The joy of non-consensual sex: Everything seems to be amusing to the high lady Collins.
We thought the start of yesterday’s column put several points in perspective:
COLLINS (8/23/12): In colonial America, conventional wisdom held that women could not get pregnant unless they enjoyed the sex.To Collins, Akins’ comments provided a wonderful chance for amusement! It’s the joy of non-consensual sex!
People, who would have thought I’d have an opportunity to bring up this factoid right in the middle of a presidential race? Thank you, Representative Todd Akin of Missouri! Without you, we might have been condemned to spend today reinvestigating the Congressional Budget Office Medicare cost projections.
Plus, it gave us the latest excuse to skip all that Medicare crap!
We don’t think we’ve ever seen Collins summarize things so clearly. People, life is a cabaret! And Collins has excellent health care.
People, who gives a shit about everyone else and their stupid old Medicare crap?
"Re"-investigating? Is that what Collins has been doing up to now?
ReplyDeleteIn a blog filled with it, you're unable to recognize Collins' comments as snark? By pretending her statements are serious, you undermine your own credibility. I have come to expect better from Somerby.
ReplyDeleteNo.
DeleteCollins has REPEATEDLY told us how boring she finds policy talk.
You really don't know who she is if you think she's not serious about that.
Dang. Where was she with that when she was mentioning Seamus in her columns?
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't deserve to sit on this particular high-horse. She'll have to settle for the view she gets from grasping onto its tail.
I'll give this to Collins, she has gotten the lack of logic behind the notion that life at conception is no different from life at any stage of development.
ReplyDeleteThe inability to see the difference between nascent life, and life at six months gestation, is why people get the idea that it's okay to kill abortionists and bomb clinics. If babies were being carried into gas chambers, who would question such measures against that?
It's also why we can't come to some commonsensical proscriptions against abortion based upon gestation.
"The inability to see the difference between nascent life, and life at six month
Deletegestation, is why people get the idea that it's okay to kill abortionists and
bomb clinics." Hard data, no doubt, to follow.
Our own little National Review golden girl has moved to Coultertown!
I hope those who encouraged this nitwit round these parts are happy.
Greg, don't forget, some encouraged you! And some see you as a nitwit these days.
DeleteWrong in part, wrong in all: that is a bullshit theory.
I don't think that it takes "data" to make the case that the people who commit violence over the issue of abortion are people who have taken the notion that there is no difference between a fetus and a five year old.
DeleteThe issue is not helped by other people who argue that the only relevant difference between a baby on a neonatal unit and one in a freezer at said clinic is "choice".
You are all over the map here... But more please, my nitwits are feeling frisky...
DeleteRight, and they're all the wits you have.
DeleteIf the brain is "lizard" when it responds reflexively to stimuli rather than making thoughtful distinctions, I am afraid Bob Somerby may be exposing a lizardliness in his own thinking here. What kind of reader would focus on Collins' incidental joke about CBO's projections of Medicare cost projections? A non-lizard brain might (generously) read that joke as self-deprecating but in any case (even if not in a generous mood on that score) might focus on her smart comments on the subject she has chosen to discuss.
ReplyDeleteYes, the NYT should have some "humorous" or "satirical" (so I've seen Dowd characterized!) -- well, any columnists besides Krugman -- who regularly engage the economic issues that are at the forefront of most of our politics today. But that's the fault of editors and those higher up on the food chain, isn't it?
Satire is a VERY generous word for Collins and Dowd, but as I've gently suggested around here from time to time, they are TRYING to be funny, and to react to snark as if it were completely serious does make The Daily Howler seem, at times, a bit thick. This matter is complicated by the fact that Dowd and Collins are real yahoos and only funny to people (they must be out there) that they have helped misinform.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't your last sentence serve as a valid reason to distinguish between being thick and being frustrated?
ReplyDeleteOr to pick your battles, or to respond to what, if anything they are actually trying to say...
ReplyDeleteMaybe you can model that to make sure we understand what you mean...
DeleteLet me help you out here, Cecelia since Bob isn't around to tell you what to think.
DeleteWhat Greg said that put your panties in a wad was in no way a defense of Collins or Dowd.
What he is saying is that Somerby appears to give Collins and Down far more consideration than they deserve. And this is the same Somerby who warned about "overkill" on Akin, lest "progressives" who criticize him too harshly help him win the Senate seat.
Oh, Bob doesn't have to be around to tell me what to think. We have walkie-talkies!
DeleteRight now, he telling me to ask you what Dowd and Collins are running for that might in any way bring the Manhattanites in Missouri to the polls?
(10-4, good buddy. Yeah, this Anon is dumber than an SUV full of rocks.)
Well, there is no question you are hearing voices...
ReplyDeleteYeah, you have that on "their" authority...
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