WHAT WE DID: Why can't you remember the future?

TUESDAY, JULY 10, 2018

Part 2—And other extremely deep thoughts:
Can it really be true? Is Carlo Rovelli's The Order of Time the worst book ever written?

For us down here on this darkling plain, such judgments may seem overwrought, perhaps even hard to justify. Still, we're told that in the future caves where future anthropologists were forced to huddle in the wake of Mr. Trump's War, Rovelli's book is widely described as "fascinatingly awful," indeed as instructively so.

(We've recently learned that Mr. Trump's War is also described, in this future realm, as The War of Vast Liberal Indifference. In this formulation, "liberal" is a shortened form of "pseudoliberal," a reference to the tribe which came to exhibit vast complete and total disdain toward all who were seen as lesser. We're now told that this future war actually occurred in the first year of Ivanka Trump's brief tenure as her father's appointed successor, during which time the former president was able to focus on his new role as Secretary of Endless and Fully Dispositive War.)

Setting future history aside, let's return to the worst story ever told.

Alas! Playing by the rules of the game, The Guardian has offered these prefab remarks about Rovelli's new book:
THOMSON (4/24/18): Nobody said that relativity theory was easy. Einstein’s notion that time and space are essentially one (the concept of curved “spacetime”) is the stuff of abstract poetry. Fortunately, the Italian physicist Carlo Rovelli writes of “warped time” and other tentative physics with incisive clarity. Known for his work on loop quantum gravity theory and the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Anaximander, Rovelli is one of our great scientific explicators. His poetic essay collection Seven Brief Lessons on Physics sold more than a million copies in English translation in 2017 and remains one of the fastest-selling science books ever.

The Order of Time, a deeper, more abstruse meditation, elucidates some of the key developments in the philosophy and physics of time. Fortified with quotations from Proust, Anaximander and the Grateful Dead (Rovelli has a hippyish past), the book continues a tradition of jargon-free scientific writing from Galileo to Darwin that disappeared in the academic specialisation of the last century.
In this way, Guardian readers were told that Rovelli's "jargon-free" book exhibits "incisive clarity" while being deep, abstruse, poetic. When such breakdowns in acuity spread across the wider world of journalism, the path was laid which eventually let Donald J. Trump take power.

Whatever! In yesterday's report, we told you that the "At What Page" question yields this answer: page 12. At that page, it can reliably be said that, despite Rovelli's incisive clarity, no reader has the slightest idea what The Great Explicator is actually talking about.

By that point, an early-round knockout has occurred. After page 12, there's no real reason to extend the pretense of reading this book.

Warning signs come earlier. On pages 1-6, Rovelli presents the part of the book which precedes Part 1.

The pomposity is general. On page 3, when readers encounter this passage, the gods on Olympus roar:
ROVELLI (page 3): Wonder is the source of our desire for knowledge, and the discovery that time is not what we thought it was opens up a thousand questions. The nature of time has been at the center of my life’s work in theoretical physics. In the following pages, I give an account of what we have understood about time and the paths that are being followed in our search to understand it better, as well as an account of what we have yet to understand and what it seems to me that we are just beginning to glimpse.

Why do we remember the past and not the future? Do we exist in time, or does time exist in us? What does it really mean to say that time “passes”? What ties time to our nature as persons, to our subjectivity?

What am I listening to when I listen to the passing of time?
"Wonder is the source of our desire for knowledge?"

Peculiarly, this statement, found at the top of page 3, is adorned with the citation of an endnote. Impossibly, the endnote sources this air-filled claim to Aristotle's Metaphysics I.2.982—and no, we aren't making that up!

Surely, the gods on Olympus roar when mortals read that endnote. We'll guess that, in their future caves, future anthropologists default to sullen thousand-yard stares.

So these others react. But what are we supposed to make of the questions we've highlighted from that passage? Right there, on page 3, the reader is confronted by this:
Why do we remember the past and not the future?
Why do we remember the past and not the future! As the gods on Olympus roar, the rare pre-survivor on modern earth may politely answer this question with one of his or her own:
Because the past has already happened and the future hasn't?
Already, such readers may have a sense of the chaos to come. Others, observing the rules of the game, will agree to imagine that this deep question comes from the realm of Deep Thought.

It doesn't! Meanwhile, what should readers make of this subsequent question?
What am I listening to when I listen to the passing of time?
People who haven't been led astray may balk at that pseudo-question. It will perhaps occur to them that they have a rough idea what someone means when he says he "listened to a passing train," but they've never heard anyone claim to "listen to the passing of time."

For that reason, it may occur to them that they don't have the slightest idea what Rovelli means by his admittedly deep-sounding question. At this point, it may cross their minds that rough waters lie ahead.

Some will quit on this book right there. They may say something like this, as they safely place the book out of the reach of children:

"Rovelli may be a brilliant physicist. But in other realms, he seems hopeless, perhaps a bit lost."

In our view, it's premature to quit on Rovelli's book on page 3. At what page is all hope lost?

In our view, all hope is lost by page 12. Tomorrow, we'll visit that planet.

Tomorrow: Time to move on

For lovers of foolishness only: Part 1 of Rovelli's book starts on page 9. It's preceded by six pages of pompous piffle from which today's excerpt was drawn.

Luckily, Rovelli's pages are very short. Thanks to Penguin Random House Canada, you can read pages 1-6 here.

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  1. "Wonder is the source of our desire for knowledge?"
    "Impossibly, the endnote sources this air-filled claim to Aristotle's Metaphysics I.2.982—and no, we aren't making that up!"

    Aristotle:

    "For it is owing to their
    wonder that men both now begin and at first began to philosophize;
    they wondered originally at the obvious difficulties, then advanced
    little by little and stated difficulties about the greater matters,
    e.g. about the phenomena of the moon and those of the sun and of the stars, and about the genesis of the universe. And a man who is puzzled and wonders thinks himself ignorant (whence even the lover of myth is in a sense a lover of Wisdom, for the myth is composed of wonders); therefore since they philosophized order to escape from ignorance, evidently they were pursuing science in order to know, and not for any utilitarian end."

    https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancient/aristotle-metaphysics.txt

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    1. pompous piffle

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    2. @AnonymousJuly 10, 2018 at 12:27 PM

      Whether or not you find it pompous, Aristotle said it.

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    3. I make no judgement of Aristotle, was playfully poking fun at B Somerby's use of the phrase.

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    4. I'm through messin' around.

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    5. You're through all right. Pack up your stuff and get out - you're fired!

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    6. Not exactly what Aristotle said. He said a desire to philosophize comes from wonder. It would seem to me that a fair amount of knowledge is more practically based. That is I desire to know where to get some food, not because of my sense of wonder, but because of my hunger. I want to know how to make refrigerators and ice in order to preserve food and to get cold drinks and maybe even a little ice cream, not because I wonder how refrigeration works.

      But really, it is a bit of a throw away line, and not something that his thesis is based on. As such, is it really worth arguing about?

      Somerby presents it as one example of perhaps a number of fairly empty statements such as the bit about "listening to the passage of time".

      Having read the first six pages, it did not seem particularly bad or incomprehensible, unless perhaps, one is a philosopher. As I read somewhere, philosophers kick a bunch of dust into the air and then complain that they cannot see.

      Kinda hard to believe that was 6 pages, when it seemed like two. He says that some conceptions of time have been proven false. I'd like to see the proof.

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    7. No, he used a contraction. There's promise.

      Leroy

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  3. "in the wake of Mr. Trump's War"

    Promises, promises, dear Bob. At long last, where is this Glorious War? I'm thoroughly disappointed.

    But I still do expect a fascist takeover that you used to predict every day. Any time now. As your zombie cult is getting more desperate, that particular prediction may very well materialize. The Enemies of The People and Democracy-Undermining Foreign Agents are not going to crush themselves, y'know...

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    1. fascist takeover

      We're already there, Boris.

      This president is an autocrat. He is not a small-d democrat. He doesn’t believe in liberal democracy. And what we’re seeing here every day are five behaviors. One, he incites fervor in a base through constant lying. Two, he scapegoats minority populations and he affixes blame for complex problems to them and them alone. Three, he alleges conspiracies that are hidden and nefarious and linked to those scapegoated populations. Four, he spreads a sense of victimizations among those fervent supporters. And five, he asserts the need to exert heretofore unprecedented power to protect his victim class from the conspiracies and the scapegoated populations. Through all of history, you understand totalitarianism, you understand how democracies fall. You will find those five behaviors. Political strategist Steve Schmidt, who worked for George W. Bush and John McCain

      Enjoy, fuckface.


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    2. mm - so now you turn to the man who brought the world Sarah Palin to help you understand politics? Truly, how long are going to play the fool?

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    3. 5:26: Is there anything in that list articulated by Steve Schmidt that you disagree with?

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    4. A couple things about time is that a) people often think they can predict the future, and b) the fear of the future often reduces the pleasure of the present.

      Some events are fairly predictable though. If, for example I douse some paper with gasoline and throw a lighted match on it, I can predict that my house is going to burn down.

      Other times, the worry turns out to be baseless.

      Only time will tell.

      I observe that we seem to have elements in our society. People who make their living stirring up fear and hate based on politics. Partly that is the basis of politics. The Obama campaign, for example, used to send me letters telling me to be afraid of Republicans getting elected and to please send them lots of my money in order to prevent such a dire happening from happening.

      As Obama is now a multi-millionaire, perhaps I should write him a letter asking for my $50 back. Not holding my breath.

      I look forward to seven years from now, when Trump is no longer President and my liberal friends will swear that the current President, if he happens to be Republican, is the most vile person on the face of the planet and is going to kill us all. Even now they seem to embrace the once and former Bushler in order to throw shade on Trump.

      Of course, I may not live that long after Trump takes away my health care. I feel bad anyway about asking the taxpayers to subsidize my health care, and it seems even more unfair if they are doing it while I am retired.

      But I also really want to retire. I predict that I will enjoy that future.

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    6. Dr. T:

      Frank Herbert once wrote that the future can influence the past. I couldn’t find the quote, it’s buried somewhere in the Dune series.

      I suppose what he meant is that the future is already predetermined on the universal scale. All observable matter in the universe is rapidly expanding – some say eventually it will approach the speed of light – away from itself, resulting eventually in heat death. Because of dark energy, dark matter, who the hell knows?

      The cosmos will have expanded to a wisp of cinders. In that sense, if the scientific prophecy is true, than the future seems to hold some sway over the present. But certainly not, I believe, at our current level of existence.

      Take the taxpayer dollar, sounds like you’re one of them. Meanwhile, if we soaked the rich, we could have universal healthcare, which should include comprehensive family planning, and free college education. And the nearly 600 billionaires in this country will have more than they could ever spend in 20 lifetimes after they’re taxed fairly.

      That’s my optimistic view, which runs squarely into reality. However, I think the future does inform our present, even at this level. Like bacteria reproducing in a half-full bottle of discarded Coca Cola (h/t K.C. Cole, “The Universe and the Teacup”) the science indicates to me that we’re doomed. It’s our much nearer future, totally predictable, and there doesn’t seem to be anything we can do about it. The difference is “we” “can” do something about it, but we are too many, and cannot find enough common ground in time to save ourselves.

      Sorry, been drinking again. Didn’t mean to sound so pessimistic. Can’t wait to retire myself. I mean, enjoy my life after years of hard work.

      Leroy

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  5. Bob's critiques of philosophy books are some of my favorite fare here.

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    1. "Surely, the gods on Olympus roar when mortals read that endnote. We'll guess that, in their future caves, future anthropologists default to sullen thousand-yard stares."

      Me too.

      Leroy

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    2. Of course, the point of Rovelli's book is to grapple with the problematical aspects that post-relativity physics have given to our ordinary understanding of the concept of "time." Is it intuitive, for example, that "moving clocks run slow?" Not really, but that is one of the verified predictions of Einstein.

      Did Somerby read past the first 12 pages? Who knows. Perhaps Rovelli's book is indeed lousy. But Somerby seems unwilling to even entertain its premise. He does not show a particularly "philosophical" attitude here, and yet that was his college major. He seems more interested in a kind of know-nothing rejection of philosophical speculation as stupid and lacking common sense, the same anti-intellectual elitism exhibited by conservatives.

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  6. Jonathan Livingston Seagull is the worst book ever written.

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  7. Memory is constructed. It is not a tape recording or any kind of recording of actual events or experiences. You can remember things that never happened. You can feel like something you never experienced before is familiar to you. Events that are routine can feel new. Memory can be disconnected to events such that anything can be remembered. And if that is true, why cannot the future be remembered and the past forgotten? But Somerby doesn't understand this constructed property of memory so he treats Rovelli's questions as if they don't make sense.

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  8. Next stop on the 8:36 to Looneytopia 'Memory is elective'.

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  9. Egghead Philosophers stand accused of being "liberal" and acting "superior." They shall be placed in the dock and made to answer those charges. We aren't real sure the Inquisition didn't have it right; the Heretics caused their own burnings at the stake.

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    1. The accusation is being stupid while acting superior. Leftists are guilty, not so much liberals.

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  13. This is my testimony about the good work of Dr Paul who help me.... I'm Katherine from usa. And am sorry for putting this on net but i will have to by this world top spell caster that brought back my husband which left me out for past 3 years, i eventually met this man on a blog site posting by one of is client for help, i explained everything to him and he told me about a spell caster that he had heard about and he gave me an email address to write to the spell caster to tell him my problems. In just 2 days, my husband was back to me. I just want to say thank you to this truthful and sincere spell caster, sir all you told have come to pass and thank you sir. Please i want to tell everyone who is looking for any solution to problem, i advice you to kindly consult this spell caster, he is real,he is powerful and whatever the spell caster tell is what will happen, because all what the spell caster told me came to pass. You can kindly contact him on: his email address is astoriashrine@gmail.com or directly on whasapp +2349051441669

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  14. Breaking up or Divorcing is not a solution to solve your Marriage problems (dr.atakumaoracle@outlook.com) is certainly the best, and his result is 100% guarantee. My Husband is back home now and we are joyfully living together as one good family and i thank the powerful spell caster called Dr. Atakuma, He is so powerful and reliable to help reunite broken families, homes, marriages with his spell and i decided to share my story on the the whole wide world that good spell casters still exist and Dr Atakuma is one of the best spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of troubles and needs, My Husband now love me more than before and he no longer cheat on me for 3 years now. With the help of Dr Atakuma, If you need a spell caster that can cast a spell for to help you reunite your Marriages,relationship kindly contact Dr Atakuma Via his emails (dr.atakumaoracle@outlook.com) You Can Also call Him or Add Him On Whats-app: +2348115696180 contact him and see him help you out regards

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  15. Grace is my name and I am one of the persons that have benefited from Dr.UZOYA Love Spell. Dr.UZOYA appeared in the middle of my life when all hope was lost. I gave up on life and thought the best way to cure my broken heart was to take my life after I tried several processes and traveled to India seeking for spell to reunite with my husband who dumped me after three years of our marriage for another lady but none of my effort worked. I made up my mind to continue with my suicide plan before a strange spirit came over me like a rain and ministered to me to search on-line after seeing so much talks about Dr.UZOYA Love Temple. I reluctantly searched and found amazing testimonies and recommendations about him which encouraged me to contact him via his email. He replied and asked me to wipe away my tears and quit any act to take my life; he said that my case is solvable after consulting his Oracle. Well, here I am today thanking Dr,UZOYA for saving my life and bringing back my Husband. We are so happy today and happier than we have ever been. I am so grateful for being among the people sharing this testimony and Dr.UZOYA telephone number is +13019098775 OR email him on; [driraborspellcaster@gmail.com]

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  16. My name is Jenny Floreess, I never thought I will smile again, My husband left me with two kids for one year, All effort to bring him back failed I thought I'm not going to see him again not until I met a lady called Jesse who told me about a spell caster called Dr. ocusodo, She gave me his email address and mobile number and I contacted him and he assured me that within 48hours my husband will come back to me, In less than 48hours my husband came back started begging for forgiveness saying it is the devils work, so I'm still surprise till now about this miracle,i couldn't conceive but as soon as the spell was cast,i became pregnant and gave birth to my third child,if you need any assistance from him you can contact him via:email: drocusodospellcaster@gmail.com or drocusodospellcaster@yahoo.com
    WhatsApp or call him now: +2349067457724

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  17. How i get my divoce husband back again with the good help of Dr. Odinani Owelle powerful love spell...My name is Lizzy Frank. When i read a testimony online on how Dr.Odinani Owelle the great and most powerful spell caster help to bring back Divorce husband or wife EX LOVER. I was wondering how can this be true, Because many has failed me in the past without any result from them. I just let the post pass by and move on the forum. To my notice under again, Some person posted and said tested and trusted spell caster. After reading through the mail it was this same man Dr. Owelle she was talking about. So i have no other option than to really check up how he works.I was totally devastated when my beloved husband left me. It was like my entire world vanishing into sorrow and pain. I know it sounds weird but out of all the spell casters I contacted, he was the only one to give me that impression of being so true and trustful. More than his words,He brought my husband back and he made all my wishes come true. He is now loyal, pays attention to me, he offers me flowers every Sunday, and we often go out at the cinema and the restaurant. my husband came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my family are living together happily again.. I will be forever thankful for turning my life from hell to heaven! i believe who need help should get to him for help. May God continue to use you to save broken relationship. To every one with marital problem, divorce issues, lost lover or any relationship related issues, you can contact Dr. Odinanai Owelle the ultimate spell caster via email address: odinanisolutioncentre@gmail.com.

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  18. It’s no secret that a man’s ego has a powerful pull on him.

    In fact this hardwired need to impress and to WIN is so deeply embedded into the male mind...

    That nearly everything a man truly desires is based around this biological “drive” to prove, succeed and to win.

    It’s why so many men become workaholics, gym junkies or become obsessed with their hobbies.

    But what most women don’t know...

    ...is how deeply this “drive” is connected to his love, desire, and attraction for the woman in his life.

    And I’m about to show you how you can “tap into” a man’s ege to refocus that same drive and gut level obsession...

    ...on pleasing you, romancing you, and proving his love for you like you’re his sole purpose in life.

    Here’s how: ==> The “Game ON!” Signal That Makes Him Obsessed With Winning Your Love ]

    Ana

    P.S. When you tap into a man’s ego this way, you can cause him to literally become obsessed with proving his love for you. So please don’t use this on a man unless you are ready for something serious.

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  19. TO ALL WOMEN OUT THERE GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES IN MARRIAGE READ THIS ARTICLE AND
    CONTACT DR. OLU TO SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE.

    I want to say a very big thanks to Dr OLU for the wonderful work he did for me in helping me to save my marriage, my husband ask for a divorce letter because of the little misunderstanding we had in the past few month, And i never wanted this because i love my husband so much and all our investment was a joint business and i don't want to be far away from my family and my two lovely kids. My friend told me about Dr OLU and how he also helped her with her marital issues, so i had to contact him because i want to stop my husband from completing the divorce letter and i want to keep my family together and after contacting him, i was told what i needed to do and when i was going to start seeing the result, I did as Dr. OLU has instructed and after 3 days my Husband call me and start asking for my forgiveness and it was all like a dream to me and we are all living happily together again all thanks to Dr OLU. Contact Him today for marital help via his Whatsapp number: +2348067704010 or call him.
    Email: drolusolutiontemple11@gmail.com or drolusolutiontemple@yahoo.com
    Also read more about him via his blog page: https://drolutemple1.blogspot.com

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  20. My ex-boyfriend dumped me one week ago after I accused him of seeing someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don't know what to do, so I reach to the Internet for help and I saw a testimony of how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 2 days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my ex came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank you Dr Landy. You are truly talented and gifted. Email; landylovespell@gmail.com or landylovespell@yahoo.com WhatsApp +2347053160384 is the only answer. He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man?

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  21. I am out here to speed this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex Husband back.. I was separate with my husband for the pass 6 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 3 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back my Husband and i then come across Dr. Isikolo i saw a comment about Dr. Isikolo how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told me that we need to buy some items for the spell to work for me for good and which i sensed the money to him after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we back again as one family for any one that may need the help of the great spell caster you can contact: isikolosolutionhome@gmail.com call or Whatsapp or Viber him on +2348133261196

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