TRAUMA AND REVOLUTION: What do we need at times like these?

MONDAY, JUNE 22, 2020

Novelization or fact?:
Only the good die young, Billy Joel once claimed.

That claim was false, as is this additional claim:

Only the smartest ones are ever completely stupid.

We formulated that aphorism after perusing the latest from Slate. In particular, we formulated that notion after perusing the piece which ran beneath these headlines:
“The Karens Are Giving Us a Hard Time Now”
A waiter at a reopened restaurant explains how dining works in a pandemic.
As we've recently noted, "Karens" is a new term of group denigration. It follows the earlier phrase "dumb blondes," replacing the condescension of the earlier term with a more modern type of moral condemnation.

Everyone's whacking the Karens! It's a term which lets the most human among us enjoy a fully human impulse—the impulse to engage in the invention of the other.

Only the (allegedly) smart ones are ever totally stupid? We promulgated our aphorism after reading this account of the authorship of the Slate piece:
This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Magi, who works as a waiter at an American Chinese restaurant in Boca Raton, Florida. The conversation has been transcribed, condensed, and edited for clarity by [NAME WITHHELD].
NAME WITHHELD—he'd be socially defined as a guy—is now three years out of Yale (class of 2017). As noted, only the (supposedly) brightest and best are ever really this dumb.

WITHHELD is almost surely a good decent person, but he's also a child of a certain age. It didn't seem to enter his head—or the heads of his editors, if any exist—that such terms of demographic denigration spread quickly through a society, and that they're hard to tamp down, restrict, walk back or control.

(For the record, the enjoyable denigration of women played major roles in the way George W. Bush, then Donald J. Trump, ended up in the White House. We refer to the denigration of women on the part of the upper-end mainstream press corps.)

With regard to the current term of group denigration, your limbic brain will tell you to say that it's only meant as a criticism of a certain type of woman. Go ahead—keep saying that! People like us always do!

At any rate, the sheer stupidity of our war-inclined species may be its most obvious trait. In fairness, this stupidity represents the best we can be expected to do, according to the group of major anthropologists with whom we routinely consult.

These experts say it's a function of the way our imperfect brains are wired. Our brains are wired to identify others, they say. Things tend to proceed from there.

For ourselves, the best thing we've done since the lockdown arrived was to rewatch the 1982 film, Sophie's Choice. This led us back to Emily Dickinson's Ample Make This Bed, but also to the plea for mercy, empathy, pity with which William Styron ended his 1979 novel:

This week, we plan to talk about trauma and traumatization. Essays which seem to describe this state of affairs have been appearing widely of late, raising significant questions.

By way of background, people are often treated quite badly. A few days ago, to cite one example, we clicked a link and were taken to an essay in the Hartford Courant.

The essay appeared in 2015. In the essay, a young person—she was then 22—said this about her own life. Headline included:
DCF Needs To Stop Blaming The Children

By the time I was 16, I had already experienced a lifetime of trauma.
My family mistreated me. The state took me away from them and dumped me into a shelter. The foster family I was placed with rejected me. My social worker decided to place me at a residential treatment center in New Britain. She promised me that being there would help to heal my anxiety and depression, and that I would eventually return to living with a family.

But when I entered the doors of the facility, I knew this wasn't a place where I would heal.
The girls' unit had a small, dimly lit common area and a long hallway of residents' rooms. It looked and felt more like a prison than a restorative environment. The only times we left the unit were for school or an occasional scheduled trip to the mall. For the most part, we were stuck in the dark common area, leaving us feeling claustrophobic and in desperate need of fresh air.

The focus of the place was compliance, not treatment. The staff was overwhelmingly undertrained and authoritarian. Too frequently, they let their own emotional reactions guide their response to the girls in their charge. When a girl talked back or slammed her bedroom door, staff might throw her to the ground, restrain her and drag her to the solitary confinement cell. There was little oversight and fewer consequences.

[...]

Though the facility was supposed to heal my brokenness, I left it far more shattered than I went in...
Styron ended Sophie's Choice with a memorial to all "the beaten and butchered and betrayed and martyred children of the earth." He didn't restrict himself to Holocaust victims and "survivors"—to people like the Sophie of his title. He listed many others besides.

The person who published that account of her youth was in the news last week. Today, she's 27 years old—and the site at which we found that link referred to her a "a monster."

So these things tend to go.

On balance, we'd be inclined to say that the young woman who wrote that essay made a shaky decision in recent weeks. That said, when we keep childhood trauma in mind, and when we muse on the inevitable fruits of our nation's brutal racial history, we're inclined to reserve our criticism for the Washington Post, which commissioned and published a truly astonishing "news report" last week.

Almost surely, the Post was seeking to cover its ascot, protecting itself against attack in these revolutionary times. To accomplish that task, the newspaper was apparently willing to throw a private person under a very large bus.

The young woman to whom we've referred was 22 when she wrote that essay for the Courant. We can't vouch for the accuracy of anything she wrote that day, but the Courant apparently judged that her essay raised important questions about one of Connecticut's major social institutions.

Five years later, that young woman hit the news again, this time in the Post. We'd be inclined to say that her aim may not have been fully true this time around.

That said, you can't make the types of decisions our benighted ancestors made without creating shock waves—shock waves which will reverberate down through the annals of time. In part, we think of what Lincoln said in his Second Inaugural Address.

All this week, we'll be looking at recent essays which suggest types of traumatization, or something resembling that. Your limbic brain may ask you to be offended by this framework. According to experts, limbic brains are inclined to do things like that.

This will be part of a longer discussion concerning what Jelani Cobb said about the current state of American policing. It will be part of a longer discussion concerning the ways the mainstream press corps has tended to report this ongoing conduct.

According to the Washington Post's invaluable Fatal Force site, police officers have shot and killed roughly a thousand people in each of the past five years (2015-2019). How should we understand that fact? We'll be pondering that question over the next several weeks.

This week, we'll start with some personal essays. They've appeared fairly widely in the past few weeks and they do, and then again sometimes don't, make absolute perfect sense.

What lies behind these personal essays? Among other things, mountains of American history lie behind these essays. Keeping that horrible fact in mind, the question we're asking is this:

At revolutionary times such as these, should we live on novels alone, or do we need accurate facts?

Tomorrow: The 7-year-old "was terrified," his mother said

More fun with the Karens: As we type, Slate is offering, within an advertisement, a link to a hard-hitting report at another site. Here's how the report is headlined:
Hairstyles That Women Should Ditch: Retire The "Karen"
Warning! This is the way we nitwits behave when we've gone to the finest schools!

45 comments:

  1. Is this the story you're talking about, dear Bob:
    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/352756/wapo-blackface-story-takes-cancel-culture-to-new.html

    If it is, this is only one of many. I'm seeing reports every day of people being ruined for much less than this.

    Well, dear Bob, your zombie cult started their mccarthyist campaign four years ago, and this is how these things inevitably turn, sooner or later. Look for Enemies of The People, and you'll find plenty.

    More unmasking of the enemies, denunciations, and blacklisting to follow, no doubt about that.

    Pass the popcorn, dear Bob.

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    1. That is the story Somerby promised to talk about, but of course never will. The link already served its purpose yesterday, as a dog whistle. If he were to actually talk about the article, he would lose his ability to say "that isn't what I was going to say about it".

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  2. "Only the (allegedly) smart ones are ever totally stupid?"

    There he goes, bashing to supposed intellectual elites again. Being smart is bad because smart people are the stupidest. And although he keeps denying the truth of the statement, yet he repeats it as if it were wisdom (having it both ways).

    This is anti-intellectualism and it is a conservative hallmark.

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    1. No, the "allegedly" smart people are acting stupid again (by TDH's lights).

      Not a label anyone has ever alleged about you, I'll bet.

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    2. You left out "totally".

      Notice how you immediately get personal? What's that all about?

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    3. You wrote something dumb with an even dumber conclusion.

      And I suppose I should have said, “[smart …] Not a label anyone has ever alleged about anything you’ve written.” Instead I jumped to a conclusion based on the premise that stupid is as stupid does.

      This isn’t personal. It can’t be: I don’t know you personally. In fact, I don’t know anything about you, not even your name, not even a nym. I can’t write anything valid about any personal characteristic you possess.

      Likewise, you don’t know me, not even my name. Why would you take anything I say personally. What’s that all about?

      How about you take it as criticism of what you write? If you don’t want to be ridiculed for what you say, stop saying ridiculous things.

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  3. "Everyone's whacking the Karens! It's a term which lets the most human among us enjoy a fully human impulse—the impulse to engage in the invention of the other."

    And I thought it enabled the human impulse of whacking figures of authority -- in this case mom.

    The other doesn't have to be invented. We learn it in early toddlerhood, when we learn that we are separate from our mothers and realize our own individuality. But Somerby doesn't read child development, much less Freud, and he doesn't read anthropology either, despite throwing around the word Other (which more properly is part of social psychology). How do I know this? Somerby is not talking about cultures here, he is talking about individual people and how they behave, and that is the social science called psychology NOT anthropology.

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  4. "the enjoyable denigration of women"

    Why would Somerby add the word "enjoyable" to that sentence?

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    1. Read the italicized part of the entry's next sentence. Then go back and read TDH's blog entries on Keith Olbermann.

      Do me a favor and don't come back until you understand.

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    2. You think you can mansplain to any woman here what misogyny is?

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    3. You’re back and still ignorant. Couldn’t you simply do the minor favor I asked of you? The answer to your question is that history says its impossible to explain the simplest things to Anonymous Ignoramuses like you. You’d rather wallow in your manufactured outrage.

      And, of course, I have no idea of the sex of any of the commenters here.

      I gave you pointers from the text of TDH’s blog entries that should lead even the slowest among your cohort to understand that TDH is not making a misogynistic comment.

      Horse. Water. Lead to. Drink. And all that.

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    4. Look deadrat, you are a man and you think you can explain misogyny. You don't have to know my sex to see what's wrong with that picture.

      Somerby gratuitously inserted the word "enjoyable" in a context where it doesn't belong. I don't have to be Freud to understand where he is coming from.

      Tell me again why Chanel Miller had it coming...

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    5. And you know I’m a man, how? Based on my claims that I’m a man? Can you trust that? Based on your prejudices about how “men” express themselves?

      The “enjoyable” was not gratuitous, and it doesn’t become so because you can’t read for comprehension or because of your apparent need to be offended. You don’t have to be Freud to understand people, but to be a psychoanalyst, you have to have been psychoanalyzed yourself, on the theory that self-insight is important to the understanding of others. You might want to give it a try.

      Chanel Miller didn’t have it coming.

      I don’t believe she did; TDH never took the position that she did. Contemplate why you think otherwise. It might do you some good. It might at least give you pause, if not stop you, from posting such dumb things here.

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    6. "TDH never took the position that she did."

      TDH insisted that the amount of alcohol she had in her system was being suppressed in order to make her seem like more of a victim.

      Does he have to come right out and say it in so many words?

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    7. No, but he does have to at least imply it. Assuming your claim is true -- and as usual, you won't actually provide a quote -- this is a complaint about reporting about the victim of a rape and not about the victim herself.

      No matter how drunk Miller was, she didn't "have it coming." I don't believe she did, and I'm still waiting for you to quote TDH saying she did. And it's going to be a long wait.

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  5. Why is Somerby so coy about identifying who wrote that description of child treatment in the child welfare system? He makes it seem like she grew up to be a serial killer. What is his purpose in hiding her behind innuendo?

    And, as someone female, I dislike that he is using the term "Karen" for his own purposes today. I have never found that term particularly offensive. I dislike Stacey more (even though it has a male equivalent Chad), and Barbie and Bambi, all the bimbo names (and yes, that term too). Karen fits right in with Stepford Wife and the recurring stereotype of the oversocialized woman, always older, who enforces society's mores, Nurse Ratched. All of these women are targets of hostility for men who resent their mother's authority of them, resent the claim women have on them sexually or through their original role teaching them the rules of civilized life. So, Somerby is correct that Karen is a term of hostility but wrong about what she represents.

    Because women socialize young children and as mothers and teachers explicitly teach right behavior, they are central in perpetuating or overthrowing racism learned in the crib. Because systemic racism is the racism built into our society, not personal animus, and that comes from the institutions that socialize, including mom.

    But Somerby pretends some kid from Yale invented "Karen." What an ass Somerby is once again.

    And why is he talking about trauma? What on earth does that have to do with Karen and restaurant behavior? I tend to find his unctuous concern over Sophie's choice offensive in the extreme, the more so today because he is so vague about why he has raised this in the context of a young woman with a self-serving description of her childhood. Is Somerby working up to suggesting that white officers shoot black men because they have traumatic childhoods? What is his point with this. And yes, I am offended, and not because of a knee-jerk reaction of my limbic brain. Somerby borrows and uses legitimate creations of other people without regard to THEIR meanings, plugging them into his essay to serve his own goals. But he doesn't have the guts to state his actual opinions in a direct way so that others can address them. Today's essay is an evocative hash without a focus at all. What a waste of time.

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    1. But Somerby pretends some kid from Yale invented "Karen." What an ass Somerby is once again.

      Yoo dont reed reel gud.

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    2. 2:02
      Somerby is blaming Name Withheld for typing up someone else’s use of “Karen.” That term is already in widespread use by the public. Should Name Withheld have edited that out of the article? Wouldn’t that be censorship? Should Slate be held responsible for the article more than Name Withheld?

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    3. Is Somerby withholding the name because it happens to be "Karen"?

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  6. "As we type, Slate is offering, within an advertisement, a link to a hard-hitting report at another site. Here's how the report is headlined: Hairstyles That Women Should Ditch: Retire The "Karen"

    Warning! This is the way we nitwits behave when we've gone to the finest schools!"

    First, why is Somerby so adamantly opposed to the existence of fashion articles online? Fashion is fueled by built-in obsolescence of styles, in this case, a particular hair cut that stylists are trying to convince women to abandon (after first making it ubiquitous). Second, what on earth does this have to do with "the finest schools?" The ad for another article that Somerby references has nothing at all to do with any university or prep school. Online, there is speculation that the use of the term "Karen" refers back to a line in the movie Mean Girls, which was written by Tina Fey.

    Given that Somerby is on the wrong side of women's issues in general, and has been consistent in his attacks on female journalists and politicians, his feigned outrage over the use of the name Karen to refer to a woman who wants to enforce her idea of the rules by calling 911 likely has nothing to do with concern for women. It seems more likely that he is defending white privilege as Karen stories have increasingly focused on white women who complain about black men doing everyday things that aren't bothering anyone. Somerby apparently feels that mocking such women, who are coming to stand for the front line in everyday harassment of black people going about their business, is actually a form of intellectual over-reach. This, of course, implies that black people are only complaining about such micro-aggressions because white intellectuals have taught them to feel abused.

    And all of this is conservative thinking, not liberal.

    But Somerby wants us to believe he is sticking up for women, not defending those Karens, against the forces of Other (are women really the Other?) because !Anthropology!.

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  7. "That claim was false, as is this additional claim:

    Only the smartest ones are ever completely stupid."

    The sentences on the other side of this card is false. On the other side of the card is written: The sentence on the other side of this card is true.

    So, Somerby writes a ridiculous statement, calls it false, then proceeds to rant as if it were true.

    Cognitive psychologists have found that people process a negative by formulating a sentence as a positive, then negating it (NOT Every squirrel finds its nut.) This process is partly why it is hard for people to process double negatives.

    When you state something and then negative it using language, there is a strong possibility that the positive meaning will be retained while the negation is forgotten. This is especially true when the bulk of Somerby's essay proceeds as if his original positive framing were true, not negated at the beginning.

    There is nothing clever about this -- it is a technique of propaganda, along with tricks such as showing a terrible scene while a voice over says "this never happened". The image will stick, not the info about falsity.

    Meanwhile, Somerby gets to deny that he said that the smartest people are completely stupid, while a percentage of people will absorb exactly that message, especially with repetition (and boy howdy does Somerby repeat!).

    And what is gained by teaching people to be suspicious of smart people? Ask Trump, he knows.

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    1. Take a look at the state of our society, as currently run by "smart people," and I think the purpose is pretty obvious on the face of it. Hint: the alleged smart people aren't that smart.

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    2. 2:05
      “Run” by “smart people?” What does that mean? When will the dumb people, or perhaps the average citizens, demand change, get off their asses, turn off the TV, and vote the bums out? Or are we all just waiting for an elite savior to point our ignorant selves in the right direction? Will a truly smart elite eliminate political partisanship?

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    3. As someone said many years ago: if there is any hope, it lies in the proles.

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    4. No one would ever call the current administration smart. All those average citizens did get together and they chose Trump because they think the gold lettering on his buildings is real gold.

      If the alleged smart people aren't smart, how much dumber are the dumb people? Hint: dump enough to elect Trump.

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    5. Mao, who was it who wrote that if there is any hope, it lies in the "proles?" And when did it ever happen that hope was realized due to "the proles."

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    6. George Orwell.

      The point is (too me, at least) that 'educated' elites often get taken with some abstract idea and go completely insane.

      Ordinary working people, on the other hand, are almost always guided by traditions and common sense. Much more skeptical of 'ideas', much more grounded.

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  8. “With regard to the current term of group denigration, your limbic brain will tell you to say that it's only meant as a criticism of a certain type of woman. Go ahead—keep saying that! People like us always do!”

    May I suggest “Don Juan”, a real person, whose name came to mean womanizer.

    Or “john”, meaning male customer of a prostitute. It comes from the proper name “John.”

    Or “dick”, meaning male member, and jerk. It also comes from the name “Dick”, often a nickname for Richard.

    These terms are not applied to all men, but rather types of men.

    This type of thing is standard practice in human cultures.

    But of course, if you disagree with Somerby, it is your limbic brain talking. Hence, you are an unevolved idiot.

    Somewhere, there is a debate rule that advises against saying things like this, because it can indicate a weak argument. Or the lack of one. And it demeans your audience.

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    1. "Or “dick”, meaning male member, and jerk. [...] These terms are not applied to all men, but rather types of men."

      I agree.

      However, if anyone of the infidels called someone a 'bitch', you and your ilk would've immediately accused them of denigrating all women, and declared them disgustingly misogynistic. There's no doubt about that; you know it as well as I do.

      The difference between Bob and you, in this particular episode, is that he demands consistency.

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    2. “Bitch” isn’t derived from a proper name.

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    3. Ugh, I committed a thoughtcrime again. Sorry, scratch "women": wimmin.

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    4. Eh, what? Are you implying that calling someone a 'dick' is the same as calling them 'Richard'?

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    5. Mao, try womyn. Wimmin is what Peewee Herman says.

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    6. So, is the term "karens" applied based on one's behavior or just belonging to a perceived class?

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    7. Behavior, because if you mind your own business and aren't interfering with someone else, you aren't being a "karen" at all.

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    8. So one woman in Central Park acts like an idiot (and is disgraced and loses her job), and this shows she embodies a type of woman known as a "Karen," and somehow helps to prove the existence of "systemic racism." Makes sense. It's said that stereotyping is bad, even racist sometimes, but this Karen thing couldn't possibly be that.

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  9. Please remember that there are women named "Karen" who like their names just fine.

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