of giggling Nicolle [sic] Wallace, but this is an incoherent mess. I have no idea what Somerby is talking about, and I think senility has set in. Again.
ReplyDeleteI tried to explain @2:37 what I thought TDH is on about. Not clear?
DeleteIt is clear what you are thinking, but your thinking is not clear.
DeleteClear?
There is no "tone" in written text. That's for speech."
ReplyDeleteMakes sense to me.
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