Mad love for the random event: Breaking! Roughly 330 million people live in the United States.
That's a large number of people. At any given point in time, someone is doing something stupid, unfortunate or even imperfect concerning whatever particular topic floats your particular boat.
Then too, there are the weird random events, in which people are suddenly forced to react to some highly unusual circumstance. This used to be known as Candid Camera. Now we pretend it's the news.
Sometimes the people thus importuned are even high school students. At such moments, our only dumber demographic—upper-end mainstream professional journalists—will find themselves compelled to determine the "meaning" of such events. This has been happening all week long as a string of professional journalists have been playing Rashomon with a new Mona Lisa smile.
That smile belongs to one Nick Sandmann, and Sandmann's a high school junior. In this morning's Washington Post, the newspaper's identity columnist cites the youngster's mysterious smile, then starts unpacking its meaning:
HESSE (1/24/19): It's the smile that we've been dissecting all week.According to the ballyhooed journalist, the 16-year-old junior in high school had uncorked "an interesting sentence." She began to crawl inside his head, entertaining us rubes as she went.
Sandmann meant it to defuse the situation, he told [NBC's Savannah] Guthrie. He said he was trying to communicate to Phillips that, “This is the best you’re going to get from me.”
That was an interesting sentence. It implied Sandmann thought a senior citizen with a drum was trying to “get” something more from him. In Sandmann’s mind, Phillips had come to provoke, rather than bring peace.
Is provocation a chant and a drum, or is provocation a flat smile and a decision not to move? (“As far as standing there, I had every right to do so,” Sandmann said.) Which one of them is the peaceful act, which one could be misinterpreted?
Sandmann, who is 16 years old, had been thrown into one of those weird random events which force people to react. A bunch of crackpots had been yelling homophobic slurs at the high school students, and then a Native American elder showed up beating his drum.
There is basically zero significance to this once in a lifetime event. But our journalists, who live off amusement and distraction, have been skillfully trained to do this:
HESSE: How do we talk about kids? How do we talk about the distinctions between teenage cluelessness, and bad behavior, and bad behavior that's really racism?That writing—more accurately, that navel-gazing—is so dumb it squeaks. This time, Hesse has found "a tiny linguistic quirk" in which the 16-year-old is seen to be implying something, something he shouldn't imply.
How do we use that word, “kid,” when we’re talking about white boys and white girls and black boys and black girls and rich kids and poor kids?
The Covington Catholic students were minors who were apparently mature enough to participate in the abortion debate—one of the most complicated issues of our time, and what brought them to Washington—but not mature enough to walk away from hecklers.
“I wish we could have just walked away,” Sandmann said a few times Wednesday, while saying he wished Phillips “would have” walked away: a tiny linguistic quirk implying he didn’t have the option to leave, but Phillips did.
But I quibble.
"But I quibble," Hesse intones, as she does throughout the piece, in which she endlessly quibbles, in this case about a quirk. Next, she offers this:
HESSE (continuing directly): How do we parse out blame, when some of the players were minors and some were adults? Does it matter that the Black Hebrew Israelites were shouting awful, homophobic things (anyone in D.C. knows these men are trolls), but there were only five or six of them, and dozens of Covington students in MAGA hats?Self-flagellating about her quibbles, the columnist quibbles on. There were dozens of high school students, she observes, but only five or six crackpots shouting homophobic slurs.
Does it matter that they were in MAGA hats? It’s hard for me to imagine anyone wearing them now, in 2019, wouldn’t understand they’re not just a sartorial choice.
But I quibble. I know I quibble.
Then we get to the MAGA hats. Allegedly, it's hard for her "to imagine anyone wearing them now, in 2019, wouldn’t understand they’re not just a sartorial choice."
Given the fact that the "anyones" in question are a bunch of high school kids, the sheer stupidity of that statement says a great deal about the columnist, nothing about the "kids." If that's an acceptable word!
The attitudes of boys and young men are very, very important. Among boys and young men who are straight, are they being helped to know how to love and respect the girls and women their inner beings will want them to love throughout the course of their lives?
When it comes to matters of "race," are they being helped to see past the idea that there are different kinds of people within our society—an idea we liberals now promote with all our hearts, thus enabling the hyper-racial mentality which lies at the heart of "the world the slaveholders made?"
Those are deeply important questions. At this site, we'd like to think that 16-year-old boys are being taught that their happiness in life will depend on their ability to love and respect girls and women. We'd like to think that they're being helped to see beyond the concepts which form the world those destructive past citizens made.
We'd love to see such topics explored in our journalism. But in the world of upper-end scribes, the love of the quibble is endless. So is the love of the off-the-wall random event, the kind of event which lets us dissect the meaning of a single teenager's mysterious smile.
Over the years, these same criminals have shown their love for earth tones, bald spots, email flaps, and every possible distraction from the questions which actually matter. Beyond that, they've hailed every flimflam man in the firmament for his obvious moral greatness, from Paul Ryan on down.
They quibble, invent and entertain, and they destroy the world. They've mugged and clowned and entertained us for the past forty years. Finally, in November 2016, they succeeded in giving us our President Donald J. Trump.
They want us to think we're the rational animal. Big picture gestalt and framework-wise, is it possible that Aristotle, at least as understood, was in some basic way wrong?
Just for the record: Just for the record, Guthrie was one of the people at NBC who didn't have the slightest idea about what their colleague, Matt Lauer, had been doing down through the years.
Everyone knew but no one had heard! Guthrie was rushed on the air the next day to join Hoda in proclaiming sheer and total ignorance about their colleague's conduct. As it turned out, Norah and them had no idea concerning Charlie Rose!
These are the careerist graspers and grabbers who have made an endless joke of our public discourse, to the point where we now have Herr Trump in the White House. Meanwhile, was sex with the Donald the best she ever had?
That was Diane Sawyer, speaking with Marla Maples, as she created her own multimillion dollar career. Not long after, in June 1999, she mugged the newly-announced Candidate Gore, on network TV, in all the scripted ways. Years later, Sawyer complained that Candidate Hillary Clinton seemed to have too much money!
They've done this and done this and done this again. Right to this day, all our favorite careerist liberals are still unwilling to say so.
This issue has again energized Trump voters to look forward to reelecting him. Which means it also has motivated some who sat out the last election to show up. It's doubtful there are any more left wing loonies who react to a kid in a hat to squeeze out for the Democrat. All lefty bigots have to do is not be crazy and they can't do it.
ReplyDelete"This issue has again energized Trump voters to look forward to reelecting him. "
DeleteEven more than his bigotry? I'm going to need some proof before i buy what you're selling.
Did you see that the rules committee of the RNC is proposing that there be no Republican primary at all, so that energy won't be split from reelecting Trump. That sounds like they are scared that Trump will be primaried and are rigging the election to prevent anyone from challenging him from the right.
DeleteOnce again, Republicans are willing to destroy our democratic system in order to keep this man in office. Is this part of more Russian collusion or is it coming from American oligarchs, or has Trump (or his puppetmasters) merely paid off some ambitious people? Whatever the case, Republicans are losing their right to participate in the democratic process by voting against this guy and for a Republican of their own choosing.
Shouldn't someone be getting angry about this, or at least investigating it?
Anon @12:51 pm is not saying anything that Somerby hasn’t already said himself.
DeleteIt’s odd, given the current polling showing a downward slide for Trump.
It’s also odd that it is supposed to energize votes *for Trump*. Why not for the GOP? It’s as if Trump is the true nexus of resentment voters.
2:37,
DeleteTrump is the GOP. It will be important to remember this when the shit hits the fan.
If we don't shiv the GOP's lifeboats this time, they will come back even worse (again).
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Where did Somerby's emphasis on sex come from? The events he cites are not about girls or women or sexual assault. They are about a group of boys confronting a male Native American person and a group of several African American men. So why is Somerby veering off into sexual territory?
ReplyDelete"He said he was trying to communicate to Phillips that, “This is the best you’re going to get from me.”
ReplyDeleteSomerby objects because a journalist, Hesse, takes an inference that Sandmann thought Phillips was trying to get something from him. I think that is a fair inference, given that Sandmann used the word "get" himself. That isn't a linguistic quibble. It is there in Sandmann's choice of words. Obviously, Somerby is of the "a cigar is always just as cigar" school of analysis, since he objects to all attempts to infer the unstated from what is said, but he also seems to want to declare people mentally ill on the same basis and I'm not sure how you can do that without making some inferences.
Anyone with training as a therapist knows that people often smile when they are anxious. Smiling is often not about enjoyment but can also be a mask for other feelings. Few people are not made anxious when someone invades their personal space (closer than two feet for most Americans). It wouldn't be surprising to wonder "what does this person want from me" in response to someone drumming in your face. If it were me, I would wonder how I was supposed to react -- is a tip required, can I leave before the song ends without seeming rude, am I supposed to sing along, and so on. Many people are anxious in undefined social situations.
I disagree that he was smirking. A smirk requires uneven muscle contraction so that one corner of the mouth is higher than the other. It conveys contempt or social superiority. You cannot see a smirk in the camera angles posted online. But people may be inferring a smirk from the racial dynamics and that seems to me to be the mistaken interpretation, the projection onto Sandmann's behavior. But Somerby doesn't have the training to make this objection, although he clearly wants to object to something. So he pick's Hesse's defensible interpretation.
It is very silly to blame people for interpreting situations when that is what people routinely, naturally, unconsciously and automatically do whenever they engage in any social situation in real life. Somerby does it too. The only people who don't do this are folks with deficits, such as people with autism or brain injury. The unspoken is just as important, and often more important, as a source of information, as the content of people's spoken words. If Somerby had ever taken a psychology course at Harvard, he would know that. If he ever read anything besides books about Einstein, he would know it. But he is a major rube (or pretending ignorance for other reasons) when it comes to human behavior.
Inability to read an audience may be part of his lack of success in stand up comedy. It would also be a handicap in romantic situations and Somerby has never been married. Somehow he managed not to bring up Stormy Daniels this time -- good self control, Somerby.
DeleteThose young men went to DC to confront other people with their views on abortion and Trump (the hats are a political statement too). They got confronted in return. Sounds like a good learning opportunity for everyone.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone mentioned the privilege inherent in Sandmann's family's ability to hire a P.R. person to issue a statement on his behalf?
Sandmann reminds me of a young Ted Cruz. Eager to participate in conservative politics, discovering that his artificial jerky smile will make him unlikable even in situations where he might be considered the victim.
"That was Diane Sawyer, speaking with Marla Maples, as she created her own multimillion dollar career."
ReplyDeleteDiana Sawyer worked in the Nixon White House throughout his administration and during the transition to Ford's presidency. So, she was on the ground floor during Watergate. She later helped Nixon write his autobiography. That put her in the position to be hired by CBS as a political commentator. It should be unsurprising that she has favored conservative candidates and was not a Gore or Hillary fan.
Notice how Somerby trivializes both Sawyer and her career by implying that she attained fame by asking Marla Maples about Trump's sex life. Sawyer isn't my favorite person but she earned her way up talking about a much wider variety of political topics than Somerby acknowledges. By reducing women to sex, he does what men tend to do when threatened by women, he makes them into sex objects, not people but vehicles for men's sexual enjoyment -- much as Maples was herself objectified by Trump.
Is Somerby liberal? Don't know, but he definitely isn't a feminist and he doesn't understand how liberals now regard women, as fully functioning human beings with abilities and potential equivalent to men. Today's remarks about Sawyer make Somerby a first-class ass.
‘When it comes to matters of "race," are they being helped to see past the idea that there are different kinds of people within our society—an idea we liberals now promote with all our hearts, thus enabling the hyper-racial mentality which lies at the heart of "the world the slaveholders made?"’
ReplyDeleteThis is an example of how Somerby calls himself a liberal but characterizes liberals in a way that few actual liberals would agree with.
He’s making a point about what some call “identity politics.” But he is fully embracing the conservative view of it, which objects to liberals advocating for gay rights, women’s rights, civil rights, etc, as if this were exclusionary of other groups.
It is a misreading of the situation, in my view.
“Slaveholders” didn’t invent racism or bigotry. It’s as old as humanity. In fact, after “slaveholding” was abolished here, racism festered and grew to enormous proportions. It took root in ordinary citizens, and did not depend on an elite group of slaveholders for its existence.
There is no single point in our history after which racism or bigotry ceased to exist. Any fight for the rights of an oppressed group necessarily refers specifically to that group as a group. To talk about gay marriage means to focus on gay people asking for that right. To talk about equal pay for women involves talking about the specific status and history of women as a group. But it is incorrect to claim that this implies a degradation of other groups.
Ultimately, it is an existential question that Somerby is confronted with: does he believe fighting for oppressed or marginalized groups is an important aspect of liberalism, one that speaks to the needs and desires of real people, or one that should be ignored or subsumed in some other approach to politics that he feels is lacking? Or can the two not co-exist?
It is a definitional question.
"are they being helped to see past the idea that there are different kinds of people within our society..."
DeleteThe capacity to see similarities and differences are part of human cognition. You cannot look at both the similarities and the differences at the same time, just as you cannot see the whole (big picture) and the parts at the same time, cannot be analytical and synthesizing at the same time. But both aspects of cognition are part of human thinking, regardless of which is being emphasized at a given moment in time, in a discussion or in a political movement.
Republicans claim to be "big tent" in the sense that they include all comers in their party. But they do focus on differences both as individuals and as a party. Similarly, Democrats tend to focus on differences for purposes of civil rights and improvement of conditions for people whose differences exclude them from full participation in society, but they do this because they see all of humanity as one people, with the same rights, privileges and opportunities.
Somerby omits the holistic parts of liberal thinking and focuses only on the celebration of differences as part of what makes people interesting (Yevtushenko said all people are interesting, right?). Conservatives single out people for censure based on their differences, they discriminate based on those differences, they assign status based on them. They talk about unity but practice divisiveness. People in Houston get hurricane relief but people in Puerto Rico do not. People in certain neighborhoods have short lines in their polling places, people in other neighborhoods have long lines or non-working voting machines, or untrained poll staff, in order to suppress votes of some people while encouraging others. No equality of treatment there.
All people are capable of seeing both similarities and differences. It takes an act of will to shift attention and cognitive processes from one perspective to another but liberals are willing to make the effort whereas conservatives claim they are doing so when they are not, as evidenced by their behavior.
Somerby says it is wrong to focus on differences and we need to think only about sameness, to promote universal love. You cannot tell people it is wrong to think in ways that it is natural to think (e.g., be rational like Aristotle decrees, not the way your brain actually works). People cannot change how their brains operate. You CAN ask people to use all of their thinking abilities to think about people as BOTH multifacted and diverse AND ALSO sharing important commonalities that make them worthy of respect and inclusion despite their manifest differences. That is what liberals try to do, what conservatives do not do, and what Somerby does not do.
A better question is how absurd is it that this kid's family must obtain a PR firm over this bullshit?
ReplyDeleteNo more absurd than making believe that hat isn't a symbol of white supremacy.
DeleteThey didn't have to hire someone to protect him. They could have let him take his lumps, so that he might learn something from the experience, such as "if you poke a sleeping skunk, you might get sprayed."
DeleteWhat North Kentucky Catholic kid wearing a MAGA hat isn't?
DeleteDeath threats, threats to ruin your parents, and vilification to the point that it devastatingly affects your future are not the normal lumps and knocks that are rites of passage for careless youth.
DeleteYou address this by limiting his internet access until things blow over (a week at most). P.R. statements don't change any of that and it gives your kid the wrong message (e.g., that mom and dad will try to bail him out but are actually impotent). He would do better to memorize a little speech in the Powell's language, thanking him for his song and his wish of peace. But that might take some effort -- certainly more effort than wearing a hat and exchanging insults and tomahawk chops.
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DeleteThis psychodrama exercise of new age penitence certainly seems a more suitable sentence than what Sandmann has received at the hands of his critics.
DeleteAnd that fact says it all.
It wouldn't be penitence, it would be courtesy. It wouldn't be a punishment, it would be teaching him how to relate to people unlike himself and his crowd. Useful skills in adulthood. Parents should be role models, not participants in their childrens' scuffles. This is what people mean when they talk about "the adults in the room." Sandmann deserves adults for parents, but if he had them, perhaps he wouldn't be on a bus wearing a MAGA hat.
DeleteActually, we wouldn't be having this exchange if Sandmann hadn't been wearing the MAGA hat.
DeleteThis wouldn't have been even a local story. Let alone the tale that Nathan Phillips told, the media detonated, and inch by grudging inch have had to revise.
@cecelia:
DeleteWe are having this discussion because Somerby chose to blog about it.
No reportee, no blogee.
DeleteI assume Somerby has free will. Perhaps not.
DeleteSo is the moral of this story, "don't react to provocation" or "don't provoke others"?
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"These are the careerist graspers and grabbers who have made an endless joke of our public discourse, to the point where we now have Herr Trump in the White House."
ReplyDeleteNo one cares much about the media clowns, Bob (except for you, obviously). Hardly anyone is reading their sanctimonious liberal bullshit, or watching their nauseating TV shows. Well, a few very old, senile people, perhaps. But for them it ain't different from the old Jerry Springer show.
And Herr (is it supposed to be an insult? Nice going, Bob) Trump, God bless his heart, is here because of the globalist-neocon establishment, its sabotage of the national economy and its endless wars.
Sure, the establishment media clowns are playing a certain role in all this, but it's quite a minor role...
Doesn't hurt to remind everyone that Trump too is an immigrant, once removed.
DeleteYou forgot to mention the role of the Russians.
And Trump agreed to an obscene 750 billion dollar military budget, which goes against his campaign pledge to reduce it and any characterizations of him being anti-establishment, anti-elite and anti-war.
DeleteHaha - endless wars. Trump's special forces went into 140 countries last year - illegal droning and bombing just like Obama. Child, there ain't nothing different about Trump and America's endless wars.
DeleteMeh. A lot of difference, dembot.
DeleteWithout a doubt, the psycho-witched would've already started 4-5 new wars by now. And quite possibly a thermonuclear one.
And as far as the demigod Barry goes - there's a huge difference between supplying and protecting the Islamic State - and ...well, and not doing it. UGE difference for the people of Syria, and less chance to accidentally trigger The Big War, craved by the lib-zombie death-cult.
Iow: the difference between life and death, dembot.
LOL - life and death. You're masters hoodwinked you.good young child. Donnie is different! No more endless wars! You're crazy young'n. Wise up.
DeleteDonald Trump is:
• continuing the illegal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and other places,
• continuing the illegal torture of prisoners,
• continuing the illegal spying on Americans,
• continuing the illegal killing of civilians,
• illegally threatening to conduct preemptive wars against N. Korea and Venezuela,
• illegally threatening nuclear war against N. Korea
• using the CIA and military to illegally overthrow governments around the world.
You been fooled. You're the zombie.(too)
I agree what you.say about Hillary but you have to judge your master leader on his own merits and actions, beautiful, sweet young boy. Have a good day cutie pie.
DeleteI'm glad we agree on something, dembot.
DeleteHowever, in politics you don't judge the actors and events on their "own merits and actions" (whatever that means). You judge them in context, and only in context.
Otherwise, you might as well denounce the whole lot of them: Robespierre and Louis the 16th, Castro and Batista; forget all that, and go to a classical music concert.
"illegally threatening", dembot? Whoa. Call the cops, immediately.
DeleteObama,Trump, Bush - all oversee endless wars and all are subservient to the MIC. Sleep tight sweet boy.
DeleteIf The Donald was as subservient to the MIC as you say, dembot, then we wouldn't be observing the MIC establishment squealing, day and night, like stuck pigs, accusing him of everything unholy.
DeleteOn the contrary, he, as a faithful lackey of the MIC, would've been praised, endlessly, by the nytimes, cnn, nbs, cbs, etc.
Therefore, with regret I must inform you, dembot, that something's wrong with your hypothesis. It's contradicted by empirical observations...
Ok. Let's see if the endless wars he is overseeing now stop sometime in the future. And if he reduces the bloated military budgets etc. So far, the slaughter and graft continues unabated. Although he has done great in Syria. On the grand scale he hasn't moved the meter and maybe he or anyone else couldn't. Let's see. I agree that he wants to be different and is better than Clinton, Bush or Obama in that way.
DeleteMeh. Military budget is a different phenomenon.
DeleteFirst of all, it a mechanism for financing basic science and large-scale civilian projects (computing, the internet, the gps, nuclear power, space exploration, and what-not).
It also serves as a stimulus ('military keynesianism').
I don't think it's directly related to imperial wars...
Trump is:
Delete• continuing the illegal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and other places,
• continuing the illegal torture of prisoners,
• continuing the illegal spying on Americans,
• continuing the illegal killing of civilians,
• illegally threatening to conduct preemptive wars against N. Korea and Venezuela,
• illegally threatening nuclear war against N. Korea
• using the CIA and military to illegally overthrow governments around the world.
Call me if anything changes dumb fuck.
Dear dumb fuck, I need you copy-paste it the third time, please. Third time's the charm.
DeleteSomerby has not discussed the way the Sandmann incident became a news item. The media critic ought to wonder what forces were behind this and look into exact timelines. Instead, Somerby uses it to push his usual critique of liberals.
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ReplyDelete“The President, who constantly stokes fear and outrage with his alarmist and bigoted remarks, bears a lot of responsibility for our toxic political culture.
ReplyDelete“But he’s not the only force pushing us into destructive, thoughtless, warring camps.”
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Seems to me exactly what Bob is saying.
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The kid was wearing the uniform of White supremacy, while petitioning the government to subjugate women through forced childbirth.
DeleteDo you think context shouldn't be used in these situations?
"It's a 2,000 year old technique of divide and rule. All the people are getting ripped off, exposed to toxic assets, underpaid etc. All the people have a common concern re government and corporate corruption. If you take 70% of conservatives and 70% of liberals, you have an unstoppable political force."
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3FVoDVeG5E
Young white men do thoughtless evil things. If you say nothing, they keep doing that stuff, and because they have privilege and power, they do more harm.
Delete"The kid was wearing the uniform of White supremacy, while petitioning the government to subjugate women through forced childbirth.
ReplyDeleteDo you think context shouldn't be used in these situations?"
This commenter is the sucker whose hatred the corporate oligarchs nurture in order to keep her angry, fearful, dumb and distracted.
And all this time I thought it was the Breitbart comment section, which nurtured hatred for racism and misogyny.
DeleteIndian Country Today has the definitive videos of the Covington Incident
ReplyDeleteNo girls are allowed to attend their school. That has consequences. You can read this in studies on fraternities. Jesus Christ do some actual reading of sociology.
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