Johnson doesn't trust the FBI or the CIA!

MONDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2019

Pepperidge Farm remembers...:
Senator Johnson (R-Wisconsin) outraged all right-thinking people on yesterday's Meet the Press.

He did so in several different ways. One such way was by saying this:
JOHNSON (10/6/19): I don't trust those guys.
It's not entirely clear what Johnson was saying, because he and Chuck Todd spent a vast amount of time interrupting each other.

Todd is being praised for his role in yesterday's fracas, but this new press culture is a highly unconstructive form of Creeping Cuomoism. Anyone who has watched Chris Cuomo pretend to interview Rudy Giuliani will possibly know what we mean.

(Earth to Chris: If that's the way folk talk in New York, folk should stop talking that way.)

At any rate, if you want to see what kind of transcripts result from Creeping Cuomoism, just click here, then marvel at the verbal shards which go on and on and on down the page as Todd and Johnson engage in their co-interruptions.

What did Johnson seem to be saying? He seemed to be saying that he doesn't trust the leadership of the FBI and the CIA. Among right-thinking people, this has been treated as an outrageous stance, but at one time, not too long ago, this would have been a typical stance from almost any liberal.

Is it possible that intelligence officials did something "wrong" in their approach to Candidate or Early President Trump? Of course it is, we're inclined to say, although we have no knowledge of any such misconduct.

We'll guess that these people, perfectly sensibly, saw Candidate, then President, Donald J. Trump as an impending disaster and as a threat to the nation. That said, who could possibly believe that an upstanding fellow like Comey the God would ever have acted inappropriately, no matter what he may have thought?

For ourselves, we'd like to see William Barr go ahead and do his freaking report. We're curious about the Maltese professor too; we're curious to see if Barr, or if U.S. attorney John Durham, can actually come up with any information about him.

Also, about Putin's smokin' hot "niece!"

Today's standard liberal takes a different approach. Tribally, we're committed to shutting inquiry down even before any results, absurd or otherwise, can even so much as get leaked.

That said, Donald J. Trump did get elected; he did appoint William Barr to serve as attorney general. We're curious to see what Barr comes up with, if anything, concerning any possible misconduct on the part of intelligence officials.

Others want to cover their ears. Our interpretation?

They know our tribe can't win a debate, at least not to a sufficient degree, if we think the results of this probe turn out to be blooey—that we haven't been able to win a debate going back many long years.

Among various ridiculous things, Johnson said he doesn't trust power. We can't swear that he should.

27 comments:

  1. "We'll guess that these people, perfectly sensibly, saw Candidate, then President, Donald J. Trump as an impending disaster and as a threat to the nation."

    Whoa, Bob. Just wow! Spooks are so great. And 'perfectly sensible', no less. And all they care about is saving 'the nation'.

    Saving the nation from itself, in this case. The most honorable pursuit.

    ...on the second thought, I'm with you on this. No sarcasm, no siree Bob.

    Spooks are great, great people. Perfect. The greatest. Yes, all they care about is The Nation. Nothing else.

    And I have no idea whatsoever why your zombie VIP Chuck Schumer said -- on TV! -- “Let me tell you: you take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”. I'm sure he meant it in the nicest way possible...

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  2. Todd was trying to get Johnson to answer his initial question, which was:
    “Let me start with something you told The Wall Street Journal late last week. You had said when Mr. Sondland -- Gordon Sondland seemed to imply that -- the frozen military aid was connected to a promise by Zelensky for investigations, you said, "At that suggestion, I winced. My reaction was, 'Oh God. I don't wanna see those two things combined.'" Why did you wince and what did you mean by "those two things combined?”

    Johnson immediately pivots to Page, Strzok, Brennan, etc.

    What happened to the Somerby who used to criticize journalists for letting their interview subjects wander off and refuse to answer questions?

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    1. Is it possible that Somerby did something "wrong" in his approach to Candidate or Early President Trump? Of course it is, we're inclined to say.

      Yay! It's fun to write empty and meaningless statements.

      Somerby, you think Barr is actually investigating anything? Brother, please.

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    2. 'What happened to the Somerby who used to criticize journalists for letting their interview subjects wander off and refuse to answer questions?'

      That only holds when journalists are interviewing liberals. When they are defending Trump supporters, the journalists are wrong if they question the supporters.

      Somerby is a clueless, lying, Trumptard.

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  3. “Tribally, we're committed to shutting inquiry down even before any results, absurd or otherwise, can even so much as get leaked.”

    This is an astounding statement in light of the legitimate inquiries that the House is trying to conduct and the absolute refusal to cooperate from the Trump administration, to the extent of defying lawful subpoenas and invoking privileges that don’t exist. Somerby has *never once* mentioned, let alone criticized, the Trump administration for this.

    Somerby may not be a Trumptard, but he does seem to have been replaced by a pod person who comes close to arguing in such egregious bad faith against liberals that he comes close to approximating at times a Trumptard.

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    1. Somerby is a Trumptard. He makes no pretense otherwise. he wants Dems to lose, so he can bitch for the rest of his miserable life about 2000.

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  4. Todd should be commended for trying to prevent Johnson’s attempted snow job.

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  5. Here are some other statements that show how far Somerby has wandered from liberal views:

    1. "...at one time, not too long ago, this would have been a typical stance from almost any liberal." Somerby says this about not trusting the leadership of the FBI and the CIA.

    This may have been true in the 60s when J. Edgar was investigating all leftists but lately, the FBI and CIA have been nonpartisan and liberals have tended to trust them as essential to controlling crime (especially terrorism) and corruption.

    2. Somerby objects to Todd's interruption of Johnson. No liberal would object to a reporter interrupting an interviewee because Republicans filibuster at any chance in order to keep from having to answer uncomfortable questions, taking their answers in all directions and wasting time. It is a routine conservative tactic during an interview, so interruption to keep them on track is essential.

    3. It was a shock to many liberals when Comey broke rules and torpedoed Hillary. He wasn't any kind of "god" then. It was shocking because of the assumption that intelligence staff would not get involved in the election. The sabotage of Hillary's election chances was the first massive wrongdoing of Republicans that liberals were aware of.

    4. The Steele report was already investigated by the FBI and CIA, our intelligence services, so the further investigation by the DOJ seems unnecessary to liberals. No one "trusts" Barr and his accomplices and no liberal thinks he is conducting any kind of fair investigation. Most liberals think he is fabricating an attack on the info contained in the Steele dossier and previous intelligence gathered against Trump, to use during his impeachment. It is seen by liberals as part of the attempt to "clear" Putin and exonerate Russia from their meddling. Few liberals see this as a good idea, as Somerby suggests they might.

    Somerby thinks Barr's report will be reliable. I see no reason why it wouldn't be a pack of lies. That's why liberals would want to shut it down (although most would simply let it play out and then pay it no attention). How can anything Barr says be trusted?

    Somerby thinks there can be a debate when one side lies through its teeth and the other tries to hang onto the truth. Whatever such a dialog is, it is certainly not a debate.

    Somerby himself has clearly lost the trust of most liberals reading this blog. Today's post is an example of why. This is another argument in favor of Trump's attempts to defend himself and against liberal complaints about the DOJ and its activities to prop up Trump's failed presidency.

    Several blogs have pointed out that Barr is exceeding his authority and doing work that is not part of his job description, as he runs around the world pretending to be the CIA. It looks odd because Barr is doing Trump's bidding, not behaving as any Attorney General would do. But Somerby doesn't see anything odd about it.

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    1. I think Bob knows Clinton beat Trump 3 times in the debates, which may have helped her popular vote margin. If Bob thought otherwise at the time, he didn't say so. Barr defrauded the public is a shocking fashion, it's hard to think Bob doesn't know that too. Bob has become a bitter, mean spirited weirdo.

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    2. 'Somerby thinks there can be a debate when one side lies through its teeth and the other tries to hang onto the truth. '

      That's why it's useless to debate Somerby, since he lies through his teeth. Much more effective to just call him out as a Trumptard.

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    3. Both sides lie through their reeth

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    4. I certainly didn't "trust" the FBI (Comey) as it investigated HRC's emails. The disclosures in James Stewart's new book also confirm my suspicions about the rank and file who were leaking to Giuliani throughout.

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  6. 'They know our tribe can't win a debate, at least not to a sufficient degree, if we think the results of this probe turn out to be blooey—that we haven't been able to win a debate going back many long years.'

    You mean your Tribe of Trumptards, Somerby ?

    'Among various ridiculous things, Johnson said he doesn't trust power. We can't swear that he should.'

    No, he doesn't trust anyone who opposes Trump (who does represent power). In the recent past, Johnson had no problems funding and allowing the FBI/CIA/NSA everything they wanted to spy on Americans.

    Somerby is a lying Trumptard if he doesn't know that.

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  7. if Todd could be criticized for something, it could be for not calling out Johnson when Johnson said he accepted Trump's word that there was no quid pro quo. The President is of course, a known liar.

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  8. In its archives, Tablet Magazine has several interesting pieces from Lee Smith on the media’s relationship with the intelligence community, and about the industry’s discussion of its standards and practices in the Trump Era.

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  9. A staple of the old Howler was Bob running down a (liberalish) talking head for how much money they made. Quite fair really, and he would also make occasional appeals for donations. These both stopped at the same time. The first time I pointed this out, I was blocked from the site, but circumstantial evidence suggests Bob found a right wing sugar daddy.
    Well, being thin skinned is all too human. No doubt it was Bob haunting the comment sections trying to jeer me off with a created alter ego. Well, we do know he likes comment sections, and has tried to make cases about journalists by citing letters to the editor. Whatever. I do pop in from time to time, and it seems to come down to this....
    Trump is nuts so lets not talk about Trump. (once Bob viewed such judgements as hearsay, now he berates journos for not making them) Nichole Wallace, who IS too jokey, seems to piss Bob off the most for laying it on the line and for once being part of the W White House he spent eight years making excuses for. People who defend Trump and Trump's racism are to be rationalized or laughed off but there I go mentioning Trump again.
    Bob's once big subject, the abuse of Clinton/Gore, is oddly uncommented on now, even as the left's swinish throwing them under the bus could desperately use some heat and light. But, it would seem Bob has been as "repurposed" as Matthews was when MSNBC went "liberal." God Help us all..-Greg

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    1. He never stopped mentioning salary, he mentions it in today's post actually.

      You sound paranoid.

      Because you thought he stopped mentioning salary, which he didn't, you felt like he blocked you and began to troll you in comments?

      Isn't that a little solipsistic?

      After all the reason for you're paranoid claim is wrong.

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    2. A staple of the old Howler was Bob running down a (liberalish) talking head for how much money they made. Quite fair really, and he would also make occasional appeals for donations. These both stopped at the same time. The first time I pointed this out, I was blocked from the site,….

      Why would TDH care if you mentioned his penchant for talking about the (hidden) salaries for liberalish corporate reporters? It’s one of his favorite talking points.

      Could you point out when TDH asked for donations? Aside from the “Donate” button he has at the top of the blog. Since he’s got the button, why would he care if you mentioned that he asks for donations?

      And I don’t believe for a moment that you were “blocked” from the site. TDH doesn’t even block spell casters and Mumbai movers.

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    3. TDH isn't blocking anyone. Somerby needs as many hits on his blog as he can get. Somerby trolls liberals into responding to his posts, by repeating Right-wing nonsense memes and sock-puppeting under the name Mao Cheng Ji.

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  12. BS approach is stupid- one needs to call stupidity when they see it not just ignore it. To be sure one could create a report, leak some nonsense and voila our stupidity grows. Let's recall how an Arkansas land deal came down.

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  13. I don't think you can blame Bob for not realizing he's getting played by Right-wingers. You might not realize it too, if you slept through the last 45 years.

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