Names Sean Hannity’s name: In this morning’s New York Times, Timothy Egan penned a column about Cliven Bundy, our excessively thrifty rancher.
In many ways, Bundy’s slice of Nevada is our own eastern Ukraine. It’s hard to maintain a sense of unity within the population of a vast continental nation.
There will always be some people and groups who don’t feel like they’re part of the game. Bundy’s comrades in the west “don’t recognize” the United States government. There are those in eastern Ukraine who don’t recognize Kiev.
We wouldn’t affirm every word in Egan’s column. In our view, there was no apparent reason to mention Bundy’s religion. We thought his snark about “the far right” was perhaps excessive.
In his original hard-copy posting, Egan took a statement by Ron Paul and put it into Rand Paul’s mouth. Tribal feeling can sometimes lead to errors of that type.
We also think that Egan may have buried his lede at the end of his column. In our view, this was possibly worth saying earlier:
EGAN (4/18/14): Ranching is hard work. Drought and market swings make it a tough go in many years. That’s all the more reason to praise the 18,000 or so ranchers who pay their grazing fees on time and don’t go whining to Fox or summoning a herd of armed thugs when they renege on their contract. You can understand why the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association wants no part of Bundy.Good for Egan for saying that—and good for all those other ranchers, the ones who aren’t in the news this week! If you want your continental nation to function, it’s a good idea for members of various groups to praise the obvious good which is found in others.
These kinds of showdowns are rare because most ranchers play by the rules, and quietly go about their business. They are heroes, in one sense, preserving a way of life that has an honorable place in American history. The good ones would never wave a gun in the face of a public servant, and likely never draw a camera from Fox.
That said, Egan did something in this column which we’ve been requesting for years. Good lord! Right there in the New York Times, Egan stood up on the hood of his dust-caked truck and named an actual name:
EGAN: This phony event has brought out the worst of the gun-waving far right, and the national politicians who are barely one degree of separation from them...Was that really Sean Hannity’s name we saw in the New York Times? Strange as it seems, criticism of our cable buffoons virtually never occurs in our big papers of record.
With their assault rifles and threats, the thugs in the desert forced federal officials with the Bureau of Land Management to back down from a court-ordered confiscation of Bundy’s cattle. One of the rancher’s supporters, Richard Mack, a Tea Party leader who is in the National Rifle Association’s Hall of Fame, said he planned to use women as human shields in a violent showdown with law enforcement.
“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up front,” Mack said in a radio interview. “If they were going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot.”
That’s who Fox and friends are playing with these days—militia extremists who would sacrifice their wives to make some larger point about a runaway federal government. And what’s more, the Fox host Sean Hannity has all but encouraged a violent confrontation.
Hannity has played the sea-to-sea fool concerning the breakaway rancher. Has he “all but encouraged a violent confrontation?”
We’d require support for such a statement before we’d put it in print. But for years, we have said that it is news when TV “newsmen” mislead or misinform the public or behave in ludicrous ways.
We were pleased to see Hannity’s name in print this morning. We’d like to see more details next time. Once in a while, we’d like to see the news division at the Times do some news reporting on misstatements and other wayward behavior by such influential figures.
Warning! Sauce for the gander should make the Times too! Concerning a range of issues, our own Rachel Maddow has reminded us of Hannity more and more in recent year.
In a more journalistic world, misstatements made on the “liberal” channel would count as real news too.
Uh oh! Rachel Maddow also named Sean Hannity for the very same reason.
ReplyDeleteSomerby now has to praise her or ignore it. Or find some way in which she didn't name him the right way, the Somerby way, then gripe about that.
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Is Maddow our paper of record? Is she suddenly a journalist now because she calls out Hannity, or is she just being tribal in her usual way.
DeleteAh, so Maddow isn't very important. Better tell your fearless leader. He sure does devote a lot of his blog to her.
DeleteI find Maddow to be horrible with her pathetic Daily Show rip off.
DeleteTo each his own. I don't. Says more about us than her, doesn't it?
DeleteNo.
DeleteOh, I see. You think she's horrible and her show is a Daily Show rip off, and that becomes the objective truth.
DeleteYou are such a good sheep in Somerby's flock.
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ReplyDeleteWhen last BOB covered FOX he was semi praising the way they started their Bundy coverage. Then, when a commenter noted that the blog Crooks and Liars, through founder John Amato, had pointed out the real bullroar being spread on Fox, other commenters followed. When one took note that Maddow had devoted most of a program to denouncing Hannity, another sarcastically predicted BOB would either defend Hannity or find a way to fault Maddow.
Your Howler commenters get results. Even though he has a seven year old on his hands, BOB broke away to prove his inherent liberal side by praising someone other than the perspiring pimp of piddle and disappearing her effort. BOB reads comments. BOB answers his critics.
We agree with BOB. Good for Egan. But while BOB was regaling the rubes with multiple parts, subparts, and pregnant pauses in the crusade against "implied" misuse of a statistic for weeks stretchiing back almost two years, Mr. Egan named another name.
Compare BOB's past silly drivel on Irish to Egan's work on Paul Ryan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/opinion/sunday/paul-ryans-irish-amnesia.html?_r=0
Another fine NYT contribution BOB disappeared. We, of course, enjoyed it not because of tribal opposition to Ryan or love of the Irish. We love it when hypocrites are called out by name.
KZ
One must wonder why Bob lavishes so much attention on the No. 2 network in evening cable news-talk, and so little on the No. 1. And when he does, it seems to be done as posterior-covering in the middle of a long "series" with multiple preludes, interludes, parts and epilogues in which he attempts to beat on No. 2's coverage of a particular by repeating No. 1's precise talking points.
DeleteBut every now and then, we do get a post about Fox. We recall a classic on Dec. 17 headlined: "When Megyn Kelly was good!"
This was just after Megyn attempted to assure the children of America that Santa Claus was indeed white. Bob paid lip service to that, then reached back some two weeks to praise Kelly for the masterful job she did interviewing a former Obama deputy press secretary.
And even though she constantly interrupted the guy before he could make his point, even that was done masterfully:
"Kelly kept interrupting Burton and refocusing him. In our view, she did so appropriately and skillfully."
And what was the subject of said interview? It was, "Obama lied when he said you could keep your crappy health insurance policy." The partisan bullroar Fox was trying to sell that eventually had all the traction of Benghazi, the IRS, and other phony trumped up "scandals."
Bob paid no attention to Fox selling that load of fertilizer. Instead, he was too busy defending Chris Christie and Gov. Ultrasound against "trumped-up" scandals, and beating a particular MSNBC host whose show happens to appear opposite Ms. Kelly's for "trumping up" those nothing stories.
A fairly apt summary. Or perhaps an aptly fair summary.
DeleteBalanced.
I agree with KZ. Bob improperly criticizes the elites.
Delete10:38 Sounds like you learn well from Somerby. There are imaginary implications everywhere in the writing of others which only you and he can see.
DeleteThis is because the rest of the unwashed masses are merely "rubes" with "lizard brains" and incapable of seeing such "implications" as the uber-brilliant Bob and those who allow him to see for them.
DeleteI don't think MSNBC is even number 2, if that's who you mean. But yes, Bob's memory has even gotten faulty even as to the days when he DID call Fox to question. O"Reilly has somehow emerge as a good guy in his treatment of Al Gore, even though he led a nightly campaign insisting Janet Reno arrest him! For dealing with him in the present tense, I would just say he endorses this article and let it go at that.
Delete'We thought his snark about “the far right” was perhaps excessive.'
ReplyDeleteThe strip-tease continues. Why don't you just come out, blogger?
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'Was that really Sean Hannity’s name we saw in the New York Times? Strange as it seems, criticism of our cable buffoons virtually never occurs in our big papers of record.
Hannity has played the sea-to-sea fool concerning the breakaway rancher.
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Anybody notice the indignation gap - Hannity is just a "buffoon"? And where does Hannity stuff all the money he is making? Don't the blogger's three and a half fans need to know?
And whats up with the East Ukraine comparison? Western Ukraine sided with the Nazis in WW-II. There is no remote parallel here - these traditional, all-American white boys do not want to obey Washington DC that they regard as alien - thats all there is to it.
"There will always be some people and groups who don’t feel like they’re part of the game. Bundy’s comrades in the west “don’t recognize” the United States government. There are those in eastern Ukraine who don’t recognize Kiev."
DeleteThat is truly a bizarre paragraph.
Which one is the half fan?
DeleteI'd say the situation in Ukraine is particularly apt. A group of citizens who feel that their views are being ignored choose bullets over ballots as a means of deciding the issue.
DeleteHere, the matter is quite simple: if we claim to be a country of laws rather than men, we should not cheer on people who cross the line from civil disobedience (where the participants allow themselves to be arrested) to armed rebellion (where people threaten to shoot government officials after losing in court.)
If one grants "traditional, all-American white boys" the right to use armed force to prevent government officials enforcing laws that interfere with the white boys' cattle business, should we also not grant marijuana growers the right to use armed force to prevent the DEA from threatening their traditional activities (also done on public land without permission)?
Even back in the day Bob would say "I'm not that liberal." Like a lot of people, Bob is all over the map.Embracing progressive notions one day, dumping on Easy Rider hippies the next. And as long as I am here to ream his sorry butt for the latter, there's nothing really wrong with that.
DeleteI'm happy to see Hannity criticized by name--if he deserves it. However, as Bob pointed out, Egan doesn't tell us what Hannity said, so we don't know whether his criticism is accurate. I think an accusation of virtually encouraging violence shouldn't be made without explaining what he said that was so bad.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, the "all but" construction is vague. What does it mean to all but encourage a violent confrontation? It means that he didn't literally encourage a violent confrontation, but did say some other, unspecified things. Is this just a way of saying that Hannity was passionate? It seems to me that "all but" means that Egan's statement is subjective.
"However, as Bob pointed out, Egan doesn't tell us what Hannity said, so we don't know whether his criticism is accurate."
DeleteAs a matter of fact, neither does Bob. Which is curious, since he spends so much of his life detailing what Rachel Maddow says. Or thinking he does.
But fear not, David. This is the Information Age. No reason for you to be in the dark and wondering whether Hannity "deserves it."
You can look it up for yourself on this new-fangled thingy called "Google" and "videos" and see it for yourself, then make up your own mind (foolishly assuming it is open).
Anon @ 11:17 AM we would slightly differ with you. BOB spends mush of his life saying what people imply, not what they say. Some of the remainder is spent telling his readers what people suggest. In the interlude he may tell
Deleteyou what to infer.
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David in Cal perhaps you should tune in to Maddow. She had a long segment which included lots of footage of Hannity.
DeleteProf. Reynolds didn't use the phrase, "all but encouraged a violent confrontation.". However, he seemed to be on that wavelength when he wrote:
DeleteHARRY REID: Yes, Protestors at Bundy Ranch Were ‘Domestic Terrorists.’ That’s a lie, but it’s a dangerous one, since it seems to pre-justify government violence while egging on tension. That’s unwise.
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/187088/
Apparently armed protesters closed down I-15, some of them wearing tags saying "domestic terrorist."
DeletePerhaps they meant that ironically.
Perhaps they shut down a federal highway ironically.
KZ, I must also differ with you slightly. Bob frequently tells us only what "seems" to be implied, and what "seems" to be suggested before he goes off on another ballistic rant that also frequently includes large annual salaries stuffed in pants, orange shoes, perspiration, and how said speaker "seems' to fudge about her first TV purchase before proclaiming the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization.
Delete"She had a long segment which included lots of footage of Hannity."
DeleteYes, she did. She provided the evidence that Somerby found somewhat lacking in the Egan piece on which he otherwise lavished praise -- especially for naming Hannity.
Maddow showed not only footage of Hannity throwing gas on this fire, but also other Fox personalities once the memo came down from headquarters that Bundy and his buddies are freedom fighters.
Piece of U.S. history. The Shays' Rebellion opened the eyes of the Founding Fathers that the Articles of Confederation weren't going to work. So they got together to draft the Constitution.
That document specifically gave Congress the authority to raise a militia to put down insurrections. Then they later drafted for ratification the Bill of Rights including the Second Amendment to make raising a "well-regulated militia" that much easier.
Like a lot of sort of progressives, Bob shies away from actually spending a lot of time on specifics with the nuts of the right. "Just ignore them" is often the general attitude.
DeleteBob wrote: The one percent keeps finding ways to syphon off more of the cash.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt, some rich Americans are simply successful parasite, who have figured out ways to grab a big share of the country's wealth without making a positive contribution. However, many other 1 per centers didn't take away part of the country's wealth. Instead, they created additional wealth. They became rich, but their activities also enriched the 99%.
A good example is Larry Ellison, founder of Oracle. Ellison is something like the 3rd richest American. He flaunts his wealth, e.g., by buying up almost the entire island of Lanai. His income is some enormous multiple of what my two daughters earn working for Oracle. It's easy to feel envy and to assert that Ellison is taking too big a share of the wealth.
However, look at how much good Ellison did for America by founding his company here, rather than in come other country. My daughters and thousands of other employees earn wages sufficient to live an upper middle class life. Ellison and all his employees pay state and federal taxes. Without taxes, the government couldn't provide the services it does. And, Oracle sells products that are of great value. At least, I assume they're of great value, because customers pay a lot of money for Oracle's software. In short, despite making an ungodly amount of money, Ellison hasn't stolen from the rest of us. He has enriched the rest of us.
"Without taxes, the government couldn't provide the services it does."
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ReplyDeleteI never knew people still have powers and make things happened this way. My name is Faith Henry am from American. my boyfriend Slay Scot left me for another girl for three months’ ever since then my life have been filled with pains sorrow and heart break because he was my first love who dis virgin me when i was 21 years old. about two years ago, A friend of mine called Bella told me he saw some testimonies of this great Dr AGBAGIE that he can bring back lover within some few days, i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest surprise after three days my boyfriend called me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me and that he is so sorry for every thing he made me went through. i still can’t believe it, because it highly unbelievable it just too real to be real. Thank you Dr AGBAGIE for bringing back my lover and also to my lovely friend who interceded on my behalf, for any one who might need the help of this great priest here is the email address:(agbagietemple@gmail.com) or you can call the great man on (+2348052849204)
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Life is good when you have your love ones around you, I am
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my husband of 9 years left me just because i could not give him A child, i did all i could to make sure i give him a child, i even went to an extent of forcing him to have sex with me every night but could not work. not until one evening when i was browsing through the internet, i saw a comment on how a woman in same problem like mine was made home by A man called lord amadi . i read about him and decided to contact him for help, i did as he ask me to do but i was still wondering how can someone just bring back my love he don't even know but i keep doing as he ask me to do. i was very surprise one morning my husband came and started begging me to come back to his life. at first i pretend to be angry then i accepted him back. lord amadi also cast a spell for me to make me have children and as i speak right now i am a mother with 3kids. if there is any one out there who needs his help you can contact him through his personal EMAIL: lordamadi@outlook.com. phone: +2349066148726. i wish you good luck
ReplyDeleteEvery time i take a look back at what had happened to me i will always appreciate the great Dr Agbazara ( agbazara@gmail.com ) for what he has done for me. This spell caster brought back my lover, who left me just for no reason. I met the great spell caster and he told me all i need to do! Now am glad Dr Agbazara brought him back and he love me more than he used to! you can also contact him on his active Email address ( agbazara@gmail.com ) or add him on Whats-app: ( +2348104102662 ).
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