Kristof [HEART] Candidate Warren: In our view, the state of the possible Democratic nominees is poor.
The current front-runner is way too old, and it seems to be showing. One other (well-received) candidate is perhaps way too young.
(His relative youth isn't fully showing, in part because he's currently being given a pass by the mob. For a look at the South Bend police issues you aren't hearing about on cable, click to this CNN report.)
Candidate Harris has excellent presentation skills but rarely makes a presentation which is accurate or makes sense. We're sick to the soul of upper-end strivers who play it this way. (More on this in the days to come.)
Candidate Biden is way too old; Sanders is older than him! In his favor, he's still going strong. But by any rational standard, his age constitutes a large risk.
Candidate Skateboard was always a mystery. That leaves Candidate Booker, who we'll discuss some other time, and also Candidate Warren, whose stock was soaring within the mainstream press before the mob decided to settle on Candidate Harris as the most high-minded assassin since Brutus.
In our view, Candidate Warren is appropriately strong on the idea that our economic systems are "rigged." Until the mob decided that The Killing of Biden was all, they'd almost settled on "Warren Has A Plan for Everything" as their official group motto.
That brings us to the New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, who actually pursues serious issues all around the world.
Shortly before the assassin struck, Kristof wrote a column praising Candidate Warren, who was then the apparent group choice. His column ran beneath these headlines:
Why I Was Wrong About Elizabeth WarrenKristof was rethinking Warren. His column started like this:
And her growing popularity suggests others are coming around, too.
KRISTOF (6/27/19): As the Democratic presidential campaign began, I was deeply skeptical of Elizabeth Warren.Kristof started with the Native American madness, then listed two other prior objections to Warren. He then said that he'd changed his mind on all counts. We'll focus on what he said about his first point of concern
My first objection was that she appeared to have parlayed possible Native American heritage to gain academic jobs (Harvard Law School listed her as Native American beginning in 1995). That offended me, and I knew it would repel huge numbers of voters.
KRISTOF: Let’s examine my misperceptions. First, The Boston Globe conducted a rigorous examination of Warren’s legal career, and it is now clear that she never benefited professionally from Native American associations.That was Kristof's full dismissal of his first point of concern—his concern about Warren's long-standing claim to Native American heritage. In our view, his analysis makes little sense.
“The Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools,” the newspaper concluded.
Let's assume The Globe was right in what it believes it found. Let's assume that Warren didn't "benefit professionally" from her claims to Indian heritage. Let's assume that played no role in her hiring by Harvard or by anyone else.
Let's assume that Warren didn't benefit. That doesn't erase the impression that she tried to benefit, and something tells us a certain strongman will return to the "Pocahontas" attack one minute after Warren accepts the Democratic nomination.
If the strongman does any such thing, our team will all yell "racism." Sadly, it's the only claim our failing tribe knows how to make at this time.
We can't tell you how effective a return to that attack would be. But we were struck by the faulty logic of Kristof's absolution.
Did Candidate Warren ever think she was actually an American Indian? Since she isn't the dumbest person on Earth, it's hard to believe that she did. But she was filling out official forms that way, and it seems that Harvard was predictably hapless enough to identify her that way for years.
We don't know how well Trump's attacks would work against a Nominee Warren. Having said that, we leave you with two points:
Kristof's logic was strikingly weak that day. But a narrative was forming within the guild, and he may have wanted to clamber aboard.
That's a comment on the pundit. Here's a comment on the pol:
As Warren's basic critique implies, the rewards have been "too damn high" for a very long time at the top end of our culture. People will cut a lot of corners to haul in those rewards.
Among our two most progressive candidates, one honeymooned in the Soviet Union; the other claimed to be a Native American. There was nothing to gain from the honeymoon trip; there was much to gain from the phony claim about "race."
Meanwhile, our current front-runner has apparently wanted the top prize so badly that he's never been able to quit. In turn, Harris and Booker have now come along, claiming to be upset and hurt every time he opens his mouth.
The rewards are too damn high, and have been so for some time. Meanwhile, at least at the top of the pile, this crop of Democratic hopefuls can sometimes look scarily flawed.
The hopeful who just couldn't quit: In our view, Candidate Biden has pursued the prize beyond a point which seems to make sense. This is a very old story, of course. For a somewhat similar tale, just reread King Lear.
Might this suggest that Biden was the source, in 2016, of Maureen Dowd's ugly, treacly claims about his dying son's last few words, in which the dying son allegedly trashed the Clintons?
We might have thought it couldn't be true. Now, perhaps it was.
Unless Dowd just made that up, someone was grasping and clawing back then. In our view, Candidate Harris almost seems to be doing so now.
But Warren does have Native American ancestry.ReplyDelete
And Obama really was born in Hawaii. This is another form of birtherism, aimed at another Democrat in order to make her seem like a liar.Delete
When I was in elementary school, my teachers misunderstood and thought that a border was my brother. It turned up that way in my permanent record, an official mistake. Years later, someone might legitimately want to know why I "invented" a false brother and now denied him. These sorts of errors are easy to make and easy to misinterpret.
Warren doesn't think she is a Cherokee and neither do the Cherokees. Problem solved. The rest is a smear campaign that Somerby apparently wishes to join.
Pocahontas will never live down her fraudulent claim.Delete
Sure "problem solved" it was all a big misunderstanding...chuckle, chuckle, snort!Delete
Anyone who thinks Conservatives call Warren "Pocahontas" because she claimed Native American ancestry, and not because she wants to protect consumers from the economic predators who run financial service companies, should be dismissed for announcing their stupidity.Delete
Ah, so the fake Indian, who's built her whole career pretending to be a "woman of color". Alright.ReplyDelete
It figures that his one would know that "systems are rigged", first-hand.
Sure, we too noticed that the liberal establishment just a-d-o-r-e-s fraudsters, with love and kisses.
Ha ha . Mao calls Warren "Pocahontas" because she wants to protect consumers from his buddies, the establishment elite.Delete
Give Mao credit for being marginally funnier than he is honest.
In today’s Daily Musings on the Candidates, Somerby teams up with Trump and the mainstream media to help reduce Warren to the Indian business in her past.ReplyDelete
Even as he couches his concern about Warren as a worry about what Trump might do and how “our tribe” might react, he still manages to call Warren’s claim “phony.”
So, again, thanks to Somerby for getting the media back to focusing on Warren’s one purported mistake instead of her professional and life experience and her ability to articulate policy.
And in his penchant for coining nicknames for the candidates, (Candidate Hurtful (Harris) in the previous post and now Candidate Skateboard (possibly O’Rourke, although we’re not sure), Somerby acts rather Trump-like and certainly several decades younger and more immature than his 70+ years would seem to imply. He might as well go ahead and call Warren “Candidate Pocahontas” to complete the hat trick.
You spotlight the problem with Warren, who, like you and dishonest scribes, refuse to admit what's painfully obvious: She tried to cheat. Trying to cheat is cheating - even if she didn't succeed. But the fact is she did cheat, she got caught, and now she lying about it.Delete
What's painfully honest is that Conservatives hate her for protecting consumers from Establishment Elite fraudsters.Delete
Anyone too stupid to see that obviousness should be ignored.
In our view, the state of the possible Democratic nominees is poor.ReplyDelete
Yes, well, unfortunately the most qualified candidate is forced to sit on the sidelines because the political press in this country is demented.
Clearly MM refers to Kevin SpaceyDelete
Al Gore -- but that was our nation's tragedy.Delete
Clinton so threatened men in this country that she never had a chance to show what she could do in office. Instead we have to suffer through this moronic Trump administration. I hope you are all happy with what you did to our nation.
I’ve heard that Candidate Bonespurs has been credibly accuses of sexual misconduct, up to and including rape. Funny how that doesn’t rate a mention at TDH, just like it barely registered with the media. But, by all means, worry your little head and grouse about Warren’s troubling and grave “Indian” scandal, Bob.ReplyDelete
It shows you how depraved this country is. And you with it.
All of this was made clear by the former presidential candidate the Trump beat. Most people will vote issues, not personalities. A bad person might hurt a few people, bad policies will hurt the entire nation.Delete
We might differ as to what bad policies are but most people feel they are safe from bad people. they have to be informed as what bad policies will do to them and their children.
Hmm. Let me go out on a limb, and suggest that most people strongly suspect that "bad people" (the liberal honchos, in this case) don't really care about 'good policies'. They will say and do anything to get what they want.Delete
Which is, in this particular case, to bullshit a lot, and serve the global finance.
Well, perhaps not all 100% of the camarilla being discussed here - I'll reserve my judgement on Mrs. Tulsi Gabbard - but all the rest for sure.
Yes, it’s terribly important to know whether Warren’s claim about her Indian heritage is phony, but not whether the most recent two-week-old allegation that Trump is a rapist is true. It’s all about the “policy” doncha know.Delete
It seems unfair, @6:00. However, everyone already knows that Trump is scummy. But, if his opponent is going to run on the issue of integrity, it's important that the opponent be clean. I don't think Warren can get elected on a slogan of: "Vote for me. I'm a liar but not as big a liar as Trump."Delete
Yeah, about that policy thing...DJT went on national TV in March to declare a national emergency and requested help for the HUMANITARIAN CRISIS. Dems not only ignored it, Count Chuckula & Nancy squeezed onto one podium claiming DJT "manufactured a crisis." Three month later and Dems crying a humanitarian crisis (but pretending they didn't ignore the warnings and their responsibility).Delete
@11:16 Earthworms have more integrity than Donald J. Trump.Delete
Democrat or not, no one should ignore the damage Conservatives do to this nation.Delete
Warren needs to step-up her bigotry game if she wants to win over David in Cal..Delete
Fighting Amish, Trump did create that humanitarian crisis and has done nothing to fix it.Delete
How insubstantial are claims of "grasping and clawing"?ReplyDelete
Somerby damns Harris as being an "upper end striver" despite her childhood with immigrant parents coming from the wrong side of the tracks (or she wouldn't have been bused). Her success should be a strength, not a complaint lodged against her.
Who else turns candidates strengths against them, portraying hero John Kerry as a coward, portraying earnest Hillary Clinton as a crook, portraying hard-working wonky Al Gore as a foolish liar? This is what Republicans do. And now Somerby does it to the latest batch of Democrats, with special attention to the women. It may not make him a conservative when he uses their tactics, but it sure as hell doesn't make him a liberal.
Your posts are riddled with logical fallacies.Delete
Willie Brown knows she is a "lower end striver."Delete
6:15 PM, you write:Delete
...despite her childhood with immigrant parents coming from the wrong side of the tracks (or she wouldn't have been bused).
I think you're a long, long way from understanding what coming from the wrong side of the tracks means.
Think what you want, you cannot know anything about anyone posting on the internet beyond what they tell you. Ad hominem attacks are meaningless and not any sort of argument.Delete
If you argue that anyone who succeeded despite poor surroundings must have been special or different, advantaged in some way, to begin with, then it is impossible to demonstrate that busing to achieve desegregation improves educational outcomes. It is a circular argument.
Conservatives got their marching orders from the Establishment Elites to attack Warren on the Native American non-scandal.Delete
Somerby is just repeating Right-wing nonsense memes. Again.
IMHO there is no real way to prove that Warren's alleged Native American ethnicity didn't help her. One could ask the various Professors and administrators involved in her hiring and promotion, but they will naturally deny that racial preferences played a role in their decision.ReplyDelete
What are you talking about? Without her "woman of color" fraud, she would've been a nobody.Delete
And it's been proven consistently. See this one, for example:
One could ask the various Professors and administrators involved in her hiring and promotion, but they will naturally deny that racial preferences played a role in their decisionDelete
Projecting again, Chuckles? Just because you are a lying sack of shit, you shouldn't assume everyone else is. Every accusation by a conservative is a confession.
Vote for Donald J Chickenshit - you already know he's scummy.
Mao making believe he has a problem with Warren's claim of being of Native American descent, and not that she wants to hold his establishment elite buddies accountable, is the worst piece of transparent bullshit you'll find on the internet today.Delete
The Russo-Republican Axis maintain tight control of this once great democratic republic by convincing their voters that democrats are American hating open boarder socialists, while the Russians open up the second front by convincing progressives that democrats are in bed with the global financial elites just enough to suppress the progressive vote as necessary. Mao of course is a soldier on the Russo front.Delete
You need to calm down, Hillary.Delete
The psycho that you are, surely you must have a speck of tenderness for your grandchildren? Try to concentrate on that.
I'm breathing deep and laughing at your idiocy, dembot zombie at 12:04.Delete
Mao and his fellow Conservatives would really love to hold the establishment elites accountable, but Warren gaining no advantage from her claim of being of Native american descent is keeping them from doing so. LOLReplyDelete
Nothing about the "economic anxiety" of the Border Control Facebook group joking about the death of migrants?ReplyDelete
Let's hope TDH's gas-lighters hurry up with the inspiration of them.
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