The Times' sexism exposed: How rational is our own liberal tribe?
Consider the framework which has evolved from our tribe's desire to get rid of Donald J. Trump.
Yesterday's major "get" from Michael Cohen involved a "hush money" payment. The payment went from Trump to Stormy Daniels, who was threatening to tell the world that she and Trump had consensual sex, on one occasion, in 2006.
(Trump says they didn't have sex at all. Frankly, we weren't there.)
We liberals! We keep saying that Trump "silenced" Daniels, as if that were a bad thing to do, and as if that wasn't what her agent was seeking. As we stampede this way, we advance the following lunatic notion:
Voters need to know if a candidate had sex with some person at some point in the past.This is a lunatic notion. It's the kind of idea which springs full-blown from the brains of a pre-rational people on a tribal stampede.
In fairness, who knows? Perhaps the Congress should pass two laws.
One law would require a candidate to release his tax returns. The other law would require him or her to release the names of all sex partners over the past twenty years. All sex partners, not just those currently seeking big paydays!
You have to be crazy—out of your mind—to think this framework makes sense. And yet, this lunacy lies at the heart of the way our self-impressed tribe is now thinking.
We're told that Trump committed a crime in paying Daniels to shut the heck up. Meanwhile, is it possible that it's actually Daniels who may have committed a crime?
Over Here in our liberal tents, our corporate leaders shield us from encountering such vile thoughts. Over in the other tribe, they aren't quite so sheltered. Back in December, to cite one example, The Others were allowed to hear this exchange concerning Daniels' conduct:
CARLSON (12/10/18): Is it unfair to describe this scenario as extortion? I say I know something about your sex life. I know a secret about you that you want to keep that's non-criminal, but that you want to keep hidden. And unless you pay me money, I'm going to reveal it.Under existing law, did Daniels commit extortion? We have no idea! You see, the corporate liberals who people our tribe's cable shows would never expose us to such an unhelpful idea.
That seems like textbook extortion to me. Why is it not?
DERSHOWITZ: It is absolutely textbook extortion. And there ought to be a prosecution of any person, man or woman, who approaches any candidate or anybody else and says, "Unless you pay me money, I'm going to reveal a sex act that occurred."
That is absolute classic extortion. And it's shocking that the special counsel looking into this, who has a broad mandate, he described it very broadly, isn't looking into the extortion committed by, at least, the porn star, whose lawyer obviously approached the candidate or the candidate's people, and threatened exposure. Otherwise, why would you pay?
They're paid to brainwash us, night after night, to keep us barefoot and clueless. And, as tribal and corporate beings, they happily hurl themselves into that task for millions of dollars per year.
(You can't be told how many.)
Donald J. Trump committed a crime, Stephanie Clifford didn't! This currently sacred group belief comes remarkably close to what Professor Harari means when he says that our war-like species, Homo sapiens, runs on a fuel he calls "fiction."
(We all agree on a sweeping group tale. This allows us to work as a group.)
Meanwhile, our various players keep advancing key elements of tribal lore, generally in the absence of any historical understanding or knowledge. Consider a letter which appeared in yesterday's New York Times.
As best we can tell, the self-assured writer of this letter is six years out of college (Cornell, class of 2012). Her letter concerns this recent report in the Times concerning allegations about Amy Klobuchar's treatment of staff.
The letter is steeped in current tribal narrative; it's clueless about recent history. This is the (pre-rational) mind of the stampeding tribe at work:
LETTER TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (2/27/19): We may never know whether Senator Amy Klobuchar’s aggrieved staff members are influenced by the fact that she is a woman. But we can be sure that the Times article is.The letter writer knows everything! She knows that the Times report was an example of "covert sexism." She knows that the Times has failed to do similar reporting about Klobuchar's "male counterparts."
Articles about Ms. Klobuchar’s behavior as a tyrannical boss stand out not because such behavior is unique, but because the same has not been written about her male counterparts.
This kind of covert sexism is dangerous so early in the 2020 contest because it sets the tone for the rest of the campaign. It also illuminates the importance of a press that takes responsibility for its influence on elections.
The last presidential race was tinged with sexist reporting, not in the language of its articles, but rather in their selection. Many of us will never forget the seemingly endless columns on Hillary Clinton’s emails.
This article about Ms. Klobuchar’s mean management style is in the same vein. Please do not make these same mistakes again.
(Presumably, this means those who ran for president, as Klobuchar is now doing.)
She knows that the coverage of Candidate Hillary Clinton was also "sexist reporting." She specifically cites "the seemingly endless columns on [her] emails."
The letter writer seems to believe that she knows these things. Mainly, though, she seems to know current tribal script.
She doesn't seem to know about the "seemingly endless" scandal reporting which dogged Hillary Clinton's (non-female) husband during the 1990s. This started with bungled front-page reporting in the Times about the Whitewater land deal.
She doesn't seem to know about the "seemingly endless" spillover which, starting in March 1999, turned into the deeply destructive twenty-month War Against Candidate Gore.
(That widely-trashed candidate was also non-female, except when deranged figures like Chris Matthews were trashing him as "today's man-woman" and, of course, as someone who "hired a woman [Naomi Wolf] to teach him to be a man." In subsequent races, John Edwards was "the Breck girl" and Barack Obama was "the diffident debutante." All in the New York Times!)
The writer doesn't know about these episodes because her liberal thought leaders don't discuss them, as part of a code of silence. In fairness, she doesn't know about that either, because she's never been told.
She assumes that Klobuchar actually has "male counterparts" whose treatment of staff matches hers. She feels no need to offer evidence in support of this implied claim—but that's because she's working from script, from a novelized tribal narrative.
She doesn't recall the way the mainstream press went after Candidate John McCain for his alleged anger management problems in the late fall of 1999.
(For David Broder's front-page report in the Washington Post, you can just click here. It was Broder who led the attack on Candidate Muskie for crying back in 1972—until he decided, many years later, that the widely-ridiculed candidate hadn't cried after all.)
She doesn't recall the way the mainstream press began to batter Candidate Bradley for his "aloof" behavior just a few months after they examined McCain's anger problem. Weird and reasonable alike, the examples go on and on.
Like the hedgehog, the writer knows only one thing—she knows her tribe's story-line. She tosses one of these stories off in a thoroughly pre-rational way. It's the way our species has behaved ever since our ancestors—"rational animals" all—drove the other human populations into extinction. Or so Harari says!
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but we humans aren't massively rational.
Our technology tends to work, but it's all downhill from there. This includes the thrashing and flailing which are now widespread within our own liberal tribe.
As a group, we liberals, humans all, just aren't enormously sharp. Until we understand this fact, we can't understand the way the world works or the way Trump came to power.
Tomorrow: More from the southern frontiers
Here's what Sarah Jones says: For ourselves, we tend to disfavor the type of "behind the scenes reporting" in which big newspapers like the Times assess the character of the various candidates.
Over the past thirty years, character judgments made by the Times (and by other such orgs) have routinely been comically wrong. Paul Ryan was judged the world's most upright man. Comey the God was "most upright" too; Al Gore was the world's biggest liar.
That said, should the Times be examining Klobuchar's treatment of staff? Sarah Jones, a progressive writer at New York magazine, says that yes, they should.
We link, you decide! For the record, they did this sort of thing to McCain, and he was "most upright" too!
"As a group, we liberals, humans all, just aren't enormously sharp."
ReplyDeleteMeh. Sharp's got nothing to do with it, Bob. All you need here it simple common sense that every, even extremely dumb, human possesses.
So, sadly, I have to reject your "liberals are humans who aren't sharp" hypotheses, Bob.
Zombies, Bob. You're all zombies.
Somerby can comfortably take his place alongside evil assholes like Tucker Carlson and Alan Dershowitz in imagining that it was *Clifford* who committed a crime.
ReplyDeleteThere is no evidence of extortion. But who needs evidence these days? Certainly not Carlson, Dershowitz, or Somerby.
And if Somerby thinks the hush money was the biggest “get” at yesterday’s hearing, he is a bigger dipshit than was previously imagined.
The biggest get was Cohen's new perjury.
DeleteCohen: Another one of "the best people".
DeleteWhat do you, dear dembots, think about your zombie-bosses organizing this bullshit hate-fest exactly at the time when the Best-Evah President of the US of A is abroad, negotiating a historic peace deal?
ReplyDeleteIf I was a bit more conspiracy-minded, I'd assume that your warlike death-cult was trying to sabotage the peace agreement.
What say you, psychos?
(snore)
DeleteAs evidence of “tribal narrative”, Somerby cites a writer of a letter to the New York Times. The writer complains that, in her view, the Times’ coverage of female candidates like Hillary Clinton and Amy Klobuchar was/is sexist. Now, Somerby himself complained about the email coverage, as does this writer. But the complaint, in order to be non-tribal, must apparently not mention “sexism.” That marks it as tribal, and is further evidence of a “failed tribe” apparently.
ReplyDeleteIt is bizarre that in the same post in which Somerby complains about our tribe and its so-called “corporate leaders”, by which he apparently means media people, such as those at The New York Times, he also chastises a supposed member of this tribe (the letter writer), who is *chastising her corporate leaders at the New York Times* for their coverage of female candidates, and who stresses “the importance of a press that takes responsibility for its influence on elections.” That latter has been Somerby’s message all along, but because the writer uses the S-word, he attacks *her.*
Somerby cannot or will not credit the letter writer’s perspective.
It is entirely possible that coverage of female candidates exhibits sexism. The trivial, misinformed reporting on male candidates doesn’t disprove that contention.
The point is the letter writer isn't aware of the misinformed reporting on male candidates because the corporate leaders disappeared it.
DeleteThe letter writer only knows the tribal storyline because the corporate leaders never talk about anything else.
She doesn't even know that the possibility of an alternate contention exists.
How presumptuous of you. You seem to know what she doesn’t know.
DeleteYes, I am presuming she does not know about misinformed reporting on previous male candidate's management behavior.
DeleteWhy? Since your whole objection is based on that presumption, we would say you have a weak argument. Not only have you not disproven sexism from the Times, you have not made a factual or logical argument regarding the letter writer.
DeleteWhy? Because previous male candidates have been accused of poor management in similar articles. Neither she nor you have proved that it is sexism or why similar misinformed reporting about male candidates is different.
DeleteOne notable difference is that the focus on trivial things such as appearance replaces coverage of substantive campaign issues, proposed programs and accomplishments for women, but not for men (despite their similar focus on trivialities of dress). That happens because men tend to get more coverage than women, so there is space for both to be discussed.
DeleteThere are actual studies of representation of women in the media, including ones that focused on Hillary in 2016 and others that review what happens to female candidates in general, across multiple candidates and elections. This doesn't have to rely on someone like Somerby's biased recollection.
Really? Was the letter writer referring to McCain or Bradley when she said “klobuchar’s counterparts”? And, which articles are you referring to? Somerby only links to one. The general narrative about McCain, need I remind you, was that he was a “maverick”, and that Bradley was “authentic”. Besides, the McCain article is a dubious comparison to the Klobuchar articles.
DeleteMy comment at 4:01 was directed at underbocky 3:31.
Delete“As we noted, MSNBC has been Misogyny Central over the course of the past dozen years. But no one made you ponder such facts as you got tribal pleasure this week. “
ReplyDeletehttp://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/03/heres-outrage-eternal-laws-of-tribe.html
Today:
“She knows that the coverage of Candidate Hillary Clinton was also "sexist reporting." She specifically cites "the seemingly endless columns on [her] emails."
The letter writer seems to believe that she knows these things. Mainly, though, she seems to know current tribal script.”
Not criticizing MSNBC for its misogyny was reprehensible and indicative of tribal failure back in 2012, when Somerby was certain of its existence. But today, in 2019, when a reader criticizes the Times for its sexism, we are to view that as the narrative of a failed tribe.
Did we say that Somerby was nuts?
You seem to be poorly researched and reasoned on this subject.
DeleteThe subject is Somerby’s own blog posts. They are staring you in the face.
DeleteYes, that was to what I was referring.
DeleteSo, Somerby complains about misogyny and sexism at the headquarters of our corporate leaders. No problem, eh? A letter writer complains about sexism at the headquarters of our corporate leaders, the Times, and that is “tribal narrative.”
DeleteThat makes Somerby a hypocrite.
2:24 That is poorly reasoned like I said.
DeleteYou have merely made an assertion. You are free to show the flaws in the reasoning.
DeleteWhat he said previously does not prove the claim of sexism by the letter writer. What you wrote is not even reasoning at all. If you want, prove the claim of sexism made by the letter writer. Then you can claim the blogger to be nuts accurately and reasonably.
DeleteI am not arguing whether the letter writer is right or wrong. I am making the point that Somerby calls a tribe a “failed tribe” because of a single letter writer. He is free to disagree with the letter writer, but it is hypocritical to dismiss it as simply “tribal narrative” when he himself has made similar charges in the past.
DeleteOk but that doesn't make sense. That is the logic of a child. If you can prove the charges of 2012 and the ones of the letter writer are equal in every way, you would have a case.
DeleteYou're funny.
One letter writer is not proof of a failed tribe. A charge of sexism is not proof of a tribal or false narrative. Somerby did not “prove” misogyny in 2012. According to him, such things can’t be proven, because they rely on knowledge of intent. But that didn’t stop him from making such a charge when it was convenient for him to criticize a certain failed tribe back in 2012.
DeleteYou don't have to prove the charges, you just have to prove they are equal because if you can't, it's a false equivalence and illogical.
DeleteLol. You're funny!
I don't think you really thought this through but I respect you and I respect your opinion. Maybe I'm the one who hasn't thought it through.
DeleteThis claiming of victim status has gotten way out of hand, although it's not new. There's a very old joke about a stuttering man who applies for a job as radio announcer. After he's turned down, he says, "What chance has a Southerner?"
ReplyDeleteYes, that letter writer should have claimed Hillary was the victim of the fake news and the Deep State. Then she would have been on solid ground. Sexism? Pshaw.
DeleteThis claiming of victim status has gotten way out of hand...
DeleteSays the guy who comes here to lurk on a progressive blog to whine and whine and whine about how unfair the whole world is to him and his fellow fascists.
David, your stuttering man example is explained by Seligman's attribution theory. It is common for people to protect ego and preserve hope of future success by attributing failure to some global phenomenon (such as bias) in others rather than blaming oneself, especially for something not very fixable, such as a stutter. Saying that the station is biased against Southerners leaves the hope that other stations may be more fair, thus encouraging the individual to try again. Accepting that the stutter was the reason means there is no reason to keep trying for the announcer job. So, the truth of the explanation is irrelevant. Persistence is more likely to pay off than giving up, so the attribution that encourages persistence is better than the more truthful one. People have lots of delusions that encourage them to keep trying when they otherwise might give up and lose any chance at success.
DeleteIf female candidates believe that their failure is due to media bias and sexism, they are more likely to keep running for office and trying to fix sexism, than giving up because women are never going to win. The truth of whether they are as capable as men is irrelevant in a democracy where our values dictate that everyone who is a citizen should have the chance to run for office and be elected on fair and equal terms. If you don't believe that, the people here who call you a fascist may be right about you.
@5:56 thanks for the mention of Seligman. I had not heard of his work before.
DeleteDo I think everyone should have an equal opportunity of elective office? Of course. I spent my whole career dealing with a similar challenge. I worked in a business that traditionally discriminated against Jews. I was only the 2nd Jewish officer in a giant, 200-year old insurance company. When I began travelling to Lloyds in London, the prejudice was even stronger there. Had I been a few years older, the jobs I had would not have been open to me.
BTW I don't like generlized terms of whether women are as capable as men. We are all individuals. Women, men, blacks, whites, Asians, gays, etc. each include people of all degrees of capability.
Although it sounds paradoxical, I am grateful that religious discrimination was NOT prohibited during my father's lifetime. Jew, Asians and others overcame discrimination by extra-hard work and achievement. That may have been unfair, but in the long run it produced a better outcome than laws and regulations IMHO.
7:11,
DeleteInstead of the constant whining, Conservatives will just have to overcome discrimination through extra-hard work and achievement. Learning basic mathematics would be a good place for them to start.
I agree with you @7:11. Conservative whining over biased media coverage doesn't do any good. Nobody is going to offer conservative candidates some kind of affirmative action vote bonus to make up for the discrimination. We just have to work extra hard.
Delete10:33,
DeleteNo one can say Conservatives don't work extra hard on the grift.
If Somerby would venture out of his hermetically sealed environment, he would see constant, withering criticism of the mainstream media from members of that so-called “failed tribe.” But then, that might shatter his illusions and call his beloved “failed tribe” narrative into question.
ReplyDeleteAll the crimes that Cohen discussed Wednesday and Somerby singles out the hush money!
ReplyDeleteDaniels supposedly sent an agent to request hush money, but Cohen testified that payments by Trump of hush money to women predated the time he began working for Trump and were numerous during his time, as was the catch-and-kill procedure by the National Enquirer. But Daniels is at fault, even though her story bears no resemblance to the "facts" Somerby thinks he knows.
Somerby has a serious problem with women that goes well beyond "ambivalence." That's between him, his mother, and his shrink. But it is obvious in everything he says and doesn't say about women here in this blog. As is his obliviousness to his personal biases.
Somerby's tragedy is that he is a political comedian and blog writer who is missing the biggest political story of his lifetime, because he is fixated on personal stuff that he can't seem to get out of his system. In the immortal words of Donald Trump, "sad."
As is his obliviousness to his personal biases.
DeleteSeriously, why doesn't your head just explode from cognitive dissonance?
What exactly is the story - the biggest political story you mention?
Deletedeadrat, why do you think Somerby never reads his comments?
DeleteI don’t know for a fact that Somerby never reads his comments. After all, he could actually be posting as Mao or David.
DeleteI infer that he doesn’t read the comments because
1. Somerby posts a fair amount of nonsense, especially when he writes about science or when he’s stuck on a favorite trope. Consider his Aristotle-said-man-is-the-rational-animal thing. Commenters point out his, er, howlers, yet he persists. Not that I would expect him to accept correction without checking for himself. He can be meticulous in tracking down source material.
2. Look at this place and what do you see?A vituperative village troll who’s admitted that all he cares about is provoking a response, a village idiot in both the moral and intellectual sense, a coterie of Anonymi who constantly miss his point, hucksters selling love spells, Mumbai Movers, Inc., and posts in Arabic script. If you saw a garden in as bad a shape as this commentariat, wouldn’t you conclude that the owner wasn’t interested in gardening?
3. Lastly — and this is just a personal view — if it were my blog, I’d have started out reading the comments and then quit when I found it served consistently to re-enforce my view that people can’t read for comprehension when the script is already in their head. That is, the commentary is just an exhibit in evidence, not something to re-read ad infinitum et ad nauseam.
The Somerby Side Step in action:
ReplyDeleteLetter writer accuses the Times of sexism.
Somerby:
‘look at the way they treated Al Gore!
Letter writer fails to mention this and is thus a self-assured narrative-spouting member of a failed tribe!’
Meanwhile, the original charge of sexism at the Times goes unanswered.
Did Stormy Daniels commit extortion “[u]nder existing law”? TDH says he has “no idea.” Partly that’s because TDH apparently hasn’t acquainted himself with “existing law” and partly because everybody involved in the sordid business has lied about it. Under existing law, the extorting party must make a demand for a consideration not to disclose harmful information about the extorted party. It seems that Stormy had been talking up her encounter with Trump starting some five years before the election in question. This resulted in the $130K NDA negotiated by Michael Cohen. Did Clifford demand $130K in return for signing the NDA or Did Cohen offer $130K in return for her signing? Who knows, but you gotta figure that if it were the former, the Trumpists would have screamed extortion. In any case, it should be clear to both TDH and Alan Dershowitz why nobody is investigating extortion on Clifford’s part: nobody involved has alleged extortion.
ReplyDeleteWell, Dershowitz specifically says “it's shocking that the special counsel looking into this, who has a broad mandate, he described it very broadly, isn't looking into the extortion committed by, at least, the porn star,”.
DeleteSo, he’s saying the special counsel should be “looking into” and hence, one would assume, charging Daniels with “the extortion” she apparently committed.
There are two things wrong with that:
1) Dershowitz has no idea if Mueller perhaps did look into it and rejected it for lack of evidence (he did however, refer campaign finance violations and other Cohen-related matters to SDNY)
2. He assumes there is extortion, when the evidence is not there, which is the point you were making.
What part of catch and kill does Somerby not understand? Cohen testified to ongoing catch-and-kill operations during 10 years and before he became Trump's associate. Stormy wasn't threatening to talk about her affair with Trump. She was already doing it in public. That became inconvenient for Trump right before the election, aggravated by the 20+ women who were claiming sexual assault by Trump. Who do you really think approached who?
DeleteIs Somerby a moron?
@6:03
DeleteI have come to believe that Somerby is operating in bad faith.
He can’t be that stupid.
6:02 Stormy was talking about her affair with Trump in public before she signed the NDA? Is that true? I'm just trying to get my facts strait.
DeleteClifford was denying the affair as late as Jan 2018,
Deletehttps://jezebel.com/stormy-daniels-now-denies-she-had-an-affair-with-donald-1822574855
@6:23
DeleteAh. Wouldn’t it be nice if Somerby could help you out with the, you know, facts, rather than throwing around baseless accusations of extortion.
Stormy talked about the affair in 2011, to “InTouch”, but the interview wasn’t published. “The Dirty” publicized the allegations in 2011. She talked about it on Good Morning America in the Fall of 2016, prior to October 28. The affair was reported in “The Smoking Gun” on 10/18/2016. NDA was signed 10/28/2016. It became public 1/12/2018.
@6:30
She was under the NDA at that time.
6:36 Hi! Hey, what is your source for saying "She talked about it on Good Morning America in the Fall of 2016,"? Because actually, you were wrong about that.
DeleteIt is false that she was already talking about it before the NDA.
So actually, it is me helping you with the facts. Your facts are wrong. ;)
6:56
DeleteCifford was scheduled to appear on ABC's Good Morning America to talk about Trump in the fall of 2016 but abruptly canceled her appearance.
There is no evidence that she ever talked about the affair in public before the NDA on the contrary, she was denying it publicly.
I believe around the time of October 2016 Daniel's was peddling the story to the highest bidder as Trump's stock had risen so high as did the value of her story. I guess the hundred thirty thousand from Cohen was the highest price that the money-grubbing whore could get.
DeleteI believe Daniels first attorney has gone on record saying that it was Cohen who approached them about a payoff, meaning him and Daniels.
DeleteYou'll have to believe InTouch, which published in 2018 what they said was a 2011 Clifford interview in which she talked about her encounter with Trump. Cohen was supposed to have scared them off in 2011.
DeleteDeadteat:
Delete"It seems that Stormy had been talking up her encounter with Trump starting some five years before the election in question."
Not publicly.
"the Trumpists would have screamed extortion. ... nobody involved has alleged extortion."
Now, put your thinking cap on son. They would be screaming extortion to what end? That's like screaming "they stole my cocaine!".
I don't know what significance you think "publicly" has. The claim is that Clifford didn't talk about the event before the NDA. She did, apparently to a gossip rag. That not "public" enough for ya?
DeleteI also don't think your "stole my cocaine" analogy is apt. Possession of cocaine is illegal. Extortion (at least in my state) is obtaining property via threat, which can be a threat to damage reputation. To claim extortion, the Trumpists wouldn't have to cop to the truth of Clifford's claims, just that she threatened to go public with stories that would damage Trump's reputation.
6:03 had claimed Daniels was telling her story in public which is false. (The Intouch article was not released to the public) I see though, your point is Cohen et al knew she was giving a story to Intouch and may have intervened with some kind of payoff in 2011 because why would she give an interview like that only to have it squashed? Or maybe they threatened the rag somehow. And then they re-approached her for the NDA in 2016 when things where getting difficult for Trump in terms of sex accusations.
DeleteIn terms of the extortion claim, Daniel's lawyer was known as "the attorney to hire if you are seeking to monetize a celebrity sex tape or compromising information about public figures like Trump, Charlie Sheen, Tiger Woods, and Kanye West ... Davidson specializes in extracting payments in exchange for the quashing of incriminating videos and/or details about sexual indiscretions, STDs, and all manner of regrettable behavior."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/keith-davidson-profile-907453
So Daniels and Cohen both probably approached each other each with their eye$$$ on the prize as Stormy had him over a barrel.
I think you’re correct about Daniels and Cohen, and an implied threat is still a threat. You can’t say in your best Piranha brothers’ voice, “Nice marriage you’ve got there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it,” and then claim you merely made an observation. But if Avenatti was so good at extraction, I’d think it was partly because he knew how to negotiate without making a criminal threat.
DeleteCase in point, was the guy who had compromising material on David Letterman, and said he was going to reveal Letterman’s secrets in a screenplay and a book unless Letterman gave him $2M. Letterman claimed he met with blackmailer and asked him whether he was aware and comfortable with committing blackmail. The guy said yes, not realizing he was about to be caught in a sting. He went to prison.
People were amazed at the guy’s stupidity. All he had to do was ask Letterman to be his partner in the book/movie deal. Call it say, Late Night Hijinks, offer to give Letterman complete artistic control, and wait to be offered a deal.
Females are incapable of entering into contracts responsibly. They break them and have the entire feminist apparatus supporting them for doing it.
ReplyDeleteGot stood up, eh? Breaking a date is not a contractual matter. Get over it.
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Joy and happiness is all i can see around ever since i came in contact with this great man. i complained bitterly to him about me having herpes only for him to tell me it’s a minor stuff. He told me he has cured thousands of people but i did not believe until he sent me the herbal medicine and i took it as instructed by this great man, only to go to the hospital after two weeks for another test and i was confirmed negative. For the first time in four years i was getting that result. i want to use this medium to thank this great man. His name is Dr Oyagu, i came in contact with his email through a friend in UK and ever since then my live has been full with laughter and great peace of mind. i urge you all with herpes or HSV to contact him if you willing to give him a chance. you can contact him through this email oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or you can also WhatsApp him +2348101755322
He also cured my friend with HIV and ever since then i strongly believe he can do all things. Don't be deceived thinking he does not work, i believe if you can get in contact with this man all your troubles will be over. i have done my part in spreading the good news. Contact him through his email and you will be the next to testify of his great work.
Joy and happiness is all i can see around ever since i came in contact with this great man. i complained bitterly to him about me having herpes only for him to tell me it’s a minor stuff. He told me he has cured thousands of people but i did not believe until he sent me the herbal medicine and i took it as instructed by this great man, only to go to the hospital after two weeks for another test and i was confirmed negative. For the first time in four years i was getting that result. i want to use this medium to thank this great man. His name is Dr Oyagu, i came in contact with his email through a friend in UK and ever since then my live has been full with laughter and great peace of mind. i urge you all with herpes or HSV to contact him if you willing to give him a chance. you can contact him through this email oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or you can also WhatsApp him +2348101755322
ReplyDeleteHe also cured my friend with HIV and ever since then i strongly believe he can do all things. Don't be deceived thinking he does not work, i believe if you can get in contact with this man all your troubles will be over. i have done my part in spreading the good news. Contact him through his email and you will be the next to testify of his great work.
Joy and happiness is all i can see around ever since i came in contact with this great man. i complained bitterly to him about me having herpes only for him to tell me it’s a minor stuff. He told me he has cured thousands of people but i did not believe until he sent me the herbal medicine and i took it as instructed by this great man, only to go to the hospital after two weeks for another test and i was confirmed negative. For the first time in four years i was getting that result. i want to use this medium to thank this great man. His name is Dr Oyagu, i came in contact with his email through a friend in UK and ever since then my live has been full with laughter and great peace of mind. i urge you all with herpes or HSV to contact him if you willing to give him a chance. you can contact him through this email oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or you can also WhatsApp him +2348101755322
He also cured my friend with HIV and ever since then i strongly believe he can do all things. Don't be deceived thinking he does not work, i believe if you can get in contact with this man all your troubles will be over. i have done my part in spreading the good news. Contact him through his email and you will be the next to testify of his great work.
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