SOCIOPATHY AND ITS DISCONTENTS: Crazy person announces a cure!

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2020

The disordered commander's tale: Last night, Susan Page asked a surprisingly good early question.

It was her first question to Candidate Pence. The question went like this:

PAGE (/10/7/20): Thank you, Senator Harris.

Vice President Pence, more than 210,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 since February. The U.S. death toll, as a percentage of our population, is higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation on Earth. For instance, our death rate is two and a half times that of Canada, next door. 

You head the administration's coronavirus task force. Why is the U.S. death toll, as a percentage of our population, higher than that of almost every other wealthy country? And you have two minutes to respond without interruption.

It's true! After adjusting for population, our "death toll" is roughly two and a half times that of Canada.

That's true if you're measuring Total Deaths to Date. It's also true if you're measuring Current Daily or Weekly Deaths. 

(Very few journalists or major news orgs have ever explained the distinction between those two different types of "death rate." Simply put, our upper-end journalists lack any and all such skills.)

It's also true that Germany's current weekly death rate, after adjusting, is about one-fifteenth of ours. After adjusting for population, Japan's current weekly death rate is less than one-thirtieth of ours.

Let's state those numbers a different way. Our current weekly death is about fifteen times that of Germany. Our death rate thirty times that of Japan, two and a half times that of Canada.

Given the way our discourse works, we will guess that very few people have ever heard any statistics like those. Give the way our upper-end press corps works, even fewer people have ever seen a serious attempt to explain those remarkable gaps.

Page included minimal data in her first question for Pence. That said, her question took us well beyond the place where our discourse typically swells.

People are dying in this country at a rate which far exceeds the rate in Canada. In a perfectly decent first question, Page asked why that is. 

In response, Pence droned on and on, performing his standard Reagan shtick. Pence's "response" went like this:

PENCE (continuing directly): Susan, thank you. And I want to thank the Commission and the University of Utah for hosting this event. And Senator Harris, it's a privilege to be on the stage with you. 

And our nation has gone through a very challenging time this year. But I want the American people to know that from the very first day, President Donald Trump has put the health of America first. Before there were more than five cases in the United States, all people who had returned from China, President Donald Trump did what no other American president had ever done. And that was, he suspended all travel from China, the second largest economy in the world. Now, Senator Joe Biden opposed that decision. He said it was xenophobic and hysterical. But I can tell you, having led the White House coronavirus task force, that that decision alone by President Trump bought us invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War II.

And I believe it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. Because with that time, we were able to reinvent testing. More than 115 million tests had been done to date. We were able to see to the delivery of billions of supplies, so our doctors and nurses had the resources support they needed. And we began, really, before the month of February we started to develop a vaccine and to develop medicines and therapeutics that have been saving lives all along the way. And under President Trump's leadership, Operation Warp Speed, we believe we'll have literally tens of millions of doses of a vaccine before the end of this year. 

The reality is, when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot like what President Trump and I and our task force has been doing every step of the way. And quite frankly, when I look at their plan that talks about advancing testing, creating new PPE, developing a vaccine, it looks a little bit like plagiarism, which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about. 

And I think the American people know that this is a president who has put the health—

PAGE: Thank you, Vice President Pence.

PENCE: —of America first. And the American people, I believe with my heart, can be proud—

PAGE: Thank you, Vice President Pence.

PENCE: —of the sacrifices they have made. It's saved countless American lives.

Finally, the candidate stopped. At this point, Page thanked him for the third time.

Something else should perhaps be said at this juncture. As you can see from the transcript or tape, Pence hadn't said a single word in response to the question Page asked.

Forget about nations like Germany and Japan. Why is Canada's death rate so much lower than ours? 

That's the question Page had asked. Pence hadn't offered the slightest response to that actual question.

In a slightly different world, Page might have restated her question, asking again for an answer. Instead, the moderator said what's shown below. 

She thanked the candidate for the third time. As she did, she drew back the curtain on the current state of the American discourse:

PAGE (continuing directly): Thank you, Vice President Pence. Senator Harris, would you like to respond?

Pence hadn't made the slightest attempt to answer the question he'd been asked. Smiling politely, the moderator asked Candidate Harris if she'd like to respond.

So it went on this first question for Pence. So it went throughout the evening. Our assessment would be this:

Our discourse works on a very primitive level. In fairness, though she's been a major player for decades, that plainly isn't Susan Page's sole doing or fault. 

Despite the various things you may hear, our discourse is very primitive. For a more amazing example, consider the latest thing the possible sociopath said.

Donald J. Trump, who may be dying, had been banging around the White House feeling amazingly well. Finally, he released his latest videotape. 

The statement he made on the videotape recalled the failing King Lear as he wandered the moors, or perhaps the public reaction to the death of the Inka as described by Charles Mann:

TRUMP (10/7/20): Hi, perhaps you recognize me? It’s your favorite president. And I’m standing in front of the Oval Office at the White House, which is always an exciting place to be. 

I got back a day ago from Walter Reed Medical Center. I spent four days there, and didn’t have to, I could’ve stayed at the White House, but the doctors said, “Because you’re president, let’s do it.” I said, “Fine. You tell me what to do, and I’m going to listen.” These are great professionals. They’ve done a fantastic job.

And by the way, not only at Walter Reed, all over the country, we have the greatest doctors in the world, we have the greatest nurses, the greatest first responders, law enforcement, by the way, incredible, firefighters, everybody. They’re just great. We have great people. This is a great country.

But I spent four days there and I went in and I wasn’t feeling so hot, and within a very short period of time, they gave me Regeneron, it’s called Regeneron, and other things too. But I think this was the key, but they gave me Regeneron, and it was like, unbelievable. I felt good immediately. I felt as good three days ago as I do now.

So I just want to say, we have Regeneron. We have a very similar drug from Eli Lilly and they’re coming out and we’re trying to get them on an emergency basis. 

We’ve authorized it. I’ve authorized it. If you’re in the hospital and you’re feeling really bad, I think we’re going to work it so that you get them and you’re going to get them free, and especially if you’re a senior, we’re going to get you in there quick. We have hundreds of thousands of doses that are just about ready.

I have emergency use authorization, all set, and we got to get it signed now, and you’re going to get better. You’re going to get better, really fast. This is things that nobody even thought of a few months ago. The job that the scientists, the labs, everybody has done is incredible.

Then in addition to that, you have various other drugs that help a lot. But I view these, I know they call them "therapeutic," but to me it wasn’t therapeutic, it just made me better. I call that a cure. So I want to get these things done. So we have to get them done. We have to get them approved, and I want to get them to the hospitals where people are feeling badly. That’s much more important to me than the vaccine.

But on the vaccines, we have many companies that are in final stages for the vaccines, Johnson & Johnson. Moderna, Pfizer, all great companies, but many of them, and we’re going to have a great vaccine very, very shortly. I think we should have it before the election, but frankly, the politics gets involved and that’s okay, they want to play their games. It’s going to be right after the election, but we did it. Nobody else, nobody else would have been able to do it.

The FDA has acted as quickly as they’ve ever acted in history. There’s never been a time and no president has ever pushed them like I pushed them either, to be honest with you. But the FDA is approving things in a matter of weeks that used to take a matter of years. So we have these drugs, Eli Lilly, and the others that are so good.

But they are, in my opinion, remember this, they’re going to say that they’re, “therapeutic.” And I guess they are therapeutic. Some people don’t know how to define therapeutic. I view it different, it’s a cure. 

For me, I walked in, I didn’t feel good. A short 24 hours later, I was feeling great, I wanted to get out of the hospital and that’s what I want for everybody. I want everybody to be given the same treatment as your president because I feel great. I feel like perfect.

So I think this was a blessing from God that I caught it. This was a blessing in disguise. I caught it. I heard about this drug. I said, “Let me take it.” It was my suggestion. I said, “Let me take it,” and it was incredible the way it worked. 

Incredible. I think if I didn’t catch it, we’d be looking at that like a number of other drugs, but it really did a fantastic job.

I want to get for you what I got and I’m going to make it free. You’re not going to pay for it. It wasn’t your fault that this happened. It was China’s fault, and China is going to pay a big price for what they’ve done to this country. China is going to pay a big price for what they’ve done to the world. This was China’s fault, and just remember that.

So we’re going to get you the drug. It’s going to be free. We’re going to get it into the hospitals as soon as you can, as soon as we can. And you’ll see some amazing things happen because we have … our military is doing the distribution. It’s called logistics, and they deliver, hundreds of thousands of troops in a matter of days. This is easy stuff for them.

Our generals are all ready, we’re waiting for the emergency use authorization and the drug companies have just made a lot of it. So hopefully this is going to be not just a therapeutic, it’s going to be much more than a therapeutic. You’re going to get better. You’re going to get better fast, just like I did. So again, a blessing in disguise. Good luck.

The president regards the drug in question as a cure, but also as a blessing from God. Luckily, he feels perfect. Also, he's going to make it free.

By any conceivable rational standard, this badly disordered man doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about. Yesterday, he  announced a miracle cure. Earlier in the year, he had repeatedly said that the virus was going to disappear as if by magic.

Donald J. Trump is out on his feet. He's been a late-rounds Palooka, just hanging on, for a very long time now.

That said, we in our primitive discourse have had no way to discuss this obvious fact. Our press corps lacks a language for this. 

Beyond that, it's been decades since they showed an investment in telling the actual truth. Simply put, that isn't a part of their culture, and it hasn't been a key part of their culture for a very long time. 

A struggling Palooka, out on his feet, was announcing a miracle cure. Amazingly, the front-page headline in the print edition of today's New York Times tells the public this:

Trump's Claim Of Covid Cure Is Not Proven

By rational standards, the commander's claims aren't just "not proven." His claims are stone-cold crazy. His claims are transparently nuts.

The commander is basically out on his feet. He's been so for some time.

He's been making crazy claims all through the course of the year. But all the Times was able to muster was a headline saying that his claim of a miracle cure "is not proven!"

Headlines can be unfair to the text of a news report. We'd say that this headline wasn't. Haberman and Thomas lacked a language and a set of norms for reporting what had happened. These are markers of a very significant fact:

Forget the things you're constantly told (directly and indirectly). The public discourse within which we're all ensconced is that of a primitive people.

It's been developed by a Hamptons-based guild. They aren't even slightly sharp.

King Lear wandered on the moors. When the Inka died, the people continued to parade his body around.

Way back in 2017, medical specialists tried to say that the commander in chief is, or seems to be, mentally ill. They tried to say that his condition made him dangerous, that he would only get worse.

When the medical specialists did those things, the New York Times, and the rest of the guild, agreed to disappear them.

Pence refused to answer the question. "Thank you," the journalist said.

This afternoon: It's feared that Mister Trump's War is on the way, Robert Woodward has now explicitly said. 

His statement was made on today's Morning Joe.  He spoke at 7:53 A.M. Eastern. 

Mika instantly moved on. We're hoping for videotape.


42 comments:

  1. "It's true! After adjusting for population, Canada's "death toll" is roughly two and a half times ours."

    No, this is not true at all. OUR death toll is roughly two and half times theirs, not vice versa.

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    1. I think that's what Bob meant to write, he should correct it.

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    2. If he corrects it now, he'll be admitting that he does read his comments.

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    3. 1:28 PM Correlation does not imply causation.

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    4. Somerby never corrects anything. Look at his AMT fiasco.

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    5. Once Somerby wrote a Saturday morning post about how old people are depressing (or some such). I was the first commenter that day and said that as an old person, I was sorry but I didn't mean to depress anyone by being alive at my age. Somerby took down his post shortly after that. I do see cause and effect there.

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  2. "In response, Pence droned on and on, performing his standard Reagan shtick. Pence's "response" went like this:"

    And then Somerby quotes Pence's response, going on and on, way beyond what is necessary. Thus, Somerby gives wider publicity to the conservative perspective, for those who didn't watch the debate. Five paragraphs worth of propaganda, dispersed on a liberal blog. Without equal time for any rebuttal. Pence doesn't need supporters with "opponents" like Somerby, who makes sure we all get to hear again what Pence said.

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  3. It is the job of the press to report what the president says and does, not to call him a late-rounds Palooka who is out on his feet. News reports are not editorials -- and there have been plenty of political pundits who have criticized Trump on every basis. Somerby is an asshole who is calling for a biased press because he knows it will be the demise of democracy if the press behaves his way. But, like Mike Lee, Somerby doesn't seem to value democracy much.

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  4. "That's true if you're measuring Total Deaths to Date. It's also true if you're measuring Current Daily or Weekly Deaths."

    In regards to your psychotic obsession with bullshit deaths stats, dear Bob, here's one country that reported zero deaths inflicted by your God COVID: Mongolia.

    Never mind that you can hardly walk the streets of ulaanbaatar after dark without getting robbed, according to your logic the Mongolian government led by president Khaltmaagiin Battulga must be all total geniuses and faithful servants of your zombie cult's God COVID.

    So, why don't you demand that your cult dumps Rapist Joe and run Khaltmaagiin Battulga for president, dear Bob?

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    1. Ешь говно, тролль.

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  5. "Pence refused to answer the question. "Thank you," the journalist said."

    In a debate, the moderator is not the judge. The viewers are the judges. So, it is not the moderator's job to call the statements by the debaters non-responsive. It IS the moderator's job to hold the debaters to their time allotments and Page did a poor job of that. But again, the viewers notice this and judge accordingly.

    As usual, Republicans are claiming victory, but the polls are showing otherwise. According to polls, Harris won the debate. There is also a wide gender divide, with women put off by Pence's interruptions and patronizing, condescending tone toward Harris, and his disrespect toward Page. But even non-Republican men thought Harris won the debate.

    Somerby, of course, thinks Page was a crappy moderator. What else is new? She is female and Somerby doesn't find any women competent, especially not female journalists.

    The minute any moderator, male or female, tries to play the heavy by restricting debaters to their time limits, he or she will be called "biased" by the supporters of that candidate. That is one of the worst complaints you can make about a journalist. Over on the Republican blogs, they were upset about Page's selection, because they perceived her to be biased against Trump, before the debate began. If she tried to rein in Pence, Republicans would whine that their candidate didn't get a fair chance to answer the questions, that she was trying to make him look bad, and so on. So actual fairness in moderator was sacrificed to the perception of fairness, which is a battle you cannot win with Republicans, who complain no matter what the moderator does. Just as Somerby is doing today.

    A liberal would applaud Harris's performance. Somerby is mum. What a guy our Somerby is!

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  6. Somerby is confused. Mr. Trump's war is the war that Donald Trump Jr. started, not anything that happened during his father's reign. Anthropologists in caves attributed his rise to the help provided by Bob Somerby, Russians and Republican dispersal of weaponized covid virus via absentee ballots mailed to Democratic voters.

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  7. “Trump's Claim Of Covid Cure Is Not Proven

    By rational standards, the commander's claims aren't just "not proven." His claims are stone-cold crazy. His claims are transparently nuts.”

    I’m fairly persuaded that Trump has a personality disorder, and that he makes crazy claims and frequently lies.

    Yes, he has no real idea what he is talking about.

    But...he is specifically touting an experimental drug developed by Regeneron, which is being mentioned as a potential treatment that massively reduces the amount of virus in the body. Trials are ongoing.

    So, calling it a “cure” may be a colloquialism, or premature, and may turn out to be wrong, but it isn’t exactly crazy.

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    1. Trump is friends with the head of Regeneron and may own stock in it, for all we know.

      This is no different than selling steaks or condos or touting hydroxychloroquine.

      It isn't crazy, but it isn't presidential either.

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    2. Yes, dear mh. Unfortunately, these day dear Bob often sounds more unhinged than some of the professional dembots.

      Tsk. It's a small wonder, after his watching all that zombie garbage on TV, and reading non-stop your goebbelsian papers. Your zombie cult destroys lives. Sad.

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    3. Mao,
      Once more I have to advise you how it's done.
      FIRST you call Liberals "snowflakes". THEN you whine and cry about how the words of Liberals are so hurtful.

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    4. You are confused @1:59. Somerby is the blogger, not a commenter here.

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    5. Not confused, there was a commenter here the other day blathering nonsense about how Trump did not receive treatment available to only a few.

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  8. If Trump required Walter Reed doctors to sign NDAs last November, he has most likely required them to sign them this time too. Which would explain their inability or unwillingness to issue a meaningful statement about his health. Since we have no idea what his health status is, he can say he is "cured" and his doctors cannot contradict him.

    In the future, I will not vote for anyone for president who requires any staff member to sign an NDA for any purpose.

    Remember that Stormy Daniels sued Trump to remove an NDA. In retrospect, that was an important act challenging the ability of the president to "manage" what should be public information. Somerby mocked whoever called her a "feminist hero" but it seems to me she is a democratic hero.

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    1. Somerby, donning his Tucker Carlson hat, accused Daniels of extorting Trump to get that NDA. That is exactly what Carlson said about Karen McDougal. She sued Carlson for defamation, but the Trump appointed judge apparently felt it was AOK for a powerful media figure with millions of followers to make false charges against a relatively powerless and mostly private citizen.

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  9. You can't make this stuff up:

    https://crooksandliars.com/2020/10/rick-santorum-interrupts-sole-woman-cnn

    Rick Santorum interrupts Gloria Borger to explain why it is OK for Mike Pence to interrupt both Kamala Harris and Sue Page.

    And this is why women won't vote for Trump or Pence. Republican women have even had it with these guys.

    And that is going to cost Trump the election because you cannot lose half of your base and survive politically.

    How long will it take men to wise up? Somerby will no doubt be around tomorrow to tell us that Pence didn't really interrupt (45 times to Harris's 13, by one count) or is entitled to do so, or should be considered innocent until tried by a jury, or some similar crap.

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  10. From Rude Pundit (10/6):

    "Truculent doom gnome Ben Shapiro tweeted, "You think 2020 has seen its biggest twist? Wait until Trump develops the anti-covid serum using his own antibodies like Will Smith in 'I Am Legend,' and then wins 50 states," although he later claimed he was joking (which is what every conservative says whenever they realize exactly how deranged and dumb they sound, so kudos to wee Benjamin for his self-awareness). Donald Trump, Jr. came out of his coke-and-shame bender long enough to post a meme on Instagram that read, "Imagine this: Trump gets all better and donates his plasma to develop a corona treatment. And then all liberals will have to get vaccinated with Trump's blood." And there are other examples of the Trump blood cult revealing itself. Sure, an air of facetiousness, another tiresome "own the libs" trope, threads through them, but there's no way to separate the responses from what is an ever-growing worship of Donald Trump. "

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  11. From the latest installment of Tales of the White Working Class:

    F.B.I. Says Michigan Militia Plotted to Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/us/gretchen-whitmer-michigan-militia.html

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  12. Another story you will never heard about on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh:

    "DETROIT – Two right-wing political operatives accused of voter intimidation in Michigan have turned themselves in to authorities in Detroit, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced Thursday. Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl were to be processed Thursday morning, prior to a remote arraignment on multiple felony charges in the 36th District Court in Detroit."

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    1. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-jacob-wohl-jack-burkman-voter-suppression

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  13. From Atrios on Eschaton:

    "How they define "us" versus "them" and who gets to be above the rules and who the rules are for is a more complicated (though not that complicated) issue, but basically that's conservatism.
    White House chief of staff Mark Meadows hosted a lavish wedding for his daughter in Atlanta this May, despite a statewide order and city of Atlanta guidelines that banned gatherings of more than 10 people to prevent the spread of the deadly coronavirus."

    Rules are for suckers and losers.

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  14. From Political Wire:

    "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters that he hasn’t been to the White House since August 6 due to their handling of the coronavirus, The Hill reports.

    Said McConnell: “My impression was their approach to how to handle this was different from mine and what I insisted we do in the Senate, which was to wear a mask and practice social distancing.”

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  15. From the "These are not nice people" file:

    "Facebook announced Thursday that it removed a number [over 200] of fake accounts that the platform said were tied to a network operated on behalf of Turning Point USA, a pro-Trump conservative student organization."

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  16. A catalog of gender bias in the post-debate reviews:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-debate-performance-sexism-racism_n_5f7f0f5dc5b6a9322e243161

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  17. “While the world is transfixed by the high-stakes race to develop a COVID-19 vaccine, an equally crucial competition is heating up to produce targeted antibodies that could provide an instant immunity boost against the virus. Clinical trials of these monoclonal antibodies, which could both prevent and treat the disease, are already underway and could produce signs of efficacy in the next few months, perhaps ahead of vaccine trials. “If you were going to put your money down, you would bet that you get the answer with the monoclonal before you get the answer with a vaccine,” says Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).”
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/designer-antibodies-could-battle-covid-19-vaccines-arrive

    This refers to the drugs currently being developed and tested by Regeneron and Eli Lilly.

    Maybe it is irresponsible of Trump to tout the drugs as a cure, but Somerby seems to have banished the notion of responsibility from any discussion of Trump, preferring “nuts.”

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  22. I want to share this wonderful testimony to the Good people all over the world on how I was able to Enlarge my Penis by Dr. Aziba. I was living a shameful life from my young age, just last month as I was browsing on the internet about Penis size  and Enlargement Products, I saw a testimony of a Man called Tim James testifying of how he was able to get his penis Enlarged by Dr. Aziba and I decided to also Email Dr. Aziba for my small penis size and he quickly respond to me and gave me the normal instructions which i did and then he shipped the product to me here in the united state which i received in just 3 working days and today i am very happy because i started seeing positive changes in my penis size in just 7 days of use.  Dr Aziba herbal product is the best recommended for you and to whom ever suffering from this shame or having any other diseases as well should Contact this great herbal doctor via his Email : Priestazibasolutioncenter@gmail.com and WhatsApp Him on +2348100368288

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  23. My Dear friends online, My name is patricia jammie And I live in the USA, Texas, I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2 years ago, which led to our break up. I was not myself again, I felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worse, until a close friend of mine told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Dr balbosa.my friend gave me the courage to contact him because i have never done such a thing before in my life.. I emailed the spell caster and I told him my problem and he responded back to me within 5 hours and he assured me that my husband will come back to me and  we are going to live peacefully and happily, he gave me some instructions to do and I did what he asked  me to do. to cut the long story short. Before I knew what was happening, the next day my husband gave me a call and told me that he is coming back to me and that he is sorry for what he did to me, I was surprised and I am so happy to have him back to me. The most interesting part of the story is that I am pregnant now for  him. Thanks to Dr balbosa for this wonderful work you did  for saving my marriage and for also saving others' own too. Continue your good work, If you are interested to contact the great spell caster EMAIL address: balbosasolutionhome@gmail.com or contact him on WHATSAPP/CALL +2347048047728...GOOD LUCK

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  24. You know when someone says to you… “It will be worth the wait.? Dr Aziba came through for me after 8years of not being able to get Pregnant, I’ve been lonely, depressed and confused because watching everyone get pregnant around you & feeling tossed aside. It’s a struggle to get out of bed, a struggle to try and be happy, on a faithful day i was reading an articles about pregnancy and courses of barrenness i came across a testimony of a woman talking about Dr Aziba on how she got pregnant after using Dr Aziba herbal medicine, so i contacted him and explained my problem to him he gave me some warm advise on what to do and prepared herbal medicine which was sent to me. as i use i began to notice some things leaving my body and today I’m here with my baby BOY writing this out to y’all who can relate to this i urge you to contact Dr Aziba and i believe God will use him to wipe away your tears do not give up Dr Aziba Medicine can still do wonders, i will write out his contacts for those who still believes and trust in GOD. Contact Him Via (WhatsApp) +2348100368288 Or (Email) PRIESTAZIBASOLUTIONCENTER@GMAIL.COM God bless y’all

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  25. I want to thank Dr Emu a very powerful spell caster who help me to bring my husband back to me, few month ago i have a serious problem with my husband, to the extend that he left the house, and he started dating another woman and he stayed with the woman, i tried all i can to bring him back, but all my effort was useless until the day my friend came to my house and i told her every thing that had happened between me and my husband, then she told me of a powerful spell caster who help her when she was in the same problem I then contact Dr Emu and told him every thing and he told me not to worry my self again that my husband will come back to me after he has cast a spell on him, i thought it was a joke, after he had finish casting the spell, he told me that he had just finish casting the spell, to my greatest surprise within 48 hours, my husband really came back begging me to forgive him, if you need his help you can contact him with via email: Emutemple@gmail.com or add him up on his whatsapp +2347012841542 is willing to help any body that need his help.

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  26. I’m very excited to inform everyone that I’m completely cured from HSV1&2 recently. I have used Oregano oil, Coconut oil, Acyclovir, Valacyclovir, Famciclovir, and some other products and it’s really help during my outbreaks but I totally got cured from HSV1&2 with a strong and active herbal medicine ordered from a powerful herbalist called Dr Lucky and it completely fought the virus away my nervous system and I tested negative after 14 days of using the herbal medicine. I’m here to let everyone know that herpes virus has a complete cure, I got rid of mine with the help of Dr Lucky and his herbal exploit. Contact him via email: drluckyherbalcure@gmail.com  or WhatsApp/Call him at +2348154637647  or him facebook page; https://www.facebook.com/pg/drluckyherbalcu/about/

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  27. My name is Joel dwin  am from Texas US. I want to share a testimony of how Dr DADA herbal mixture product saves me from shame and disgrace, my penis was a big problem to me as the size was really so embarrassing,and i was also having weak erection problem. I cant make love to my wife and my penis was just too small, a full grown man like me having 4 inches penis and to worsen it i don't last in sex, i cant even last two minutes it was really a thing of shame to me. My wife was really tired of me because my sex life was very poor,she never enjoyed sex,i was always thinking and searching for solutions everywhere until when i saw a testimony of how Dr.DADA  herbal product have been helping people regarding their sex life, so i decided to give him a try and to my greatest surprise in less than one week of taking the herbs my penis grow to 8 inches i couldn't believe my eyes and as i speak now my penis is now 8 inches and i do not have week erection again. I can make love to my wife longer in bed. And my marriage is now stable,my wife now enjoy me very well in bed. You can contact him via drdadaspellhome7@gmail.com  or Whatsapp him +22367565345

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    Hello all my viewers, I am very happy for sharing this great testimonies,The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how I win the lottery euro million mega jackpot. I am a Woman who believe that one day I will win the lottery. finally my dreams came through when I email believelovespelltemple@gmail.com and tell him I need the lottery numbers. I have spend so much money on ticket just to make sure I win. But I never know that winning was so easy until the day I meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great in casting lottery spell, . so I decide to give it a try.I contacted this great Dr Believe and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers. But believe me when the draws were out I was among winners. I win 30,000 million Dollar. Dr Believe truly you are the best, all thanks to you forever

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