Otherwise, huge win for Trump: Is the White House Correspondents Association the most cluelesss group on the planet?
They've been undermining themselves in this way ever since Don Imus. And that was 1996, several years ago.
When they decided to hire Michelle Wolf, they handed a big gigantic political win to the current president, Donald J. Trump. Everybody on earth can see this, except 1) the White House Correspondents Association and 2) an amazingly large number of us the hapless liberals.
We just ran through the transcript of Wolf's jokes. She managed to get off a few that weren't built around her own p*ssy, her own small t*ts, images of herself jerking off or getting f*cked, the presence or absence of Paul Ryan's b*lls or comparisons of Ivanka Trump to 1) used tampons or 2) fully loaded diapers.
Pedophiles and porn floated in and out. We'll guess that people thought she attacked Sarah Huckabee Sanders' appearance because, like us, they thought she said that Sanders burns a lot of "fat," not a lot of "facts."
People like Wolf are deeply underformed. An amazing number of us the liberals are completely unable to see that. This is part of the reason why it's all anthropology now. Increasingly, it's clear that we the people lack the intelligence to maintain a viable modern democracy, especially in the wake of the three tribal technologies—talk radio, the Internet (including social media) and partisan "cable news."
Wolf did get off a few real jokes—jokes that didn't turn on audience startle reactions. She even told a joke that was amazing in that it advanced a novel observation concerning the world we're all stuck in:
WOLF (4/28/18): There's a ton of news right now; a lot is going on, and we have all these 24-hour news networks, and we could be covering everything. But, instead, we're covering like three topics. Every hour, it's Trump, Russia, Hillary and a panel of four people who remind you why you don't go home for Thanksgiving.Admittedly, she didn't have a punch line to go with that novel premise. But people, that's what we've been saying, again and again and again! We now have "24-hour news"—but it's all about one (profit-yielding) topic!
That bit of observational humor turned on an actual observation, one you rarely hear expressed. If not for all the talk about her own p*ssy and her t*ts, people somewhere might have heard what she said.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep; Wolf is profoundly underformed. That said, the question which arose last night involves the White House Correspondents:
Donald J. Trump got a huge win last night. Their own reputation was badly damaged.
They've been doing this to themselves since Imus! How many times does this have to occur before these life forms catch on?
Long ago and far away: Long ago and far away, we wrote this column about the Imus appearance for the Baltimore Sun.
Twenty-two years and one month later, the life forms cast by the gods as "correspondents" still haven't quite caught on!
So, corporations*, which own the media, would rather hire someone to distract than speak truth to power.
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Did you read the transcript of Wolf's remarks? Are you aware of the reaction from journalists, and the president of the Correspondents Dinner? They seemed uncomfortable.
DeleteMost of the journalists I saw discussing Wolf's remarks from the fainting couch were totally distorting the jokes and misrepresenting what the joke was about.
DeleteFor example, take the illustrious Trump Whisperer, Maggie Haberman, WH Hack/Flack for the NY Times, who immediately jumped onto Twitter to virtually apologize to Sarah Sanders and suggest that Wolf had crossed the line by insulting Sanders' physical appearance, which couldn't have been further from the truth.
Andrea Mitchell did her one better by calling on the WHCA to issue an apology to Sanders. Mika jumped on the bandwagon as well, completely misrepresenting the nature of the jokes Wolf made about Sanders.
I watched Wolf's comedy routine. A big nothing burger blown out of proportion by Republicans just like they always do (eg. Colbert).Boo-fucking-hoo.
DeleteEven though Wolf's comedic style is on the edgy side, I thought her take on Sanders was pretty soft, considering what a rude, mendacious twit Sanders is.
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ReplyDeleteWolf lampooned some powerful people, many of whom lie to us on a daily basis. Would Somerby have been able to muster Wolf's courage? She lampooned not only politicians but journalists as well.
She roasted Trump and his minions. She also said this:
'We also have Rachel Maddow. We cannot forget about Rachel Maddow. She is the Peter Pan of MSNBC. But instead of never growing up, she never gets to the point. Watching Rachel Maddow is like going to Target. You went in for milk, but you left with shampoo, candles and the entire history of the Byzantine Empire. “I didn't need this.”'
That's funnier than anything Somerby ever said about Maddow. And less mean-spirited. And I'm pretty sure Maddow will be aware of Wolf's joke, unlike, ...well, you get the picture.
It's instructive that many journalists didn't like Wolf's performance. Why do you think that is, Bob?
Somerby continues to want liberals to silence themselves to avoid pissing someone on the other side off, but never issues the same demand to conservatives. Again, he wants liberals to self-censor out of some sense of political expediency, I guess.
If the journalists in that room aren't willing to speak truth to power, Bob, why do you condemn a comedian for attempting it?
Oh, and by the way, Wolf lampooned individual powerful people, members of the elite, not regular folks. But that nuance doesn't seem to matter to Somerby, who treats the Elite Others as sacred cows. Apparently, liberals aren't even allowed to attack THEM.
Anon 1:37 "It was a ROAST...what do people expect is going to happen?"
DeleteBut, it wasn't supposed to be a roast. It's official purpose was "celebrating the First Amendment.” Instead it was an attack on prominent Republicans, including a Republican woman.
You mean a verbal attack on [sic] prominent Republicans, including a Republican woman?
DeleteWhy, that's protected by the First Amendment.
Celebrate that fact, you pouty little snowflake.
Go easy on David. He's just reciting one of the conservative spin points. One of the others is - get this - the lack of civility by Democrats and liberals!
DeleteAs soon as Wolf's performance made headlines over the weekend, I knew exactly what Somerby's reaction would be. He is 100% predictable.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I missed the part in Somerby's 1996 article where it was all anthropology after Imus's monologue, that liberals were blind to how Imus's monologue would throw the election to Dole, and that Dole got a huge win that night.
DeleteHey, what did you expect, Bob? Liberals' heads exploded in the morning of 11/9/2016. Hell was full, and so they've been walking the earth ever since. Zombie jokes are incomprehensible to us, humans.
ReplyDeleteDo you comprehend this: "It is kind of crazy that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia when the Hillary campaign wasn't even in contact with Michigan. It's a direct flight; it's so close."
DeleteBob, you didn't like her performance, so Wolf is "underformed?" Warning to other lesser humans: if Bob (a fully-formed being, no doubt) dislikes you or your public statements, he will accuse you of being
ReplyDelete"underformed." Is that anything like being an "Untermensch?"
I had the same reaction to "underformed?" It's a weird choice of words; I could understand using under informed. Is underformed even a legitimate word? Did he mean she was deformed?
DeleteInsults are not jokes. Insults are easy -- it's what Trump does all the time - just because he does it doesn't mean it is productive for us to do it to him. Wolf can be very funny but this wasn't it. Also, just from a technical point of view she didn't set the lines up very well or deliver the punch lines like a pro would. Very disjointed performance.
ReplyDeleteInsults are what Don Rickles did, and don't forget the insult dog. Insults go back to the Greeks and Romans as comedy.
DeleteSomerby says this but doesn't even explain why he thinks it's true:
ReplyDelete"When they decided to hire Michelle Wolf, they handed a big gigantic political win to the current president, Donald J. Trump. Everybody on earth can see this, except 1) the White House Correspondents Association and 2) an amazingly large number of us the hapless liberals"
How in the hell is that supposed to help Trump?
It helps Trump because it supports his repeated accusation that the media are politically biased.
DeleteDavid - why do you think people support Trump? Why do you?
Delete"It helps Trump because it supports his repeated accusation that the media are politically biased."
DeleteNow they'll never vote for some who believes in equality of the races. And right when they were so close too.
"It helps Trump ...."
DeleteThen what are you and your fellow concern trolls whining about?
I support Trump because I think his policies are better for Americans and for the world than typical Democratic policies. Some examples
Delete-- Black and Hispanic unemployment at record lows thanks to cutting regulation a bit.
-- possible de-nuclarization of North Korea
-- Trump's harsher treatment of Palestinians is more likely to lead to peace, I would guess. Time will tell.
-- We now know that Iran has been secretly working on nuclear weapons. Obama's treaty was a big failure.
-- No Trump policy could be as foolish as overthrowing Khadafy
-- Trump correctly sees, what Europe is sadly learning, that admitting large numbers of migrants is bad for the country, virtuous though that action may be.
-- More generally, Trump sees that a country needs to be able to control its borders and define who may or may not live there.
Why do other people support Trump? The few of my acquaintances who support Trump mostly are just dyed-in-the-wool Republicans. I don't know very many Trump supporters.
"It helps Trump because it supports his repeated accusation that the media are politically biased."
DeleteYou phony - you never saw Wolfe's monologue nor did you read the transcript of it. She insulted the MEDIA and called them bloodsucking profiteers. The media - especially the bloodsuckers like Haberman, who has a book pending and needs WH access, bleated about Sanders' poor treatment. That doesn't support Trump's (and your) narrative about media bias.
Sanders was there on the stage because Trump was too thin-skinned and humorless to show. Instead, he spent the time spewing his venom against a whole plethora of people and groups in order to give his base some raw meat.
You and your aggrieved cohort continue - day in and day out - to demonstrate the futility of having civil discourse with you. Your hypocrisy invites scorn: it would be impolite to decline the invitation. To do otherwise would be rude.
" ... Black and Hispanic unemployment at record lows thanks to cutting regulation."
DeleteI remember when after only one month after being sworn in, Republicans blockaded Congressional action and started blaming President Obama for the Great Recession. The Bush Administration never existed!
Now here's the same lie with a different skin: Trump is responsible for this record low unemployment. The Obama Administration had nothing to do with it - it must be because of deregulation or something.
Here's what NPR Factcheck (1-30-18) had to say about that:
"However, that's not all Trump is doing in this tweet. He is implying that he caused these low African-American and Hispanic unemployment rates.
And a big problem with that claim is that those rates had been falling for long before Trump took office, and their declines don't appear to have picked up speed. This implies that there's nothing specific that Trump did to change this rate.
Indeed, both of these rates have been falling relatively steadily since around 2010, early in President Obama's tenure in the White House.
So have the unemployment rates for all races and ethnic groups tracked by the Labor Department. In general, these unemployment rates tend to move together. So while Trump called out the African-American and Hispanic unemployment rates, they haven't changed in any remarkable way, relative to other groups' unemployment rates."
Bookend bogus GOP baloney.
It's becoming more and more clear that Trump will be elected again in 2020 if things stay the same as they are. That is if he's not arrested or impeached or gets us gets into a futile war.
DeleteLiberals. Honestly has there ever been a more hapless group of born losers? You would think at some point they would get tired of losing.
Trolling. Honestly, has there ever been a more boring an repetitive group of pseudo-humans? You would think that at some point they would try to get a life.
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DeleteDon't change the subject man. I'm sorry to be a critical like that. But seriously, what is the strategy for Democrats? The whole strategy seems be hoping Trump is indicted!
Let's get Bernie in there. Or someone like him.
9:03
DeleteWho is the troll really? That quote is exactly something Somerby would say. It's practically the thesis of this blog.
You're not sorry to be critical like that. You're a dead-ender phony progressive troll. You guys were all over these blogs with the same schtick during the election and haven't changed your tune.
DeleteBernie lost the primary and then stepped up and supported Clinton. Instead of doing the right thing and preventing this orange turd from ruining this country, you ignored Sanders and play the blame game like a broken record.
As for Somerby's theme for this post, he's full of shit.
mm - lemmings (supposedly) run off a cliff because they think the trend of solid ground will automatically continue. But, trends do not automatically continue.
DeleteThe Obama Presidency coincided with the end of a recession and the beginning of a recovery. Thus, it was easy to get improved economic conditions during his Presidency. Also, Obama's economy ironically benefited from fracking, even though he was not an enthusiastic supporter of it, to say the least. Even so, the Obama recovery was not particularly robust, as compared with past economic recoveries.
Trump OTOH came into office near the end of the recovery. It was his policies that made the economy continue to grow and to accellerate. And, BTW, the economy has grown faster under Trump's policies than it did in the last couple of years of Obama's administration.
Without Trump's tax cut and regulatory reform, this would not have happened. Indeed, Trump's economic growth substantially exceeded the economists' projections.
“There is still a lot of thinking on the right that if big corporations are happy, they’re going to take the money they’re saving and reinvest it in American workers,” the Florida senator told the Economist in a recent interview. “In fact they bought back shares, a few gave out bonuses; there’s no evidence whatsoever that the money’s been massively poured back into the American worker.”
DeleteRepublican: Sen. Marco Rubio.
1036. You're wrong actually about every single thing you write there. And he may be full of shit but that is his theme - liberals are hapless, born losers. If someone seconds that, how are they a "troll", weirdo ?? You're paranoid and dumb. Read more. Stop watching so much tv and lapping up the same gruel from the same blogs you've been reading for decades. Read the Posssesed.
Deletemm -- look at the numbers at https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth You can see that the GNP growth in the last 4 quarters has been considerably faster than the prior couple of years. You can see that the latest quarter beat economists expectations.
Delete"-- Black and Hispanic unemployment at record lows thanks to cutting regulation a bit."
DeleteIf this were remotely true, Trump will get shellacked in the 2020 election.
David, the last quarter growth was at 2.3% annual. It is interesting that the chart you linked to stops at 2015.
DeleteHere, dumbass lying sack of shit bullshit artist, try this one.
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DeleteTrump will win again because of idiots like you 1217. I know you're doing the best with what you have though.
DeleteYou're just human.
"Trump will win again because of idiots like you 1217."
Delete1217 is a bigot, who will unapologetically vote for Trump?
Get over it. These are called "jokes". The definition of a joke is that you don't take it seriously.
ReplyDeletePosting from mom's basement, Somerby desparately clings to the rapdily vanishing group of readers who still think he has a clue.
ReplyDeleteBob,
ReplyDeleteFYI, your site has become a haven for bigots and racists.
You are their enabler.
Enjoy yourself.
They can't catch me.
Bob’s disinterest in what Trump is doing to the Country, on days like this, is barely worthy of a middle fingered salute. But for old time’s sake, I’ll give it to him.
ReplyDeleteBob's old column about the Imus-hosted WHCD has seemingly derogatory comments about the clothing of multiple candidates. I had gotten the impression, from about 4000 posts at this blog, that Bob thought comments like that were inappropriate.
ReplyDeleteSomerby Rule #3 - do as Bob says, not as he does.
DeleteGuys, guys, stop dumping on poor David in Cal.
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