SKILLS: Donald J. Trump "is smarter than we are?"

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20, 2024

Donald J. Trump versus Yale: Donald J. Trump is smarter than we are, Michael Moore has now said.

For ourselves, we can't swear that the Oscar-winning film-maker is wrong! Headline included, here's the start of Ron Dicker's report from HuffPost concerning what Moore has now said:

Michael Moore Says You'll Think He's Crazy For What He Thinks About Trump

Michael Moore dialed up the urgency of a possible Joe Biden defeat―and he did it by offering backhanded praise to Biden’s criminally indicted GOP adversary, Donald Trump.

“We don’t want to say this out loud, but I’m going to say it, and the reason why we need to be concerned is that Trump is smarter than us,” the Oscar-winning documentarian said on the latest episode of his “Rumble” podcast, which was released Sunday. “I’ll just let that sink in for a second. I know, I know, you’re calling the people to come to find me—the guys in the white uniforms with the big net—and take me away. Are you crazy? What do you mean he’s smarter than us?”

Moore noted there are also ways where Trump “is quite dumber than us” before providing clarity on his “smarter than us” point.

“I’m talking about the way throughout his entire life he’s been able to pull shit off and get away with it,” the “Bowling for Columbine” director said. “It is an amazing record...You must marvel at how somebody that stupid is that smart when it comes to the performance of his evil and his ability to never have to pay for it.”

Donald J. Trump is smarter than we are? For Mediaite's report about what Moore has now said, you can just click here

(Headline: Michael Moore Issues Dire Warning to Democrats: ‘Trump Is Smarter Than Us’)

Is Donald Trump smarter than our own blue team in some definable way? Almost surely, the answer is yes—and beyond that, he has a highly skilled red tribe propaganda apparatus working on his behalf. 

Our own blue tribal apparatus may not be as highly skilled! Consider some presentations we've seen, on various red and blue cable news programs, just since last Friday afternoon.

Last Friday afternoon and evening, we saw several of the dumbest journalistic conversations ever produced on the planet. We refer to the "Snakes on The Brain" pseudo-discussions which poured forth from carefully selected panels of flyweights on the Fox News Channel primetime programs, Gutfeld! and The Five.

A brief news report on the same topic had been delivered on Laura Ingraham's program, The Ingraham Angle. The background to the propagandization was this:

Uh-oh! An analysis piece had appeared in Science Reports, an obscure but respected journal, concerning a topic which would be unfamiliar to most Americans. ABC News then published a perfectly sensible account of the analysis piece. 

Possibly to a lesser degree, so did the Washington Post.

The report in the Post appeared under a "Climate Solutions" heading. Headline included, here's the possibly somewhat kitschy way the Post report started:

Want a more sustainable meat for the grill? Try a 13-foot python steak.

They’re scaly, fork-tongued and can measure upward of 20 feet long. Pythons may also be one of the most Earth-friendly meats to farm on the planet.

A group of researchers studied two large python species over 12 months on farms in Thailand and Vietnam—where snake meat is considered a delicacy—and found that they were more efficient to raise than other livestock.

Their research, published Thursday in the journal Scientific Reports, suggests that python farming could offer a solution to rising food insecurity around the globe, exacerbated by climate change.

The researchers, who studied more than 4,600 pythons, found that both Burmese and reticulated pythons grew rapidly in their first year of life, and they required less food (in terms of what’s known as feed conversion: the amount of feed to produce a pound of meat) than other farmed products, including chicken, beef, pork, salmon—and even crickets.

They're even better than crickets! So the Post report quickly said.

From its headline on down, the Post was possibly trying a bit too hard to make its report entertaining and fun. For better or worse, the report even included a mandated sub-heading, which went exactly like this:

Tastes like chicken

So the mandated sub-heading said.

That said, no one was suggesting that we Americans should think about throwing a python steak on the grill at our next July 4 celebration. That wasn't the point of any of this, until Fox News arrived on the scene.

As the Post's report quickly noted, the original piece in Scientific Reports cited the fact that python meat is already consumed on a regular basis in certain large parts of the world. The research paper in question had suggested that increased python farming might provide a valuable source of protein in such parts of the world as climate change puts additional stress on traditional sources of protein.

There was nothing stupid about the report. There was also nothing which suggested that it should be fare for the carefully-selected assortments of flyweights who populate Fox News panels on such propaganda-based programs as Gutfeld! and The Five.

Inevitably, messaging specialists at the channel seized upon the possibilities which were latent in the scientific report. On Friday's broadcast of The Five, here's the way the hapless Judge Jeanine Pirro teased an upcoming segment on this disturbing new report:

JUDGE JEANNINE (3/15/24): Coming up! Climate change fanatics now want you to eat snakes to save the planet.

For the record, there's absolutely nothing this resident loudmouth won't say. At any rate:

After a commercial break, the panelists generated one of the dumbest pseudo-conversations ever hatched on the planet. The panelists revised the scientific report to fit a standard template on this channel:

The elites are trying to make us regular people do the various crazy things they themselves will never do. 

Sadly, lone liberal Harold Ford was assigned the task of initiating the pseudo-discussion. Acting as moderator for the new segment, he started with this bit of prepared text:

FORD: Are you rattled by climate change? Well, how about a delicious snake for dinner?

The double entendre was excellent! At any rate, the baton was handed first to Greg Gutfeld. As part of a standard diatribe, the angry fellow said this:

GUTFELD: ...They act like, "Oh yeah, raising snakes is just like raising pigs." Have you ever seen a herd of snakes? Could you imagine being a snake farmer? 

This is the dumbest thing ever. Everything they do "better for the environment"—these are the same people who say it's better for the environment if you just die. 

They want you to be miserable. and it's the same pattern over and over again. They tell you that the world is on fire and their data is junk, then they demand that you do things they would never do to remedy it. So they tell you to eat insects, eat snakes...

To watch the entire segment, you can start by clicking here.

Back to Gutfeld! No one was telling the angry fellow that he had to, or should, eat snakes. Still, he knew the data in question was junk, and he knew what the researchers secretly had in their heads.

The angry fellow continued from there, but you're getting the general drift. We see no sign that Gutfeld had any idea what he was talking about, but he was producing perfect propaganda from a standard Fox News template in which the elites are hoping that regular red tribe people will be miserable, or that they'll simply die.

Things moved along from there, with one panelist stressing how "disgusting" the whole thing was and with Pete Hegseth—a Princeton grad with a Harvard master's degree—driving the points about the motives of the elites. By the time the conversation made its way back to Judge Jeanine, the resident loudmouth offered this:

JUDGE JEANNINE: Here's the bottom line. If they want us to eat snakes and bugs, make sure all of the politicians have to eat that stuff before we have to eat it.  And why are they so worried about sustaining the environment? First of all, we're not supposed to have hamburgers—do you remember that?—because of cow flatulence. Now they want us to eat snakes.

"Why are they so worried about sustaining the environment?" Yes, that's what she said.

For the record, no one was requiring, or was even suggesting, that salt of the earth people like Judge Jeannine should be forced to eat snakes. But at this point, the reference to flatulence took the conversation down one more level of the world, as the judge and Gutfeld debated the question as to whether snakes are able to "fart."

Back to Michael Moore's general point about Candidate Trump:

On the one hand, pseudo-discussions of this type are spectacularly stupid. On the other hand, such presentations, repeated on a daily basis, almost surely qualify as highly effective propaganda.

Red tribe viewers are told, again and again, about the way the elites are trying to make them do crazy things based upon junk data. Almost surely, very few viewers will understand that they are watching pseudo-conservations conducted by corporate hirelings who are pimping propaganda points off sheets of paper prepared for them by their tribal lords.

As with Michael Moore, so too here. These conversations are amazingly stupid from one perspective, but they're quite sagacious when viewed from a different perspective. Gutfeld is almost always the angriest and the most insistent propagandist. Here's the way his initial diatribe ended:

GUTFELD: Screw you! They're saying, "Let them eat cake, and you can eat snake." I'll eat pythons, but only if they get to eat these elite jackasses first. I like my snake meat extra fatty and filed with a plump Al Gore.

That evening, on his eponymous 10 o'clock show, Gutfeld led an even dumber "snakes on the brain" pseudo-discussion. He repeated his homicidal fantasy in which the Noble prize-winning Gore, apparently being too fat, is devoured by a python along with the other jackasses.

Conversations of this type take place on a daily basis. As red tribe voters are propagandized in such manifestly braindead ways, the loftier journalists within our own blue tribe agree to avert their gaze.

No one wants to tangle with Fox! Meanwhile, is it possible that our blue tribe is in the process of being defeated by gong-show propaganda of this type?

Those conversations were about as dumb as human intercourse gets. That said, we saw another very dumb conversation as we watched MSNBC last night.

That conversation involved Ali Velshi, subbing for Alex Wagner, and a very highly regarded professor from Yale. The professor in question is loaded with erudition, but he's also plainly lacking in certain basic analytical skills. 

Sacred Troy must die, Hector famously said, just before returning to war. Can our own blue tribe survive the skill levels which are currently on display among tribunes of the reds? 

Tomorrow: "Bloodbath" deciphered by Yale


77 comments:

  1. It’s a stupid, elitist idea to mock the idea about alleviating food insecurity. I doubt Gutfeld or the Judge experience that.

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    1. It's fairly consumeristic and first-world biased to assume that eating more bugs and snakes than we do now will resolve the issues of climate change emissions. There are cycles of biology replenishing that are being overloaded, too much fishing, too little wildlife from raising so much meat for fat human beings to eat. 800 thousand prison laborers working for your drive through burger to have substance.

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    2. prison laborers don't make burgers

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  2. "Donald J. Trump is smarter than we are?"

    Everyone is smarter than you are.

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    1. Now, now. Somerby is kinda smart, isn’t he? He went to Harvard.

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    2. Him going to Harvard just makes his obvious lack of knowledge and understanding all the more prominent, and curious.

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    3. He majored in the most useless field he could find. Then didn't do the work (read or study) and had to repeat multiple classes (by his own admission). Whatever he was doing at Harvard had nothing to do with learning.

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  3. “Is Donald Trump smarter than our own blue team in some definable way?”

    Moore clearly defined what he meant, if you believe evil is definable: “when it comes to the performance of his evil and his ability to never have to pay for it.”

    I doubt even Somerby recommends the blue tribe become smarter at getting away with evil and skipping out on bills.

    The legal system seems flawed somehow. I wouldn’t ascribe that to blue tribe failures, and it should be remembered that Somerby has denounced the various prosecutions of Trump, so it’s that attitude that lets Trump get away with it.

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    1. "Somerby has denounced the various prosecutions of Trump"

      You say this as if it were true.

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    2. Somerby has repeatedly chastised the blue tribe for going after Trump on legal grounds, insisting we are too punitive and that we should only rely on his misguided notions about electoral politics, in complete disregard that Trump has engaged in corruption and illegalities and is being held responsible not by the blue tribe but by our justice system.

      Somerby also insists that Trump is suffering from mental dementia, and alternatively is in some murky way "smarter" than the blue tribe. Those two ideas are not necessarily mutually exclusive but broadly speaking are, and just adds to Somerby's incoherence.

      If Trump is reelected, that does not point to him being "smart" or the blue tribe not being "smart", it points to a country filled with wounded lost souls, a product of our dog eat dog and precarious existence.

      Somerby is pernicious, his goal is to manufacture ignorance.

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    3. You said: "Somerby has denounced the various prosecutions of Trump." When challenged, you change the subject.

      You dodge the challenge by throwing up a host of other unsupported assertions about what Somerby has supposedly said.

      Can you stick to the point? When did Somerby denounce the various prosecutions of Trump, as you claim?

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    4. All of us who read this blog regularly saw Somerby complain about Trump's prosecutions. These calls for proof are a game being played by trolls. We go and find the quotes and then the trolls say the quotes don't say what we think. Meanwhile everyone has wasted a bunch of time. Somerby's feelings about Trump's prosecutions are obvious here. For example, he rants against the MSNBC focus on the legal current events, deriding it as Trump Trump Trump Jail. He has said Trump should be pitied, not prosecuted. He has said he doesn't want to see anyone go to jail. He was against the 1/6 Hearings because impeaching Trump might overrule the will of the voters.

      Today, Somerby's headline about Trump being smart is an obvious right wing talking point intended to combat the increasing evidence that Trump has dementia.

      You trolls can use a search engine as well as we can. Go look at what Somerby has said. Go back to where Somerby called Stormy Daniels a grifter and con artist, since that is the next trial likely to start. He spent weeks repeating Trump's lies about Daniels, refusing to consider her side of what happened between them. He said she extorted a payment for an NDA by approaching Trump, not vice versa, as evidence now shows.

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    5. You're not really mad at Bob for what he says, you're mad that he doesn't hold your opinion and you feel powerless to find an argument beyond stating your disagreement with him.

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    6. At 2:19, let’s be generous and pretend you just started reading Bob because you would seem to not know what you are talking about. I can’t think of a legal challenge to Trump Bob hasn’t tried his damnest to belittle. From the first Impeachment to the Jan 6 Committee( her Bob slunk off in shame, totally defeated by the facts) to his mantra of “the Dems seeks a legal solution to a political problem” etc. When caught dead to rights as in the documents case, Bob argues Trump should be let go because he believes what he is doing is legal. If not that, he chides that it only takes one juror to get him off (Bob discovers the legal system) or assumes a position of moral superiority since he doesn’t like seeing people go to jail (!). Trumps victims like Ruby Freeman? It’s in such bad taste to bring them up.
      So there you go for starters, check the archives.

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    7. OK, I’ve checked the archives - there’s not a single one in which Somerby denounced the various prosecutions of Trump. So, hopefully you’ll retract your statement.

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    8. Did you happen to find one where he said “Trump should be prosecuted” or “the prosecution of Trump is legitimate?” or “Trump’s attempts to overturn the election contained criminal behavior?” I mean, it’s a simple statement. Surely, it wouldn’t be difficult to say it. If he actually believed it, that is. Or cared.

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    9. Keep changing the subject. It’s what you do best.

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    10. Nope. Just asking. We know the answer. It remains true that he has criticized the prosecutions of Trump.

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    11. Again - changing the subject, which is “denouncing” prosecutions. It just ain’t there, but you keep falsely claiming it is.

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    12. Saying that "it just ain't there" doesn't make that true. We all have read what Somerby has said. Trying to gaslight readers here is not a viable strategy.

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    13. More chaff and misdirection. “Check the archives,” “We’ve all read it,” “You’re a troll,” “Somerby said a bunch of other stuff,” etc.

      Anything but a quote from Somerby clearly denouncing a Trump prosecution.

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  4. honestly, almost every poll i see has trump ahead, and especially those in battleground states. it is a very real possibility that trump is going to win.

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    1. No one has said otherwise, Captain Obvious.

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    2. like tyson said, the internet has gotten a lot of people used to mouthing off and not getting punched in the mouth. i see people all the time on the left (and even never trump republicans) saying there is no way that he can win, and as far as i can tell, he is winning. but you keep snarking along tough guy.

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    3. There are also idiots on the internet who say Trump can’t lose.

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    4. The *sort of* latent violent hostility in 12:21's comment makes them an interesting case study of typical right wing psychology.

      Here we see a tragic wounded soul lashing out when his feeling of dominance is challenged.

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    5. More recent polls are showing Biden ahead and trending up.

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    6. Biden may be losing his favorability advantage over Trump.

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    7. Biden hasn't had a favorability advantage over Trump. What matters is that more people are going to vote for Biden than for Trump.

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  5. Has Moore never heard the word “devious”? That’s what he’s describing in his attempt to pique and pique the interest of liberals.

    Frankly, the conversation about snakes on the plate via The Five was more skillful at that than Moore.

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    1. So, Moore is saying that Trump’s “deviousness” is rewarded. It’s just another way of saying his “evil.”

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    2. I liked his (as a producer) documentary about the "global warming" bullshit. Quite an unflattering portrayal of Bob's dear friend. Has he made anything after that?

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    3. I don't think that "devious" correctly describes Trump, as it suggests a level of intelligence and forethought that Trump does not possess and is not capable of. It's more like sixth sense: he knows how to keep at arms length from the gangsters with whom he associates and the plainly illegal behavior. That's one thing. The other is that he's like a maggot (or is it a MAGAt) feasting on the decaying flesh of American body-politic. He didn't create that festering infection. The credit probably goes to Reagan. However, Trump smells it and knows how to feast on it. I guess it's a form of intelligence.

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    4. Some of Moore's films are decent; he generally presents himself as a populist, he is fairly ignorant on what leftism is about.

      Although Moore is not an opportunist like some who pretend to be progressive or even liberal, but likely Cecelia is correct, Moore was attempting to generate interest in himself more so than saying anything particularly insightful.

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    5. Al Gore did An Inconvenient Truth (about global warming), not Michael Moore.

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    6. Moore produced a “documentary” called “Planet of the Humans” in 2020, which denounced green energy for being funded by corporations. It doesn’t exactly deny global warming, but it suggests the planet is overcrowded.

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  6. A determined sociopath is hard to stop anywhere in the world, unless he commits actual crimes. Even those crimes that Trump is charged with are left hanging because of a legal system designed to work better, via endless frivolous appeals and delays, for rich people.

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  7. There are two popular scenarios to explain the same facts:

    1. Trump has been charged with a bunch of crimes. He's a crook. Trump must lose in order to save democracy.

    2. Trump has been charged with a bunch of crimes. These bogus charges are an abuse of the legal system by Democrats. Trump must win in order to save democracy..

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    1. But why does your first scenario involve saving democracy? There's nothing extraordinary in it: every politician is a crook.

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    2. Dic is ignoring the real threat that Trump poses.

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    3. 3. Trump has been conning and grifting for decades and should've been charged years ago. Refer to the NY Times exhaustive study of how much money had been funneled to Trump by his father. So, yes, the fact that his new notoriety put him in the legal crosshair is suspect, even though richly deserved. That's the conundrum.
      It's like the movie No Way Out with Kevin Kostner. On the one hand, the cases against Trump are unsettling in their timing; on the other hand, they are absolutely correct: he's a crook.

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    4. Point taken Ilya, but the timing is not as suspect and unsettling as you suggest, as it is more the result of access to evidence not previously known or available, as well as newer prosecutors with more integrity than previous ones. Furthermore several of the indictments are of crimes Trump committed recently.

      Point taken, but not well taken.

      DIC is a moron, no one seriously thinks democracy is so delicate that Trump is determinative, either way.

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    5. @1:43 You might try using a search engine to find out what people on both sides are saying.

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    6. Certainly January 6th prosecution in GA is something new. The civil penalties in NY are well-deserved but should've been prosecuted years ago. The hush money case...well, I'd let that one go.

      David: People on both sides? You mean the side that thinks that the election was stolen?

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    7. Ilya -- There is no evidence of fraud large enough to have turned the 2000 election. OTOH if there was major fraud, it's not clear that this fraud could or would have been discovered after the fact.

      IMO it's more likely that the election wasn't stolen, but nobody should feel totally confident in their opinion.

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    8. Borrowing Somerby's stance of being unable to say completely that something true is true, makes you sound like a huge idiot, David. If someone followed Somerby's reasoning they would be immobilized and could take no action. They couldn't go to the store for a carton of milk because they couldn't say for sure whether the market would have any available or whether the price would not have increased to the point that you couldn't pay for it, or whether the milk would be fresh or sour, or whether you might be accosted by a mugger on the way (or back), or whether your might have a heart attack in the store, etc etc. You see the difficulty?

      Elections were fair. They decided the election in Biden's favor (assuming you meant 2020 not 2000) and our government has proceeded from that fact. Nothing is gained by your uncertainty except to make you sound extremely foolish, just like Somerby does when he makes such claims.

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    9. ...if there was major fraud, it's not clear that this fraud could or would have been discovered after the fact.

      David consulted Professor Otto Yerass.

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    10. “ it's more likely that the election wasn't stolen, but nobody should feel totally confident in their opinion.” You have now committed treason against Donald Trump and his US of A.

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  8. Quaker in a BasementMarch 20, 2024 at 12:57 PM

    Was the snake debate a gratuitous exercise in liberal-bashing? Could be! But Our Host should remember: "Millions of people believe it!" and yet Our Blue Tribe can't find a way to dissuade them!

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    1. QiB - "Millions of people believe it!" and yet Our Blue Tribe can't find a way to dissuade them!"

      That seems to me to be Somerby's point. So, I don't quite understand what you mean when you say Somerby should "remember" the very point he's making.

      I think Somerby's post is an important one. Fox consistently expresses its populist propaganda message: "Elites are trying to make regular folks do crazy shit." Every stupid thing that comes up on a daily basis is made an example of Fox's propaganda message. It doesn't matter whether the example (like snake meat) makes any sense at all, because tomorrow there will be another stupid example that doesn't make sense either. The examples will be quickly forgotten, but the propaganda message will remain in people's heads. And that's what our Blue Tribe cannot figure out how to combat.

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    2. You keep saying our blue tribe cannot combat red idiocies, but there are many more blue voters than red ones, and every single one of our blue voters is someone who has rejected the nonsense on the right. We successfully combatted Trump in 2020 and trends suggest we are doing it this time too. Substantial numbers of Republicans are refusing to vote for Trump already, and that will increase as his legal troubles penetrate the fog in some Republicans' heads.

      Expecting an all-or-nothing victory over Trump is unrealistic. Many are still supporting him because he enables their own grifting. But we are successfully combatting his campaign and that is all we need to do -- not convince every last Republican to abandon Trump.

      Somerby loves to pose strawmen. Today's is that if we cannot convince all Republicans we cannot combat Trump at all. I get so tired of Somerby trying to portray us as worthless pieces of shit because somewhere in TX or the South Republicans still believe in Dear Leader.

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    3. It is not that the blue tribe can not figure out how to combat it; persuasion plays no significant role in contemporary electoral politics.

      Psychologists, including former Somerby fav Dr Lee and other behavioral scientists, say that right wingers are stuck in survivor mode, scans show that their brains are different (considered not genetic but emergent), so under certain circumstances they have a diminished capability to reason rationally. The right wing condition emerged when we transitioned to societies based on surplus and commodification, which led to obsessions with hierarchy and dominance.

      Contemporary politics is mostly about motivation, motivating a cohort to actually vote. This is why Republicans work so hard to appeal to emotions, to gerrymander, to suppress blue tribe votes.

      Somerby's points are unsubstantiated and inaccurate, his posts are ineffective at advancing the interests of the blue tribe; all the blue tribers here are critical of Somerby and his only fans are right wingers, which further speaks to both his impact and motive.

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    4. Saying "you have to turn out your base" implies you already did some persuading of a base. You're still persuading people with an agenda, fund-raisers, and tactics, what an idiotic and defeatist way to approach politics to tell people to just fall in line. If you say that to people you're telling them to give up individuality.

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    5. Turn out the base doesn't mean you have identified who those people are. It means you put your message out and the people who respond to it go to the polls and vote your way. Fund-raisers are to get money from people who self-identify as supporters. You send out a lot of emails or texts and the people who want to give you cash respond to them. It has nothing to do with persuasion of anyone.

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    6. 7:06

      Somebody is persusaded to write the questions for the polling of issues.
      Someone is persuaded to write the headlines.
      Someone is persuaded to dedicate a day to meeting with a donor instead of talking to voters.
      Someone is persuaded by the speechwriter of the candidate.

      Your analysis is very limited if you think the general public shouldn't be involved in these questions of persuasion, and just should "turn out" like a trick for a pimp.

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  9. This is what we're reduced to. Ridiculous click-bait headlines that often mask and obscure the topic being discussed, then we mock while mischaracterizing that already often misleading headline, then we get blogger reactions to that and finally we are free to comment on the whole mess.

    Reminds me of Reddit where someone posts an article, top comment hasn't even read the article and bases itself off the often misleading headline. Then we get an argument develop with the top inane response to the top dumb comment and voila!

    Well! Certainly participation and click through numbers are there keeping the advertisers happy and making participants think they engaged in something but it's all a pale charade for intelligent discourse.

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  10. When Hillary Clinton beat Moore’s candidate for the Dem nomination he declared her a lousy candidate, said we must all rally around her. Then he went off and made a film of a one man show (with plenty of common man Trump justification included) that nobody saw. When Biden beat his man for the Dem nomination, he looked around and in a supremely Trump like moment of sore loserism, he blamed..Hillary Clinton.
    Nobody much cares what Moore thinks anymore, or goes to his now unfunny films, yet the corporate liberal state will always wheel him on to split things down the middle.
    Biden’s successful Presidency in the face of the worst odds drives bitter progressives like Moore nuts. Honest people face facts: however sincere rich white progressives like Moore are(and there is reasonable room for doubt), as often as not they end up serving the Right.
    Moore whole philosophy is that the rich get away with murder because their money gives them unearned, unchecked power. Yet somehow Trump baffles him and he has to admire him even more than Bob does.

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    1. Agree, well said.

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    2. This is a brilliant, brilliant comment. Thank you.

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    3. Rather than address the content of Moore's comment, @2:02's comment is a mere ad homonym. It would be more valuable to provide facts indicating that Trumps is or isn't smart.

      This is a tactic for which conservatives criticize liberals. Conservatives say liberals want to shut down critics who disagree with them so they don't want to respond to the critic's points.

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    4. Ad homonym. I like that.

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    5. David doesn't know what ad hominem means.

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  11. "Donald J. Trump versus Yale: Donald J. Trump is smarter than we are, Michael Moore has now said.

    For ourselves, we can't swear that the Oscar-winning film-maker is wrong!"

    Donald Trump has been described as one of the most deeply ignorant and stupid men on the planet -- by those who have worked closely with him.

    Now Trump has dementia and cannot think or talk straight and yet Michael Moore is calling him smart to attract attention. I think that makes Michael Moore look like a moron. And clearly he doesn't care whether he boosts Trump, as long as he gets to say something controversial to advance his own interests.

    Shall we all now call Al Capone smart because he was able to murder 29 people without being tried for it? Was Bernie Madoff smart too, because he stole so much money and managed not to get lynched? Shall we call Hitler smart because even school children are still taught his name?

    I'll be Michael Moore admires George Santos too. Look how smart he was! He got elected to congress with no qualifications whatsoever, laughing all the way.

    I am wondering why Moore's parents never taught him that criminals are not smart, they are bad people who hurt others.

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  12. "As red tribe voters are propagandized in such manifestly braindead ways, the loftier journalists within our own blue tribe agree to avert their gaze."

    The loftier journalists within our own blue tribe DID NOT avert their gaze. They wrote the original scientific article in the first place, and they said nothing about requiring anyone to eat snakes.

    There is rational journalism freely available for anyone who wants to read it. But blue journalists cannot require Pirro and Gutfeld to tell the truth about what so-called blue journalism is saying. Liars gotta lie.

    It would be helpful if Somerby would point out the lies without constantly telling his readers that the blue tribe does nothing to fight back. We are the ones putting the truth out there in the first place.

    As Mulder always said, "The truth is out there..." but red tribe members have to make the effort to read it.

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  13. There is some irony that the commenters who hang around here in order to correct the untruths being spread by conservative trolls are routinely maligned by Somerby's fanboys, when the blue commenters are just trying to do what Somerby tells us to -- correct the lies spread by the right. We fight back and yet we are reviled by Cecelia, Dogface, Pied, AC/MA and the rest of Somerby's right wing assholes, and that is exactly what would happen if anyone tried to fight back against Gutfeld. Know-nothings are called that because they don't want to hear or know the truth about anything, so telling the blue media to contradict Fox News isn't going to help anything. Anyone on the right can use Google as well as any of us here, but they don't want to know what is accurate on any topic. They want to laugh at the libs.

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    1. Anonymouse 2:20pm, just who is reviling who via your spiel? Why do you persist in suggesting that liberals who find Bob thoughtful are actually conservatives?

      People don’t take you seriously because you’re here to revile all contrarians and to call Somerby a phony no matter what he says.

      Reviling every utterance from anyone not in your coven is your Job #1.

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    2. Liberals don't find Somerby thoughtful. They see through him.

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    3. Anonymouse 7:02pm, Exhibit A.

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    4. Cecelia just can’t handle Somerby being criticized. She is livid and having conniption fits. why don’t they like him???

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    5. Anonymouse 8:39pm, there you go again… reviling the blogger and anyone who enjoys his blog.

      You can’t stop. It’s the only way you can pay your electricity bill.

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    6. We all use solar over here on the left.

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    7. No, Cecelia. I was talking about you specifically, not “anyone who enjoys the blog.”

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    8. Anonymouse 7:25am, so you needed a broom. You work hard for a living.

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    9. I’m consulting my lawyer about suing you for defamation. I am not “right-wing.”

      On the left, there’s the liberal left and the illiberal left. I’m a liberal. You’re the latter.

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  14. Don't for get to mention how trump stole his Niece's inheritance.

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