OFFENSES: We pity the fool who tries to get clear...

THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2024

...on the offense with which Trump stands charged: We've found ourselves thinking about Mr. T as we've continued to read about Donald J. Trump's Gotham trial.

"I pity the fool," Mr. T once said. In fact, he has said it quite a few times:

Mr. T

Mr. T (born Laurence Tureaud; May 21, 1952) is an American actor. He is known for his roles as B. A. Baracus in the 1980s television series The A-Team and as boxer Clubber Lang in the 1982 film Rocky III. 

He is also known for his distinctive hairstyle inspired by Mandinka warriors in West Africa, his copious gold jewelry, his tough-guy persona and his catchphrase "I pity the fool!", first uttered as Clubber Lang in Rocky III, then turned into a trademark used in slogans or titles...

He said it first in Rocky III! 

We ourselves have never seen Rocky III, but we've been thinking about Mr. T's trademark catchphrase as we've continued to read about Trump's alleged offenses, whatever they may turn to (allegedly) be.

With what criminal offense or offenses does Donald J. Trump stand charged? We pity the fool who turns to the mainstream press corps in an attempt to find out! 

More specifically, we pity the fool who tries to find a coherent description of the felonies with which the defendant stands charged. On cable TV, they discuss the topic all day and all night. But has anyone made that point clear?

With what criminal offenses does Trump stand charged? In this recent brief post at the New York Times, Jonathan Alter—like many others—got us partway there:

On Monday, we finally got closer to a key factor in this case: campaign finance law. To convict Donald Trump of a felony, the jury must find that he falsified business records (or directed that they be falsified) with “the intent to commit another crime.” Trump need not be found guilty of any of those other crimes—in this case, it could be tax fraud, intervening in an election or violating campaign finance laws—in order to convict him. But he needs to have crime in mind in at least one of those areas.

Alter is a good, decent person. He's also a highly experienced, thoroughly competent journalist. 

That said, many journalists have explained the part of the criminal charge against Donald J. Trump which we've placed in bold type. In Alter's shorthand rendering, it goes exactly like this:

To convict Donald Trump of a felony, the jury must find that he falsified business records (or directed that they be falsified) with “the intent to commit another crime.” 

In his brief post, Alter doesn't say who he's quoting when he offers that brief quotation. That said, journalists have largely agreed on this general formulation, which we assume is basically accurate:

In charging Trump with 34 felonies, prosecutors are alleging [1] that he falsified business records [2] with the intent to commit [or perhaps to conceal] some additional crime.

So far, so pretty much clear! But what is the "additional crime" the defendant is charged with attempting to commit or conceal? Just what is the additional crime on the basis of which the defendant stands charged with almost three dozen felonies?

It's at this point that we start to pity the fool! We pity the fool who believes that question can be answered within our broken and highly incompetent American public discourse.

For today, let's follow the sage advice of the late Langston Hughe. For today, with a holiday weekend approaching, let's agree to keep it simple. 

At this point, a brief aside:

Long ago and far away, Hughes created a long-forgotten character, Jesse B. Semple. To this very day, Macmillan Publishers offers this overview of the highly meritorious labor Hughes performed in this field:

The Best of Simple

Stories
Author: Langston Hughes

Langston Hughes's stories about Jesse B. Semple—first composed for a weekly column in the Chicago Defender and then collected in Simple Speaks His Mind, Simple Takes a Wife, and Simple Stakes a Claim—have been read and loved by hundreds of thousands of readers. In The Best of Simple, the author picked his favorites from these earlier volumes, stories that not only have proved popular but are now part of a great and growing literary tradition.

In an earlier, profoundly challenging time, Hughes was trying to keep it simple. ("Simplify, simplify," Thoreau once implored, though he was speaking about something different in a quite different context.)

For the record, we offer these brief asides because the poverty of our national discourse (Plato: "The wickedness of the times") makes it essential to take flight, if only on the brief occasion, in search of a richer realm.

Keeping it simple for today, let's think about what Alter has said—accurately, we feel fairly sure—in the passage we've posted:

According to Alter, Trump stands charged with falsifying business records, or with causing such records to be falsified. That said, he also stands charged with this:

The defendant also stands charged with trying to commit or conceal some additional crime. It's at this point that we start to pity the fool.

Please note what Alter has said. We think he's said those things accurately: 

For starters, he says that Trump doesn't have to be convicted of committing some additional / other crime. He says it merely has to be shown that Trump "had [some additional crime] in mind."

(That may not be as strange as it may seem at first blush. In a partial analogy, if a person attempts to rob a bank, he can of course be charged with a crime even if he doesn't succeed in his attempt.)

According to Alter, it doesn't have to be shown that the Trump committed some additional crime. That said, also this:

Alter lists three (3) possible crimes which could qualify as the additional crime. "In this case, it could be tax fraud, intervening in an election or violating campaign finance laws," we're told.

(Question: In what way would "intervening in an election" qualify as a crime? Like many others, Alter fails to explain that highly significant point in his brief account.)

At any rate, Alter lists three possible crimes which could qualify as the additional crime. Has Trump been charged with seeking to commit all three—rather, with having all three "in mind?" 

We'd have to say that that's a second place where Alter's (brief) account may seem a bit unclear.

By now, you'd think that everyone in the world would know exactly what Trump has been charged with. By now, you'd think that basic point would be transplendently clear.

Alter's (brief) formulation may leave an area of confusion or doubt. Once again, here's what he wrote:

Trump need not be found guilty of any of those other crimes—in this case, it could be tax fraud, intervening in an election or violating campaign finance laws—in order to convict him. But he needs to have crime in mind in at least one of those areas.

Is Trump charged with having all three crimes in mind? If the jury finds that he had just one of those crimes in mind, does that mean, under the law, that he has committed a felony?

At this point, we pity the fool who thinks he can find such questions answered within our journalistic discourse. On cable, they chatter about this topic all day and all night, but some things remain wholly unclear.

Alas! Our journalism has been a comical mess for more than three decades now. That said, what happens in the mainstream press corps very much stays in the mainstream press corps, so it's very hard to find anyone actively noting such facts.

The defendant's trial is nearing its end. The jury will be at the beach this weekend. but they will likely reach a verdict next week.

By now, you'd think that everyone would be able to describe the 34 felonious offenses with which Trump stands charged. That said, we pity the fool who turns to the mainstream press in hopes of some such explanation. 

There are criminal offenses within our culture, but there are the occasional journalistic offenses too. On cable, they talk about this topic all day—but have you ever seen the most obvious questions answered concerning the nature of the offense with which the defendant stands charged?

For today, we're going to try to keep it simple:

Most simply put, we humans are good at building tall buildings (and the like), less skilled at everything else.

Tomorrow: In Blue America, the Post and the Times attempt to explain. 

In Red America, what millions of voters are persistently told, possibly somewhat correctly.

82 comments:

  1. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/dorothy-jean-tillman-chicago.html

    For David in Cal who thinks there are no smart black children and that it is a mistake to let them try out for special science high school seats because they will just fail and be discouraged.

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    1. Thanks for the link. My cousin Lizzy is pretty brilliant too.

      BTW since you’re interested in brilliant blacks, you should start reading Thomas Sowell’s books.

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    2. No thank you. But I have read McWhorter. My opinion is that he never should have let his views be co-opted by conservatives.

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    3. "you should start reading Thomas Sowell’s books."

      Nature vs. Nurture"
      Was DiC always an ignorant fool, or did reading Thomas Sowell make him an ignorant fool?

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    4. Thomas Sowell is not just a bad economist, he is also a bad thinker in general, and a victim of a pernicious form of racism called tokenism.

      There is a ton of content in media exposing Sowell's dumb takes.

      DIC, "Lizzy" is not your cousin, this is one of your stranger lies.

      You seem to take pride in your ignorance and racism, this is also strange, but understandable, as you are clearly a suffering, wounded, lost soul.

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    5. What do Thomas Sowell and John McWhorter have to do with inadequate journalistic explanations of Trump's criminal charges?

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    6. Anonymices 10:43am, perhaps elite high schools could save a lot of time by merely asking kids about their feelings on the politics of race when screening for elite schools. That way the schools could weed out any black students who are victims of tokenistic thinking.

      These schools may admit black students who don’t meet all the academic standards that other applicants meet, but at least they aren’t victims of tokenism.

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    7. Cecelia, are you insinuating that 17-year-old PhD is a token?

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    8. Nope. Tillman is a prodigy who was acing high school courses at age 8.

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  2. "With what criminal offense or offenses does Donald J. Trump stand charged? We pity the fool who turns to the mainstream press corps in an attempt to find out!"

    We pity the fool who believes Somerby when he says the press hasn't repeatedly explain all this. We pity the fool who cannot use Google to find answers to such questions, including Somerby.

    Somerby used to teach school, back before Al Gore invented the internet. Perhaps that is why he doesn't know how to fact-check himself before posting. Teachers shouldn't be foisting ignorance onto their readers like this.

    I pity the foolish Republicans who not only believe but repeat right wing talking points so outrageous only someone from outer space would consider them, such as that Biden sent the FBI to kill Trump at Mar a Lago (even though Trump was 1000 miles away in New Jersey during the raid to retrieve all those stolen classified documents he had no business storing in his bathrooms).

    I pity the Republican fools who believe Trump won't try to restrict contraception (birth control) even though he has supported every single measure to do so, as president last time. No more IVF if Trump and his Christian Nationist buddies are elected. Women will be expected only to have lots of babies for the Fatherland (that Unified Reich Trump has been talking about in videos). White supremacist babies, since all immigrants (legal or not) will have been rounded up and deported -- 15 million of them Trump says.

    All those pitiful Republicans need to pay attention to what Trump is trying to talk about at his rallies or we will all be in deep shit.

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  3. This is a media criticism site.
    Bob knows perfectly well what the charges against Trump are, but he's not going to explain them because HE is not in the media.
    It's the same reason Bob criticizes the media for not explaining how economics works, and why so many Right-wingers don't understand how that works either.
    Sure, he could criticize the media for white-washing Republican fascism, too, but there is only so much time in the day.

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    1. What Bob is saying is, if the media would just explain that the Right are nothing but a shit pile of bigots, we could save ourselves a lot of time by not listening to them.
      Let the Somerby-haters come after me. I can take it.

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    2. What Bob is explicitly saying is that the blue tribe primarily engages in performative virtue signaling and as a result their media is often wrong while the red tribe media often is correct and makes good points.

      Unfortunately, Bob provides scant credible evidence for his lunatic hypothesis, and is thusly exposed daily for his nonsense.

      No one here hates Somerby, other than maybe himself, he seems very bitter, which has led him to express his nonsense, so comments that correct him on his mistaken views are essentially acts of love and caring.

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    3. Meanwhile, Somerby engages in performative virtue-signaling on his blog daily.

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  4. Interesting. Stalin's show trials relied on confessions. This one is relying on mindreading.

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    1. Bob's criticism of the media and the prosecutors is based on mis-reading.

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    2. 10:26 intent is a fairly common and routine criterion in court cases, you seem to be a very confused person.

      Stalin was an authoritarian that ruled over an economic system based on state capitalism. Stalin used coercion to get what he wanted, which was primarily personal enrichment, in this way he trail-blazed for future corrupt people like Trump and other right wingers with fascistic leanings.

      It is true that American police will coerce confessions out of innocent people, so one could make a point there, but your point is just ridiculous.

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    3. Personal enrichment? Stalin? He did a lot of bad things, but he didn't enrich himself. He was trying to build the best economic and social system. He wrongly thought that his methods could achieve that noble end, that they were necessary and just.

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    4. “intent is a fairly common and routine criterion in court cases”

      In the way it’s being used in this case?

      If Trump was stopped on his way to a bank for intending to rob the bank, an ‘intent’ charge would make sense since the police prevented him from actually committing the crime.

      But in the hush money case, Trump did everything he set out to do. He paid off Daniels, and he made the entries on his ledger. That’s why it doesn’t seem right to charge him with intending to commit a crime. The payment to Daniels either was a crime or it wasn't.

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    5. @1:38 PM
      It's not even enough to prove that it was a crime. You'd need to prove that Mr Trump knew it was a crime. Because he could, for example, feel that the nda was an embarrassment (but not a crime), and record the reimbursement as a "legal fee" (even assuming that counts as a "falsification").

      It's all bullshit and mindreading.

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    6. I love seeing the flop sweat pouring off you maggots. Keep 'em coming. LOL

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    7. Good substantive critique. You gained a lot of converts to your point of view.

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    8. Maybe converts are not the goal.

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    9. It was not meant to be a critique, maggot. However it was a completely honest comment, straight from the heart. Which is more than I can so for most of the bullshit all you pretend legal eagle maggots litter this comment board with.

      I am not a lawyer. I am however confident that Trump has the best legal representation money can buy. I do know and understand that falsification of business records is a crime and bread and butter for New York City prosecutions, so I don't really understand what the fuck you maggots are whining about.

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    10. You're as witty as you are persuasive.

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  5. "Jews will not replace us" is the Right-wing version of "From the River to the Sea".

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    1. Look at how differently liberals and conservatives deal with antisemitism today. @10:13 mentions a disgusting statement that was chanted by 100 conservatives 7 years ago. Today, thousands of liberals are chanting antisemitic statements every day.

      Also, antisemitic conservatives, like the ones who met at Charlottesville, are considered persona non grata. They are unacceptable to ordinary conservatives. OTOH Rashida Tlaib, who has said equally objectionable things, is a respected Democratic Congresswoman. And, Al Sharpton, who not only made antisemitic slurs, but actually helped inflame a mob to murder a Jew, is a respected senior member of the liberal establishment.

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    2. This is a perfect example of what a lying sack of shit you are, David. You keep repeating that LIE about Sharpton. You have been corrected on the facts, you ignore, and then you come back and repeat the same fucking LIE again. You have no credibility.

      And fuck off. Persona non grata my ass. They form the core of Trump's base.

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    3. Hey David. What did Trump mean by "unified Reich"? Any thoughts on that, fuckface?

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    4. 1:17 - I feel like it means that Trump is a Nazi - and he reposted the video as a message to his supporters of his intent to kill all Jews - and as a way to attract new supporters to his Nazi regime which will overtake the world and begin to build concentration camps and kill Jews and homosexuals en masse, weeks after he is reelected, if he is reelected.

      Therefore, since his motives are so clear and obvious and out in the open, and since this is such a scary, scary proposition, we must vote I guess for Joe Biden.

      After all, what else could he have meant by that?

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    5. After all, what else could he have meant by that?

      There were good people - on both sides.

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  6. Both sides have rested their cases and when the trial resumes the judge will issue instructions and put the case in the hands of the jury. Somerby's complaints are too late. The public will then have the choice of supporting the rule of law or setting it aside in favor of personal opinion. This applies equally to both sides. We can be a nation of laws or a nation of vigilantes.

    Somerby attempts to foster outrage on the right are unfortunate for our country. It surprises me to hear a former teacher undermine our nation's institutions (in this case both the press and the courts) but he has been doing this since 2015. Presumably he's seen the result of such efforts but that hasn't deterred him from continuing this irresponsible attack in which he implies that Trump is undergoing partisan political prosecution when his crimes are manifest and so is the law under which he has been charged. Shame on you, Somerby.

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    1. Critiquing institutions can strengthen them.

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  7. Kevin says the press can’t tell what the other crime is, because the prosecution hasn’t said what it is.

    https://jabberwocking.com/what-is-donald-trumps-other-crime/

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    1. From things I've read, the Prosecution may not have to say what the other crime is. They can list several potentials and let each juror decide which one s/he considers to be other crime. The jury can find Trump guilty without specifying or agreeing on which other crime he's guilty of.

      This sounds Kafkaesque, of course. But, let's see what the judge says to the jury.

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    2. Hey David. What did Trump mean by "unified Reich"? Any thoughts on that, fuckface?

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    3. @DiC: Clearly, I haven't read the things you're citing. In my opinion, if the prosecution fails to name the second crime, Trump will either be judged guilty of a misdemeanor or acquitted altogether.

      If the "second crime" is not specified and Trump is convicted, that will be a surprising result and the howling will be heard from here to Mars.

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  8. Dorothy Jean Tillman II, seventeen years old, has earned her doctorate in integrated behavioral health from Arizona State University.

    https://www.complex.com/life/a/alex-ocho/17-year-old-dorothy-jean-tillman-ii-youngest-doctorate

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  9. Patrick Mahomes came close to calling Harrison Butker a good decent person:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/22/patrick-mahomes-doesnt-agree-with-harrison-butker-but-says-kicker-is-a-great-person

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    1. In fact, Butker's statement was not objectionable. He said careers for women were fine. He said that most of the women he was speaking to would find greater fulfillment in their roles as wife and mother.

      First of all, that may be true. Second, it's not objectionable. It's certainly the case that some women will find more fulfillment in a career; and some will find more fulfillment as a homemaker. At worst, Butker got the percentages wrong.

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    2. Here's the full text of Butker's speech:

      https://www.ncregister.com/news/harrison-butker-speech-at-benedictine

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    3. Butker spoke about many things besides careers for women. I hope both David and Cecelia will read the whole thing.

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    4. Some women do both, not either/or.

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    5. Butker is being criticized for the awkward way he put it, but he was correct. Businesses don't pay nearly enough for Fathers to raise a family on one salary.

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  10. David, did you see the comment at 12:08PM? You could point to young Dr Tillman as a good example.

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    1. The very first comment here linked to article about Dorothy Tillman. I responded there.

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    2. Oh, I didn’t see that. 10:08AM is pretty stupid.

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    3. Hey David. What did Trump mean by "unified Reich"?
      What's the matter, cat got your tongue?

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    4. Thanks @2:44. I think some commenters call me a racist because I'm wiling to write openly about areas where blacks lag other races, on average, such as education. My understanding is that being woke requires that one not mention such things, because that would encourage racism.

      I'm not sure whether or not that's a good idea. It's probably true that not mentioning and not reporting things like the high crime rate does help to reduce racism. OTOH not being realistic leads to solutions that don't work. E.g., despite spending trillions of dollars, the War on Poverty has not really been a success.

      Also, ignoring academic differences by race has led to big reductions in standards. E.g.,

      A Failed Medical School': How Racial Preferences, Supposedly Outlawed in California, Have Persisted at UCLA
      Up to half of UCLA medical students now fail basic tests of medical competence. Whistleblowers say affirmative action, illegal in California since 1996, is to blame.

      https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-failed-medical-school-how-racial-preferences-supposedly-outlawed-in-california-have-persisted-at-ucla/

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    5. If I were involved in Trump's campaign, I'd spell it Rike.

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    6. "not being realistic leads to solutions that don't work."

      Look who's talking.

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    7. I hope Dr Tillman inspires millions of young people.

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    8. Quaker in a BasementMay 23, 2024 at 6:19 PM

      @DiC:
      "My understanding is that being woke requires that one not mention such things, because that would encourage racism."

      I am dismayed to tell you that "your understanding" errs once again. The difference in average test scores among students of various ethnicities is not only well-documented, it is a matter for continuing educational reforms.

      If you wish, I can refer you to Our Host's many posts on the subject.

      While I have your attention, I have a question for you. I notice you regularly designate ethnicity using skin colors expressed as nouns. For example, in the post above, you wrote "I'm wiling to write openly about areas where blacks lag other races." I also noted the other day that you sometimes use the term "whites" in a similar way.

      Is this a linguistic choice you have made or is it the result of a long-standing textual habit? This usage is largely out of favor among writers and editors. However, if you choose to use these constructions for your own reasons, I understand.

      Generally, many style guides suggest using "black" and "white" and other designations of ethnicity as adjectives, not nouns.

      While many sources on the subject that pop up immediately in response to a Google search might be called "liberal" or "woke," others are more anodyne. Here's guidance from the stylebook of the JAMA Network:

      Do not present race and ethnicity as nouns.

      Use as modifiers (eg, Asian patient, Black individual, White populations) or as predicate adjectives (eg, Patients who are Asian, Black, or White).

      The adjectival form may be used as a predicate adjective to modify the subject of a phrase (eg, "the patients were Asian, Black, Hispanic, and White").

      https://jamanetwork.com/pages/inclusive-language

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    9. Oh, and there's also the question of capitalization ("black" or "Black"). But that's for another time.

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    10. Oh my - a punctuation argument. Welcome to the bottom of the barrel!

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    11. Quaker -- I use "black" and "white" as nouns to make my comments more concise. This is a valid usage according to the dictionary.

      Your point about the education gap is well taken. But, it depends on the sphere. When people are decrying the unfairness of admission to special schools, it doesn't go well to point out to them that blacks are worse students. Same for some types of jobs.

      It's more touchy to mention that blacks have considerably lower IQs, on average. that's asking for trouble. I think the problem is that many people wrongly think IQ is purely genetic, so they wrongly think that the person mentioning lower black IQs is claiming that blacks are genetically inferior.)

      Crime is touchier than academics. The black crime rate is considerably higher than white or Asian. That's not comfortable for most people to hear. So, race is very often withheld for black perps.

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    12. "it doesn't go well to point out to them that blacks are worse students"

      There's a good reason why it doesn't go well. That statement conflates individual achievement with aggregate measures of a demographically diverse population based on one noncausal factor.

      In short, skin color does not determine academic capability. While you may not intend to say so in such a statement, a reader may easily interpret it to say that skin color is determinative.

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    13. Also, your dictionary may be out of date. Here's what the Merriam-Webster online version says:

      Black or less commonly black
      a
      : a person belonging to any of various population groups of especially African ancestry often considered as having dark pigmentation of the skin but in fact having a wide range of skin colors
      NOTE: Capitalization of Black in this use is now widely established.

      b
      : AFRICAN AMERICAN
      NOTE: Capitalization of Black in this use is now widely established.

      NOTE: Use of the noun Black in the singular to refer to a person is considered offensive. The plural form Blacks is still commonly used by Black people and others to refer to Black people as a group or community, but the plural form too is increasingly considered offensive, and most style guides advise writers to use Black people rather than Blacks when practical.

      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black

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    14. thanks for the clarification, Quaker.

      You have a good point. Yet, oddly enough, I point these things out to refute those who conflate individual achievement with aggregate measures of a demographically diverse population based on one noncausal factor.

      When a black student doesn't score high enough to get accepted by a special school, that should be the end of if. This individual didn't make the cut. But, many people look for some reason to accept her/him anyhow. They'll say that this student is really qualified, but should get special treatment because of his/her race. They justify that demand by pointing out average differences by race in the test scores, as if these differences mean something. That is, they argue that blacks should be treated differently because of some aggregate measure of other blacks.

      IMO each student should be evaluated as an individual. However, one needs to point out average differences to refute the argument shown above

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    15. @DiC: Whatever. I wouldn't want you to be misunderstood because of an outdated understanding of discussions about race. You want to use "black" and "white" as nouns? All I want to know is whether you are fully informed when you use them that way.

      Ethnicity is only one way to segment a population. Income, education, family status, and longevity in a community are others. If you wish to state that "blacks" are worse students, then you make it apparent that you find the correlation between race and academic achievement as determinative.

      There's a word for that.

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  11. The village idiot is all upset about Trump's unified Reich video but doesn't have the balls to say why anyone should be upset about it, opting instead for good ole. implication without direct accusation. This idiot is an imbecile with no balls.

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    1. Quaker in a BasementMay 23, 2024 at 6:02 PM

      @Anon 5:25
      The inclusion of language about a unified reich was either accidental or it was not.

      If it was accidental, then someone involved in the production of the ad had content regarding a unified reich at hand and it somehow made its way into the video. People might be upset that any party to the campaign team for a leading candidate a) had this material at hand, and b) was careless enough to let it slip into an ad. That would mean that this person, whoever it is, engages some questionably extreme actors and is also monumentally sloppy.

      If it was not accidental, one of our major candidates is trafficking in fascist imagery. The reasons for doing so are disturbing no matter how you might explain them.

      What's your choice?

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    2. That's a false choice, dumbshit.

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    3. Quaker in a Basement - if that's really how you reason, you're in trouble.

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    4. Quaker - really - can't you see it's a faux-controversy?

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    5. Quaker - or someone used a generic template and propagandists on the left found a red herring it and used it as propaganda to fool unwitting dupes like yourself.

      https://elements.envato.com/newspaper-vintage-history-headlines-promo-6UD9B8E

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    6. So. No answer? As I might have guessed.

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    7. This is the answer:

      Someone used a generic template (link below) and propagandists on the left found a red herring in it and used it as propaganda to fool flat out fools like yourself. It's too bad. I really find it hard to believe you don't see its a manufactured non issue. That's really too bad. It's really disappointing. It's just another in such a long line of self owns by our side. Have a good weekend.

      https://elements.envato.com/newspaper-vintage-history-headlines-promo-6UD9B8E

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    8. Think of it akin to calling refugees "illegal immigrants", which is also a red herring.

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    9. 8:30: I will think of it akin to that. Thanks.

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  12. Red herring? It was posted by Trump's campaign on Trump's social media site. He's just not responsible for anything, is he?

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    1. For what are you claiming he is responsible? Be specific.

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    2. (It's from a generic After Effects template available for sale to the public so remember whatever it is you're claiming Trump is responsible for, everyone else who downloaded it and used it in their content is guilty of the same thing.)

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    3. Yes, I believe it was in the templates for neo-Nazi/white Christian Nationalist category.

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  13. Dammit, I want my rike unified. Pronto.

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  14. It may end up to be effective propaganda on the part of the Biden campaign. We'll have to see. Given that they are in such terrible shape, it may simply be their obligation to promote easily debunked non issues if they find them. If anything, they will work with the rank and file. Actually, that may be the only objective. To keep the rank and file gassed up. Keep 'em angry. scared and stupid about phantom threats as we head into the election. Take their mind off of Biden's myriad failures and deficiencies. It's interesting to see it work so well on the poor dumb bastard that comments here.

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  15. The content of that video is so out of character for the decision makers in the Trump campaign that I can think of no other such awkward purveyance of fascist right wing doctrine. Except, come to think of it, lunch at Mar a Lago with a white supremicist. OK, maybe that one too, but no other. Except dog whistling the Proud Boys at a rally. Yeah, but no more. Except a certain comment about the good people attending a rally in South Carolina in which a demonstrator was mowed down by a right wing agitator amid racist and antisemitic pro Trump followers. Please, no more.

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    1. It's a salient point about the purveyance of the comment at a rally in which there was a mowing down.

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  16. Then again Trump has no history of racist rhetoric and propaganda. Except promoting the lie that Obama was born outside the US. OK maybe that one but no other. Except, come to think of it, calling for the incarceration of the Central Park Five. After they had been acquitted. But their skin color had nothing to do with it. I just don't see a connection between Trump's history of promoting falsehoods about (coincidentally) Black folk and a following by fascist White supremicists. Making that kind of connection would require some dumb bastard to buy in to left wing propaganda.

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    1. "Making that kind of connection would require some dumb bastard to buy in to left wing propaganda."

      True dat. Anyone called "racist" or "fascist" by a moonbat has my respect.

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  17. 11:07 and 6:39 should get together and try coming up with something that resembles an idea.

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