Random thoughts when fleeing from "cable news"...

TUESDAY, AUGUST 29, 2023

...and from our modern discourse: We're pleased to report that Kevin Drum got thinking the other day about—

Well, we'll let him tell it himself:

A couple of days ago I was thinking, as one does, about the equivalence of gravitational mass and inertial mass. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, all mass has two properties:

All mass has two properties? To learn what they are, just click here.

With Labor Day approaching, we had considered the possibility of spending a week on the opening passages of Philosophical Investigations. 

How would you introduce "the most important philosophy text of the last century" to a bunch of first-time readers? Every now and them, we dream of spending time on explorations of that type.

Along the way, along came a New York Times review of Nikhil Krishnan's new book. Headline included, Jennifer Szalai starts her review like this:

The Philosophers Who Used Word Puzzles to Understand the World

When setting out to write “A Terribly Serious Adventure: Philosophy and War at Oxford, 1900-1960,” Nikhil Krishnan certainly had his work cut out for him. How to generate excitement for a “much-maligned” philosophical tradition that hinges on finicky distinctions in language? Whose main figures were mostly well-to-do white men, routinely caricatured—and not always unfairly—for being suspicious of foreign ideas and imperiously, insufferably smug?

Krishnan, a philosopher at Cambridge, confesses up front that he, too, felt frustrated and resentful when he first encountered “linguistic” or “analytic” philosophy as a student at Oxford. He had wanted to study philosophy because he associated it with mysterious qualities like “depth” and “vision.” He consequently assumed that philosophical writing had to be densely “allusive”; after all, it was getting at something “ineffable.” But his undergraduate tutor, responding to Krishnan’s muddled excuse for some muddled writing, would have none of it. “On the contrary, these sorts of things are entirely and eminently effable,” the tutor said. “And I should be very grateful if you’d try to eff a few of them for your essay next week.”

“A Terribly Serious Adventure” is lively storytelling as sly “redescription”: an attempt to recast the history of philosophy at Oxford in the mid-20th century by conveying not only what made it influential in its time but also what might make it vital in ours...

In Szalai's rendering, the "philosophical tradition" which Krishnan explores is much-maligned but potentially vital in our age. For ourselves, a question about Wittgenstein comes to mind, though it's also applicable to the contemporaries under review in this book:

If Wittgenstein was the most significant philosopher of the last century, why is it that neither you nor anyone else can give even the slightest thumbnail description of what he "said" or wrote about?

God is dead, Nietzsche is said to have said. In the short essay from Professor Horwich which we've often cited, Wittgenstein is said to have said or implied something similar about the set of linguistic muddles known as traditional philosophy.

For what it's worth, here's the puzzling way Philosophical Investigations begins

1. "When they (my elders) named some object, and accordingly moved towards something, I saw this and I grasped that the thing was called by the sound they uttered when they meant to point it out. Their intention was shewn by their bodily movements, as it were the natural language of all peoples: the expression of the face, the play of the eyes, the movement of other parts of the body, and the tone of voice which expresses our state of mind in seeking, having, rejecting, or avoiding something. Thus, as I heard words repeatedly used in their proper places in various sentences, I gradually learnt to understand what objects they signified; and after I had trained my mouth to form these signs, I used them to express my own desires." (Augustine, Confessions, I. 8.)

These words, it seems to me, give us a particular picture of the essence of human language. It is this: the individual words in language name objects—sentences are combinations of such names.——In this picture of language we find the roots of the following idea: Every word has a meaning. This meaning is correlated with the word. It is the object for which the word stands.

Now think of the following use of language: I send someone shopping. I give him a slip marked "five red apples". He takes the slip to the shopkeeper, who opens the drawer marked "apples"; then he looks up the word "red" in a table and finds a colour sample opposite it; then he says the series of cardinal numbers—I assume that he knows them by heart—up to the word "five" and for each number he takes an apple of the same colour as the sample out of the drawer.——It is in this and similar ways that one operates with words.——"But how does he know where and how he is to look up the word 'red' and what he is to do with the word 'five'?"——Well, I assume that he acts as I have described. Explanations come to an end somewhere.—But what is the meaning of the word "five"?—No such thing was in question here, only how the word "five" is used.

So begins the book which was chosen as the most important philosophy text of the last century. Questions may come to mind:

What in the world was Wittgenstein talking or thinking about? Where did he go from there?

Is there any chance that this most important text actually had something of value to offer? Why is it that no one has the slightest idea what that supposedly is or was?

Our contemporary public discourse turns on nonsense and trivia. It's piddle and trivia all the way down, over and over again.

Could we ever turn to loftier thoughts? As Hemingway once so thoughtfully wrote, "Isn't it pretty to think so?"


27 comments:

  1. The questions raised by Wittgenstein have been dealt with by subsequent philosophers, especially in reference philosophy. Somerby has either not read any of them or he stubbornly prefers Wittgenstein because Wittgenstein tried to throw out all of his predecessors. But philosophers did not stop thinking and writing with Wittgenstein. It is unfair to both the field of philosophy and to those later thinkers to accept Somerby's mischaracterization of the state of the field.

    It is notable that Somerby deals only with the beginning of Wittgenstein's book. Whenever he quotes anything here, he typically only deals with the preface or the first paragraph (as with Lady with the Lapdog) and not the whole work or anything beyond the beginning. I don't think he actually reads past that. Or perhaps that is as far as he got in various texts assigned in his Harvard classes (My Antonia for example).

    I suspect that Wittgenstein gives Somerby an excuse not to deal with the complexities of anything he doesn't want to think about, including the entire field of philosophy. He doesn't want to read the ideas of those who have tried to make sense of the problems of linguistic philosophy since Wittgenstein because that would be hard work. My personal favorite philosopher of linguistics is Hilary Putnam who was a professor at MIT when Somerby was a student at Harvard. His "Meaning and Reference" deals with the problems raised by Wittgenstein with respect to language.

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  2. "Is there any chance that this most important text actually had something of value to offer? Why is it that no one has the slightest idea what that supposedly is or was?"

    Wittgenstein was an expert writing for other experts. There are still such experts in the world and they have an idea what Wittgenstein's work had to offer during his lifetime as well as now, given that philosophy has changed over that time period. Experts.

    Somerby has never understand what expertise consists of or why it is needed, what the value is of knowing things that the average person doesn't know, the specialization and division of labor among knowledge workers that enables people collectively to know a lot more than one person working alone could know. The shared and yet distributed nature of meaning and knowledge, and the way experts contribute to shared knowledge and the construction of meaning.

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  3. Somerby says: "Could we ever turn to loftier thoughts? As Hemingway once so thoughtfully wrote, "Isn't it pretty to think so?"

    Here is Hemingway's last paragraph of The Sun Also Rises, a novel, from which that line is taken:

    "Oh, Jake," Brett said, "We could have had such a damned good time together."

    Ahead was a mounted policeman in khaki directing traffic. He raised his baton. The car slowed suddenly pressing Brett against me. "Yes," I said. "Isn't it pretty to think so?"

    That sentence has meaning within the context of the larger novel and its ending. Critics say it is about regret. Somerby implies that it is about impossibility instead.

    Why can't Jake and Brett be together? Here is one explanation (Spark Notes):

    "As they ride through the streets of Paris in the taxi, Jake kisses Brett, but she tells him to stop. They love one another, but Brett refuses to have a romantic relationship because Jake cannot have sex. Brett laments their fate, saying that she is now paying for all the “hell” she has made men endure."

    What does Brett's choice have to do with no one reading Wittgenstein and thinking lofty thoughts? Jake sounds bitter, as if he doubts that Brett would have had much fun with him regardless, given that she doesn't appreciate the non-sexual parts of him enough to stay with him. If she is that shallow, they might not have lasted together anyway.

    Is Somerby really saying that if people chose to read Wittgenstein, they still might not think loftier thoughts because they wouldn't understand it? The meaning of that last sentence must be considered within the context in which it was spoken. The same applies to making an analogy to Wittgenstein and lofty thoughts (instead of fun together). Does it make any sense?

    Perhaps it means that we cannot read Wittgenstein because the books doesn't make sense itself (just as Jake cannot have sex), so there is no point in reading it (Brett leaves), but it is pretty to think that it might have made sense had we read it? That seems as likely to me as anything else, especially given that Wittgenstein's criticisms of language in philosophy must surely apply to his own work too, not just that of other writers, and also that Wittgenstein is praised for his early work, not his later work, where he seemingly invalidates all of philosophy (to Somerby's delight). The later philosophers of linguistics placed language back on a solid footing in philosophical writing by addressing Wittgenstein's criticisms. Somerby doesn't care about that. He just thinks the sentence "Wouldn't it be pretty to think so" has a nice ring to it, so he grabbed it and stuck it at the end of his essay, whether it works there or not.

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  4. There are so many things to do besides watching cable news. Why pick Wittgenstein?

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  5. I agree with somewhat with Nikola Tesla who complained Germany and its inventors (or engineering expats in this case) were becoming associated with everything cutting edge, and took on a brand of their own. The prestige deserves to be questioned. Wittgenstein was part of a larger "linguistic turn" in philosophy towards deeper analytics, which includes Polish philosophers like Carnap. This suggests some crowd effect on the applause. Maybe if the Soviet team could have a Karl and Friedrich at least the West could have a Ludwig.

    But Wittgenstein was comfortably apolitical, he fled from fascism and led a quiet life. He tracked down a problem in philosophy that you can find in Socrates dialogue with Philebus, thinkers who impatiently "drop into infinity" of inspiration before the careful work of separating out the evidence is accomplished. Wittgenstein tried to argue concepts can be studied on the granular level of language itself, and they do more than simply designate a name to a thing, but come with intentions. This opened up new questions about what words themselves are doing at all, is speaking significant or just an empty vessel for ideas? And loosely you can trace this to modern vulnerability felt in canny policing of offensive language in politics by the majority and the minority, with their own personal language. The meaning of words and "picture" suggested by them are useful, even just to understand its offshoots of behaviorists and postmodernism, and how they think.

    We also have language games in headlines downplaying global warming in Hawaii, or casually bringing up divorce statistics in economics to obscure less personal analysis from view. Intentions can't be neatly be separated from speech and meaning. Hail Wittgenstein.

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  6. I am not prejudiced against white men. Some of my best friends are white men.

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    1. Snow White was a woman, but I'm not prejudiced against her.

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    2. I suspect you feel the same about Rosered.

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    3. I don't know anything about Rosered.

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  7. “Is there any chance that this most important text actually had something of value to offer? Why is it that no one has the slightest idea what that supposedly is or was?”

    Do you, Bob?

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  8. Drum writes about physics as if he got a B in a local community college Physics 101 class, and in order to mask his “centrist” (aka right wing) stance from the substantial portion of his audience that leans more progressive.

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  9. "Random thoughts when fleeing from "cable news"..

    Is there a law that someone must watch cable news? I didn't think there was but Somerby seems to think he has no alternatives.

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    1. Challenge: Please link to a comment of yours in a TDH post where you agree with anything Somerby wrote, ever.

      Then I'll start to take your criticisms seriously.

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    2. "Somerby must cry when he reads the comments. They validate what he said. If Democrats and liberals want to persuade our fellow citizens, we must treat Republicans and conservatives respectfully. To have lost to Trump in 2016 was, to some degree, our failure. We yell and scream, but it does not win us votes. If we don’t change, we will also be responsible when Trump wins in 2024."

      Continue.

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    3. When is this from? Google search turns up nothing. Can you link to it?

      Are you the same poster that endlessly spams word salads criticizing Somerby's every word?

      Thank you.

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    4. There is no law that you must read any comments here, especially ones you disagree with.

      Calling something you don’t understand “word salad” just displays your own limitations. It is just more name-calling.

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    5. Trump won because he cheated (helped by Russia and Comey) not because of liberals or MSNBC.

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    6. Yes, I don't want to read your garbage. Go away.

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    7. The idea that Trump won for one single reason is idiotic. Chaining a bunch of crap assessments like this together is what constitues word salad. Gives me indigestion when consumed in that dense a format.

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    8. Barbie says: Reading is Hard.

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    9. We all agreed with Somerby back when he wrote coherent posts attacking the media, before he became a shill for the Right, echoing Republican talking points.

      Somerby warned us in 2018, 2020, and 2022 that if we do not acquiesce to the Right, we would be responsible for the outcomes. Somerby predicted big red tribe wins.

      We did not bow down to the Right, we fought their nonsense, we protested, we organized, and the red tribe lost in a big way.

      Somerby, deservedly, has no credibility, not just based on him historically being wrong on pretty much everything, but also because he never offers credible evidence in support of his claims.

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  10. The other day on Fox News, the hapless and generic Tucker replacement robot hilariously touted Trump’s mugshot as a win for Trump and the red tribe, since he reckoned it will bring into the fold the “forgotten” Blacks as they will relate to the mugshot.

    And for evidence, while he’s spouting his racist nonsense, he uses b roll of a Black man painting a mural of Trump’s mugshot on an inner city wall.

    But oops, if you keep watching the video (which they cut off) the Black painter’s mural was an attack on Trump, finished with a word bubble:

    MAGA
    My Ass Got Arrested

    Bwahahahahahaha

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    1. Well, maybe watching Fox isn't at all bad... absurdity always makes me laugh.

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