THE RATIONAL ANIMAL'S SYSTEMS: Judge Jackson says the truth still matters!

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2020

We don't know if Maddow agrees:
Famously, Mr. T pitied the fool.

Way back in 1968,
Bob Dylan said he pities Trump.

("That man who with his fingers cheats, who lies with every breath...Who falls in love with wealth itself and turns his back on me.")

For ourselves, we pity the poor American citizen to whom the most obvious question occurs.

Within our tribalized journalistic system, such questions will routinelgo unaddressed. Information is no longer the coin of the realm. Tribalized narrative is.

Consider the question which occurred to us after the perpetually ludicrous Roger Stone was sentenced to forty months in prison. Our question shaped up like this:

On Monday, February 10, the Justice Department originally recommended a sentence of 7-9 years for Stone (more precisely, 87-108 months) The next day, that recommendation was amended.

Attorney General William Barr had been involved in this switch. This new, amended recommendation included these statements:
AMENDED SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION (2/11/20): The defendant committed serious offenses and deserves a sentence of incarceration that is “sufficient, but not greater than necessary” to satisfy the factors set forth in Section 3553(a).

Based on the facts known to the government, Mb and unwarranted under the circumstances.
Even in the amended recommendation, the DOJ said that Stone "committed serious offenses and deserves a sentence of incarceration." However, the amended recommendation said that a sentence of "far less than 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment would be reasonable under the circumstances."

At one point, the amended recommendation suggested that a term of 37 to 46 months might be "more in line with the typical sentences imposed in obstruction cases." That said, the amended recommendation "ultimately deferred to the Court" without specifically recommending a specific term of imprisonment.

As of February 11, so the matter stood. In the days which followed, Barr was raked over the coals for his role in this amendation. On cable, we liberals were told that Judge Amy Berman Jackson wouldn't be swayed by such conduct.

But then, how strange! When Judge Jackson sentenced Stone, she sentenced him to 40 months. The recommendation which came from Barr was pretty much where Jackson came down!

Our question: Why did Jackson's sentence seem to align with the amended recommendation? Did this mean that the heroic Barr had been right all along? Was Jackson somehow required to defer to the general drift of the amended recommendation?

Why did Stone's sentence fall short of the initial recommendation? Inquiring minds wanted to know, but liberal news orgs didn't rush to explain.

If you watched Nicolle Wallace yesterday at 4 PM Eastern, you saw a lengthy discussion of this matter. But no one ever noted the fact that Jackson's sentence largely aligned with Barr's amended recommendation.

If you watched Rachel Maddow last night, things seemed to get much worse.

Did you watch Maddow last night? To our ear, she seemed to say that the mustachio-twirling Barr had recommended that Stone get no prison time at all.

That's what Maddow seemed to say, and Maddow tends to be like that. In the course of an endless treatment of this matter,
here's the way her second segment started:
MADDOW (2/20/20): How would the court deal today with the crisis around this case, right? The president publicly demanding that the sentencing recommendation from prosecutors should be thrown out, that Roger Stone was being treated unfairly and that he shouldn't get any prison time.

The attorney general then apparently acceding to that request and getting himself into that case personally,
overruling the prosecutors who had brought the case to instead ask for lenience for the president's friend, for Roger Stone.
That's the way the segment started. It almost sounded like Trump had said that Stone should get no prison time, and that Barr had then said the same thing.

Plainly, that isn't what happened. But that's almost the way it almost sounded as Maddow's segment began.

Later in this same segment, Maddow seemed to make this claim more clearly. As part of a lengthy oration, she explained what happened after Barr had engaged in the conduct described below:
MADDOW: ...William Barr hears that public criticism from the president and intervenes and rescinds the sentencing recommendation from the prosecutors running this case and instead says, "No, no, no! I, William Barr, instead insist that instead we have a revised sentencing recommendation in which Roger Stone gets off."
You can watch the full oration yourself. As she continued, Maddow suggested, one more time, that Barr had said that Roger Stone shouldn't have to "go to jail."

In that presentation, Maddow seemed to say that Barr had recommended that Stone should "get off"—shouldn't go to prison at all. To our ear, Maddow had seemed to say that at the start of the segment. Now, her account of the matter seemed clear.

For ourselves, we were still wondering why Judge Jackson's sentence had come down as it did. Even in the course of endless monologues on a favorite subject, people like Maddow don't waste their time explaining such matters to you.

As our journalistic systems continue to crash and burn, people like Maddow paint tribally pleasing pictures and tell tribally pleasing stories. In 2017, Janet Malcolm seemed to praise this pseudo-journalistic process when she profiled Maddow in the New Yorker:
MALCOLM (10/9/17): “The Rachel Maddow Show” is a piece of sleight of hand presented as a cable news show. It is TV entertainment at its finest. It permits liberals to enjoy themselves during what may be the most thoroughly unenjoyable time of their political lives.
Maddow's show lets us liberals enjoy ourselves! Weirdly, Malcolm seemed to approve of this service. To us, Malcolm's description captures the way our information systems are increasingly falling apart.

Over on Fox, Tucker was telling millions of viewers last night that Judge Jackson has been behaving like an authoritarian. We haven't been able to review his whole segment yet, but our own tribe is involved in so much nonsense at this point that his segments are often highly persuasive without even being inaccurate.

Rachel and Tucker are extremely well paid to ladle comfort food to the tribes. Information and explanation play second fiddle to the process of novelization which now lies at the heart of this corporate project.

Can a continental nation function this way? We'd say the answer is no.

Last evening, an irate Maddow seemed to say that Barr had recommended that Stone get no prison time at all. Obviously, that isn't true. Just consider what readers were told in this morning's Washington Post, though only if they read all the way to paragraph 32:
WEINER ET AL (2/21/20): This week, those close to Barr said the attorney general has told Trump advisers that he has considered resigning over the president’s tweets. But Trump continued to tweet about the Stone case. This week, he suggested his friend deserved a new trial—just as the Justice Department, with Barr’s blessing, made clear it had opposed Stone’s request on that front. Like prosecutors, Barr has called Stone’s prosecution “righteous” and added, “I was happy that he was convicted.”
Say what? Barr has called Stone’s prosecution “righteous?” Barr has said, “I was happy that he was convicted?”

Well actually, yes he has. He said those things to ABC's Pierre Thomas in an interview last week. Maddow's viewers have never been told that Barr said those things.

Barr said Roger Stone should go free? Maddow talked and talked and talked and talked about this topic last night. It seemed to us that's what she said, but with multimillionaire novelists like Maddow, the viewer can never be sure.

This too from Nicolle: Wallace and her "favorite reporters and friends" didn't attempt to explain the way Jackson's sentence turned out. Along the way, she once again repeated a claim which she knows is false.

We refer to her repeated claim that the Mueller report charged Trump with ten instances of obstruction of justice.

In the past, Wallace has said, on at least two occasions, that she knows this statement is false. But she says it, she has explained, because, "as a political communicator," she makes inaccurate statements which put her opponents on the defensive.

Increasingly, this is the way the tribes are allowed to enjoy themselves. Along the way, our systems fail. Increasingly, things fall apart.

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  2. Didn't watch Maddow, but am 100% positive Barr's job is to cover-up Trump's crimes.

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  3. “Why did Stone's sentence fall short of the initial recommendation? Inquiring minds wanted to know, but liberal news orgs didn't rush to explain.”

    In that “lengthy oration” that Somerby skipped over, Maddow reads from the transcript. In it, we learn that the original 7-9 year sentence request followed current DOJ guidelines, expressed by William Barr himself, which calls on prosecutors to request the maximum possible sentence. The issue in this case is not the actual sentence imposed by the judge; the sentence is always at the judge’s discretion. The issue is the way that Barr personally intervened in the sentencing of a Trump friend to demand a lower sentence, in contravention of his own department’s policy.

    The judge was clearly exercised about the goings-on at DOJ, she stated the intervention was “unprecedented”, and the original prosecutors in the case quit. *That* is what Maddow and others are talking about. No one is moaning that Stone got too short a sentence.

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    2. “Maddow reads from the transcript. In it, we learn that the original 7-9 year sentence request followed current DOJ guidelines, expressed by William Barr himself, which calls on prosecutors to request the maximum possible sentence. The issue in this case is not the actual sentence imposed by the judge; the sentence is always at the judge’s discretion. The issue is the way that Barr personally intervened in the sentencing of a Trump friend to demand a lower sentence, in contravention of his own department’s policy.”

      The Mediaite piece (linked by TDH) links to the ABC News interview with Barr. His describes his thinking and his proposal after being approached and informed of where the prosecutors were headed. Barr also details the timeline of his decision.

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-attorney-general-bill-barrs-exclusive-interview-abc/story?id=68975178&cid=social_twitter_abcn

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    3. William Barr is a liar.

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    4. Maddow misrepresented his views.

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    5. 1:53,
      So did William Barr.

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    6. No, Maddow clearly implied that Barr was trying to get him off.

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  4. Dear Bob, as a liberal zombie cult member in good standing, you've been ordered to care whether poor Mr Stone was recommended, by DOJ, to serve 40 months or 100 months.

    In that respect, We're satisfied that you've followed the instructions.

    However, dear Bob, you were also ordered to express your genuine outrage at DOJ changing the recommendation.

    In this area, unfortunately you demonstrate a regrettable weakness. Please concentrate, work on it, and We hope to see a significant improvement in your ensuing relevant commentary.

    Sincerely, your zombie cult team leader.

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      I hear he left Mao for David in Cal.

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    2. You have to admit, watching Mao's Social Security benefits get cut to fund Trump's HUGE tax break for the Establishment, while silly, clueless Mao cheers from the sidelines, is hilarious.
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  6. If Somerby paid any attention to actual trials and court cases, he would know that prosecutors almost always ask for the maximum and judges usually don't sentenced those convicted to the maximum. Judges take all kinds of mitigation into consideration when handing down a sentence. The 40 months is probably what the judge was going to give Stone before all of the crap was started by Trump about how Stone was being picked on and treated unfairly.
    The problem is not that the prosecutors asked for the maximum and the judge reduced it. The problem is that by Trump and Barr interfering it makes it look like the prosecutors were being unfair or that Stone got special treatment because of their interference. Either way, it reduces confidence in our judicial system and the rule of law, which is what Putin and Trump both want.

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    1. Gee, it's almost as if you'd be better at RM's job than she is.

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    2. A liberal blog (unlike this pseudo-liberal one), explained that the judge may have used Barr's recommendation in order to deprive Trump of an excuse to pardon Stone. At the time of sentencing, Trump was tweeting about the unfairness of his sentence length.

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    3. Somerby and deadrat both ignore Rachel Maddow's blog, which often contains interesting details of the type Somerby keeps requesting. It is written by Steve Benen who took over Kevin Drum's blog when he went to write for Mother Jones, then went to work for Rachel Maddow on Air America. He has a lot of liberal cred, much like Somerby used to have (but not any more).

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    4. Nobody thinks Rachel Maddow actually writes her own show, do they? She probably has a team of writers, just like Bill Maher and John Stewart and John Oliver and Samantha Bee (who never seem to attract Somerby's ire).

      I find myself wondering why Somerby targets her so exclusively. Is it because she is super educated? Is it because he show touted her as being super smart? Is it because she is lesbian? Is it because she has the job he wanted but couldn't manage to convince anyone to give him? Or is it because she snubbed him in the green room of some other venue and he never forgets stuff like that (just as he never forgot that Roseanne Barr was nice to him -- that must not happen very often)? It never seems like her offense rises to the level of Somerby's criticism.

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    5. Is it because she reminds him of a high-school crush who broke his heart? Is it because he suffers from ovinophobia and her her initials, RAM, remind him of sheep? Is it because she’s from the planet Krypton and he’s from the planet Kolob? Or is it the other way around?

      Speculation can be endless.

      For me, RM is smarmy, lazy, self-absorbed, almost always tribal, and for the most part, cluelessly uninformed. Given the need we have for the opposite, her offense as a waste of electromagnetic spectrum doesn’t begin to rise to the level of TDH’s criticism.

      Now I suppose you’ll speculate on my mental state instead of watching her bungling performance.

      By the way, TDH doesn’t target RM “exclusively.” Have you read what he writes about Chris Matthews?

      By the way, when Samantha Bee called Ivanka Trump a cunt, she (SB) attracted TDH’s ire.

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    6. Corporations don't allow smart liberals to have their own TV show about politics.
      Instead, they look for people like Chris Matthews, who aren't afraid of toeing the company line by saying a bump in tax rates on the rich is equal to the Holocaust.

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  7. Why has Somerby suddenly stopped screening out all this spam?

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  8. "We refer to her repeated claim that the Mueller report charged Trump with ten instances of obstruction of justice."

    This is a quibble over language. The Mueller report did clearly report on 10 instances of obstruction of justice. It was wrong for Nicole Wallace to use the word "charged" when the Mueller report also explained why it wasn't charging any crimes at all. However, the word "charge" also refers to allegations in a casual sense and not solely to legal charges (which Mueller did not bring at all). In that more conversational sense, Wallace is correct that Mueller charged Trump with having committed 10 instances of obstruction of justice. Those were clearly part of the Mueller Report for anyone to find, who took the time to read the Report.

    charge (definition): "accuse (someone) of something, especially an offense under law"

    Miller did accuse Trump of those 10 obstructions, just not formally. They are offenses under law, whether formally prosecuted or not.

    So, Somerby is really crawling out on a limb with this accusation against Wallace. She wasn't lying. She was using a word in a slightly different sense than Somerby preferred. That may be a hanging crime in deadrat's world, but not among English speakers, who do use linguistic charity. As a fan of Wittgenstein, Somerby should understand that term, but he seems not to. See also Quine.

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  9. I don't understand whether Somerby thinks the focus on Washington's thighs would have helped him or hurt him during his presidential election.

    And in fact, what does it matter whether someone is discussing George Washington's thighs when he isn't a Democratic Party candidate this time around?

    I want someone to discuss Bernie's thighs!

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    1. Some people are after Bernie’s butt.


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  10. "It seemed to us that's what she said, but with multimillionaire novelists like Maddow, the viewer can never be sure."

    Here we see the heart of Somerby's spite.

    Rachel Maddow has published two nonfiction books that have sold reasonably well (for nonfiction). Somerby couldn't interest a publisher in his own book about Gore's mistreatment, so he didn't finish it.

    When you get a Ph.D in any subject, it teaches you how to persevere and finish a lengthy, difficult project. Doctoral candidates learn how to overcome obstacles (including their own discouragement and eventual boredom with their own topic), negotiate with critics and an academic committee to gain approval, and finally bring that project to completion. That gives you a leg up when it comes to publishing your research. After graduation, the first job of a new professor is to get their dissertation published as a book. Without doing that, you don't get promoted and tenured. A second book gets you promoted again.

    But Somerby thinks higher ed is a waste of time. He mocks anyone who went to an "elite" school. He especially dislikes professors. I suspect it is because they (including Rachel Maddow) can do what he couldn't accomplish. They were trained to do it. Somerby didn't have the training and that's partly why he failed. His lack of writing skills (which doctoral candidates must acquire too) is another reason. But his lack of perseverance is surely a reason too. Rachel has the chops and Somerby doesn't. So he hates her.

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    1. Special explanation for deadrat: Where is the spite expressed? It is in Somerby's use of the word "novelist" to describe Maddow, who writes researched nonfiction (fact-based) books. It is also in his reference to her being a "multimillionaire". If her money (e.g., success) didn't gripe him, he wouldn't mention it so often.

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    2. Somerby couldn’t interest a publisher in his own book, so he didn’t finish it.

      Possibly. How do you know this?

      Somerby thinks higher ed is a waste of time.

      Really? All higher ed? What has he written to give you that impression? He seems to like anthropology.

      [TDH] mocks anyone who went to an “elite” school.

      Don’t you think he mocks those who went to elite schools and tend to hire from those schools, thus creating a bubble for themselves?

      [TDH] especially dislikes professors.

      Really? He seems to love Harari.

      [TDH] didn’t have the training and that’s … why he failed.

      How do you know this?

      [TDH’s] lack of writing skills … is another reason.

      Really? He seems a fairly adept polemicist to me, but maybe that’s just me.

      [TDH’s] perseverance is surely a reason too [for his failure].

      Has he failed? By whose lights? Yours? He seems to have made a living as a stand-up comic, which is practically the definition of perseverance. Not to mention writing this blog almost daily for over 20 years.

      TDH uses the epithet “novelist” to describe people who report news in a fictionalized way to fit a preset narrative. For RM, that’s her show. Has TDH ever commented on her books?

      TDH mentions “multimillionaire” media stars to warn you that they’re likely to march to the tune of their multi-multimillionaire employers rather than be objective reporters. Whether he’s right or wrong about this is independent of his motivation, which might well be spite or envy. But so what and how would you know this anyway?

      For some reason, you keep trying to get inside Somerby’s head, but you have no reliable way to do that. The attempt leads you astray constantly and away from the points he tries to make. Why do you do that?

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    3. "[TDH’s] lack of writing skills … is another reason.

      Really? He seems a fairly adept polemicist to me, but maybe that’s just me."

      You have to admit that he is repetitive. His posted book chapters had that flaw too. He needed to write from an outline instead of shooting from the hip, as he does in these essays too.

      Lack of perseverance is obvious from the fact that he stopped writing.

      He doesn't like anthropologists -- he is using them as a rhetorical device, the same way he uses Aristotle.

      Lately, Somerby's points have been frequently wrong. That hasn't always been true.

      Does Somerby also mention Rachel "stuffing cash in her pants," an ugly phrase, to remind us that she might not be objective? I find that suggestion ridiculous. Ugly language comes from animosity, not a dispassionate belief that reporters shouldn't be paid because is corrupts their objectivity.

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    4. You have to admit that he is repetitive.

      Obsessively so. For me, that’s always been part of his charm (or whatever the opposite of charm is).

      Lack of perseverance is obvious from the fact that he stopped writing.

      He stopped writing his book about Gore, but it seems downright perverse to make this accusation of someone who has published a daily blog for over two decades.

      But let’s not get too far afield from your thesis, which is that Somerby is a failure, his failure stems from deficiencies in skill and character, those deficiencies stand in contrast to RM, and the resulting contrast has embittered him toward RM.

      Your claims and conclusion aren’t entirely unreasonable, but are they right? I’ve been trying to convince you that you have no reliable way to tell. Does Somerby consider himself a failure as a writer? If so, has that sad state embittered him toward RM?

      How could you possibly know? I’m not inclined to give you much credence on this when you argue that a 20-year blog veteran lacks perseverance because at age 70 he didn’t finish a book no one wanted to publish.

      But aside from the accuracy of your character analysis, the motivation and emotional investment of writers are independent of the truth of what they write. And since that accuracy is dubious at best, why not stick to presenting your argument that …

      Lately, Somerby's points have been frequently wrong. That hasn't always been true.

      Now, I don’t know about the second point. For example, his ridiculous views on the presentation of science and mathematics are longstanding. But the first point is at least amenable to evidence not gathered by reading the mental state of someone unknown to you.

      Ugly language comes from animosity, not a dispassionate belief that reporters shouldn't be paid because is [sic] corrupts their objectivity.

      Ugly language might or might not come from animosity. Shall I speculate on what animosity leads you to baldly mischaracterize TDH’s claim as “reporters shouldn’t be paid”?

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    5. “He seems a fairly adept polemicist to me, but maybe that’s just me.”

      It’s just you. Nobody reads this blog.

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  12. Bob’s “perseverance” did not extend to teaching those Baltimore kids. He gave that up pretty damn quick for the more glamorous profession of stand-up comedy, where one gets to hobnob with the future greats of comedy.

    Now, whether that was bad of good for the kids remains to be seen.

    And what his comedic contributions to “modern progressive values” were is unclear.

    He does not seem to exhibit the so-called values that he urges on the rest of us: don’t judge others motivations, don’t stereotype people. He does this all the time. Apparently, part of being a good polemicist is hypocrisy.

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    1. Bob’s “perseverance” did not extend to teaching those Baltimore kids. He gave that up pretty damn quick for the more glamorous profession of stand-up comedy,….

      As opposed to all the time you spent teaching poor kids. It’s a good thing you’re not about to accuse anybody of hypocrisy.

      Oh, wait. I might have spoken too soon.

      And what his comedic contributions to “modern progressive values” were is unclear.

      So the job of a stand-up comic is to contribute to modern progressive values? When did that become part of the job description?

      He does not seem to exhibit the so-called values that he urges on the rest of us: don’t judge others motivations, don’t stereotype people.

      I fear you’ve mistaken TDH (the blog) for a manual of moral improvement. TDH (the blogger) is not a moral scold; he’s a political scold. TDH does stereotype liberals in unflattering terms, and commenters here have rightly taken him to task for unwarranted generalization. But his thesis isn’t that liberal bad behavior should change so that liberals can become better people; it’s that failure to change (in his view) leads to losing elections. 65M people voted for an obvious, self-confessed grifter, liar, tax cheat, sexual assaulter, adulterer, serial liar, all-round incompetent, bigot, and traitor.

      Maybe learning not to lump them together under a pejorative label isn’t the best way to get them to vote differently.

      (I’m the first to admit that I can’t be taught that new trick.)

      TDH also strikes me as more of a what kind of person than awhy kind of person. That is, I don’t find him criticizing the motivation of reporters who get NAEP stories “wrong.” He excoriates those who get these things wrong for the getting.

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    2. TDH's theory is nonsense.
      You don't coddle stone-cold racists so they vote differently. You outvote the pieces of shit.

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