Vanessa Friedman speaks for "us!"

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2020

Now they've even got Gupta: It's been a while since we visited the New York Times' reimagined page A3 (print editions only). 

Today, A3's daily "Of Interest" feature lists seven "noteworthy facts" from the Times. Below, you see three of the seven entries:

Of Interest
NOTEWORTHY FACTS FROM TODAY'S PAPER

Roving Blazers has rereleased Princess Diana's famous black sheep sweater. Even at a cost of $295, it's available for order only and won't arrive until January at the earliest

Walmart operates six stories in Vermont.

Rihanna's Fenty Beauty makeup line generated as estimated $570 million in revenue in its first 15 months.

Such is the persistent culture of this dimwitted upper-class newspaper. So much to learn about, and yet so little time!

The noteworthy facts about Diana's sweater trace to an analysis piece by fashion editor Vanessa Friedman. Online, Friedman's report appears beneath these headlines:

Why Do We Care So Much About Diana’s Dresses? 
“The Crown,” Season 4, has raised the question again. The answer may not be what you expect.

"Right now, understandably, we can’t get enough of such vicarious fashion exposition, given our loungewear-limned reality," Friedman thoughtfully writes, adopting the "national we." Did we mention the  fact that Diana's famous black sweater won't arrive until January at the earliest?

Such foppishness is par for the course at this Hamptons-based newspaper. What we didn't expect is what we saw on CNN last night.

Sanjay Gupta was speaking with Anderson Cooper. In our view, Gupta's reporting on the pandemic has consistently been superb.

Cable news has come up with quite a few outstanding, and outstandingly sane, public health/medical specialists. We'd put Gupta high on that list. 

We think Gupta has been superb. Last night, even Gupta said this:

COOPER (11/18/20): I just want to get both your reactions tonight on this horrific milestone. A quarter of a million people in this country have died now. And the numbers are going up. Sanjay.

GUPTA: Yes, I mean that and counting, right? I mean, this is a milestone, but we blow by these milestones. And it's really sad. Anderson, it's I mean, it's really dispiriting. 

I mean, no matter how you look at it, I didn't really think we would get to this number. But here we are, and so many of the deaths that we talked about were preventable. And I know those families who watch your program every night who've lost loved ones, they don't like to hear that their loved ones death was preventable. But, you know, so many of these deaths were preventable. 

And if you look at the death rate in the United States, and you compare it to other countries around the world, I mean, we have the most deaths. We have the most deaths. I never imagined that the best we would be able to do in this country was to be the worst in the world. And yet, here we are.

As Gupta spoke, a graphic appeared showing the total number of deaths to date for the five "countries with most deaths." And it's true! The United States has recorded more deaths from coronavirus than any other country in the world.

The United States also has the world's third largest population. Beyond that, "deaths" and "death rate" are two different critters. 

Newsflash! When it comes to our current daily/weekly "death rate," we are nowhere near the worst in the world. If you simply click this link, you'll see a graphic by Kevin Drum which illustrates this amazingly simple point. 

After adjusting for population, our current daily/weekly death rate is dwarfed by those of Belgium, Switzerland, Italy, France, Portugal, Austria, the United Kingdom and Spain, among others. And Drum is merely comparing our current daily/weekly death rate to those of countries in Europe.

All of us are living inside a highly illiterate culture. Gupta's highly familiar remark, delivered from the top of the mainstream press corps, displayed a type of statistical illiteracy which is stunningly widespread.

There are certain kinds of financial comparisons which make no sense unless you adjust for inflation. Similarly, there are certain kinds of transnational comparisons which make no sense unless you adjust for the size of various countries' populations.

In the current circumstance, the children love to announce that we're the worst in the world. Even Our Own Rhodes Scholar persistently, dumbly does this.

We're silly and stupid and nobody likes us. Also, Princess Diana's famous sweater won't arrive till next year!


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  1. Does Somerby imagine that it is any comfort at all, to someone who has lost a loved one to a preventable death, that the US has a lower death rate than Belgium?

    What is wrong with Somerby! This is the way Trump thinks, not the way a feeling human being responds to loss.

    Somerby has no basis for calling people from the Hamptons (or anywhere else) dumb, when he cannot understand what death means to grieving people. And the NY Times is the paper of record for a community that was especially hard hit at the beginning of the pandemic. No "transnational comparison" makes sense under such circumstances.

    And once again, Somerby mocks the news items that are of interest to women and those in the fashion industry (which just happens to be a mainstay of New York's economy). These news items may not concern Somerby, but that doesn't mean the interest shown in them by others is wrong, or signals the downfall of civilization. Does Somerby realize that they are emphasizing the January delivery date so no one will buy a sweater as a Christmas gift, then be disappointed when it doesn't arrive on time?

    Somerby appears incapable of the slightest shred of empathy or imagination. I suspect he was dropped on his head while a baby, much like Donald Trump was.

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  2. I hope people will notice that of all the countries listed on Drum's chart of deaths per 1,000,000, Sweden, which did not lock down is next to the bottom.

    It's awful that 250K people have died with--not necessarily of--the Covid, but that's not the question we should be asking. The question we should be asking is how many people have actually been saved by locking down and at what cost, very much including future.

    There is video from early in the pandemic of Dr Fauci mocking the effectiveness of mask wearing. Now, the very same guy is saying we'll probably have to keep wearing them after a vaccine has developed, unless we're in the throes of a Tinder encounter, in which case wearing a condom may be considered at least somewhat advisable. What a doof.

    I'm with Lionel Shriver; when the history of this period is written, the most likely title will be "What Were They Thinking?"

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    1. Cumulative deaths per million:
      Denmark: 133
      Sweden: 626

      Yeah, really. What were they thinking, brainiac?

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    2. Even though the Swedish Government never declared an official lockdown, they did not simply go about their business as if nothing was happening.
      From Medpage today: "Swedes in general have changed their behavior to a great extent during the pandemic and the practice of social distancing as well as physical distancing in public places and at work has been widespread," said Maria Furberg, MD, PhD, an infectious diseases expert at Umea University Hospital in northeastern Sweden.

      "During the months of March to early June, all shops were practically empty, people stopped dining with friends, and families stopped seeing even their closest relatives," Furberg told MedPage Today. "A lock-down could not have been more effective. Handwashing, excessive use of hand sanitizers, and staying home at the first sign of a cold became the new normal very quickly."
      There were lots of other mitigations taken into account as well such as limiting the size of groups and indoor dining.
      Also, I assume there were no motorcycle rallies with hundreds of thousands of people, and they did not have a president running around the country holding super-spreader rallies.

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    3. "how many people have actually been saved by locking down and at what cost"

      How do you value a life? Is part of the cost what that person invented or discovered? Is it the lives that person nurtured? Is it the joy others took in knowing that person? What is the cost of a life?

      Ask David in Calif. He has the actuarial formulae for attributing dollar amounts to people's lives. I consider each life precious and those taken before their time, to be impermissible losses. Math like yours leads to the killing of disabled people in the hospitals because the Nazi's considered them worthless, a drain on society and the economy. This is the line Somerby treads too, the Republican calculus that says why bother shutting down the spreading businesses when the lives saved cannot contribute enough to redeem the investment.

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    4. The ultimate cause of death is life. The sophistry of the phrase "dying with covid" instead of "of covid" is medically nonsense, a political construction to justify ignoring the well-being of those with health issues. When covid instigates a health crisis involving complications that wouldn't have endangered a person's life otherwise, that person is dying of covid. This odd language is Trump's invention -- he wishes to only count the covid deaths for people with no other health issues whatsoever. Very few are in that category after age 60.

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    5. mh, you literally cherry picked the one country on the chart that had better results than Sweden, which ignoring all the other ones that engaged in lockdown but had far worse results. That ain't honest.

      Alkleem1951, people were able to decide for themselves how to behave rather than being the objects of authoritarian fiat. That's extremely important. In the meantime they achieved herd immunity to the first wave and have only a modest bump in mortality with the new one. Would I like to live in Sweden right about now.

      Anonymous 5:57, it's fashionable to say that all life is precious but some life is more precious than others. I'm 66 with some serious comorbidities. If I croak I won't be missing all that much. But if we wind up crashing the economy so that the future of a 22 y.o. equivalent of me becomes blighted it seems to me that that's probably the greater tragedy. The UN published a study which claimed to show that the economic damage so far is likely to cause a huge famine in Africa that could kill 100+ million people. Then there are cancers that aren't being treated, heart attacks ditto, deaths due to suicide, substance abuse, domestic violence and then there's the tendency of depressions to leads to wars. They also tend to cause a loss of life.

      Also, men have sacrificed their lives in war to preserve our freedoms. I'm fine with risking mine in the face of Covid to keep the government out of the habit of fucking with my constitutional rights. Makes a shit ton more sense than getting shipped to Vietnam.

      Anonymous 6:02 The distinction between dying of Covid as opposed to with is neither sophistry or nonsense. If a person has no to mild symptoms and dies of something else they should not be listed as a Covid death, as seems to have become a practice. In Florida a guy who was technically infected died when he crashed his motorcycle was listed as a Covid death. That should give any reasonable person an idea of how sloppy the delineation has become. Yes, I'm sure Covid exacerbates other serious medical conditions as well but since there is no obvious connection between locking down and improved results you really have to ask what's the point.

      BTW invoking Trump is stupid. It does nothing to advance your argument and just needlessly pulls in partisan politics where it doesn't belong. Trump's a jerk but he's got nothing to do with this particular end of the issue.

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    6. Sweden’s death rate per capita is ten times that of Norway and nearly five times that of Denmark. The health minister emphasizes that herd immunity was not their goal. Herd immunity has not been achieved there as the second wave of cases has been on a sharp upwards trajectory causing the government to issue new harsher restrictions than in the past.
      In the event that you come down with a severe case of this infection by all means avoid going to the hospital given your age and comorbidities so that first line workers can risk their lives caring for younger potentially more productive citizens, especially if your lifestyle aimed at contributing to herd immunity has landed you in that situation. Why limit your philosophy to COVID? Maybe we shouldn’t be doling out precious limited healthcare dollars to old fat diabetics who should have controlled their waistlines. And finally I trust the John’s Hopkins recording of COVID deaths more than your typical right wing motorcyclist anecdote. They do science.

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    7. HB,
      Great plan, telling those who have been left behind by the economy that now is the time for them to risk their lives to save it.
      If my boss wants me to risk my life to help his business survive, he's going to have to pay me like it's actually important to him.
      Based on what businesses are paying labor, there is no way business owners think the survival of their businesses are at all important.

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    8. Incidentally, that story about the motorcycle driver comes from a Fox affiliate and was debunked: leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/07/fact-check-Florida-motorcycle-death-is-not-undermining-state-COVID-data.html
      Fox, of all places. Who would have guessed?

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    9. Incidentally, a board member of Newscorp the parent company of Fox resigned his post last summer, later stating in an interview that he could no longer participate on the board of a company whose business model is disseminating misinformation. That was James Murdoch, Rupert’s son. But go ahead and use Fox as a primary news source, since it caters to your world view. What will now follow is a disingenuous disclaimer from Braintree.

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  3. If you look closely at Drum’s chart, you’ll see that every country with a daily death rate higher than ours on the right hand side of the chart (ie the most current data) had a lower daily death rate than the US on the left hand side of the chart, which begins around the beginning of September. Every one.

    The chart shows the recent spike in cases. It is disingenuous for Somerby to use this as a way of comparing our performance to theirs when Cooper and Gupta were talking about cumulative deaths, not current daily rates.

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  4. Why shouldn’t a newspaper report on all aspects of society?

    Rihanna’s makeup: Fashion is big business. People up and down the income spectrum and across the political spectrum care about it. Why shouldn’t it get reported on? Somerby almost seems like a snob with his disdain of something that millions of people care about.

    Does Somerby object to the massive amount of space devoted to sports? Or are sports not a sign of foppishness?

    How does the number of Wal Marts in Vermont represent foppishness? It’s doubtful that the citizens of Vermont see it that way.

    The Diana sweater is something of a luxury item. Luxury goods are an important segment of the economy. Why shouldn’t there be a report about them? Just because I don’t intend to buy such a sweater doesn’t mean there isn’t something interesting about it.

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  5. around 3.5% of the country have knowingly been infected. Of those, 250,000 have died. This is a gargantuan number for an infectious disease in nine months of spread, especially in a developed economy.

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  6. When Reaganite insanity (now called Neoliberalism) took over the USA in 1981, the corporate-owned mass media became the enforcer of its dogmas. A principal one is that the government is evil if it tries to do anything beyond protecting and enhancing the wealth and power of the corporate sector and the super-rich who own it. For four decades, the corporate mass-media (and corporate-owned politicians) have told the people that they should not expect the government to do anything for them. They should expect no help or even basic competence from it, beyond making wars and policing and jailing capitalism’s victims.

    So, of course, the corporate mass media will never give us any useful information comparing the USA with more civilized countries of the world. Their goal is to leave the American population in a state of helpless confusion.

    The message to average Americans from this country’s owners is this:

    Shut-up and work for forty years at subsistence-level wages while we take all the profits of your labor. Hopefully, before you enter an impoverished retirement, you will die of an easily preventable illness because the healthcare we gave you was unaffordable. So meanwhile, listen to some insane preacher like Kenneth Copeland on Sunday, vote for Trump, and buy a bunch of guns to make yourself feel powerful. This corporate plan for American citizens is what passes for civilization in corporate-owned America.

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    1. Trump is far too lazy to compete with Ronald Reagan for the title of worst President in the history of the USA.
      People claiming Trump is worse, are suffering from recency bias.

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  7. Endless nattering about Diana's sweater could potentially crowd out reporting about the relative strength of the SEC.
    That's why it's dangerous.

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