Selective quotation all the way down!

FRIDAY, MARCH 3, 2017

The night the change locked into place:
Last night, it seemed to us that it had finally happened.

Cable seemed partisan all the way down. We felt we saw nothing else.

On CNN and MSNBC, the stars were chasing Sessions around. Virtually every factual statement was being tilted in pursuit of desired outcomes. We thought we saw nothing else, in a way we felt we'd never seen before.

Lawrence said some of the dumbest things. A long stretch of work by Good Lawrence seemed to give way last night. Bad Lawrence reappeared.

Beyond that, let's discuss doctored quotation.

The pundits were all chasing Sessions around, insisting that he lied. Insisting that he'd lied under oath! That can send you to jail!

Did Sessions lie under oath? For ourselves, we aren't hugely inclined to judge that he did. That said, we also aren't hugely inclined to try to send people to jail.

Such assessments must start with fair quotation, of course. And good God! Aside from gong shows like Patrick's Leahy's gong-show account of what he asked Sessions, we've been struck by the selective quotation going on all over the world.

In this fiery essay at Slate, Michelle Goldberg quotes one part of what Sessions said to Al Franken during his Senate hearing. The part she quotes seems quite selective. She doesn't quote Franken at all.

In videotape on today's Morning Joe, the program presented one small part of what Franken said to Sessions. This program wastes time for three hours each day. But they chose to chop Franken's question was down, tilting the scales as to what Sessions was asked.

In this editorial in the Washington Post, the editors pull one lone sentence out of Sessions' reply to Franken. Franken isn't quoted at all. This is a very poor way to pursue criminal claims, except when the chimps are running wild in the streets and the scripts are coming from Kafka.

What did Franken say to Sessions? What did Sessions say in reply? Below, for the very first time, you'll see the text of the full exchange! Everyone else has been showing you the tiny fragments which will serve their side.

Sessions' confirmation hearing in the Senate occurred on January 10. Let's start with a bit of background:

Rather late in the session, Franken had been asking Sessions about the recent report in which the Director of National Intelligence stated, "We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election."

"You said earlier that you accept the FBI's conclusion," Franken said. Sessions didn't challenge that statement, but said he couldn't discuss President Trump's assessment.

Franken then asked about a new report by CNN, a report which had just appeared that day. This was the report about the British dossier with exciting charges about the Russians Trump.

Franken assumed that Sessions hadn't seen the brand new report. The following exchange ensued. In the past day, you've been seeing carefully-selected shards of this exchange:
FRANKEN (1/10/17): OK. CNN has just published a story—and I'm telling you this about a news story that's just been published. I'm not expecting you to know whether or not it's true or not.

But CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that, quote, "Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump." These documents also allegedly say, quote, "There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government."

Now again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so—you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious, and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

SESSIONS: Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have, did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it.
Sessions was asked about "a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government." He was told that, if the claim about the surrogates and the intermediaries was true, it was "obviously extremely serious."

Within that ominous framework, he was asked what he would do if it turned out that "anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign."

Presumably, these ominous claims were new to Sessions, and they arrived in a jumble. CNN's report, which Franken childishly called a "story," had just appeared that day.

Given this framework, we're not super-concerned by the way Sessions answered. It may be that he was attempting to conceal information about his September 2016 meeting with the Russian ambassador. But when he said he wasn't "aware of of any of those activities," it may be he was simply saying that he hadn't taken part in an "extremely serious" "continuing exchange of information with intermediaries of the Russian government" and didn't know of anyone else who had.

He may have thought he was being asked about the types of "obviously extremely serious continuing exchanges" he had just heard described. Indeed, that seemed to be what Franken was asking about. He didn't seem to be asking about routine exchanges which weren't "extremely serious."

Was Sessions trying to conceal his meeting with Kislyak? It's possible; it's also possible that he wasn't. What is clear is the fact that Democrats never asked him if he had engaged in any meetings with Russian "intermediaries," except in the follow-up question by Leahy, which Leahy flatly misdescribed on CNN yesterday morning.

(To state the obvious, Leahy misdescribed his question in a way which made it sound moire incriminating for Sessions. This is the way these horrible 78-year-old children play.)

In our view, it's time for the doddering Leahy to go. For what it's worth, this was Franken's follow-up exchange with Sessions during the actual hearing:
FRANKEN (continuing directly): Very well. Without divulging sensitive information, do you know about this, or know what compromising personal and financial information the Russians claim to have?

SESSIONS: Senator Franken, allegations get made about candidates all the time and they've been made about president-elect Trump a lot sometimes. Most of them, virtually all of them, have been proven to be exaggerated and untrue. I would just say to you that I have no information about this matter. I have not been in on the classified briefings and I'm not a member of the intelligence committee, and I'm just not able to give you any comment on it at this time.

FRANKEN: OK. Totally fair.
You've been seeing many doctored excerpts from this exchange. You've seen the usual chimps pulling the tiniest possible fragments from that exchange, trying to make the exchange look as bad as possible for whoever their target may be.

Dems and liberals have fared very poorly in previous stampedes of this type. But now that the rope is in our hands, we're chasing our target around the square, pretending to be upright.

We aren't upright. We also aren't real competent.

Last night, we saw a truly ridiculous set of claims made by Lawrence O'Donnell. On the Maddow Show, we saw an astounding presentation in which Michael Beschloss expounded on the greatness of the "special prosecutor" route.

Gone were decades of agreement about the pitfalls of special prosecutors. Maddow, of course, seems to know even less than the average orangutan about the politics of the 1990s, the period in which almost everyone came to agree that the special prosecutor system is loaded with pitfalls. A pleasing conversation ensued, dedicated to the proposition that Maddow's viewers were born some time last week.

The children are running wild in the streets. These episodes rarely serve the public interest. The recent history also says that these episodes tend to turn out poorly for the more liberal party.

Last night, it seemed that all pretense was gone. The chimps and the children were running wild. If only by way of comparison, we almost thought the chimps and the children were making Sessions look good. Final point—this is the way that exchange went, if you trust the shards of that exchange you're shown in the mainstream press:
FRANKEN: If there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

SESSIONS: I did not have communications with the Russians.
Inanely, that's the exchange which is being described in the "mainstream press." That account of what Sessions said is the stand-alone quote in today's editorial in the Washington Post.

Did Sessions lie to Franken that day? In our view, only a nation of children and chimps would want to insist that he did.

That said, your nation is that nation. It has been that nation for a long time. Have you heard about the Clintons' murders? About Candidate Gore's many lies?

Goldberg writes her novel: Over at Slate, Goldberg was imagining what must have been discussed between Sessions and the ambassador.

When the chimps and the children start playing these games, it's time for them to go:
GOLDBERG (3/2/17): If Sessions was taken aback by Franken’s question, he should have had time to compose himself before Sen. Patrick Leahy submitted a similar query in writing seven days later. “Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?” Leahy asked. This time Sessions gave a one word answer: “No.” When the Washington Post’s story came out on Wednesday night, Sessions released a statement saying he “never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign.” The word “to” is doing a lot of work here. Even if you believe that the meeting wasn’t set up in order to discuss the campaign, it seems inconceivable that campaign issues didn’t come up. Sessions himself didn’t exactly deny this at Thursday’s press conference: “Most of these ambassadors are pretty gossipy, and this was in the campaign season, but I don’t recall any specific political discussions.”
"It seems inconceivable that campaign issues didn’t come up!" In this act of imagining what must have been said, Goldberg channels yesterday's performance by the hapless Leahy himself.

Pitiful, horrible, low-IQ, dumb? What's the word a fair person would choose to describe such bald-faced novelization?

You aren't well served by players like this. In the pursuit of good jobs at good pay, they've been killing your interests for years.

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  2. Wait a minute. If what you've posted here is accurate, what was being asked and what was being answered? On what planet does this exchange-

    "...if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

    SESSIONS: Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have, did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it."

    ...constitute a question and an answer? The question "what would you do?" seems straight forward enough. He's asking would you, as attorney general, investigate these charges?
    But the answer is evasion and denial- even as Franken was careful to phrase his question to give Sessions the easiest of hypothetical outs. He could simply have replied "If these charges hold water I would investigate the matter," and be done with it.
    The evasion and denial turned out to be a much more telling answer. The fact that it also included what might be called the denial of a very narrow understanding of the phrase "communications with the Russians" makes it more revealing, not less.

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    1. Because his college roomie was once accused of serial exxageration Bob seems to feel the need to rush to the defense of any pol accused of lying.

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  3. Recent behaviour by the media pertaining both to Russia and Mr Sessions has now passed through "pearl clutching" and hysteria and has gone over to "wilding"

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    1. zzzzzzzzz..... wake me up when we can see President Shithead's tax returns....

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    2. Good word for it. Voters know it's a witch hunt. Trump will never be popular but he will be reelected.

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    3. "Voters know it's a witch hunt."

      They will after the 8 investigations exonerate the Trump Administration of wrong-doing. Just like the 8 investigations into Hillary Clinton exonerated her of any wrong-doing.

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  4. Megan McArdle has a lengthy column explaining why Sessions didn't commit perjury. Here's part of it:

    Now, I don’t know whether Sessions has been in contact with Russian officials or not about the election; neither the senator nor Kislyak have chosen to confide this information to me. But let’s assume for the nonce that he wasn’t. Was his response to Patrick Leahy’s letter reasonable? Eminently. It is reasonable even if, in the course of a meeting on some other topic, the ambassador idly asked how the campaign was going....

    Franken offered a lengthy preamble suggesting that the Trump campaign had been exchanging information with the Russians, then asked him what he’d do if there was information that someone in the Trump campaign had communicated with the Russians. In the time-honored tradition of congressional hearings, Sessions said he hadn’t had any such communications, had no knowledge of such communications, and therefore wouldn’t speculate about the hypothetical.

    If you read the latter part of this exchange extremely strictly, chopping off the preamble, then you can argue that Sessions was technically untruthful. The problem is that this is not how verbal communication works. The left is attempting to hold the attorney general to a standard of precision that is appropriate for written communication, where we can reflect on preceding context and choose exactly the right word.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-02/did-sessions-commit-perjury-let-s-talk-it-out

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    1. Perjury is a narrow legal definition of a crime. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that Sessions lied, is still lying and will be punished politically for it. He will most likely be asked to resign by Trump when he becomes such a liability that he must be thrown under the bus. That's the way these things happen -- not legal prosecutions.

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    2. David I would not put too much stock in anything coming from disgraced libertarian Megan McArdle. She is a mindless Ayn Rand groupie who was wrong on the automotive bailout, wrong on ACA, even got caught promoting falsehoods about pharmaceuticals. She is a mess, a rudderless sinking boat. "for the nonce", really? I thought you people hated "elitists". I will grant you, there is nothing truly elite about Megan McArdle.

      Megan's premise that she uses to reach her conclusion is that we assume Sessions is innocent. Ha! Sure thing. She argues like a typical Republican operative clown; if we assume no bad behavior then there was no bad behavior. Nothing to see here, do not question our fearless leader, Megan says, echoing creepy Stephen Miller:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-tFMZZ620c

      Ironic since she did not hold Hillary to the same standard she wants to apply to Sessions:

      http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/MeganMcArdle/hillary-clinton-server-mistake-email/2016/05/26/id/730821/

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    3. "f you read the latter part of this exchange extremely strictly, chopping off the preamble, then you can argue that Sessions was technically untruthful. The problem is that this is not how verbal communication works."
      She's right. This is not how verbal communications work. The more I consider the odd response to Franken's question (see my post above) the more I come to believe that smartypants was leading Sessions to make an "admission" without having to make an accusation.
      It's the old "me thinks thou dost protest too much", not about Sessions truthfulness. It served the purpose- outing the truth- very adroitly.
      I'm no fan of Franken, but I'm pretty sure this was a win for him. He was fishing, and he landed a big one.

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    4. ...and also, that the "prize" was not to deny Sessions his confirmation- which was unlikely- but to prevent him from stonewalling an investigation of these matters. Nice piece of work.

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  5. “In our view, the modern-day Democratic Party is involved in similar conduct. We've increasingly shown that we can't win elections or convince the public concerning our basic beliefs. So we pray instead for the chance to get our rivals locked up” writes Bob.

    No doubt. Republicans have tried it, Democrats have tried it, but it always ends up a fiasco. Hey… Let’s get the “media” on our side!

    So is the mainstream media on the Democrats’ side? Of course not, they’re simply chasing scandal to up their ratings. They’re just filler for advertising, masterfully employed by Trump in the gd, effing four-year election cycle.

    Hey, maybe they’re trying to bite back at Trump! He’s so mean to them.

    Oddly enough, just like Bob.

    They’re both right, of course, to be mean. The pabulum that is our modern-day main-stream media exposed here every day is worthy of contempt.
    And Trump is like any other politician, he doesn’t want scrutiny – poor as it is – so he’s being pre-emptive by employing the “mainstream media is all lies” thing, since the Republicans have been so successful in describing it that way.

    Much like Bob.

    Trump is right, in the wrong way – sort of like Tea-Partiers. I think Bob is right in the right way. The media has failed us lo these many years, and we are the poorer for it.

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  6. Mr. Somerby seems to have left out (oversight, perhaps?) the flat-out lie, in response to another Franken question:"do you know of any member of the campaign meeting with the Russians?" to which now-AG Sessions responded, "No". note, Sen. Franken didn't ask what might have been discussed at any meeting, just asked if they'd met. AG Sessions, by his own admission, did meet with members of the Russian gov't, at least twice. the first time, they appear to have bumped into each other at the GOP convention, chatted for a few moments, then went on. probably asked about the wife and kids. the second time was an actual meeting, at which we have no idea what was discussed. however, what was discussed is actually irrelevant to the question at hand, which was, did they have any meetings with Russian officials, during the campaign?, not what did they discuss at said meetings. it's now obvious that then Sen. Sessions told Sen. Franken a bald faced lie, when he responded to that question.

    why this seems unclear to Mr. Somerby is a question only he can answer. maybe, he isn't aware of the question/answer? maybe, he doesn't think it's important, though why he would think that is a mystery. the fact remains, now AG Sessions did, most emphatically, lie to Sen. Franken, under oath, during his confirmation hearing. nothing Mr. Somerby can say will change that.

    before you accuse others of "selective quotationing", you should review your own first.

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    1. I think Sessions weasels out of this "lie" because of the "members of the campaign" part of the question. He claims that he was not, at the time he met with the Russians, a member of the campaign, and he could deny knowing about any other meetings.

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    2. Liv,

      No, that is bullshit. He most certainly was a surrogate for the campaign.

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  8. Bob is not the only one asking this question...

    https://twitter.com/StephensWSJ/status/838238819656826880

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  9. Bob Somerby, just come out as the conservative Republican you really are. All, and I mean ALL your bile is reserved for our so-called liberals on tv. It's often entertaining.

    Hey Bob Somerby- why is it that you NEVER EVER say a word about Fox News? You NEVER say anything about that egregious propaganda channel. No, you prefer to shoot fish in a barrel. Maybe your attacks on "liberal" channels would have more weight if you occasionally got off your ass and critiqued the horrendous right-wing channels like Fox News.

    But you never, ever do that, Bob. You never say a word about Fox News. Why is that? You love to mangle Rachel and Lawrence O'Donnell if they misstep or say the wrong thing, but you never ever manage to mention the gigantic channel pumping right-wing propaganda into our lives every hour of every day. Why do you never ever mention Fox News, Bob?

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    1. If you have read this blog over the years, you would know that Bob has criticized people on Fox News. Please stop posting nonsense in this blog's comment section.

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    2. bob has criticized fox news plenty over the years, you should read the incomparable archives...

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  13. My wife is back!!!
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  14. MUST READ: HOW I GOT MY HUSBAND BACK
    It's a privilege to share this miraculous testimony to the world. My husband divorced me 9 months back and i have been filled with remorse for i didn't know what to do to amend issues with my husband. I searched for help on the internet on how i could get help in my marriage and i discovered great testifiers about Prophet Lucky who has been progressive with his spells. I got in touch with him and behold, Prophet Lucky told me that he will prepare a spell for me that will bring back my husband. I was skeptical but i had no other option but to work with him. 2 days after, my husband called me that he's coming back home and from that day till this moment, we have been living peacefully. He is back now with so much love and caring. today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the powers of bring lovers back because i am now happy with my husband and the most amazing thing is that our love is very strong,every day is happiness and joy and there is nothing like been with the man you love. I will highly recommend Prophet Lucky to anyone one out there who needs help whatsoever If you have any problem contact Prophet Lucky, i give you 100% guarantee that he will help you!!. Prophet Lucky contact is below:
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  16. Hello, my name is Laura Woods, i was going through an article and found out about a man called Dr Akpabio. i have been suffering from breakup issues with different guys. i had to contact the spell caster. Steve was on the verge of leaving me for another woman. but i stayed positive and believed i could have him back and make him stay. lo and behold Dr Akpabio helped me. Steve and i are back together. Dr Akpabio is such a nice man, he also helped me with my health problems. Thanks to him and thanks to God for the gift given to him. If you have any problem whatsoever, contact him on this email: drakpabioosulalaspells@gmail.com

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  17. With the help of a man called Dr.Addo I was able to get pregnant though his root and herbs. I'm 47years of age, it was really difficult for me to pregnant though my husband loves me but it was really hurting me not having my own child but after many years I came across Dr.Addo whose email address is ( addosolution@gmail.com ) he gave me Root and herbs and I was pregnant a week after i his help. I'm 7months pregnant now and also I will like to advice everyone looking for help to get pregnant to contact this very man via his email address: ( addosolution@gmail.com )

    from CANADA

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  19. I contact Dr.Agbazara when i had of him and This was even faster than I could dream of. Thank you for taking time to listen to me and answering all my emails Dr.Agbazara. I feel emotional strong again. My confidence is back and I can see my future clearly now. I am forever grateful for your help in re-uniting me with my lover who divorced and left me years ago for another woman. you will see for your self what am saying when you contact this great spell caster called Dr.Agbazara on for any help at: ( agbazara@gmail.com ) OR call or add on WHATSAPP: +2348104102662 ) and get your problems solved.

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  20. My name is Wilson Moore from UK, I want to quickly tell the world that there is a real on line spell caster that is powerful and genuine, His name is DR OBED He helped me recently to reunite my relationship with my husband who left me and my kids, When i contacted DR OBED he cast a love spell for me and my husband who said he doesn't have anything to do with me and his children again called me and started begging me. he is back now with so much love and caring. today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the powers to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. To anyone who is reading this article and needs any help, DR OBED can also offer any types of help like Reuniting of marriage and relationship, Curing of all types of Diseases, Court Cases, Pregnancy Spell, Spiritual protection and lot's more. You can contact him Via this email drobedspelltemple@hotmail.com.............

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