An important column by Charlie Peters!

MONDAY, MARCH 6, 2017

From Krugman, a puzzling claim:
Paul Krugman makes a puzzling claim in this morning's column. First, though, let's consider yesterday's essay by Charlie Peters.

Peters was born in West Virginia—in 1926! He founded the Washington Monthly in 1969. According to the leading authority, he continued to write his "Tilting at Windmills" column until 2014.

Today, Peters is 90 years old. Yesterday, in the New York Times' Sunday Review, he published an important political memoir beneath a sad headline:

"I Remember When Appalachia Wasn’t Trump Country"

Peters discusses the political history which turned his native West Virginia from blue to red. But uh-oh! He builds his analysis around an unpleasant topic—the alleged arrogance and snobbishness of our liberal elites.

He starts in 1965, "the year everything began to change." In that year, he says we liberals began to sneer at the unwashed concerning Vietnam. What follows is hard to read, but it isn;t untrue:
PETERS (3/5/17): Opposition to the war tended to divide the country along class lines, with the college-educated elite avoiding service and the fighting and dying left to the average man.

I was against the war but worried about the class division. It seemed to me that too many members of the educated elite not only felt they were morally superior to those who supported the war but even began to feel a snobbish disdain toward the less sophisticated in matters ranging from not attending the right schools to not knowing about wine or, horror of horrors, wearing polyester suits.
Hard to read, but far from untrue.

From there, he runs through a series of topics, culminating with this:
PETERS: For me, the most maddening failure of the liberal elite was that too many of its members became indifferent to the declining share of corporate income devoted to wages. By the early 1980s, you could see clear evidence of their growing interest in accumulating wealth for themselves, of their focus on corporate profits that would pay them dividends and increase the value of their stocks; “Wall Street Week” soared to popularity on PBS—it was the “Downton Abbey” of its time. Profits have increased since 1980, yet wages have stagnated.
Oof! According to Peters, some of our leading liberals may perhaps just possibly have started to chase the greenbacks themselves! He says we increasingly haven't seemed to give a hoot about what was happening to Them, the lesser breed, Down There in the lower orders.

It seems to us there's a great deal of merit in Peters' observations. He discusses the important issues and topics which have defined American politics in the roughly fifty years since he founded the Monthly.

Concerning each topic, he says "the liberal position is on the whole the right one." But uh-oh! In every instance, he says the "snobbish disdain" of liberal elites has helped create the modern world, the one in which Donald J. Trump swept the votes of his once-liberal state, with the more liberal party's candidate telling large swaths of the electorate that they were "irredeemable" "deplorables.

(If we might borrow from Jeff Foxworthy: You may be irredeemable if...you're thinking of voting for Trump.)

We're inclined to think that Peters is right in his basic outline. We'll offer more thoughts on the topics he raises as the week proceeds. We think of that kid our freshman year (1965) disrespecting that cafeteria lady. We think of Name Withheld in South Carolina and her fascinating rage about "northern condescension" (circa 1989).

With that, we turn to Brother Krugman's column. What on earth—what in the world—led him to make these puzzling statements about the GOP's long-standing, flim-flammable pledge to replace Obamacare with something "terrific" and better?
KRUGMAN (3/6/17): The whole party, it turns out, has been faking it for years. Its leaders’ rhetoric was empty; they have no idea how to turn their slogans into actual legislation, because they’ve never bothered to understand how anything important works.

Take the two lead items in the congressional G.O.P.’s agenda: undoing the Affordable Care Act and reforming corporate taxes. In each case Republicans seem utterly shocked to find themselves facing reality.

The story of Obamacare repeal would be funny if the health care—and, in many cases, the lives—of millions of Americans weren’t at stake.

First we had seven—seven!—years during which Republicans kept promising to offer an alternative to Obamacare any day now, but never did. Then came the months after the election, with more promises of details just around the corner.

Now there’s apparently a plan hidden somewhere in the Capitol basement. Why the secrecy? Because the Republicans have belatedly discovered what some of us tried to tell them all along: The only way to maintain coverage for the 20 million people who gained insurance thanks to Obamacare is with a plan that, surprise, looks a lot like Obamacare.
In the highlighted passages, Krugman plainly implies that Republican leaders didn't understand their rolling con of the past seven years.

According to Krugman, Republican leaders "have belatedly discovered what [people like Krugman] tried to tell them all along" about the difficulty of replacing Obamacare. They "seem utterly shocked to find themselves facing reality" about this problem, because "they’ve never bothered to understand how anything important works."

Where does this lunacy come from? In that passage, Krugman clearly says that Republican leaders didn't understand the things he's repeatedly said about Obamacare. We have no idea why he would think or say such a thing.

It's always possible that some Republican office-holders didn't (and don't) understand the nature of the problem. But why would Krugman want to vouch for their honesty as a group?

Krugman has explicitly said, for years, that Paul Ryan is a con man peddling versions of flimflam. Now, he says the Republican leadership simply didn't understand!

Moral stampedes tend to weaken the mind. When our smartest player writes this way, you can see the problems we're facing as we replace attempts at outreach with outrage and moral thunder.

Back to Charlie Peters:

Liberals need to find ways to explain topics like "repeal and replace" to the many voters we've lost. We need to tell them they've been conned by the leaders they've come to trust, and that they have a citizen's duty to consider this claim.

Alas! Those voters are disinclined to listen to us, in part because of the decades of snobbery Peters cites. If they did, they'd find us saying bewildering things like this. Who knows? Maybe Donald Trump really believed that Obama was born in Kenya!

Baseball season starts in four weeks. Seven years into this rolling con, can anyone here play this game?

Coming attraction: Way back in 2005, Krugman wrote important columns about the ridiculous per-person cost of American health care. For one example, click here.

Questions:

1) Why didn't our other liberal heroes follow Krugman's lead on this topic, which has completely disappeared from our public discourse?

2) Does their silence derive from what Peters said about their money chase?

45 comments:

  1. Note on Peters — Vietnam oppo was not based entirely on class divisions. Has he forgotten MLK's Riverside Church speech?

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    1. Hello, I am Theresa Williams After being in relationship with Anderson for years, he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4 pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem. email: drogunduspellcaster@gmail.com you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or any other Case.

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  2. Yes, liberals invented greed. Seems to me the disdain of those liberal elites began just about the time Republicans started electing out-of-work actors to high office and nominating extremists like Goldwater -- based on the chronology Peters describes.

    I disagree. I think the advent of TV revealed a disdain that has long existed in the form of class differences in the US, dating back to colonial times. But it would be very wrong to attribute disdain to those earnest union workers and civil rights supporters and the anti-war marchers or the emerging gay rights, women's rights and other identity-related organizers. When the Southern democrats fell away from the party because they couldn't support that kind of change, their guilty consciences may have felt the response as a kind of disdain for their choice. Somerby has been arguing that we need to make room in our party for the bigots again. I'm sure we would do better during elections, but at the cost of legitimizing that perspective on human relations.

    No thank you. If I wanted that, I could have become a Republican. so can the Appalachian people who feel disdain from liberal elites instead of identifying with what liberalism stands for. I'm glad they found their home with Trump.

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    1. I went the other way. I started out as a Republican with two Republican parents. Somewhere in the late 1980s we all became Democrats.

      These days though, listening to my fellow Democrats go on an on about how much they hate straight white males and seeing how very little many of them seem to care about the working poor - I wonder why.

      Why am I in this party again? If only I had kept my $40 an hour job with the MIC. Then maybe the choice would be easier between the party that only cares about rich people versus the party that only cares about non-whites.

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    2. Please quote one single liberal saying something hateful about white straight males.

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    3. There are few liberals remaining in the Democratic party. There are a few more in the Republican party.

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  3. Somerby thinks that if we tell Republicans they are being conned, they will believe us. I see no evidence to support that idea.

    Krugman is ridiculing the Republicans because the leader of their party, the President, tweeted about how difficult health care reform is, and said "who knew?". He is taking their own statements at face value.

    Krugman is not only an elite, but he deserves to show disdain for the Republicans' prize idiot. This is part of living in the reality-based world. You don't show respect for idiots and pretend they are presidential when they are not. The same applies to people from Appalachia.

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    1. We can't tell these fictional mythological reasonable republicans they are being conned else we will repel them even more for acting superior and smarter than they are, further creating a feedback loop causing them to hate is even more.

      It's a Catch-22. That's some catch, that Catch-22.

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    2. He may be saying something much more reasonable. If we tell Republicans they are being conned they are more likely to listen to us than if we tell them they are racist morons.

      But dammit, it's hard to be humble when you are as great as I am.

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    3. OK, Doc, you be sure to let us know how it works out.

      Go ahead, start with our reliable resident warped troll, DinC. Go ahead, tell him he's being conned.

      I keep repeating, I don't live in a sealed cocoon. I actually know and work with these damn fools. And I can tell you with certainty that if I tried to have a conversation with any of them telling them they are being conned, it's going to get pretty damn loud, pretty damn fast.

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    4. It may be hard to win people over when you think of them as "damn fools" or "warped trolls."

      Just because one person or half a dozen cannot be won over, does not mean all 63 million cannot be.

      It's possible we are just getting out-spent rather than out-messaged, but so many times I hear our message (or see the attitude of our messengers) and think to myself "maybe we don't deserve to win."

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    5. You seem to be confused. I am not trying to win these nasty people over. I want nothing to do with. There's something seriously wrong with these people and I intend to stay as far away possible from them. They're not welcome in my home.
      There hatred for us has been brewing for a very long time, it's going to take decades for this to change. I'm too old to worry about it. But go ahead, knock yourself out.

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    6. Dr. T, Hillary had more money than Trump and she stayed reasonable to the end. It didn't do her a bit of good. Many of us tried to do exactly what you say during the past election. You saw the result. Somerby, in his deluded way, mistakes the things we say in our frustration to each other, for the things we say to our friends and neighbors. We canvassed our hearts out. We talked reason to friends. It didn't work. So telling us to do it again, or do more of it, or to stop being nasty (when we weren't to begin with) is misguided.

      Somerby should know better. His strawman about liberal behavior doesn't fit anyone I know. I wish he would stop it because it is making me angry and adding injury to an election that took the heart out of many of us.

      I realize he is doing the Bernie dance. I can barely stand to be among my friends who are convinced Bernie would have beat Trump and we just didn't do it right. That is Somerby's point here. He wants us to believe liberals are evil, washed up, and don't know how to win an election, because an old slob like Bernie sold them pie in the sky. They are one step away from Trump supporters and not any nicer, in my opinion. Try reasoning with them, why don't you?

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    7. It might not fit anyone you know but it fit your candidate to a tee. Google "deplorables speech" and "nasty women" for clues.

      Bernie would have had a better chance.

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    8. "He may be saying something much more reasonable. If we tell Republicans they are being conned they are more likely to listen to us than if we tell them they are racist morons."

      They aren't going to listen to you in either case. "Racist" has lost its luster because Republicans don't give you any moral authority so your insults are meaningless. Conned won't work because almost all of them know exactly how believable Trump is or isn't on any given campaign promise. "Wall" means stepping up border controls, period. You are too far from getting it to ever come close to figuring out how to change minds.

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  4. I remember when the whole South wasn't Trump country. I wonder what happened? Maybe we should compete for that good ole KKK vote? If we just let go of our disdain for people who like sugar in their iced tea.

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    1. It's those moral evangelicals. We need to appeal to them by nominating a vulgar lying pervert, married three times to imported eastern European eye candy gold diggers, who brags about sexual molestation and peeping at underage girls undressing at beauty pageants who uses profanity in his speeches and suggests assassinating his opponent, with a history of defrauding hard working Americans.

      When you look at it that way, it is quite understandable why we never had a chance with these holy roller moral majority evangelical snake handlers.

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    2. Oh, I forgot one. Insult the military every chance you get. Insult former or current POW's, lie about your fundraising for military, call the generals stupid, repeatedly insult our military by calling them losers.

      That is the kind of thing that is certain to attract the white southern vote, as we know how patriotic they are and how much they love the armed forces. You can tell by the ubiquitous confederate flags on the back of their pickups.

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    3. Your colorful commentary is admittedly funny, mm, but it's inaccurate and only effective in helping Trump.

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    4. It only helps Trump because it's spot-on.

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  5. Yes, the college elite that avoided the draft like George W. Bush and Dan Quayle.

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  6. Hillary Clinton showed sufficient respect for Appalachia that she told prospective voters that the coal industry was not coming back, but that she would help them find other jobs. They rejected her in favor of the lies told by Trump. And now we are told that it is our disdain for Appalachia that caused them to go for Trump! I'm so confused.

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    1. but at least they get to watch the bastard mentally unstable unhinged lying lunatic fly down to Florida every Friday afternoon to suck up some more taxpayer dollars at his hideous golf resort and play golf. they love that, bigly.

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  7. We're not snobs. It's just that they are stupid and we are better. Period. End of sentence.

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    1. You can say "they are stupid" without saying "we are better". We may be stupid in different ways. There are no perfect humans.

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    2. It's just that you're stupid but also conceited. Which makes you worse than only stupid. Which makes them better.

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  8. When it comes to healthcare, the biggest liar wins. ObamaCare was based on lies about keeping one's insurance and doctor and saving $2500 per year. Trump now lies by claiming that this plan can be replaced by something less expensive that provides better coverage. Because the entire debate is so dishonest, we're likely to wind up with a poor health care plan.

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    1. The idea that ACA is not saving money is wrong. It is saving money for providers. The people buying insurance are largely having their increased premiums offset by increased subsidies. There are some exceptions but these blanket complaints are wrong.

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    2. fuck you comrade DinC. Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw.

      Republicans have now shown their plan. Number one issue is giving a tax break to CEO's making over $500000 per year. Because we know fucking PissBoy Trump promised that right?
      Next we see they will tax people who receive their insurance through their employer will now have that benefit taxed. Good fucking god you goddamned hypocrite.

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    3. Never let the lying troll D in C frame an issue without challenge. He has been caught spreading lies and diverting the discussion with wingnut disinformation. He’s a master troll from Koch headquarters.

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    4. Serial liars like D in C should be banned. But Bob apparently likes Bill O'Liarly. Then says he cares about our discourse. This article is worthy of days of discussion but Bob diverts back to nonsense topics after a few hours. How does this help our discourse?

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    5. Keep DavidinCal here.
      Let's make him explain the Republican's ACA replacement, while also telling us how the Republican Party is not really an organization of assholes. Some times, great things happen when people reach for the impossible.

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    6. People listen, Obama DID NOT lie "about keeping one's insurance and doctor and saving $2500 per year."

      First, the savings are real:

      https://www.brookings.edu/research/affordable-care-act-premiums-are-lower-than-you-think/

      And importantly, all health plans prior to the ACA being passed were grandfathered in. All. Grandfathered. There were no lies:

      http://www.eoionline.org/blog/dean-baker-obamacare-isnt-cancelling-your-plan-your-insurance-company-is/

      The one being dishonest here is David. Why?

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  10. "Everything began to change" in 1965? Hmm, I wonder what laws may have passed that year ...

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  11. Issues that didn’t even exist when JFK stood on that chair in 1960 and asked the poor people of West Virginia to make him president: Gun control, gay rights, environment, abortion/women’s rights. All four of those work against Democrats in heavily white fundamentalist Christian rural areas. But instead, you’re going to chalk the changes up to something as nebulous as “snobbish disdain!’’

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    I'm so excited my broken Marriage has been restored and my husband is back after a breakup, After 2 years of marriage, me and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me and moved to California to be with another woman. i felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a (Love spell) for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much, So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and the kids. Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before,All thanks to Dr Unity. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr Unity real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster now. Here’s his contact: Email him at: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com ,you can
    also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348071622464 ,
    his website:http://unityspelltemple.yolasite.com .
    Jessica, 26 years, Texas, USA.

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  16. My name is loveth anetor I live
    in California
    THE GREAT dr alexzanderhightemple BROUGHT
    MY HUSBAND BACK TO ME IN
    JUST A ONE DAY.
    i got married 4months ago. My
    husband and I have been
    living a very happy and lovely
    life. So as time went on, I
    began to notice this strange
    attitude that he was
    possessing. He was now going
    out with other girls, to the
    extent that he was no longer
    picking up my calls, and he
    was not even sleeping in my
    house anymore. I became
    confused and didn't know what
    to do anymore. So i
    became worried and stranded,
    that brought so many
    thoughts into my mind, because I
    have never experienced
    a thing like this before in my life.
    So I decided to visit a spell
    caster, to see if he can help
    me out. So immediately I went
    to the internet, where I
    saw an amazing testimony of a
    spell caster who brought
    someone's ex lover back,so I
    contacted him immediately
    and I explained to him all my
    problems and he told me
    that it will be very easy for him
    to solve, compare to the
    ones he has done before. And he
    also gave me some
    proof to be really sure of her
    work, and he assured me
    that my husband will come back
    to me immediately after
    he is through with the spell
    casting. And also he told me
    to put all my trust in him and I
    really obeyed him.
    So it was 8:00 am on the next
    morning, when I was about
    going to work, when i received
    my husband's call, and he
    told me that he was coming back
    home, and he apologized
    to me, and told me that he is
    very sorry for the pain that
    he has cost me. And after some
    hours later, he really came
    back home, and that was how we
    continued our marriage
    with lots of love and happiness,
    and our love was now
    stronger than how it were
    before.
    And these great man also told
    me that once my heart
    desire has been granted unto me
    that i should go and
    testify of his work right here on
    the internet. Right now I
    am the happiest woman on earth
    today as I am writing
    this testimony, and I want to
    really thank
    dr alexzander for
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    husband, and for bringing joy and
    love to my family.so you
    all there having dificulties or the
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    So my greatest advice for you
    out there who your husband
    or your wife is acting strange or
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  17. My wife is back!!!
    My name is Albert Brown. I had a problem with my wife six months ago,which lead to us going apart. When she broke up with me,i was no longer myself,I felt so empty inside. Until a friend of mine told me about a spell caster that helped in same problem too, that she found on Web page. i emailed the spell caster and I told him my problem and I did what he asked me to briefly To cut the long story short,before i knew what was happening,not up to 48 hours,my wife text me and said she wanted to come back and so she came back to me and told me she was sorry about what has happened, she now tell me every time and every day that she loves and miss me. I'm so grateful to this great spell caster Dr Noble and i will not stop publishing his name on the Internet just for the good work he has done. If you need any help you can contact this great man he will help you any any way you want, you can email him at templeofjoyandprosperity@gmail.com i guarantee you that he will also help you okay

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  18. Hey guys, Get your ex back fast with the help of a real and genuine spell caster called Dr.Unity.
    I'm so excited my broken Marriage has been restored and my husband is back after a breakup, After 2 years of marriage, me and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me and moved to California to be with another woman. i felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a (Love spell) for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much, So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and the kids. Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before,All thanks to Dr Unity. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr Unity real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster now. Here’s his contact: Email him at: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com ,you can
    also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348071622464 ,
    his website:http://unityspelltemple.yolasite.com .
    Jessica, 26 years, Texas, USA.

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  19. Hi, my husband and I have been together 17 years are married for 5, I recently had a one night stand with a man and I told my husband about it, he basically said ok we will get through this, a week later I found out that for months he has been talking to women on adult chat rooms, I’m upset about this and now we keep arguing over everything that’s happened. I suggested counselling but he won’t go, last night he said he can’t get passed this and wants a divorce, I love him very much and I want to stay with him, we have 2 children ages 7 and 5 and I know their hearts will break. We also own 2 businesses together and I don’t want things to get messy. Please give advice, I don’t know what to do anymore. basically and recently i found out about a love site on how to stop marriage divorce and get your husband back fix up your broken relationship, coz some many have testify about this love site created by Dr happy the spell caster which i also contacted about my marriage with my husband trying to get me divorce so i sent him an email regarding my problem with my husband so he gave me the best assurance that i will have my husband back, to love and to cherish me more forever i never believe in this coz it was my first time so i put all faith in him and god so the next day after the spell, my husband call and come back home with some surprise gift, and go down on his ness apology and feel so sorry about the past and how he treated me. my husband is madly in love with me again all grateful and thankful to Dr happy the indeed he is a genuine spellcaster.contact him via happylovespell2@gmail.com
    web site http://happyspelltemple.webs.com/
    Call him, whatassp also on +2348133873774

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