How sociopathic does it have to get?

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2020

It can't get that sociopathic! Question:

How sociopathic does it have to get before we ask if it's sociopathic?

Answer:

If the conduct belongs to Donald J. Trump, it can't get that sociopathic! By the prevailing rules of the game, the press isn't going to go there.

Because we're tilling this field this week, we want to restate a point we've made in the past:

Given the primitive state of our nation's discourse, there's zero chance that our upper-end press corps, such as it is, could have conducted that conversation in a competent, useful way. 

Chaos and bedlam would have ensued.  They would have been called every name in the book. 

Rivers of crackpot pseudo-psychiatry would have emerged from the others. In our current state of cultural development—and given the state of the modern-day press corps—no such instructive conversation could ever have taken place.

We've acknowledged that problem before; we regard it as an anthropological point. Today, we'll add this thought:

It is surprising that no individual upper-end journalist has made this a hobby-horse. 

At one point, and to her vast credit, the New York Times' Jennifer Senior tried to start a discussion about the commander's psychiatric  state. 

Also, Lawrence O'Donnell has spoken with Lance Dodes on several occasions about the president's apparent psychiatric state.  

(On the down side, O'Donnell hasn't made this a regular part of the way he himself discusses Trump and his disordered behavior.)

When Mary Trump's book came along, everyone stressed the fact that she's a clinical psychologist. That said, she quickly agreed to play by the rules according to which her uncle's sociopathic behavior must be critiqued in lazier, safer ways.

Those few  attempts have been made; we especially compliment Senior. In our view, it's surprising that no one—no one at The Atlantic, let's say—has chosen to raise this obvious question in a persistent, ongoing way.

No one has stepped forward in that fairly obvious way. As a result, we have overtly sociopathic behavior occurring on a daily basis, wrapped in the sounds of silence.

This morning, Donny Deutsch offered one of his occasional analyses of his former friend and associate on Morning Joe. We'd hoped to be able to quote what he said, but the videotape hasn't been posted.

(Have you looked for MSNBC transcripts of late? This is where you now find yourself taken. Presumably, the reason for this is obvious.)

Donny Deutsch knows Donald J. Trump. Paraphrasing, Deutsch said this about what we can expect from his former friend over the next four weeks:

Deutsch said something a great deal like this:

He said we can expect to see continued attempts at personal destruction, and at national destruction.  Because the person in question holds the nuclear codes, you'd almost think that someone would be concerned about this.

How sociopathic does Trump have to get before someone interviews Bandy X. Lee? 

Answer:

He can't get that sociopathic! Upper-end scribes have made a pact. They have agreed not to discuss what everyone can see.

Everyone can see what it is. With sacred Lassie dead and gone, no one is going to speak.


20 comments:

  1. Bandy Lee has already diagnosed the President. How many times does she have to say it before Somerby realizes that her diagnosis doesn't mean a thing and has no effect on national politics? Why interview her when there is no consequence whatsoever to anything she says about Trump. His supporters don't care and Trump's detractors have already said it all, over and over. So what would be the point of interviewing Bandy Lee?

    Is there some point to making dumb remarks about Lassie, who was a pleasant dog with a dog's limited lifespan, and not sacred at all?

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  2. Calling Trump a sociopath now that he has covid seems like piling on.

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    1. Right, just like when he mocked Hillary when she had pneumonia.

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    2. https://youtu.be/M9__k6ivm7E

      Bandaid Lee x Mary Trump

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  3. "How sociopathic does it have to get?"

    Why, obviously, the closer we are to the election, the crazier your liberal-hitlerian cult is going to act, dear Bob.

    It's an agony, really. And we can't even imagine what form it's going to take when The Commander, with any luck, wins, dear Bob. But we are absolutely convinced it's going to be hilarious.

    This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.

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  4. On any day, Digby has more interesting things to say about Trump and the Republicans than Somerby does, even when quoting Bandy Lee.

    It used to be that white women voted their husbands' interests but Trump has changed that pattern. White men are continuing to vote for Trump but white women, not so much:

    "His bully act isn’t a hit with women. No doubt there are women who like a 74 year old crude brute who wears a lot of make-up and brags and whines and insults everyone constantly. We see them at the rallies. They work in the White House and run for the Senate. But it appears that their numbers are shrinking dramatically.

    The Republican party has been a macho, authoritarian party for a very long time. But Donald Trump’s cartoon caricature of masculinity finally exposed what they were about to many women who’d been hoodwinked into thinking they were at least honorable and patriotic. It’s obvious now what they really are.

    The question we really have to start asking isn’t why so many women have abandoned Trump and the Republicans but rather why so many men are sticking with him."

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  5. Somerby is under the misguided notion that the NY Times and MSNBC are significant sources of news. This is false.

    As far as destruction, Trump likely had Covid prior to the debate and purposefully tried to infect Biden. Diagnose him however you want, he is depraved and corrupt and has no business being in a public role, or frankly being outside a sanatorium or a prison.

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  6. Melania is liberal? Like Somerby perhaps.

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  7. At MSNBC it's an edict from above. To Nicole Wallace's credit, she has, at least twice, expressed frustration at not being able to state "what is so glaringly obvious." On the other hand, MSNBC has been unrelenting in stating every single way they can their disgust for the orange thing, save the "crazy" label.

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  8. Well, four years ago, if anyone else was here. Who would have thought Bob would be running the Press into the ground for NOT calling Trump nuts? How long did he carp about them calling them a liar? Heads Bob wins, tails the Press loses.

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