THE AMERICAN NATION'S NEW CLOTHES: A new suit of clothes has appeared on the scene!

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2024

The Times keeps averting its gaze: No one was perfect at last week's debate. For the record, no one ever is. 

Last Tuesday, no one was perfect! For ourselves, we would have liked it better if Linsey Davis of ABC News hadn't offered this:

TRUMP (9/10/24): ...For 52 years they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states. And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court Justices, we were able to do that.

 Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. I believe strongly in it. Ronald Reagan did also. 85% of Republicans do. Exceptions. Very important. But we were able to get it. And now states are voting on it. And for the first time, you're going to see— 

Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years. Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote. And that's what happened. Now, Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal. Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal. Much more liberal than people would have thought. But each individual state is voting. It's the vote of the people now. It's not tied up in the federal government. 

I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it. And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to those six Justices.

DAVIS: There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.  

Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump...

For the full debate transcript, click here.

Davis made an accurate statement, but it wasn't directly relevant to anything Candidate Trump had said—and what he had said was littered with baldly absurd misstatements of the endlessly fact-checked kind.

Meanwhile, a poisonous claim went unmentioned. Earlier in that same statement, the candidate had also said this:

Her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth—it's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born—is okay. And that's not okay with me. 

Execution after birth is OK? Has Candidate Walz ever made any such statement? 

That was a truly remarkable claim. But is there any actual example of any such statement by Walz?

As a marker of the basic lack of skill of the current mainstream press corps, we've seen quite a few news orgs report that they've fact-checked that claim.  We've seen no one report that they engaged in the most obvious possible journalistic behavior:

We've seen no one report that they asked the Trump campaign to cite an example of any such statement by Candidate Walz. We've seen no one report what the Trump campaign said when they were asked to do that.

Did Candidate Walz ever say such a thing? We've seen no news org ask! It would occur to a high school sophomore to direct that question to the Trump campaign. That said, the giants who people our mainstream news orgs are sometimes imperfect these days.

We would have liked it better if Davis hadn't said what she said at that juncture. The candidate's presentation had been full of giant misstatements. She let them go, then offered an accurate statement which was only tangentially relevant to the strange things the hopeful had said.

In fairness, Davis had a tough assignment that night. In our view, her work wasn't perfect. We also would have liked it better if Candidate Harris hadn't said this:

HARRIS (9/10/24): Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing antisemitic hate, and what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side. 

The candidate clearly seemed to say that President Trump had said that there "very fine people" among the broken-souled antisemites who marched through the UVa campus on August 11, 2017—on the soul-draining Friday night before the violent events of the following day.

That's what she plainly seemed to say. For better or worse, Pepperidge Farm no longer remembers that he also said this at that same press event:

"I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."

There's plenty to criticize about the way President Trump discussed the events of that Charlottesville weekend.  

But during the same Tuesday press event from the which the "very fine people" quote has been pulled, he said, on several separate occasions, that he wasn't referring to neo-Nazis or white nationalists or to "white supremacists" when he made the statement in question. 

In a statement at the White House, he had said the same thing the day before.

For ourselves, we'd score what Candidate Harris said as basically inaccurate. There's plenty to criticize (or not) about Trump's reaction to that weekend's events, but our blue tribe loves the simplified tale which the candidate offered, and we endlessly repeat it.

For ourselves, we'd say that the candidate's statement very much leaned toward "wrong." We think her performance would have been stronger that night if she had said something else.

No one was perfect last Tuesday night, and no one ever is. Having said that, in our view, one particular person stood out.

He's long been draped in a new suit of clothes. He issued strange howlers all through the night.  At one point, he even said this:

TRUMP: What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country—and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States! And a lot of towns don't want to talk—not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. 

In Springfield, they're eating the dogs! The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating—they're eating the pets of the people that live there! And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame.

Forget about Springfield's cats and dogs. On that occasion, he even threw Aurora into the mix! 

We speak of Aurora (Colorado). Assessing the work of the New York Times, let us say this about that: 

By now, everyone knows that this candidate's statement about the cats and dogs of Springfield (Ohio) was highly disordered that night. That said:

When the New York Times reported the aftermath of the candidate's wildly inaccurate claims, the report got buried on page A21 in its print editions. Jordan and Baker even opened their report about the mayhem which followed the candidate's angry remarks with a slightly humorous air.

A few days later, in this additional report, the Times reported the various problems with the candidate's ongoing claims about Aurora. In print editions, that report also got buried, consigned to page A12. 

In fairness, no one's news judgment will ever be perfect—and it would be very hard for any newspaper to keep up with the endless array of crazy, false and puzzling statements issued by this particular candidate. That said, it seems to us that an ongoing problem is involved in these placement decisions.

ABC's moderators were imperfect that night. In our view, so was Candidate Harris.

In our view, Candidate Trump was different. He made wild statements all through the night. He's been behaving this way for nine years.

Seven years ago, a Yale psychiatrist edited a best-selling book in which 37 mental health specialists said this situation was dangerous—and they said it would only get worse.

The fact that they said it didn't mean it was true. That said, Dr. Lee's book was a New York Times best-seller—and, like other major news orgs, the news division of the paper decided to disappear it.

You can judge that decision as you like. No one has perfect judgment. 

That said, the candidate in question mas been making wild statements all across the fruited plain. In our view, newspapers like the New York Times have refused to come to terms with this blatantly obvious fact.

The cats and the dogs are the latest example, but the examples go on and on. As they do, the very fine people at our finest news orgs—many went to "the finest schools"—seem to have agreed that life is better, and possibly easier, when we ignore this fact.

Presidential TV debates began in 1960. There has never been another candidate as disordered as the candidate under review.

No candidate ever went on the debate stage and alleged the eating of cats and dogs. Then too, no candidate ever made statements as visibly crazy—as blatantly false—as many of the other statements this candidate made last Tuesday night.

Muir and Davis were forced to decide, on the fly, as to what they should probably do.

We won't try to list his many crazy statements of the past few weeks—his crazy claims about the rally crowd which wasn't there; his subsequent claim about the rally crowds which are getting paid and brought in on buses; his ongoing claims about the cognitive tests he amazingly aced, in a way no one else has ever done.

His inexcusable claims, which never stop, about the way the last election was supposedly stolen. About the way he will win California this year if only the votes get counted.

Everyone knows that "something is wrong" with this particular candidate. Like other news orgs, the New York Times has refused to come to terms with this challenging state of affairs.

In our view, Candidate Harris was imperfect last week. With Candidate Trump, it was different.

The candidates weren't like that in 1960, when these debates began. The moderators of those debates didn't have to decide, on the fly, how to respond to the transparently crazy claims one of the hopefuls kept making.

At the Times, Aurora was buried on page A12. Springfield got buried inside the hard-copy paper as well.

For ourselves, we've said this every step of the way: 

When a president or a candidate makes the kind of crazy claims his particular candidate makes, that's front-page news every time! 

It's also news when the disordered star of our most-watched "cable news" channel keeps asking if Hunter Biden has started f*cking the first lady yet, now that Joe Biden has left the race.

That sort of thing happens on Fox every night. To appearances, the very fine people at a certain newspaper have decided that life is sweeter, but also possibly safer, if we all just avert our gaze.

Before June 27, the New York Times agreed not to see the infirmities of Candidate Biden. Now, the New York Times is refusing to see the infirmity of Candidate Trump.

Long ago and far away, a similar breakdown occurred. An emperor was parading around in a highly unusual new suit of clothes. But something kept his various subjects from seeing what was right there before them.

"Something we were withholding made us weak." So said Robert Frost, reciting from memory at President Kennedy's inauguration.

In the poem he recited that day, Frost was referring to colonial Americans before they decided to come to terms with the need for a new arrangement. In our view, something is being withheld today all over the mainstream press corps—even at sacred MSNBC, where the overpaid stars we're trained to adore refuse to tell you what's occurring on that other channel.

They've normalized the Fox News Channel. For years now, many news orgs have also normalized one candidate's new suit of clothes.

There's nothing to look at, these orgs seem to say. Nothing to see! Move along!

Many went to the finest schools—but what in the world did they do there?


62 comments:

  1. This is a stupid quibble that permits Somerby to chide the press for no good reason. Somerby complains because the moderator did not ask Trump to substantiate his false statements instead of the moderator fact-checking them and stating the truth.

    Trump told 55 lies during the debate. There would not be sufficient time to confront Trump on each lie and ask him to substantiate each one. Trump would have done all the speaking and no one believes he can substantiate a whole cloth lie (like Somerby’s example) so Trump would ramble on in the extra time given him.

    The moderators already gave him extra time whenever he grabbed the mic and insisted he be allowed to rebut Harris. This approach demanded by Somerby would compound that imbalance.

    This has to be the stupidest post I’ve sern Somerby make and it has no purpose beyond throwing gorilla dust over whether Walz said 9-month or post-birth abortions are OK. He didn’t, something Somerby never directly states, thereby advancing that MAGA talking point while taking a swipe at the press and implying they were unfair to Trump. Whatta fine liberal our Somerby is!

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  2. “ So said Robert Frost, reciting from memory at President Kennedy's inauguration.”

    Of course Frost recited his own poem from memory. Just as no one in a play reads their lines from a script. That is how it is always done, not some wondrous feat of memory by Frost. Talk about fatuous, Somerby takes the cake.

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  3. Somerby repeats over and over that Harris was imperfect because he disagrees with her characterization of Trump’s remark about the good people among the Nazis in Charlottesville. Most liberals agree with Harris, not Somerby on the one. So Harris loses points with Somerby for being liberal — the rest of us don’t fault her for that. But Somerby calls he “imperfect” over and over throughout his essay, bringing up nothing else she did wrong, but damning her for calling Trump what he plainly is, a neo-Nazi sympathiser.

    When Trump is so horrible, it is irresponsible to attack Harris for this difference of opinion over Trump’s wording (not Harris’s) to the point of denigrating her repeatedly when she is our country’s main hope for a sane future. But Harris is “imperfect”! Somerby isn’t stupid so he must be venal when he writes this stuff.

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  4. The press isn’t the problem.

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  5. The NYTimes helped push Biden out of the race by running numerous stories about his age, well before the debate. It makes no sense when Somerby claims they overlooked his infirmities. They talked about his gaffes, those doctored videos that made Biden look confused, Hur’s memory claims. They did nothing but smear Biden. Somerby is wrong.

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    1. A smear is false. Was it false that Biden regularly showed signs of dementia? (no, it was not. give it up. let it go. you are, as they say, on the wrong side of history).

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    2. 11:39 gets it about right. Biden did not regularly show signs of dementia, and professional people that interact with regularly say his cognition is fine.

      Trump displays greater signs of cognitive decline and addled thinking; it is relevant to note the asymmetrical reporting in corporate media on this aspect between Biden and Trump.

      To be fair, corporate media seem to view Dems as being more actionable on media narrative manipulation, they seem to recognize that right wingers are more stuck in their positions and therefore reporting on Trump’s decline is more futile in terms of the media exerting influence.

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    3. It was, and remains, false that Biden shows signs of dementia. He shows signs of normal aging, which is not the same as dementia (a disorder of both aged and middled aged people who have early-onset dementia). Biden is continuing to function as president, something that would not be occurring if he had dementia. The press may have been able to push Biden aside as nominee (based on the undesirability of his being in the presidency for another 4 years), but they have not removed him as president BECAUSE there is no evidence he is not functioning well in a highly demanding, stressful job that requires all of one's faculties.

      It is reasonable to apply the same standard to Trump, who spent most of his time as president engaged in playing golf, "executive time" (watching TV, napping, talking by phone with long-time cronies such as Sean Hannity) and throwing temper tantrums. Just as Trump's team could not get him to approximate a functioning president, they cannot get him to campaign effectively now, his napping has grown worse, and he cannot string two thoughts together without emitting hilariously wrong statements in public. But Somerby claims that Harris imperfect.

      I agree with Jeff Tiedrich (from Everyone is Entitled to My Own Opinion on Substack), who wrote:

      "Kamala is running a near-perfect campaign and it’s driving the press insane -- the media’s in a sour mood because Kamala’s fucking with their Narrative"

      This can be said of Somerby as well. He really really really wants to find something wrong with her campaign but she isn't messing up.

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    4. https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/kamala-is-running-a-near-perfect

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    5. he cannot string two thoughts together without emitting hilariously wrong statements in public. But Somerby claims that Harris (is) imperfect.

      I don't suppose you realize the first statement implies nothing about the second.

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    6. The first statement makes the subsequent criticisms of Harris for being "imperfect" seem ludicrous because of the wideness of the gulf in Somerby's double standard for the two candidates running against each other. Why does Trump get to be so crazy while Harris is expected to be perfect?

      The existence of a double standard is being illustrated. That this IS a double standard may be implied but that is inherent in the FACT that these two candidates are running against each other in the same election.

      You should be able to follow that, sonny boy.

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  6. According to Somerby, a literal crazy person is running for president.

    According to Somerby, that person’s craziness is downplayed and normalized by major news orgs.

    According to Somerby’s anonymous commenters, Somerby is stupid, fatuous, irresponsible, venal, and wrong.

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    1. Quick! The smelling salts!

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    2. The fainting couch!

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    3. Clutch your pearls!

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    4. I haven't seen many commenters here taking issue with Somerby's statements about Trump's craziness and the way the press normalizes Trump's behavior, except David in Cal, Cecelia and an occasional other right winger.

      The liberal commenters here are taking issue with Somerby's contention that Kamala Harris is a bad campaigner, a mediocre candidate who gives too few interviews or has non-specific plans/policies. We object that Somerby advances the other right wing criticisms of Harris which Somerby agrees with and gives a platform to here. We also disagree with the way Somerby keeps promoting Gutfeld while pretending to dislike his brand of humor. And we point out the way Somerby manages to insert the right wing talking point of the day into his various criticisms of the press. That makes us doubt that Somerby is truly supporting Harris or is much of a liberal.

      This has been explained to PP many times, but he persists in deliberately misunderstanding the beef we liberals have with Somerby, as he does today when he claims that because Somerby calls Trump crazy, he cannot be a right winger, ignoring most of what is said here in comments.

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    5. PP is the JD Vance of commenters.

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  7. Somerby suggests that corporate media has dropped the ball on reporting about Dr Lee’s assessments of Trump and his fanboys, and on reporting about the fake news relating to Springfield and Aurora; this is debatable but not unreasonable.

    OTOH, due to the democratization of media, independent outlets have regularly featured Dr Lee and similar experts, and have thoroughly covered the Springfield and Aurora hoaxes spread by Trump. These outlets have a viewership that dwarfs that of Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, and the NY Times.

    Somerby defends Trump’s “fine people” (and other similar cases, like Bush’s 16 words) because it employs a similar slick and slimy tactic that Somerby also likes to employ in order to con his readers as he attempts to manufacture ignorance. Somerby often leans into literal readings, but with “fine people” suddenly he wants everyone to consider the context; however, Trump literally said those words, and within the broader context of Trump’s historical rhetoric and stances, it is clear he was referring to racists. Hitler gave an infamous speech where he literally referred to Jews as being “tormented” by others and scolded the democracies of the world for being “hard-hearted” in refusing to help the Jews; Somerby could have said “see, Hitler supports the Jews”.

    Somerby is not just a poor thinker, but a bad actor as well, using disingenuous rhetoric to push his right wing agenda of supporting hierarchies where elitists dominate the masses.

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    1. Ah. So now Somerby is akin to Hitler.

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    2. anonymouse 12:25, we certainly don't like how Trump strangles the truth constantly. But that's what you do day after day, with this bizarre obsessiive quest to expose TDH as a Trump supporter. The difference is that Trump might get elected president again, but there's no danger of that happening with you. The only harm you do is insulting people's intelligence.

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    3. PP, thanks for reading 12:25’s interesting comment, but your interpretation of it is more akin to flinging poo.

      Their point was not the Somerby is akin to Hitler, but that applying Somerby’s criteria in defending Trump could result in defending Hitler as well; therefore, the concern is not that Somerby would actually defend Hitler, but that the criteria is flawed and weak, and enables ignorance.

      While the commenter did not draw a parallel between Somerby and Hitler, it is notable that Vance did in fact refer to Trump as “America’s Hitler”.

      Furthermore, Vance’s philosophical guru, Curtis Yarvin, uses similar rhetorical tricks to Somerby, and shares similar ideas on democracy and media.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

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    4. Oh, I see. It’s not that 12:25 was equating Somerby to Hitler; instead 12:25 was equating Somerby to Goebbels. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    5. We may not know if Somerby is a Trump supporter in all aspects, it’s debatable, he may be, anything is possible, but he is certainly a Trump defender.

      Also 12:25’s pushback against ignorance outweighs the delicate sensitivities of sad lost souls like the woe is me ac/ma, who we all hope can find some peace from the supposed torture of reading comments that challenge his ignorant views.

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    6. Oh, I see. When PP gets all up in his feelings, he flings poo poo. Same old dumb playbook from PP.

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    7. But for some reason I don’t remember Goebbels telling everyone that Hitler was crazy as a loon.

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    8. “Manufacturing ignorance” and “flinging poo.” Don’t you have the wit the come up with something new?

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    9. The commenter does not compare Somerby to Hitler or Goebbels, and not by implication or inference either. You are just making all that up, so poo flinging and manufacturing ignorance are apt descriptors.

      All you are conveying is that you are ignorant and overly sensitive. As Somerby recommends, I do pity you for the circumstances you have suffered that led you to such a sorry and sad state.

      I am neither smirking at nor gleeful of your insistence in publicly faceplanting, it is surely a grave concern for society.

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    10. 1:25 - “[Somerby] is certainly a Trump defender.”

      “[N]o candidate ever made statements as visibly crazy—as blatantly false—as many of the other statements [Trump] made.”

      Now there’s a stout defense of Trump!

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    11. "Somerby often leans into literal readings, but with “fine people” suddenly he wants everyone to consider the context"

      The only 'context' Somerby wants people to consider is this concrete, specific quote from Trump made in the same remarks as 'fine people':

      "I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally"

      There, now you've read the truth. Not so hard, was it?

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    12. Luckily for all of us interested voters, we have a media that will never in a million years ask Trump who the good people on the Right are.
      Which reminds me, does anyone know of a media criticism blog?

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    13. Perhaps Trump was talking about the same fine people as the mythical Republican voter, who cares about something other than bigotry and white supremacy.

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    14. Just because they can't be named, there are no photos of them, and they can't be described in any way other than "they aren't neo-Nazis and white nationalists', doesn't mean they don't exist.
      Take Trump's word for it. He would never lie about such a thing.

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    15. Anyone who isn't a bigot, or isn't perfectly fine with bigotry, left the Republican Party more than two dozen years ago.

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    16. 9:15 & 10:04 - I hate to break it to you, but you’re the bigots.

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    17. @9:24 The point isn't whether there really were fine people on both sides or whether Nazis or white nationalists exist. The point is, Kamala continues to lie through her teeth about what Trump said.

      If you want to argue about whether Trump is a bigger liar than Harris, be my guest. In my book, they're both liars.

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    18. David,
      Harris said Trump was referring to neo-Nazis and white supremacists. If you want to make the argument he was referring to some other people on the Right who attended the "Unite the Right" march, and weren't neo-Nazis and white supremacists, who were they?
      Let me help you out, if you were in a room full of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and "fine people" on the Right who were at the "Unite the Right" march in Charlottesville, how could you tell them apart?

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    19. The fine people were the ones cheering on the other two groups.

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  8. A snake oil salesman outwardly claims to be concerned about various ailments, and inwardly is exhilarated by the circumstance that there does seem to be a sucker born every minute.

    Con men say the darnedest things! Who knew?

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  9. In the debate with Biden Trump looked at the President and said "He would kill the baby even after it's born." This has something to do with something the onetime Governor of West Virginia said I believe. I've sort of had an eye out for a fact check on this. Fair play to the former Governor of West Virginia and all.
    But Trump has been repeating this garbage for quite some time. Maybe Bob missed it because he doesn't watch MSNBC. Maybe he got up to pee during the debate with Biden.
    In any event Davis was probably expecting it. His comment was right on because Trump's nonsense about abortion is based on the repetition that it's all up to the States to decide. The claim is so outlandish that Davis probably felt is was just the sort of thing that could incite violence in the feeble minded, and he's probably correct.
    It was also a sort of Hail Mary to try and regain some journalistic integrity they had in times when saner heads were at the wheel. You know, just like Bob pretends to pine for all the time.

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    1. Agree, Davis’ technique in handling Trump’s falsehood was excellent and effective.

      It was the governor of VA, who did not endorse infanticide (duh), but was referencing rare but real life occurrences where a non viable baby is born and how legislation can guide and protect the decision of the parents and the doctors.

      https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ralph-northam-virginia-abortion-952598071326

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    2. It is also worth noting that the Virgian governor in question, Ralph Northam, is an M.D. who served in the Army Medical Corps. In the quote that is famously misreported on the right, Northam was describing current practices under existing laws, not advocating for a change in the law. He was describing how a case would be handled in which a baby is born with a fatal condition.

      Trump routinely twists this into an execution scenario.

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    3. Gah. Virginia, not Virgian. My typing skills are deteriorating.

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  10. I'm very confused.

    Our Host quotes Linsey Davis saying this:

    DAVIS: There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.

    Our Host notes the following:
    Davis made an accurate statement, but it wasn't directly relevant to anything Candidate Trump had said.

    Then Our Host follows this observation directly saying that a poisonous claim by Trump had "gone unmentioned":

    "Her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth—it's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born—is okay. And that's not okay with me."

    Isn't Davis' fact check directly relevant to the supposedly unmentioned claim? Trump claims that Walz is okay with executing babies. Davis notes that executing babies is not legal in any of the 50 states. It seems to me that her fact check is directly relevant to the supposedly "unmentioned" poisonous claim.

    What am I missing?

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    1. You are conflating the difference between addressing a legal reality and a personal accusation. The poisonous claim concerned Walz's beliefs, not the legality of killing a baby after birth. Davis’s statement that infanticide is illegal in all states was broadly relevant to Trump’s claim, but it didn’t directly address the personal accusation Trump made about Walz’s views.

      A directly relevant fact-check would have explicitly refuted Trump’s mischaracterization of Walz’s stance. For example: "There is no evidence that Candidate Walz supports, or has ever said, anything remotely close to endorsing infanticide or execution after birth."

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    2. Immediately before his comment about Walz, Trump said this:

      "He said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby."

      The fact check was relevant to that statement, wasn't it?

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    3. Was Trump making that statement to comment on what is legally possible?

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    4. I think everyone is missing the point. The question put to Trump was why he changed his position on the Florida ballot initiative.

      LINSEY DAVIS: ........Then last month you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short and you said, "I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks." But then the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban. Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because you've changed your position so many times. Therefore, why should they trust you?

      FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is, they have abortion in the ninth month.

      FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: And that's why I did that, because that predominates. Because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that.

      Once again, Trump spewed absolute bullshit. The Florida Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion, does not in any way shape or form propose abortion up to the ninth month or after birth. That is total bullshit which the media has been letting this fucking orange abomination repeat over and over again.

      The proper retort to trump's bullshit was to challenge him on that point. The ballot initiative is not an either/or proposition, 6-week ban or no ban whatsoever.

      Frustratingly nobody called him on this bullshit response, neither Davis or Harris.

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    5. So much Trumpian bullshit. So little time.

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  11. "journalist: “before we conclude, Madam Vice President, ‘joyful warrior’ has been used to describe your campaign, and your opponent and Republicans have at times weaponized your laughing in campaign ads, for example. why is joy important to you to insert into this election, and what do you make of Republicans using that as way to suggest that you’re not a serious candidate?”
    Kamala: “I'll say to whoever the young people are who are watching this: there are some times when your adversaries will try to turn your strength into a weakness. don’t you let them. don’t you let them. I find joy in the American people. I find joy in optimism — in what I see to be our future, and our ability to invest in it. I find joy in the ambition of the people. I find joy in the dreams of the people. I find joy in building community. I find joy in building coalitions. I find joy in believing that the true measure of the strength of a leader is not who you beat down, but who you lift up. and we should all find joy, and have a sense of optimism about who we are as Americans and what we mean to each other, and what we can do to lift each other up.”

    sorry, media — Kamala is running a near-perfect campaign. if you’re waiting for her to slip up, it ain’t gonna happen."

    Tiedrich quotes from Harris's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists. In contrast, he describes Trump's appearance before the same group as follows:

    "when Donny Convict sat down with National Association of Black Journalists, it was a fucking disaster. it’s where he made his famous “Kamala only recently became black” remark. the interview was such a crazypants train wreck that his own people pulled the plug and hustled him off stage after only half an hour.

    Kamala’s sit-down with the NABJ was a different story — she was sane. she didn’t say crazy shit, leaving Politico to whine that she refused to veer off script.

    the media pulled this shit on the email lady, too, with their constant inane complaints about how she was too prepared."

    Hillary was acknowledged to be the best prepared candidate (male or female) in our country's history, but Somerby called her a terrible campaigner. Because haters gonna hate, especially incels like Somerby, who can only find her smile to praise.

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    1. To be clear, Somerby has praised Harris's smile, not Hillary's.

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    2. To be clear, calling Somerby an “incel” seems like something a hater would do.

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  12. Tim Walz says something true. https://x.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1837676370992026059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1837676370992026059%7Ctwgr%5Effd50d6421c4e59b02f4167835507bcf1bea2442%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F673695%2F

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    1. What's your thoughts on your candidate supporting a self-proclaimed Nazi for governor in NC, you treasonous fascist bastard?

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    2. Another deceptively edited video, David? You're making a habit of this sort of thing.

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    3. DIC has discredited himself via links with nearly 100% frequency, to the point that it is no longer worth the effort, as minuscule as that may be, to raise a finger to open them.

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  13. As I've mentioned repeatedly, it wasn't that the emperor had new clothes, but that he was naked, which the people noticed but were afraid to tell him because he was the emperor and thus powerful. That nakedness implies transparency, which would be a good thing for the press or anyone else to adopt. But who is the emperor? It cannot be the press because the press understands what it is doing. It could be Trump, but Trump is wearing some pretty awful clothes. So what is Somerby actually saying? It makes no sense.

    If Somerby is going to grab these works by others as metaphors, he really should pay attention to the content of the work he steals. In the case of Hans Christian Andersen, the stories are written by an author in relatively modern times. These are not folk tales or nursery rhymes but stories created by Andersen, by which he earned his living during his lifetime. He deserves respect.

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    1. But it isn't exactly that the emperor was naked. It was that no one would say that the emperor was naked.

      Similarly, in analysis/discussion of political debates, and of much of what passes for political discourse, Somerby's point is that no one will admit how little sense any of it makes.

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    2. Hector - Thanks for doing the CliffsNotes for those who face some challenges in their reading comprehension.

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    3. You're welcome, PP.

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    4. The story of the Emperor's New Clothes is not that people noticed the emperor was naked but were too afraid to say anything because of his power although that is a common misinterpretation of it. The story is that everyone was fooled. The people don't refrain from telling the truth out of fear, they are too afraid to look stupid so they convince themselves he is wearing clothes. It's a story about mass delusion and how social conformity perpetuates falsehoods until someone has the courage to speak the truth.

      Sadly, your quixotic crusade to own Somerby lives to see another day.

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