THURSDAY, MARCH 18, 2021
Has anyone tried to find out?: We've taken down this original post because much of it was wrong.
As it turns out, it seems that the weekend Joe Pags Show replayed the original interview with Ron Johnson. We haven't listened to it yet, but apparently it's replayed there.
What did Ron Johnson say in the full interview? We'll revisit this topic at some point.
Update concerning the interview: If you want to hear the full talk radio interview in which Ron Johnson made his recent widely-discussed comments, the rebroadcast of the interview starts at 19:15 of this audio tape of The Joe Pags Show.
The 43-second audio clip which has been widely played occurs shortly after the 25-minute mark. Several minutes earlier, Johnson has said that he condemns, and has always condemned, the people who engaged in the riot / insurrection at the Capitol building.
He makes other remarks which you will likely regard as dumb and/or embellished. But he says at several points that he condemns the people who rioted. Pags is more articulate than Johnson in making this same basic point.
Our assessments? On the one hand, Johnson often makes dumb remarks. He does so during this interview.
(Other reasonably valid points get made, possibly in embellished form. These are the kinds of points you aren't likely to hear discussed at "corporate liberal" news orgs.)
On the other hand, that 43-second audio clip strikes us as the product of a rather selective edit. This is the way our modern discourse quite routinely works.
(You can hear Pags making the claim that Johnson has been selectively paraphrased at the start of the program. We can't really say that his several claims are wrong.)
We may try to offer an overview of this matter in the next few days. On the other hand, we've wasted a lot of time in the past week trying to find the audiotape of that fuller interview. We had clicked through that two-hour audiotape on several occasions, trying without success to find Johnson's voice.
Is Johnson dumb, or is he a propagandist? We can only tell you this:
Johnson has seemed to be dumb for years; during this interview, Pags is far more coherent. This dumbness predated the point at which the recent perceived propaganda may have seemed to start.
The nation's discourse is falling apart. This partisan process is taking place here in Our Town too.