UPDATE: The culture of incoherence!

MONDAY, APRIL 18, 2016

Looking ahead to next week:
Doggone it.

Last Friday, we ran into a bit of a miscalculation.
We set out to summarize Walter Isaacson's take on Einstein's famous "thought experiment"—the thought experiment which led to the special theory of relativity.

Summarizing Isaacson's presentation took longer than we anticipated. For today, we thought we'd list the key takeaways from his presentation.

Isaacson was trying to explain Einstein's thought experiment about the two lightning strikes and the fast-moving train. Last November, Nova reviewed the same material, offering this basic nugget:

"Simultaneity...depends on how you're moving."

For ourselves, we'd have a hard time explaining Nova's nugget. When we watched the Nova broadcast, we thought they offered one of the most obvious non-explanation explanations we had ever seen.

Eight years earlier, Isaacson had tackled the same material in his best-selling biography, Einstein: His Life and Universe. Isaacson's presentation wasn't as brief as Nova's. On pages 123-128, he offered a somewhat repetitive list of nugget statements, as shown below.

All these statements come straight from Isaacson's text. In statement 5, Isaacson is quoting Einstein:
Isaacson's basic nuggets:
1) Two events that appear to be simultaneous to one observer will not appear to be simultaneous to another observer who is moving rapidly. (Isaacson refers to this as "the key insight.")

2) (In the situation described above), there is no way to declare that one of the observers is really correct. In other words, there is no way to declare that the two events are truly simultaneous.

3) There is no way to say that any two events are “absolutely” or “really” simultaneous.

4) This means that there is no absolute time.

5) “Two events which, viewed from a system of coordinates, are simultaneous, can no longer be looked upon as simultaneous events when envisaged from a system which is in motion relative to that system.” (Direct quotation from Einstein)

6) In other words, there is no such thing as absolute simultaneity.

7) With no such thing as absolute simultaneity, there is no such thing as “real” or absolute time. (Isaacson describes this as "the obvious yet still astonishing conclusion.")
Last November, Nova offered this nugget:

"Simultaneity...depends on how you're moving."

Back in 2007, Isaacson made a similar claim, spelling things out with a bit more precision:

"Two events that appear to be simultaneous to one observer will not appear to be simultaneous to another observer who is moving rapidly."

We don't know why he said that. In our own thought experiment, Woman B (the woman in the caboose of the train) would be moving very rapidly. But to her, the two lightning strikes would appear to be simultaneous, as they did to the man who was standing stock still on the railway platform.

It also isn't clear to us why you'd say "there is no way to declare that one of the observers is really correct" in the case of disputes about the two lightning strikes.

As we noted, Einstein describes "the most natural definition" of simultaneity in his own 1916 book. If we apply that "most natural definition," it's easy to say that the lightning strikes in the thought experiment actually are simultaneous, even if they don't appear to be simultaneous to various observers.

We don't know why Isaacson stated those nuggets. We don't know why Nova reached its nugget conclusion in last November's broadcast.

That said, tell the truth. Once you've imagined Woman B, you can't explain it either!

Starting next Monday, we'll look at what Einstein said about this material in his own Einstein-made-easy book.

Einstein wrote that book in 1916. One hundred years later, we're still getting muddy explanations of its historic text.

Confronted with a century of incoherence, we're supposed to nod our heads and politely pretend that we understand what's being said. After all, Isaacson consulted eighteen different physics professors! And Nova is one of our brainiest news orgs!

For those reasons, we're supposed to nod our heads and politely pretend that we understand what we've been told. As we noted last week, this is precisely what Einstein himself always refused to do.

Coming next week: Einstein's own words

After that: The later Wittgenstein beckons

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  3. Where do the light pulses from the lightening strokes meet? For the man on the embankment, they meet in the middle of the embankment, that is, at the midpoint of the line between the places of the two strokes. So, for him, the strokes are simultaneous.

    For Woman B, as for Woman A, the two light pulses meet somewhere behind Woman A, namely, at the part of the train passing the man when the pulses meet where he's standing. But Woman A is sitting in the middle of the train, that is the midpoint of the line connecting the places, in her trainy frame of reference, where the strokes occurred. Therefore, for Woman B, just as for Woman A, the strokes are not simultaneous.

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    1. imp, in the example Bob is using, the lightning strikes are on the platform. Woman B is adjacent to Man A when both the lightning strikes' light beams reach them both at the same time.

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    2. The light beams take the same time to reach Man A and Woman B. That's because the speed of light is the same for both and (by the design of the experiment) each beam has the same distance to travel, namely half the length of the train car. But since the woman is traveling toward the light beam from the front of the car, she'll meet that light beam first.

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    3. rat 7:57PM -- For the man standing on the platform the train car is shorter than for the women riding on it. So, no, the beam doesn't have the same distance to travel. See Chapter XII of the Einstein book.

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    4. Sure, but there's no absolute yardstick for space either. The woman can't measure the train car from the point of view of the platform. For her, the train car is the same length it always was.

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  4. Anon 6:15PM -- So, if you're describing Bob's thought experiment correctly, Woman B was not at the midpoint of the line connecting the two strokes. By Einstein's definition, two lightning strokes are simultaneous if an observer at the midpoint sees the two flashes simultaneously. Woman B was somewhere behind the midpoint when the strokes occurred, and then she saw the flashes simultaneously. That means that, for her, the forward stroke occurred before the rear stroke.

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    1. The Nova presentation is incomplete, and viewers who didn't have some prior knowledge would not understand what the thought experiment shows.

      I think Bob is confused (rightly so) about travel time of the light. If someone is standing on the platform closer to one lightning strike, of course the light from the closer strike reaches him first. He sees this light first. But his observation would correct for the different distances the light traveled and he would conclude that the lightning strikes occurred at the same time.

      Likewise, on the train, two different observers would both agree on what they observed as far as when the lightning strikes occurred, since they would correct for travel time. (Or you would have observers situated all along the train length so you could measure the timing and position of the lightning strikes without worrying about the travel time of the light)

      Going back to the train experiment, Nova's presentation is bad. An easier, equivalent experiment is considering a moving train car. Say there is a light bulb in the middle of the car, the same distance from either end. A person on the train will observe that when you turn on the light, The light hits each wall at the same time (simultaneously). Now someone on the ground (the train is moving at some speed with respect to the ground), will observe that the same light will hit back end of the train car before the other since the train moves. The events (light hitting front and back of train car) are simultaneous for someone on the train, but not for the observer on the ground.

      Before Einstein, people took it for granted that the speed of light would be shifted by the speed of the train. For example, you get on a moving sidewalk at the airport, it is moving at 4 mph and you are walking on it at 2 mph. Your speed measured from the ground is 4mph+2mph= 6 mph. If you walk in the opposite direction on the moving sideway, your speed with respect to the ground would be 4-2= 2 mph. The pre-Einstein view would be that even though the front wall of the train moves forward, the forward moving light beam is moving faster, as measured from the ground. And likewise, the rear wall of the train is getting closer to the rear moving light beam, but that beam is moving slower relative to the ground. Then the light would hit the walls at the same time. By assuming the speed of light was constant on the moving train and for the stationary observer, Einstein deduced that simultaneous events for one observer will not necessarily be simultaneous for another moving observer.

      It probably shouldn't be surprising that Isaacson's biography doesn't explain the science well. He probably doesn't understand it. I doubt be had a physicist edit the (non)scientific content. To a scientist who read it, they probably enjoyed the biographical info and the attempts at explaining the science would just come across as obvious as saying the derivative of x is 1, without realizing most people would not know what a derivative is.

      I would presume that if they were asked to proof this as a beginners primer on special relativity as opposed to reading a bio on Einstein, then scientist types would have called out Isaacson's non explanations.

      I had better get off this fast moving train, because time in the real world is flying by!

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  5. Dear God! The slowest boy on the world's slowest train is still trying to alter the experiment. What would happen if the man on the platform was wearing a dress that would fit the woman, and the woman on the train was wearing the man's pants? I can't wait for the train to stop to pick of Wittgenstein.

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    1. Is Wittgenstein going to Willoughby? Bob seems to be headed there nd picking up speed.

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  13. Get Your Ex Back After Divorce or breakup right now no matter how hopeless your situation seems!! my husband is back today and i am so excited sharing my testimony with everyone here. I am Natasha Hayes by name and i reside here in USA. I'm happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn't love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{Unityspelltemple@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn't call me for the past{7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our marriage was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster Dr Unity. So, i will advice you out there, if you have any problem contact Dr Unity and i guarantee you that he will help you and you will be the next to share your testimony to every one in the world!!. Email him at: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com or call him on: +2348072370762.

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  14. Fix your broken relationship and marriage right now no matter how hopeless your situation seems!! my husband is back today and i am so excited sharing my testimony with everyone here.I am Natasha Hayes by name and i reside here in USA.I'm happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn't love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{Unityspelltemple@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn't call me for the past{7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our marriage was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster Dr Unity. So, i will advice you out there, if you have any problem contact Dr Unity and i guarantee you that he will help you and you will be the next to share your testimony to every one in the world!!. Email him at: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com or call him on: +2348072370762.

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  15. Midred Jackson Says

    Am giving this testimony because am happy and only GOD in heaven will help me to bless and protect this great spell caster called Dr Otis Darko as he is a GODSENT into my life to change the situation of my life and restore JOY, HAPPINESS AND LAUGHTER into my life again as he alone is who I can say contact because he was the only one that could help me get my ex back to me and made him love and cherish me like never before....

    My name is Midred Jackson from Michigan I never believed in love spells or magic until I met this spell caster once. when I went to Africa in November 28th 2015 last year on a business summit. I ment a man called DR OTIS DARKO. He is powerful he could help you cast a spells to bring back your love’s gone, misbehaving lover looking for some one to love you, bring back lost money and magic money spell or spell for a good job.i’m now happy & a living testimony because the man I had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down because our relationship has been on for 2 years… I really loved him, but his mother was against me and he had no good paying job. so when I met this spell caster, I told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him and at first I was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but I just gave it a try and in less than 2 days when I returned to MICHIGAN, my boyfriend (is now my husband ) he called me by himself and came to me apologize for everything and we had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married..I didn’t believe it because the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all I wanted him to do… well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid,and my husband also got a new job and our lives became much better. in case anyone needs the spell caster for some help, email address: otisdarko60@yahoo.com and he will help out...

    GREAT OTIS DARKO I thank you very much thank you in 1000000 times.. if not you I would have been losted and wasted thank you. Email Him Through his email address... otisdarko60@yahoo.com

    Please make sure you contact him for any financial difficulties okay or any kind of problem you are facing in life as this man is GODSENT into this world to help everyone solve their problems today in life..

    What a powerful man such as DR OTIS DARKO.. he is so much powerful..\\ email him for any difficulties.. otisdarko60@yahoo.com................... YOU CAN ALSO ADD HIM UP ON WHATSAPP USING THIS MOBILE NUMBER:+2348077526136

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  16. I just want to give a quick advise to any one out there that is having difficulty in his or her relationship to contact Dr.Agbazara because he is the only one that is capable to bring back broken relationship or broken marriages within time limit of 48 hours. You can contact Dr.Agbazara by calling him on his mobile +2348104102662 or write him through his email at ( agbazara@gmail.com )

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  17. I want to use this medium to thank Dr Osato for helping me to get my girlfriend back after she dumped me. My girlfriend breakup with me because i accuse her of cheating and told me she is no longer interested in me and live me in pain and heart break.I seek for help on the internet and i saw so many good testimonies about this great spell caster Dr Osato and i contacted on his email (relationshipspell@gmail.com) and explain my problems to him and he cast a love spell for me which i use to get back my girlfriend within the period of 2days and i am so grateful to him for the good work he has done for me,that is why i also want to let everyone who is in need of help out there to also seek help from him so he can help him/her .His email is relationshipspell@gmail.com or contact him on his website: http://relationshipspellhelp.webs.com You can contact for any kind of help and he will help you.

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  18. My name is Williams Lender i am very happy for the wonderful work dr Aziza has done for me i got married to my lovely husband last year and we have a lovely son. things was going well with us and we are living happily. until one day my husband started behaving in a strange manner i could not understand, i was very confused with the way he treat me and my son. later that month he did not come home again and he called me that he want a divorce, i asked him what have i done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying is that he want a divorce that he hate me and do not want to see me again in his life, i was sad and also frustrated i did not know what to do,i was sick for more than a week because of the divorce. i love him so much he his everything to me without him my life is incomplete. i told one of my child hood friend and she told me to contact a spell caster that she has listen to one woman who testify about dr Aziza and she has been hearing about him that i should try him i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing but i just say i should try if something will come out of it. i contacted Dr Aziza for the return of my husband to me, he told me that my husband have been taken by another woman. that she cast a spell on him that is why he hate me and also want to divorce me. then he told me that he has to cast a spell on him that will make him return to me and my son, he casters ted the spell and after a day my husband came back home and started apologizing he said that he love me so much that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that Dr Aziza casters ted on him that make him come back to me,right now am so happy again. thank you Dr Aziza for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for your great spell. this is to every one who is facing divorces or heart break by your lover i want you to contact him now because he can do it for you his powers is great and don't have any side effect in the future contact him through his mail;drazizaspelltemple85@gmail.com contact him now and your problems will be solve for ever.once again thanks to dr AZIZA.

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  19. My name is Amabel Robeson from USA My boyfriend and I were happy as far as I could tell and I never thought that we would break up. When his cousin died in a tragic car accident he went back to Russia for a week to be with his family. I could not go because I was in the middle of entertaining out of town clients for work. He did not seem to be upset that I could not go so I let him be. The next thing that I know, he reconnected with an old friend from high school that he had a crush on years ago and they started to have an affair! I had no clue what was going on until a month after he came back from Russia.He proceeded to see both her and I until I caught him testing her one night. I confronted him and he told me the truth about what happened. We broke up and went our separate ways. Neither of us fought for our relationship. I was angry and decided not to be upset about it and just keep it moving. Then after about a month of not speaking to him I became sad. I wanted him to tell me that he wanted to be with me and not her. I contacted Dr.Erigo for a love spell and he totally helped me! he was able to get him to miss me to where he wanted to get back together again. He had a lot of regrets and felt bad for not fighting to keep me and for cheating in general. He values our relationship so much more, now and we are together now! You can also get your lover back with the help of Dr. Erigo contact him through his email: erigospellcaster@gmail.com

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    1. My name is Jessie Bender from USA My boyfriend and I were happy as far as I could tell and I never thought that we would break up. When his cousin died in a tragic car accident he went back to Philippine for a week to be with his family. I could not go because I was in the middle of entertaining out of town clients for work. He did not seem to be upset that I could not go so I let him be. The next thing that I know, he reconnected with an old friend from high school that he had a crush on years ago and they started to have an affair! I had no clue what was going on until a month after he came back from Philippine.He proceeded to see both her and I until I caught him testing her one night. I confronted him and he told me the truth about what happened. We broke up and went our separate ways. Neither of us fought for our relationship. I was angry and decided not to be upset about it and just keep it moving. Then after about a month of not speaking to him I became sad. I wanted him to tell me that he wanted to be with me and not her. I contacted Dr .Ogala for a love spell and he totally helped me! he was able to get him to miss me to where he wanted to get back together again. He had a lot of regrets and felt bad for not fighting to keep me and for cheating in general. He values our relationship so much more now and we are together now! You can also get your lover back with the help of Dr. Ogala contact him through hise mail: Holyspellcast@yahoo.com.or holyspellcast@hotmail.com through his website:http://holyspellcast.wix.com/holyspellcast and you can also call him +2348039456308 THANKS..

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  20. Hello friends i am very happy for the wonderful work lord masuka whose email is lordmasukaspelltemple@hotmail.com has done for me i got married to my lovely husband last year February and we have a lovely son. things was going well with us and we were living happily, until one day my husband started behaving in a strange manner i could not understand, i was very confused with the way he treats me and my son. later that month he did not come home again and he called me that he want a divorce, i asked him what have i done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying is that he want a divorce that he hate me and do not want to see me again in his life, i was sad and also frustrated i did not know what to do,i was sick for more than a week because of the divorce. i love him so much he his everything to me without him my life is nothing. i told one of my child hood friend and she told me to contact a spell caster that she has listen to one woman who testify about lord masuka and she has been hearing about him that i should try him i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing but i just say i should try if something will come out of it. i contacted him for the return of my husband to me, he told me that my husband have been taken by another woman. that she cast a spell on him that is why he hate me and also want to divorce me. then he told me that has to cast a spell on him that will make him return to me and my son, he cast the spell and after 1 day my husband came back home and started apologizing he said that he love me so much that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that lord masuka cast on him that make him come back to me,right now am so happy again. thank you lord masuka for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for your great spell. this is to every one who is facing divorces or heart break by your lover i want you to contact him now because he can do it for you his powers is great and dont have any side effect in the future contact him through his Email: lordmasukaspelltemple@hotmail.com or lordmasukaspellhome711@gmail.com You can visit his website http://lordmasukalovespelltemple.webs.com for more details about him or call him +2347053105287. You can also add him on facebook Harry Masuka or Skype lord masuka. contact him now and your problems will be solve for ever.once again thanks to LORD MASUKA.

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  21. Hello! everyone out here,I am James William from Portland Oregon United state.It has been my desire to help people out with their problems no matter how little my contribution may be.

    As regards to the promise i made to BABA ARUOSA if he could help me get back my girlfriend,i'm using this means to fulfill my promise and also let everybody know there's solution to your problem no matter how difficult you think it is okay.

    I loved a girl for more than 2 years and she told me she was going to marry me.But she would change her mind and tell me she didn't love me anymore and was seeing a guy,which i found out.I begged her to accept me and also tried every means possible to make her know i can't live without her because i really love her but she would pay deaf ears to me.

    We were working in the same company and each time i see her,i wish all this weren't happening.This pain continued till a friend of mine led me to BABA ARUOSA whom he told me was very extremely powerful and has helped with a problem.

    Soon as i contacted him,i knew he was the exact answer to my solution because i felt his powers from his carefully selected words and calmness.I explain all that happened to me and he told me what to do.I did as i was instructed and never doubted him.To my greatest surprise what i felt was almost impossible within the twinkle of an eyes was over.

    She called me pleading for my forgiveness for how she has treated me and that she loves me so much and will never cheat on me again and will marry me.And from that moment till now all we've been experiencing is happiness in our relationship.We'll be getting married soon........lol

    I would advice anyone with problem to contact him via email : templeofsupernaturalcontact@gmail.com for his help.

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  22. Dr. Ogala is a trust worthy spell caster and he will be of great help to you. I never believed in spell casting but After 4 years of marriage my husband left me because I lost my womb, and i was unable to give birth to children. I felt like my life has come to an end, and i almost committed suicide, i was emotionally down for a very long time, but thanks to this spell caster called Dr. Ogala whom i met online after my friend Becky Ross told me how he also helped her to bring back her husband in less than 2 days. I believed her and decided to give Dr. Ogala a try and i contacted him on his email Holyspellcast@yahoo.com and explained my problems to him. He laughed and told me that In less than 2 days, my Husband will come back to me again, and that he will restore my womb and i will give birth to children. At first i thought it was a joke but i took courage and believed as Dr. Ogala has said and it did happen just as this Great spell caster said, My husband called me and was crying, begging for forgiveness. I forgive him and today i am so glad that all worries and problems has gone away, and we are even happier than before, another good news is that i am pregnant now, and very soon we will have our baby. Dr. Ogala is really a gifted and a powerful spiritual man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. I advice you all If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve all your problems just Contact Dr Ogala on his email on Holyspellcast@hotmail.com through his website:http://holyspellcast.wix.com/holyspellcast at anytime, because he will always help you to solve all problems. Once again thank you Dr.Ogala . Thank you, thank you.

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  23. Hello viewer's , i want to share with you of a great spell caster who help me cast a spell on my ex boy friend who used me and dumped me for my girl friend, so when i met this great spell caster called Dr Aza, i explain what i was passing through. So he gave me instruction to follow, which i did, after three day's when the spell was cast, my ex boy friend called and started apologizing to me and said he want me back.You can also contact him if you have any problem via email azaspellcaster@gmail.com you can call him or what,s App his number:+2348107155060, to help you with your problems. you can visit his website on drabaherbalhome.webs.com

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  24. I want the world to know a great man that is well known as DR Miracle,he has the perfect solution to relationship issues and marriage problems. The main reason why i went to DR Miracle. was for solution on how i can get my husband back because in recent times i have read some testimonies on the internet which some people has written about DR Miracle, and i was so pleased and i decided to seek for assistance from him on his Email ,,,,,,,(MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM),,, which he did a perfect job by casting a spell on my husband which made him to come back to me and beg for forgiveness.I will no stop publishing his name on the net because of the good work he is doing. I will drop his contact for the usefulness of those that needs his help.His Email is ,,,(MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM),,, or his web, http://miraclespellhome.wix.com/dr-miracles,,,, You can contact him today and get your problem solved,,,,,,

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  25. THANKS TO THE GREAT DR GODFATHER INDEED YOU ARE ABOVE TRUST AS THEY REALLY SAY, Am Collins Morgan from New York City, Am here to share an Amazing testimony about how Dr Godfather just recently helped me in Getting my wife back to me that was something that i couldn't imagine will be so easy I've known Sophia for years, When we finally got married,things were so weird so we broke up in February 2011.In June 2012, she and I recently got back together and we were together until march 2013 when she started with some strange behavior later on she wasn't sleeping home. so one day she went out and did not return and ever since she left i haven't set eyes on her ever again and she couldn't give birth ever since i got married to her. During that time my mind was completely at a state of unrest, I wasn't eating, neither was i sleeping,because i love her so much that am willing to do anything to make her happy and be with her forever undermining our situation, I cried,I was so depressed and stressed out and was almost frustrated and was even planning to end it all. so one day i came across an aid were Victoria pope was shearing her testimony how a great spell caster that is above trust called Dr Godfather helped him and i love and care about her deeply that i just want her to come back because heavens knows how much i love her so i contacted him reluctantly. I never used to believe in spell casting but i gave it a try and it was a positive result. Today we are happily married and blessed by his Amazing powers with two wonderful kids. To you all out there no matter what you facing similar to this this or not but just have this in mind that there is nothing imposable that Dr Godfather can not be made possible why because his Gifted. Once again thanks to My educated Dr Godfather with a Certificate Award. you can contact Dr. via his email address godfatherlovespelltemple@hotmail.com once again thank you Dr. Godfather for your Amazing Great Works.

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  26. I want the world to know a great man that is well known as DR Miracle,he has the perfect solution to relationship issues and marriage problems. The main reason why i went to DR Miracle. was for solution on how i can get my husband back because in recent times i have read some testimonies on the internet which some people has written about DR Miracle, and i was so pleased and i decided to seek for assistance from him on his Email ,,,,,,,(MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM),,, which he did a perfect job by casting a spell on my husband which made him to come back to me and beg for forgiveness.I will no stop publishing his name on the net because of the good work he is doing. I will drop his contact for the usefulness of those that needs his help.His Email is ,,,(MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM),,, or his web, http://miraclespellhome.wix.com/dr-miracles,,,, You can contact him today and get your problem solved,,,,,,

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  27. How I Got My Ex Husband Back........... I am Mikkelsen Nicole by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address papa_wordtemple@yahoo.com have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 2 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for Dr. PAPA . His email: papa_wordtemple@yahoo.com

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  28. My Name is CANDYCEE OBATAY from USA. I never believed in Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster called DR FRED.. The man i wanted to marry left me 3 months to our wedding ceremony and my life was upside down.he was with me for 4 years and i really love him so much..he left me for another woman with no reasons..when i called him, he never picked up my calls and he don't want to see me around him…so,when i told the man what happened. he helped me to do some readings,and after the readings he made me to realize that the other woman has done some spells over my Husband and that is the reason why he left me..he told me he will help me to cast a spell to bring him back. At first i was skeptical but i just gave it a try…In 4 days, My Husband called me himself and came to me apologizing..I cant believe he can ever come back to me again but now i am happy he's back and we are married now and we live as a happy family..Am posting this to the forum if anyone needs the help of this man.Can contact him through this email address : geniusspells@outlook.com or geniusspells@yahoo.com his number +18643962049 Website: http://geniusspells.webs.com/

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  29. WOW!! This is the most wonderful thing i have ever experience and i need to share this great testimony..I visited a forum here on the internet on the 8TH MATCH 2015, And i saw a marvelous testimony of this powerful and great spell caster called DR MARVEL on the forum..I never believed it, because i never heard nor learnt anything about magic before.. No body would have been able to convince me about magical spells, not until DR MARVEL did a marvelous work for me and restored my marriage of 6 years back to me and brought my spouse back to me in the same 24 hours just as i read on the internet..i was truly flabbergasted and shocked when my husband kneel down begging for forgiveness and for me to accept him back.. I am really short of words and joy, and i don't know how much to convey my appreciation to you DR MARVEL you are a God sent to me and my entire family.. And now i am a joyful woman once again.. here is his website: www.extremespellhome.webs.com And his email extremespellhome@hotmail.com. His telephone number +1 669 221 3962

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  30. WOW!! This is the most wonderful thing i have ever experience and i need to share this great testimony..I visited a forum here on the internet on the 8TH MATCH 2015, And i saw a marvelous testimony of this powerful and great spell caster called DR MARVEL on the forum..I never believed it, because i never heard nor learnt anything about magic before.. No body would have been able to convince me about magical spells, not until DR MARVEL did a marvelous work for me and restored my marriage of 6 years back to me and brought my spouse back to me in the same 24 hours just as i read on the internet..i was truly flabbergasted and shocked when my husband kneel down begging for forgiveness and for me to accept him back.. I am really short of words and joy, and i don't know how much to convey my appreciation to you DR MARVEL you are a God sent to me and my entire family.. And now i am a joyful woman once again.. here is his website: www.extremespellhome.webs.com And his email extremespellhome@hotmail.com. His telephone number +1 669 221 3962

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  31. My Wife divorce me for no reason, Thanks to Dr Otis Darko for bringing back my wife,and brought me great joy to my family once again, My name is JAMES OREMEN. i live in Italy, I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through several pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.(otisdarko60@yahoo.com}, So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the this GREAT SPELL CASTER WITH THIS EMAIL ADDRESS:otisdarko60@yahoo.com OR YOU CAN ALSO CALL HIM OR ADD HIM UP ON WHATSAPP USING THIS MOBILE NUMBER:+2348077526136 ,if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to Dr OTIS DARKO for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again. { otisdarko60@yahoo.com }, Thanks you Dr OTIS DARKO, i will always be testifying about your good work.

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  32. My name is Jessie Bender from USA My boyfriend and I were happy as far as I could tell and I never thought that we would break up. When his cousin died in a tragic car accident he went back to Philippine for a week to be with his family. I could not go because I was in the middle of entertaining out of town clients for work. He did not seem to be upset that I could not go so I let him be. The next thing that I know, he reconnected with an old friend from high school that he had a crush on years ago and they started to have an affair! I had no clue what was going on until a month after he came back from Philippine.He proceeded to see both her and I until I caught him testing her one night. I confronted him and he told me the truth about what happened. We broke up and went our separate ways. Neither of us fought for our relationship. I was angry and decided not to be upset about it and just keep it moving. Then after about a month of not speaking to him I became sad. I wanted him to tell me that he wanted to be with me and not her. I contacted Dr .Ogala for a love spell and he totally helped me! he was able to get him to miss me to where he wanted to get back together again. He had a lot of regrets and felt bad for not fighting to keep me and for cheating in general. He values our relationship so much more now and we are together now! You can also get your lover back with the help of Dr. Ogala contact him through hise mail: Holyspellcast@yahoo.com.or holyspellcast@hotmail.com through his website:http://holyspellcast.wix.com/holyspellcast and you can also call him +2348039456308 THANKS..

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  33. I just want to give a quick advise to any one out there that is having difficulty in his or her relationship to contact Dr.Agbazara because he is the only one that is capable to bring back broken relationship or broken marriages within time limit of 48 hours. You can contact Dr.Agbazara by calling him on his mobile +2348104102662 or write him through his email at ( agbazara@gmail.com )

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  34. I would like to advice any one out there who is experiencing love trauma , Financial difficulty, Child bearing , Miscarriages and so many more. All thanks to Dr. Madu for the good works he has been doing for my family and Friends, For I will always be grateful to Him for the his good works. He helped me with a spell that brought back my broken relationship and also i was able to have a baby after so many miscarriages. You could contact Dr. Madu to on his email: ( maduutemple @ gmail . com )or his Whatsapp : +234 8107 547 068 for his nice spell work.

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  35. Hello every body my name is Synder Anderson I just want to share my experience with the world on how Lord Alika help me, I got my love back and saved my marriage… I was married for 3 years with 1 kid and we lived happily until things started getting ugly and we had fights and argued almost e very time… it got worse at a point that he filed for divorce I tried my best to make him change his mind & stay with me because I love him so much and don’t want to lose him but everything just didn’t work out… he moved out of the house because it was a rented apartment and still went ahead to file for divorce… I pleaded and tried everything but still nothing worked. The breakthrough came when someone introduced me to this wonderful, great spell caster who eventually helped me out… I have never been a fan of things like this but just decided to try reluctantly because I was desperate and left with no choice… He did special prayers and used his power… Within 4 days my husband called me and he said he was sorry for all the emotional pains he had cost me, moved back to the house and we continue to live happily and our kid is happy too and we are expecting our second child… and my Husband also got a new job and our lives became much better web:http://lordalikaspelltemp8.wix.com/http I have introduced him to a lot of couples with problems across the world and they have had good news..contact him on lordalikaspelltemple@yahoo.co.uk or +13217666393. web:http://lordalikaspelltemp8.wix.com/http

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