SATURDAY: The Five and the friends have been pushing back hard!

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 2024

Out of many mouths, one: E pluribus unum! The leading authority on the traditional motto starts by telling us this:

E pluribus unum 

E pluribus unum ( Latin for "Out of many, one") is a traditional motto of the United States, appearing on the Great Seal along with Annuit cœptis (Latin for "he approves the undertaking") and Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New order of the ages") which appear on the reverse of the Great Seal; its inclusion on the seal was suggested by Pierre Eugene du Simitiere and approved in an act of the Congress of the Confederation in 1782. While its status as national motto was for many years unofficial, E pluribus unum was still considered the de facto motto of the United States from its early history. Eventually, the U.S. Congress passed an act in 1956 (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting "In God We Trust" as the official motto.

That the phrase "E pluribus unum" has thirteen letters makes its use symbolic of the original Thirteen Colonies which rebelled against the rule of the Kingdom of Great Britain...

In Latin, it even has thirteen letters! So the authority says.

Out of many, one! It was once considered to be the national motto. Today, it could be the motto of the Fox News Channel, whose many mouths have swung into action defending Candidate Trump with respect to what he recently said about nine rifles shooting at the face of the "very stupid" Liz Cheney.

Our of many corporate noggins, one uniform point of view! This is also a bit of a problem on the programs of MSNBC, the channel which spent year upon year pushing the now-abandoned desire to lock Donald Trump up.

Candidate Harris walked away from that standard theme, which had been beaten to death on MSNBC over the endless long years. We'll guess that the framework didn't poll especially well, a point we'd been suggesting for years right here at this site.

Whatever! Let's return to the tragicomic, soul-crushing problem which is found wherever the Fox friends roam.

Under the sway of a modern practice—it's known as "Segregation by viewpoint"—almost everyone who appears on a Fox News Channel program will agree, in every particular, with almost everyone else. And so it was, this very morning, on the sad show, Fox & Friends Weekend, with the three regular friends seated right there on the couch:

Fox & Friends Weekend: November 2, 2024
Will Cain: regular co-host
Rachel Campos-Duffy: regular co-host
Pete Hegseth: regular co-host

They're all extremely regular! Quite reliably, these friends will agree with each other on every conceivable point. 

As with MSNBC panels, so too on this ersatz news program. "Seldom is heard a discouraging word" as the messaging moves forward.

Presumably, the Murdochs could save a lot on salary if they assigned just one of the three friends to go on the air and read the day's mandated points. We'll take a guess:

Apparently, it looks more like a panel discussion when a trio of friends appear.

Is there some discernible point to this standard cable procedure? Is there some point to assembling a four- or five-member panel, if every member of the panel is guaranteed to agree with everyone else on every conceivable topic?

Presumably, there's major propaganda value to that procedure. There's propaganda value there, but not a whole lot else.

At any rate, the friends were very busy this morning defending Donald J. Trump. The same mandate had been observed yesterday afternoon at the start of The Five.

The Five is the most-watched program in all of cable news. It's also one of the programs on which the panelists don't all agree.

The popular program achieves its frisson from the inclusion of one liberal panelist who may well disagree. The fun starts with "the killing of the pig"—with the way The Four will interrupt and overtalk The One if the dissenter starts making a point which is perhaps a bit too sharp.

At such moments, the program recalls a seminal scene from the 1946 Hitchcock film, Notorious. In that scene, the Ingrid Bergman character suddenly realizes that she's being poisoned by the group of Nazis she has infiltrated through an insincere marriage. 

(When she mistakenly reaches for the cup of coffee which hasn't been poisoned, several of the Nazis respond in alarm, thereby creating an unmistakable "tell." For the record, we're speaking here of literal "Nazis;" there is no question of overwrought rhetoric. The Nazis have been slowly poisoning the Bergman character because they've learned that she's an American agent. The drama spools forward from there.)

To watch that seminal scene from Notorious, just click here. For us, the behavior of the four scripted players on The Five often recalls that scene, in tragicomic fashion.

Yesterday, the scripted players began the program with a defense of what their candidate said, the day before, about Liz Cheney. The lineup looked like this: 

The Five: November 1, 2024
Judge Jeanine: regular co-host
Jesse Watters: regular co-host
Greg Gutfeld: regular co-host
Martha MacCallum: substitute co-host
Jessica Tarlov: The Other

Jessica Tarlov was cast as The One, sitting among The Four. MacCallum was sitting in as a guest co-host, replacing the eternally compliant Dana Perino.

The various players were in place! Here's the way MacCallum started, still at 5:00 sharp:

MACCALLUM (11/1/24): ...Matt Drudge, blaring out this headline: "Trump calls for Cheney's execution." And other outlets quickly following suit as they mischaracterized some comments by former president Trump, made last night, about Liz Cheney being a war hawk. But listen to this closely:

At this point, Mccallum aired videotape of Candidate Trump's remarks to Tucker Carlson about "the very stupid" Cheney. And no! Unless you've gone around the bend, the former president wasn't literally calling for Cheney's literal execution.

Unless you've gone around the bend, he wasn't doing that!  He was doing something different—he was employing remarkably violent rhetoric as he savaged a "very stupid person" with whom he disagrees.

In his comments to Carlson, the former president wasn't literally calling for Cheney's literal execution. That wasn't the problem with what he did. At this highly fraught time—a time riddled with violent behavior by suggestible people—the problem was something different.

McCallum had played the videotape of what the former president said. She now offered this:

MACCALLUM: So the press wasted no time to follow Drudge's lead and did twist those comments. Watch this:

KASIE HUNT (videotape): Violent rhetoric. Donald Trump going after political foe Liz Cheney.

The press did twist Trump's comments, MacCallum assertively said. She then played that clip from CNN's Kasie Hunt—and that was the entire clip from Hunt. 

In the clip, Hunt hadn't "followed Drudge's lead" regarding execution. She had merely said that Trump used "violent rhetoric," which is of course what he did.

Under current arrangements, product like that is "close enough for Fox News Channel work." At any rate, the tightly edited video clips continued on from there. 

Of the five additional clips which MacCallum played, we'd have to say that only one even seemed to "follow Drudge's lead" in the manner described. That said, on a program like The Five, mandated corporate dogma will routinely take the place of competent journalism. 

At this point, four of the panelists took their turns insisting that the candidate had been viciously wronged all over "the media." In this unusual instance, Tarlov's response was so ineffectual that there was no need for everyone to interrupt her all at one, Notorious poisoning style.

The whole thing started up again when Fox & Friends Weekend convened. The trio of friends defended and defended and defended Trump again and again, an apparent sign that his use of violent rhetoric was perhaps doing him harm.

The friends took turns saying what they're paid to say. Stating the obvious, this sort of thing is a parody of journalism. It constitutes a fairly obvious "cancer on the democracy."

Thanks to the cyberattack on the Internet Archive, we can't link you to this morning's clowning. If you have the right sort of cable connection, you can watch last evening's edition of The Five simply by clicking here.

We'll close today with an observation about Fox friend Campos-Duffy.

Even now, months later, she still refuses to pronounce the name of the Democratic candidate in the way that person's name is correctly pronounced. Campos-Duffy is extremely genial among her friends, but is willing to behave this way with respect to Others.

With respect to Communists, Marxists, pagans and Others, the good cheer of this genial person quickly disappears. According to experts, this behavior is "human, all too human." 

It's human all the way down.

At any rate, the friends and The Four have been pushing back hard. The implied motto of such programming is clear:

Out of many (mouths), one!


96 comments:

  1. In Campos-Duffy's defense, her audience is a bunch of assholes.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. When I encounter a bunch of assholes, my asshole bunches up.

      I don’t know if that is irony, or excessive fiber.

      Delete
  2. TRUMP PLAGIARIZED FORTUNATE SON

    ReplyDelete
  3. Last night I dreamt demons were eating my pets while my six wolverines slept peacefully nearby.

    ReplyDelete
  4. I dislike the way Somerby has tried to make being human into a bad thing. Who does that?

    ReplyDelete
  5. Somerby makes a pretty wild claim: “the now-abandoned desire to lock Donald Trump up”, does not bother to substantiate it, and then follows it up with another nutty claim: “Candidate Harris walked away from that standard theme”.

    These claims are patently false; neither in rhetoric nor action have Dems “abandoned” holding Trump to account for his corruption and criminality, these things are, in fact, ongoing and appear to be relatively successful. “Candidate Harris” routinely references Trump’s criminality at her rallies and in her interviews and speeches. Harris indeed has framed this race as prosecutor vs felon. Yet another faceplant from Somerby, something he has become notorious for.

    While weirdly bragging, Somerby lets slip a key reason for why he gets this, and nearly everything else, so wrong, Somerby: “We’ll guess…”.

    That’s right folks, Somerby hasn’t a clue, he’s just guessing, pulling shit out of his ass.

    Later, Somerby weirdly implies that human behavior is…human (!), and attributes that old chestnut to “experts”. No shit Sherlock insights do not really require experts; however, what experts do say about the referenced behavior is that it is not innately human, it is, in fact, emergent from societal circumstances.

    Today’s post also includes some whining about “overwrought rhetoric” (hat tip to Somerby’s delicate right wing sensitivities), and about Fox News not being journalism. Fox News self identifies as largely entertainment, a safe space for Republicans. This has been made clear in lawsuits, which have also made clear how disingenuous Fox News presenters are, as, for example, we have learned that current Trump simp Tucker Carlson in reality despises Trump and thinks Trump is a disaster. Yes that’s right, when Tucker makes up stories (about Trump, about ghosts, etc), guess what folks, it’s a con, you’re being played.

    The degree to which one could claim corporate media such as Fox News is a “cancer on democracy” (talk about overwrought rhetoric!) has been greatly diminished in recent years, primarily due to the democratization of media. Without the democratization of media it is highly unlikely that the transition of candidates from Biden to Harris would have been as smooth and successful as it has been, and all indications suggest a Harris win, which would be a monumental achievement, but one that will leave Somerby eating crow while coping with depression.

    At least Somerby will have his stories he can turn to for solace and soothing, to aid in coping with his emotional distress.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why is it that those who rant on about how Somerby secretly favors Trump are always Anons?

      Delete
    2. 11:37’s “rant” seems to be about how Somerby gets things wrong because Somerby seems to be ruled by emotions/storytelling instead of evidence, nothing about “secretly favors Trump”.

      I do think Somerby secretly favors Trump, not because he likes Trump, but because Somerby is a bitterly angry person, and I would have preferred it if 11:37 had been explicit about this.

      I think you make a good point though PP, most of the right wing fanboys/trolls here do use names to identify themselves, I think that is probably due to a misguided sense of pride and as a propaganda tactic, relying on developing a cult of personality instead of good, coherent arguments.

      I remain anonymous here because I find the tone of the right wing fanboys/trolls to be intimidating and even violent.

      Delete
    3. I see. You hide because you fear.

      Delete
    4. Correct. I am uncomfortable with your, and others like you, intimidating and violent tone.

      I fear not just for my personal safety, but for society’s as well.

      I do not typically wear boots, unless fashion dictates, but were I to wear them while reading your comments, I would be quaking in them.

      Delete
    5. Perhaps you could point me to one of my “violent” comments that scare you so much. I’ll wait.

      Delete
    6. My complaint against these (self-admittedly) scared little Mice is not their insulting tone, and it’s not their criticisms of Somerby. No. Instead, it’s their habit of making shit up. This bullshit about “violent comments” is just the latest of innumerable examples.

      Delete
    7. We can start with 12:47.

      “I’ll wait” is creepy stalker language.

      Delete
    8. It's also a way of emphasizing that the person he's requesting a quote from is in all likelihood not going to provide it.

      And 'stalker language' is a bizarre adjective to apply when the setting is anonymous comments where there is zero possibility of any actual stalking taking place.

      Delete
    9. https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cyberstalking-5181466

      Delete
    10. But it’s funny that it was a Mouse that let the cat out of the bag: They don’t use nyms because they’re scared.

      Delete
    11. Hahahahahaha

      PP: I’m so abusive, it scares others, so funny!

      Delete
    12. 12:57 - Really? My saying that I’ll wait for an example to be posted frightens you with its threat of violence? You really are a delicate flower, aren’t you?

      Delete
    13. What’s funny is PP getting mercilessly mocked (albeit with a kernel of truth) and not even picking up in it.

      Delete
    14. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/376966139_The_Power_of_Words_-_Unveiling_the_Depths_of_Verbal_Violence

      https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201308/why-words-can-hurt-at-least-as-much-as-sticks-and-stones

      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-superhuman-mind/201803/the-verbal-abusers-sneaky-tactics

      Delete
    15. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/202012/why-verbal-abuse-can-do-so-much-damage

      Delete
    16. Anonymices and their anonymouse flying monkeys endlessly issue uninspired insults as to the character and intelligence of Somerby and any poster/contrarian at TDH.

      Ironically, by the end of the day, they will have shown the world their own flaws, defects, militancy, dullness, denseness, malevolence, wrathfulness, self-pity, and manipulativeness, with which they are all overflowing. They’d show us their dirty underpants if they could find a way to do it. Anonymices leave almost nothing to the imagination.

      Delete
    17. Pot/kettle Cecelia.

      Delete
    18. How’s it going, Pot/Kettle?

      Delete
    19. 1:05,

      followed the link. Read the article. Didn't come close to supporting the notion that 'I'll wait.' in an anonymous comment space qualifies as cyberstalking.

      Delete
    20. Anonymous 3:54pm is me. I guess I hit the google drop down thing.

      Delete
    21. "They don't use nyms because they're scared" That is a rather broad statement in reference to a statement from a single commenter. Is that how your mind works?

      Delete
    22. The whole demand for nyms coming from Cecelia, PP and AC/MA comes across as hostile and aggressive, an attempt to intimidate other commenters here. There is no need for nyms unless someone is intending to stalk in some way. I've explained several times why I don't want to use a nym, but they never drop it and leave people alone. That doesn't speak well for the intentions of the conservatives commenters here who bully others by ignoring the content of the comment in order to fixate on ID.

      Delete
    23. And they're pretending they don't do that.

      Here today you have Cecelia and PP both ganging up on someone who criticized Somerby, using their usual tactic of putting words said by others into this commenter's mouth, then complaining because different anonymouse commenters are different people with different thoughts. And not dealing with the criticisms or the specifics of what this person said above. That is how trolls behave, but no troll here has the right to know anything more about any commenter than they want to reveal, and that includes the nym. Demanding more info is threatening. I find it so, and I agree with the person above who has been calling this stalking behavior. That's exactly what it is.

      Delete
    24. If not using a nym is annoying to certain boorish commenters, I'm in no rush to acquire one.

      Delete
    25. Anonymouse 10:05pm, anonymices are not different people with different thoughts. You don’t get to be anonymous, indistinguishable from any other anonymouse, with no accountability as to what you say from one day to the next, AND be unique. That’s not possible.

      You want to be recognized for your own…eh…unique… thoughts and feelings, get a verified nym. Try “Einstein” for the irony.

      Delete
    26. Anonymouse 9:54pm, thanks for making it abundantly clear that I’m dead-on when I described anonymices as self-pitying and MANIPULATIVE. Boy howdy.

      Delete
    27. Look in the mirror Cecelia. You are describing yourself.

      Delete
    28. Anonymouse 1:39am, I am referring to mices who complain about not being recognized as unique individuals, yet willingly remain anonymous commenters. Then they argue that they fear being stalked by people who ARE identifiable on the blog. That’s the usual anonymouse “logic” and breast-beating drama right there… Faux and deceptive to the core.

      Delete
    29. BOO!!!!

      (Did I scare you?)

      Delete
  6. Tucker has a wife?

    Tucker’s not gay?

    With that incessant girlish giggle?

    Isn’t it more likely those scratches were from Tucker’s wife’s beard?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Only Tucker knows what he is. But his advocacy of genital tanning does not place him in the mainstream of humans containing Y chromosomes. And if that's what he does to enhance masculinity, it clearly aint working. I have a theory that his and Trump's sycophantic drooling over Putin may be explained by a single compromising photograph.

      Delete
    2. And Trump's recent foray with a microphone does nothing to discredit that theory.

      Delete
  7. Right wingers are notorious for their dark and dim views on humanity.

    As their hero Hobbes put it:

    “every man is Enemy to every man… And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short.”

    Science has disproved this nonsense, but right wingers feign that they did not get the memo, instead, stuck in survival mode due to unresolved trauma, they cling to their doom and gloom, like a baby’s pacifier.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Science may have disproved that nonsense but don't count on a Republican to believe anything that comes from science at this point.

      Delete
  8. Bob describes FoxNews hosts as "regular". He's doubly right. "Regular" in common usage means having normal BMs. And, these hosts do indeed normally produce shit.

    ReplyDelete
  9. Walz tried to insult Musk by calling him "gay". Listen for yourself at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tim-walz-appears-to-call-elon-musk-a-gay-guy/vi-AA1tlR6S

    Does that sort of homophobia affect your vote?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Seemed inadvertent to me. But then I wasn't viewing it with my MAGA glasses on.

      Delete
    2. Actually I agree with you, @4:31. However, it's a vivid comparison. Walz said something truly offensive, but we ignore it because it's "inadvertent"(whatever that means). OTOH Trump says things that are not at all offensive and they get widely reported as if they were terrible. E.g., my local paper has an AP story today criticizing Trump because he made the common observation that the people who start wars are not the ones who suffer in their wars. This was covered as if Trump wanted Cheney killed by a firing squad.

      Another supposed terrible thing. Trump said he would protect women from criminals and foreign attacks "whether they like it or not." That last phrase does sound odd. What it probably means is that his policies would protect women, even though women don't support him. But, it's being reported as if Trump was promising to enslave women.

      A WaPo TV host said that because Trump filed two election-related lawsuits, that means he will unreasonably contest the election. The host was unembarrassed when it was pointed out that Trump WON both these suits, which shows that they were appropriate..

      Never in my life have I seen such a barrage of one-sided lies promulgated by the mainstream media. Not just from CNN and MSNBC, but the AP, the New York Times and the network news. It will be a sad day for America if these lies succeed.

      Delete
    3. I think they had Walz “inadvertly” call Musk gay in order to butch Walz up. They’ve been working on that for awhile.

      Delete
    4. Speaking of manly, If Walz would start wearing thick pancake makeup and a girdle, like Trump, he would be the idol of the manly incel crew.

      Delete
    5. "The host was unembarrassed when it was pointed out that Trump WON both these suits, which shows that they were appropriate."

      False. He won only one of 61 suits, and that one was trivial.

      Delete
    6. I don’t think Walz is gay, he’s Teddy bearish.

      Delete
    7. On the other hand, Trump is grotesque.

      Delete
    8. @6:51 - the one you refer to was a dismissal for a procedural error. It never reached the courtroom.

      Delete
    9. Don't contaminate the world according to DIC with facts, please.

      Delete
    10. Viewed the Fox link posted by DIC. Anyone who thinks that is a purposeful statement by Walz needs to extract his head from Rupert Murdoch's ass. As usual, DIC has provided here a link that discredits his argument. What utter nonsense.

      Delete
    11. I don't think Walz is gay either. He gave off heavy pedo vibes at first but I think that was just because he was nervous under such a bright spotlight. But I think he's pretty much straight. It wouldn't be surprising to learn he had sucked a cock or two though.

      Delete
    12. 1:12 So in general, how has extrapolating from your life experience worked out for you?

      Delete
  10. Yes shopping for Trump judges to rule against laws long on the books to favor him and estranged legal voters is totally on the up and up.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Axios is reporting Kamala Harris has gonorrhea.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Sorry, you're right. It was Politico.

      Delete
    2. Sorry, I meant fuck off, asshole.

      Delete
  12. A small irony. Trump opponents say he wants to make the country like “A Handmaid’s Tale” But Margaret Atwood, the author, just endorsed Trump.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. David, where is that being reported? I can’t find it.

      Delete
    2. I may be wrong. She definitely re-posted this cartoon. https://au.news.yahoo.com/handmaid-tale-author-shares-cryptic-142424689.html
      One source said the cartoon included or implied an endorsement of Trump. Others did not see it this way.

      Delete
    3. God you're so easily conned. Will you ever wake up?

      Delete
    4. You’re right @6:42. It was a joke that I completely missed. My bad.

      Delete
    5. Jesus Christ, DIC. When are you going to get your head examined? As has occurred myriad times in the past, the link you provided completely contradicts your statement about Atwood. It is spelled out in the simplest of terms.

      Delete
    6. Dickhead in Cal just could not resist the temptation to rush here and shove it in our faces that Margaret Atwood endorsed Trump for presidency. As illogical and improbable as that is, Dickhead did not pause to use his brain. It was just too good to be true and he had to be the first on the block to rub our noses in it. As I said, Dickhed in Cal is a nasty piece of work.

      Trump opponents say he wants to make the country like “A Handmaid’s Tale”

      Trump opponents recall that Trump placed 3 lying Christo-Fascists on the Supreme Court who promptly moved this country closer to a dystopian hell for women. Dickhead in Cal, octogenarian retired actuary living the life of Riley in California, Constitutional scholar that he is, heartily approved.

      Delete
  13. I got bounced earlier but there is a rally video of the Felon complaining his mic is too low then he circles the mic stand with thumb and forefinger and pretends to slowly stroke, then repeatedly bends over pretending to cover with his mouth, kinda weird. Honest engine.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I know, that segment is so strange. What does he think he is doing?

      Delete
    2. He is demented.

      Delete
    3. Saw it on "Weekend Update". Unhinged. Not explicable in polite terms, but maybe DIC can give a go at it. He always has an explanation for Trump's behavior; it's as if Trump's response to his apologists here is " Nice work so far, but let this be a challenge for you." So what is he doing that makes perfect sense with the microphone, DIC? Not holding my breath for a response.

      Delete
    4. What are we implying is strange about it? Are you sure he slowly stroked it? What was the context?

      We are saying the he slowly stoked it like it was a penis, right? Arty, is that what you are implying?
      We think that Orangeface McRapey was on stage during a rally, complaining about mic problems and decided to stroke the mic stand like it was a penis and then bend over and pretend to suck it like he was sucking a penis. Right? Just to be clear, that is what we think, right? Arty, what exactly are you saying is weird about it? 1:25 What exactly is unhinged about it? Why is it unhinged? You do believe it he decided to treat the mic stand like a penis right? That is what you meant by saying " in polite terms", right? Please explain exactly what your problem is so apologists can accurately defend it. You feel positive it was a gesture emulating stroking and sucking a penis, right?

      Delete
    5. The accusation is Trump was giving a rally and had mic problems and was complaining about mics and began to riff on what happened when his mic wasn't working, and because he is crazy, he circles the mic stand with thumb and forefinger like men do when they masturbate their penis's and then he begins to slowly stroke the mic stand like it was a penis and like he was masturbating the penis and after slowly stroking and masturbating the mic stand he repeatedly bends over pretending to cover with his mouth like he was sucking the penis. It was unhinged. Weekend Update covered it. Everyone is really shocked and horrified. It's impossible to describe in polite terms because he it had to do with masturbating and sucking penises. There's no explaining it. Humans are the rational animal.

      Delete
    6. Arty, I'm holding my breath waiting for you to explain exactly what your accusation is.

      Delete
    7. 1:25 What exactly are you accusing Trump of doing that doesn't make sense?

      Delete
    8. Because if we are accusing Trump of "slowly stoking" the mic stand like a penis, the joke will, once again, be on us. We will have, once again, played the fools.

      Don't you ever get tired of playing the fool?

      Delete
    9. Go ahead and explain to us what it is you think he was doing. I asked for an explanation. I assume that one of you Trump apologists can provide one. If deflecting is all you've got, that's fine. You are well practiced at it by now.

      Delete
    10. I think he is demented and doesn't know what he is doing, just like he says things that are bonkers, including nonsensical gibberish. It looks lurid but there is likely a benign explanation. As in, he is demented and does shit like this. The fool is whoever votes for the demented codger despite witnessing this and many other bizarre behaviors. The only modern presidential candidate that refuses to disclose his medical records, that contain two Montreal dementia assessments that we know of. One performed while under the care of his handpicked presidential physician, whose name he got wrong when describing the first time he took the test. So since you choose to deflect on the mic video, let's give a go at why he refuses to disclose the results of his dementia testing, among other medical details. Go ahead, give it your best shot, champ.

      Delete
    11. 3:05 - you asked for an explanation of what exactly? That Trump took the mic stand with thumb and forefinger and slowly stroked it? What is the matter with that - why is that bad? What exactly is there to explain? Are you accusing him of masturbating the mic stand? What exactly is not explicable in polite terms? What do you mean by that? What exactlyis your accusation? You haven't said. I don't even agree he slowly stroked it. But tell us abut how he slowly stroked it and why that needs an explanation. I hate Trump. I don't want to be an apologist for a cohort of dumbshits who stupidly accuse Trump of masturbating a mic stand. But please tell us what the problem is so we all know.

      Delete
    12. "It looks lurid but there is likely a benign explanation." I thought it wasn't explicable. Which is it?

      Delete
    13. Read my first sentence at 3:25, dumbass. There is a reason that his machinations with the microphone which were not just stroking the thing have made the rounds, including SNL. But keep deflecting like a Trump cultist, irrespective of your disclaimer.I asked a question, you blather on without answering it. His activity with the microphone, the stroking and head bobbing cannot be explained by me. I am not on the defensive here for that activity no matter how much you would like to deflect. You can't / won't answer the simple question. Your problem.

      Delete
    14. "There is a reason that his machinations with the microphone which were not just stroking the thing have made the rounds, including SNL. "

      What exactly is the reason? What is your accusation? Why does it need explaining?

      Delete
    15. This is hilariously idiotic. Trump is complaining about issues he’s been having with microphone stands being too low. Trump illustrates by showing how he has to stoop low over the mic when he speaks and then bob up to a straight position to look at the crowd. He also complains that the volume is too low. Trump is publicly excoriating his technicians over their handling of the sound system and media morons come up with this tripe? Couldn’t they have merely made an honest claim that it’s tacky for Trump to attempt to publicly shame his sound system staff out of frustration?

      At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if NBC or CNN decided to get on a roof and fire a shot at Trump.

      Delete
    16. 8:54
      Can you clarify what about the microphone adjustment seems ‘unhinged’ to you? Was there a specific action or behavior that seemed extreme? What is it?

      You don't directly explain why the microphone action is absurd, which makes it hard for someone to defend or explain.

      Delete
    17. It seems people want to imply that he held the microphone stand as if it was a penis and slowly and methodically fondled and stroked it like men do when they masturbate their penises. And that he moved forward to the mic stand and again as if it were a man's erect penis began to emulate orally copulating the mic stand as if it were an erect penis he was inserting into his mouth. Repeatedly bending over inserting the erect penis into his mouth after slowly and methodically stroking it over and over.

      They seem to want to imply this but are afraid to actually say it for some reason.

      What is that about?

      Delete
    18. If you look at the video, Rapeface McFelonies doesn't pretend to slowly stroke the mic stand.

      Arty, what makes you say he pretends to slowly stroke the mic stand? What is weird about it? Why exactly did you bring this up? Are you making an accusation that he was doing something sexual? What is that exactly?

      Delete
    19. What's wrong with Trump being distracted from raping women by a microphone having technical problems?

      Delete
    20. People are saying Trump's reaction the microphone having technical problems is weird and unhinged but they don't explain why and on top of that, they demand an explanation for their unexplained reaction.

      Delete
    21. Agree with Cecelia here. A demented old man bobbing his head up and down over a Mic stand with his mouth wide open after stroking it vertically is a good look.

      Delete
    22. Anonymouse 10:21sm, evidently it is more than a “good look” for your sort, because you have to be fairly concentrated on that sort of thing to read it into gestures that illustrate a microphone is too darn low.

      Delete
    23. Why are you screaming that the obvious is not what it is? Sorry you don't like it, but the felon is just too f/n weird.

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/snls-michael-che-knows-why-trump-was-blowing-that-mic-stand/

      Delete
    24. 1:00 I’m good with whatever the Orange Jesus does to embarrass himself, and by extension his cult.

      Delete
    25. I always pretend to raise the mic stand with my mouth. Definitely not weird. What is weird is having to defend it. It is what it is. Suck on that libs!

      Delete
  14. "With respect to Communists, Marxists, pagans and Others, the good cheer of this genial person quickly disappears."

    Which of these things does not belong? Somerby's reference to Others is to Democrats. The Republican habit of listing Democrats along with extremist groups is a way of demonizing non-Republican voters. Somerby should recognize that this is just another Fox host playing politics and not any kind of serious statement.

    Given the way they behave at Fox, I wonder why Somerby bothers to point this stuff out at all. It is the way they have always operated, not some new outrage. Does Somerby have nothing better to talk about today?

    ReplyDelete
  15. "it wouldn’t surprise me if NBC or CNN decided to get on a roof and fire a shot at Trump." Cecelia, always with the helpful and informing comments. Not weird.

    ReplyDelete