SATURDAY: Bruce Willis didn't know he had died!

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2024

A clash of civilizations: On Tuesday evening, Lawrence O'Donnell assured us that the Hegseth nomination was dead.

In the end, it could always turn out that Lawrence was basically right! At any rate, here's what he said, right at the start of Tuesday evening's Last Word:

O'DONNELL (12/3/24): Exactly two weeks ago, at this very hour, I had seen enough of what was happening to Matt Gaetz's nomination for attorney general in the United States Senate to declare, with confidence, right here, that Matt Gaetz would not, could not, be confirmed—wasn't going to happen. And, just two days later, Donald Trump then withdrew Matt Gaetz's nomination for attorney general.

And tonight, Pete Hegseth's confirmation for secretary of defense has now hit the same wall in the United States Senate that blocked the Gaetz nomination. Pete Hegseth is not going to be confirmed for secretary of defense. It's all over.

If we're on the same schedule we were on with the Matt Gaetz nomination, that means Donald Trump will give up on Pete Hegseth on Thursday.

To watch his fuller statement, you can just click here.

It could always turn out that Lawrence was right—that Hegseth won't be confirmed as secretary of defense. It could even turn out that Trump abandons the nomination—that no Senate hearing ever occurs.

That said, Thursday came and Thursday went and Trump didn't abandon the quest. Instead, Hegseth gave a defiant speech that day in defense of the current state of his character, and Donald J. Trump doubled down on the nomination several times the next day.

Senator Joni Ernst even seemed to suggest that the nomination could perhaps go all the way to a Senate hearing. It could turn out that Senator Ernst was backtracking from her earlier apparently negative stance, or it could always turn out that she actually wasn't.

At any rate, as of Tuesday, we Blues were doing a lot of chortling about the drunken Hegseth's plight. As of today, we'd have to say it's a possibility that he could end up being confirmed.

On Tuesday night, Lawrence seemed to be very sure about this state of affairs. That said, it's no longer clear that the Hegseth nomination is dead. This makes us recall the situation of the Bruce Willis character.

We refer to the character Willis played in the 1999 film, The Sixth Sense. The film was a major hit. It earned vast sums at the box office. It received six Oscar nominations, including a nod for Best Picture. 

The story turned on a basic fact the moviegoer only learned at the end of the film: The Bruce Willis character is no longer living—but all through the course of the film, he doesn't yet know that he's been tragically shot and killed by a deranged gunman.

Is it perhaps a bit like that for many of us in Blue America? We recently lost a presidential election. In truth, the nationwide vote was rather close. According to the Cook Report, here's where the numbers currently stand:

Nationwide popular vote (to date), 2024
Candidate Trump: 77,289,119 (49.79%)
Candidate Harris: 75,005,605 (48.32%)

For reasons we've seen no one explain, the votes keep rolling in. Given the improbable assignment facing the late-arriving Candidate Harris, the nationwide vote was remarkably close—but Candidate Trump did in fact win, and those of us in Blue America now face the possible consequences.

Do we understand the situation we're in? Quite routinely, it seems to us that we possibly don't. 

We Blues! In many respects, we now stand at the mercy of the incoming President Trump. As we understand it, that's especially true in the internation realm, but there exists a remarkable degree of peril in domestic affairs as well.

Meanwhile, the incoming president has assembled a deeply peculiar team of acolytes to assist him in his future endeavors. Matt Gaetz is gone at this point, but these vast works remain:

Acolytes and assistants, in position or merely proposed:
JD Vance
Tulsi Gabbard
Kash Patel
Robert F. Kennedy, Junior
Elon Musk
Vivek Ramaswamy
Pete Hegseth
Tucker Carlson (attacked in bed by demons)

According to Blue America's lights, that's an assembly of flyweights and crackpots. However nutty Hegseth may seem, he almost surely isn't the nuttiest person on that remarkable list.

That's the way it seems to us here in Blue America. To us, that's a gaggle of flyweights and crackpots—but over there, in much of Red America, that's a collection of visionaries and genius reformers.

(Musk's vast success in the business world lends a sheen to that aggregation. So does Kennedy's name.)

Never the twain shall meet with respect to those dueling assessments or with respect to what those people might do if they all end up in office. 

Those dueling assessments will remain—but those of us in Blue America have no real control over the ship of state at this point. It largely depends on the actions of 53 Republican senators. That includes Senator Ernst, who possibly seems to have possibly backslid a bit.

(Or not! There's no way to know at this time.)

Simply put, we're in a clash of civilizations. It isn't clear to us that some of us in Blue America understand that basic fact at this point in time.

Earlier this year, for several months, we compared this to the clash of civilizations which lay at the heart of the Iliad, the western world's first great "poem of war." 

Eventually, the siege of Troy produced that wealthy city's fall. According to Professor Knox, every citizen in Classical Greece understood what happened when that more civilized society fell before the madness which had spent ten years laying siege to its towering walls. 

The events in question aren't described in the text of the Iliad. But in his lengthy introduction to the 1990 Robert Fagles translation, Professor Knox said that every Greek citizen would have known what happened when sacred Troy finally died:

PROFESSOR KNOX (1990): The whole poem has been moving toward this duel between the two champions [Hector and Achilles], but there has never been any doubt about the outcome. The husband and father, the beloved protector of his people, the man who stands for the civilized values of the rich city, its social and religious institutions, will go down to defeat at the hands of this man who has no family, who in a private quarrel has caused the death of many of his own fellow soldiers, who now in a private quarrel thinks only of revenge...And the death of Hector seals the fate of Troy; it will fall to the Achaeans, to become the pattern for all time of the death of a city. 

The images of that night assault—the blazing palaces, the blood running in the streets, old Priam butchered at the altar, Cassandra raped in the temple, Hector's baby son thrown from the battlements, his wife Andromache dragged off to slavery—all this, foreshadowed in the Iliad, will be stamped indelibly on the consciousness of the Greeks throughout their history, immortalized in lyric poetry, in tragedy, on temple pediments and painted vases, to reinforce the stern lesson of Homer's presentation of the war: that no civilization, no matter how rich, no matter how refined, can long survive once it loses the power to meet force with equal or superior force.

In the Iliad, Troy is the more civilized of the two societies which have come into conflict. In the current situation, that's the way those of us in Blue America tend to think of ourselves.

That isn't the way we're seen or portrayed in the major warrens of Red America. Meanwhile, something else is remarkably true:

To this day, many of us in Blue America seem to have no idea why anyone would ever have voted for Red America's candidate in last month's election. It can only be because all those Others are "deeply racist," our tribunes and our commenters still frequently say and suggest.

Has there ever been a people quite as blind as we Blues seem to be? We seem to be unable to see the possible reasons for the 77.3 million votes which have created a world in a which an assembly of flyweights and nutballs may soon re-order the globe.

We can't understand the apparent absurdity of President Biden's border policy over his first 3.5 years. We can't understand the dereliction of duty involved in the president's failure to offer an explanation for that apparently inexplicable policy.

We Blues! We kept insisting that President Biden was sharp as a tack when it seemed to be fairly clear that he possibly wasn't. And our cable stars kept pursuing our dream—our dream of locking the other guy up.

As they pleasured us with that dream, they steadfastly refused to confront the forces which would inevitably move votes away from Blue America's late-arriving substitute candidate. They refused to discuss the lives of the Others. Who could possibly care about Them?

In our view, there are many aspects of our tribe's performance which likely moved votes the other way over the past many years. Many of us in Blue America seem to be completely unable to see this.

As recently as Tuesday night, we were chortling about the way the Hegseth nomination was going to swirl down the drain. Now, it seems the momentum may have changed—and awaiting us is a possible major change in the existing world order.

The Willis character didn't know he had died. We often get a similar vibe as we watch Blue America flounder. 

There are many reasons which might explain why a voter might have decided to vote against Blue America's candidate this time around. Many of us seem to be completely unable to understand that basic fact—to see ourselves as we actually are, to see ourselves as other people might conceivably see us.

Twenty-five years ago, the Bruce Willis character—a good, decent person—hadn't yet come to terms with a very significant fact. 

Are we Blues in a similar situation? Are we willfully blind concerning the ways we may, conceivably, have managed to earn our way out?


115 comments:

  1. Just the other day, Somerby said, in a post about Hegseth:

    “It also seems abundantly clear that they shouldn't be placed in high office.”

    But when other liberals and pundits express the same sentiment, he accuses them of “chortling.”

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    1. Typical Republican rules for thee but not for me.

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  2. O’Donnell got a prediction wrong (because he doesn’t control the future) and that makes the Democratic party dead. This is how Somerby reasons.

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    1. Agree, Somerby’s ability to reason is weak, likely so due to being driven by an agenda of manufacturing ignorance.

      The jury is still out on “Kill all Muslims” war hawk Hegseth.

      Weirdly, Somerby tries to claim Hegseth isn’t the nuttiest of a group of loons, yet Hegseth is a violent drunk that sexually, and otherwise, assaulted multiple women. Apparently, that’s ok by Somerby, it certainly dovetails with his history of defending those that have unhealthy attitudes towards females, particularly younger ones. Interesting.

      Faux populist Trump is bringing the swamp, filling his admin with neocons, neoliberals, unqualified clowns, corrupt corporatist cronies, and sexual predators.

      Birds of a feather flock together.

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    2. Why are you such a chickenshit who will only insinuate that Somerby is a pedophille? Why don’t you have the courage of your convictions and come right out and say it? You’re anonymous - you can spew it without paying any price!

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    3. There is no evidence that Somerby is a pedophile. There is plenty of evidence of Somerby defending Roy Moore. That isn’t an insinuation at all. I produced quotes awhile back but anyone interested can find them by searching this blog using Roy Moore’s name.

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    4. Somerby’s abrupt departure from teaching middle school after 10 years on the job might be a sort of evidence except that it coincided with the end of the Vietnam War, which he had been draft-dodging (by his own admission). Everyone considered that cover photo of young Anne Frank to be worth the price of the book. She was lovely on her way to the gas chamber.

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    5. Agree, and it’s not just Roy Moore, Somerby has been pretty open about his positive feelings towards older men going after younger women. Somerby thinks that we should not finger wag about such things, instead we should scold those that bring up how prevalent and pernicious sexism and racism are in our society.

      The “chickenshits” are those that give a pass to such behavior, from Somerby to Bill Clinton to Trump to a significant portion of Trump’s allies and cronies to Alan Dershowitz to Stephen Pinker etc on and on, notably almost exclusively all right wingers.

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    6. You’re a despicable human being.

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    7. Agree, these Somerby types, defending old men leering after young women are despicable.

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    8. No, you. If you want to call someone a pedophile, or a pedophile defender, use your name, asshole. Stand behind your bullshit insinuations.

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    9. Anonymouse 7:09pm, the end will always justify their means. They are the heroes in all their dreams.

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    10. That’s rich, after years of Repubs calling all Dems pedos.

      Whether Somerby is actively a pedo is up for debate, there’s no direct evidence.

      What’s not up for debate, is his endorsement of older men going after younger women, he’s been open about.

      This seems to be a touchy subject for you, maybe you have been accused, or maybe you’ve been a victim. Both are sad, but that doesn’t excuse your nonsensical rhetoric that comes across as defending Somerby’s disgusting views.

      It sounds like you want to meet up somewhere and duke it out!

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    11. Remember it was Trump that, even in front of children, demonstrated how to fellate a man.

      Trump was the one that expressed sexual desires towards his own daughter.

      Trump was the one giddy about seeing pageant contestants undressed, many of them underage.

      Trump was the one that sexually assaulted multiple young women, one of his accusers was 13.

      Trump was the one that partied with his buddy Epstein, approvingly noting that Epstein too like females on the younger side, and then hemmed and hawed about releasing the Epstein files.

      Birds of a feather flock together, indeed.

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    12. 7:37 - So now you’re calling me a pedophile, also without rhyme or reason. You are disgusting. You’re not a mouse, you’re a sewer rat.

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    13. No one called you a pedophile @7:57. It does sound like you’re trying to start a fight. Go back and read Somerby’s defense of Woody Allen style romances, where the man is much older and the girl is in her teens. Read his article about how the movies make such “relationships” OK by romanticizing Bogey & Bacall. “She was 17” Somerby crowed.

      I’ve been saying this stuff is disgusting for years. Where were you?

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    14. Well, yes you did insinuate that I’m a pedophile, and you’re such a chickenshit that you’re trying to walk it back rather than owning it. And no, I’m not trying to start a fight; I’m condemning you as a person. There’s a difference.

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    15. Anonymouse 1:04am, anonymices alluded to Bob being a possible pedophile and they suggested that you defend Bob against that charge because you are a pedophile too (“birds of feather).

      You were treated by anonymices in the way that was described in this statement from anonymous 4:18pm:

      “It's difficult for Democratic voters to express any criticism of the how the party operates. Legitimate concerns are met with sarcasm, ridicule and loaded insults. Bearers of these concerns are ostracized and slandered (my bold).

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    16. 8:58, this is so funny coming from the party that is talking about putting Liz Cheney on trial for treason, and is getting ready to fire a republican FBI Director in order to install a maniac with a hit list. Go fuck yourself, Cecelia. Look in the fucking mirror lady. There's plenty of debate on the progressive side. Just read comments in Kevin Drum's articles.

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    17. Anonymouse 9:14am, this is the usual level of anonymouse reasoning. Anonymices make some vicious utterly personal insult/charge (pedophilia) about Bob or a commenter and then justify it by alluding to their political party or because the commenter defended Bob.

      Yeah, you’re just a one-trick-pony political operative, but that doesn’t mean that everyone else is too.

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    18. 9:29, your reply here is your typical bullshit where you pretend to read minds. You haven't faced a single point I made. Nobody has accused TDH of being a pedophile.

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    19. 9:29. They don’t accuse; they insinuate. I might have a modicum of respect for them if they would stand up, use their names, and make a direct accusation. They’d be wrong, but at least they’d have a degree of courage. Anonymously insinuating that people sexually assault and molest children is beneath contempt.

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    20. Whatever it is that calls itself Cecelia thinks that the moniker Cecelia is an identifier of some sort. Hilarious.

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    21. Notice the anonymouse 9:57am uses the blog name in her denial rather than the actual person of Bob Somerby.

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    22. Anonymouse 11:26am, it is a nym that is in green because it’s verified. I have never changed it so you can go the archive and pull up what I’ve said.
      What’s hilarious is your attempt as an unidentifiable anonymouse to minimize MY absolute identifier.


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    23. It's important for liberals to engage in self-reflection to understand their electoral defeat and the cultural divide. There may be further adverse consequences if they don't honestly confront these realities. This involves looking at issues like border policy, President Biden's leadership, and a lack of engagement with opposing perspectives.

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    24. Anonymouse 12:05pm, the only reflection among anonymices is that everyone who didn’t vote for Comma La is a bigot regardless of their sex, race, or ethnicity.

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    25. Sex race and ethnicity do not make someone bigoted or prevent it, so yes, someone is a bigot regardless of those traits.

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    26. @12:05, Biden is not going to run again.

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    27. Cecelia is just as anonymous as others here. I suspect she is more than one person using the same nym.

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    28. Anonymouse 10:47pm, we’re legion.

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  3. “ There are many reasons which might explain why a voter might have decided to vote against Blue America's candidate this time around.”

    Somerby does not understand the stats he himself quoted. People didn’t vote against the blues (Trump didn’t increase his suporters). They stayed home and didn’t vote.

    The main group switching to Trump was male Hispanics. Is Somerby going to suggest we blues are blind to the misogyny among young men who value machismo, who liked Trump’s appeal to bros? Pwhat could Harris have done about that?

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    1. It’s not the militancy of anonymices that kept some Democratic voters from turning out to vote for Comma La. It’s that they’re bigots.

      “For reasons we've seen no one explain, the votes keep rolling in.” Really, Bob?

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    2. She could have not endorsed the policy of gender reassignment surgery for prisoners.

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    3. @12:51. She didn’t do that.

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    4. Trump implemented that policy in his first term due to court cases.

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    5. This is from Instapundit. It links to a NYT piece entitled - “How Alarmed Harris Staffers Went Rogue to Reach Black and Latino Voters”. It’s behind a firewall.

      Instapundit reports that the NYT article said that many black Comma La staffers felt disrespected by the campaign and some of them were threatened- “In an all-staff call after the election, Quentin Fulks, the principal deputy campaign manager, told staff members that talking to the press would ruin their career prospects, four people on the call said”

      These issues with minority staff’s personal complaints as to their treatment were referenced 40 paragraphs down in the NYT report.



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    6. "Blue America" failed to motivate its own voters. It has nothing to with understanding the concerns of "Red" voters. Fuckers that they are.

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    7. Anonymouse 1:02pm, Trump gained some voters from 2020, you lost them. It has to do with some concerns that are universal.

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    8. Is this a threat of a warning?
      "the principal deputy campaign manager, told staff members that talking to the press would ruin their career prospects..."
      Does the distinction matter?

      Here's a link to the NYT report. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/07/us/politics/harris-philadelphia-black-latino-voters.html

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    9. Considering demographics and population growth (the kind of thing this blog used to do when it was coherent), Trump did not gain any support, possibly lost a bit.

      Somerby’s main theses are built on erroneous assumptions; voters do not significantly switch sides and they have not for decades. Electoral politics are primarily about motivating your side to actually come out and vote, and it’s very clear from the evidence that Harris’ low turnout was due to three main reasons: lack of universal mail in ballots, sexism - and to a lesser degree racism - among Dems, and increasingly sophisticated Republican dirty tricks/voter suppression.

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    10. To clarify, Trump did not gain any support overall in the aggregate. Disaggregated, the only significant gain Trump made was with male Hispanics. Otherwise, Trump maintained or slightly lost support from his 2020 run, when he lost badly to Biden.

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    11. https://www.npr.org/2024/12/03/nx-s1-5213810/2024-presidential-election-popular-vote-trump-kamala-harris

      This says that Trump made a gain overall and this when his news coverage in 2024 was astronomically negative.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/unprecedented-positive-media-for-harris-89-negative-for-trump/ar-AA1p44yn

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    12. From Cecilia’s second link:
      “ found that 84% of the coverage of Harris has been positive, while 89% of Trump’s has been negative on CBS, NBC, and ABC.”

      How would Trump have done with balanced coverage?

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    13. It's difficult for Democratic voters to express any criticism of the how the party operates. Legitimate concerns are met with sarcasm, ridicule and loaded insults. Bearers of these concerns are ostracized and slandered. To my knowledge, there are no liberal blogs that host comment sections where one can engage in good-faith criticism and debate about how the party's actions and attitudes might contribute to political losses. Self-reflection and self-examination are not only discouraged, they’re forbidden. Such a culture is a hallmark of poor leadership and may have driven enough voters to stay home, which could have potentially swung the election to Trump.

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    14. Trump got more votes in raw numbers over 2020 (generally every subsequent election has more votes in raw numbers), but when considering demographics and population growth, at best Trump could only match his 2020 support, when he badly lost.

      Trump in 2024 could not get even 50% of those that voted, getting only about 30% of the electorate. It was a low turnout election. It’s more accurate to say Harris lost than Trump won, since he did not gain in support, but Harris lost quite a bit, with Dems staying home in high numbers.

      Additionally, the gains made with male Hispanics is only with respect to a portion of low turnout. Had the turnout been more typical, Harris may well have received the usual percentage of male Hispanics.

      There’s a consensus among many Republicans and some Dems that the negative media coverage of Trump helped his election.

      Furthermore, there is wide consensus that corporate media spent most of the campaign “sane-washing” Trump, something they did not offer up for Biden.

      Claims about positive/negative media coverage are murky and not based on science or rigorous methodology.

      As Trump pointed out, he could shoot somebody on 5th Ave and not lose a voter. Such is the psychology of Republican voters.

      Independent media, which dwarfs the views of corporate media, has been replete with criticism of establishment Dems, the DNC, etc. Harris ran essentially the same campaign as Biden, using the same staff (and all pretty much the same as Hillary Clinton). Biden won with relative ease and it’s trivial to spot the difference. Harris started her campaign offering some progressive policies but got raked over the coals in corporate media, and she then after resorted to the standard establishment Dem campaign, which works fine if your male, but otherwise, you need to offer more, and frankly, it may be quite some time before America is ready for a female Dem president. It may be more likely Republicans vote for a female president first, even though they are more sexist than Dems, they put winning above all else, since they vote on emotion.

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  4. Republicans polled the day before the election: the economy is in ruin, society is in decline

    Republicans polled the day after the election: the economy is booming, everything is fine

    In a blind poll, a majority of Republicans prefer Harris’ policies over Trump’s.

    It’s of no electoral consequence, but we in fact do understand Republican voters quite well.

    Typical of Republicans, lacking integrity is a feature, not a bug.

    Such is the power of obsession with dominance.

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  5. We get it, Bob, you are a racism denier.

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  6. My advice to Republicans, hire some bodyguards.

    It’s a new morning in America, as Republicans are “finding out”.

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    1. Anonymouse 1:46pm, as though Republicans haven’t long had your number as to guns, equity, and freedom.

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    2. We get you’re triggered Cecelia, but your comment is gibberish.

      We’ll guess the general intent was: Republican good, everyone else bad.

      Check out Australia if you want to see what happens with reasonable gun safety laws.

      1:46 seems to be pointing out the glee with which many Americans are responding to the assassination of a corporate leader, whose work resulted in untold misery.

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    3. Anonymouse 5:51pm, Americans aren’t responding “with glee” to a person who decides to make himself plaintiff, attorney, judge, and jury because he doesn’t like the way a business is legally run. Thats different from some parent trying to get their hands on a person who harmed their kid, although there should be no “glee” from that action either. That we don’t have universal health care in this country is not reason enough. Don’t even try arguing that bullshit. The same holds true for any madman who kills an abortionist or harms a pro-choice supporter who argues that a human fetus is the same as a wart. Even you don’t really want a country like that.

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    4. It may be tough for Republicans to face, but America is just fine with the United Health CEO assassination, regardless of the perpetrator’s politics or intent.

      Americans have had it with Republicans and their pro corporate stance squeezing the life out of us.

      I get it makes you uncomfortable.

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    5. Anonymouse 6:47pm, you don’t speak for Americans. You’re saying that something has made you uncomfortable enough that you’re just fine with someone being murdered on the street over it. Would this extend to people who hold stock in health care companies? How far do you want the killing to go?

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    6. Americans have spoken, they take no issue with the assassination.

      If the assassination has you rattled, so be it.

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    7. Anonymouse 7:31pm, anonymices aren’t the spokemices for America. You approach this like it’s some new fashion trend or dance move that has you buzzed. Call it the fascist fandango.

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    8. I see you’re rattled, be safe out there.

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    9. Anonymouse 7:51pm, sure thing, killer. You’re more Geraldo Rivera than Che Guevara.

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  7. As a Republican, I own lots of guns, but do not fear, I only use bullet ballots for my ammo.

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  8. I am a Soros-trained monkey. Will someone rape me please?

    Please, please, please?

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    1. Woohoo, blog-killa carrying the load in trying to bring this ridiculous right wing blog down.

      Go blog-killa, go!

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  9. Polls indicate that a majority of voters that closely or moderately follow news media voted for Harris.

    Corporate media is garbage; although it is somewhat influential among establishment, neoliberal politicians, it has little influence among the electorate, and was not determinative in this election.

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  10. Trump to Palestinians: there will be hell to pay

    Trump to Netanyahu: finish the job

    We support Palestinians in their effort to defend against the Israeli genocide.

    But to those that supposedly support Palestinians, that contributed to Trump, who endorses the genocide, getting elected, we are out of fucks to give.

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  11. Republicans are gearing up to cut Social Security and other social programs.

    Mike Lee is taking the helm in Congress, in partnership with leading Trump guru Musk, an immigrant carpetbagger who got fat off government cheese via scams to “invent” things that already exist.

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    1. I'm confident all none of the Republican voters who are economically anxious will over-run the United States Capitol, if they try.

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    2. I’m confident that anonymices will continue to applaud people being gunned down on the street as an act of terrorism. I’m confident you’ll be back to looting Nike outlets and throwing cans of soup at the cops.

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    3. ah hahaha! You're so funny, Cecelia! The billionaire boys club is gearing up to cut Social Security and Medicare. Isn't that a hoot!! I remember just the other day you were confidently declaring that Trump had taken cuts to these programs off the table. And then, wow, President Muskaswarmy announced different agenda!! Isn't that a hoot! What are those poor libs gonna do about it. Hahahah, this is so funny. Hahahaha!

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    4. Anonymous 3:38pm, since you brought this up shouldn’t you articulate and clarify Trump’s different agenda?

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    5. 2:05 brought the subject up. It certainly wouldn't have been any of the maggots infesting this comment board. Muskaswarmy is in charge now. That's what a quarter billion dollars campaign funding buys you. You keep inventing your imaginary scarey things libs do. They like you that way. Pay no attention to President Muskaswarmy. Keep believing in Donny J Chickenshit who couldn't find his ass with both hands.

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    6. Anonymouse 4:26pm, the Democrats have spent the last four years running against a man who is “literally Hitler” and who will absolutely end democracy. Hail! Putin! Do you know how ridiculous and exhausting your “the sky is falling” thing has gotten? It’s been going on for eight bat shite crazy years. You have zero self-awareness. Everything you do and say is unassailable in your book. . If the person who killed Thompson is a lefty, that slaughter will be unassailable…if you don’t manage to blame the Proud Boys for it. However, if the murderer is a conservative, then all this machismo “find out” will turn on a dime.

      If you want to know why people will tolerate Trump with all his faults, and who feel like he’s less of a risk than you are, go look in a mirror. You are so tyrannical and doctrinaire, and your hair is on fire so often that you’re a human tiki torch.

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    7. Trump has held every position possible on almost every issue, it’s part of his “strategy”.

      The views Trump has held the longest on Social Security is that it’s a Ponzi scheme, it should be privatized, the retirement age should be raised, and generally that SS needs to be cut.

      During Trump’s first term, he repeatedly tried to cut SS, even as recently as his 2021 fiscal budget. His efforts were blocked by Dems.

      His only SS proposal for the 2024 campaign, was to eliminate taxes on SS benefits, but no one takes this seriously as it would be a deep cut to SS, about a trillion dollars over ten years.

      Trump’s slated appointments and the makeup of his advisors generally endorse reforms that result in cuts/direct cuts to SS, so it’s pretty clear Trump is all in on trying to cut SS. The Dems will block it.

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    8. Trump’s support is weak.

      Trump could not even break 50% of the vote, getting only 30% of the electorate. Trump is massively unpopular. Harris and her policies are more popular, but Americans are too squeamish to elect a woman of color.

      Due to the psychology of Republicans, it is much easier to motivate them to vote, since they are rabidly obsessed with dominance.

      Trump barely accomplished anything as president, but some of the reasons Trump is unpopular are: he blew up our debt (the most in history) merely to service the top 1% wealthy people, he was completely incompetent in handling the pandemic which directly resulted in the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, he increased drone attacks and dropped the mother of all bombs, he had more military deaths than Biden, he installed far right loons on the SC that led to one of the most popular rights being taken away, and he repeatedly tried to cut social programs, like SS, that help average Americans.

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    9. Anonymouse 6:14pm, the whole argument that Trump wants to end SS is that his policies as to not taxing the benefit and lowering taxes in general will deplete the SS trust fund.

      Why don’t you address those things as being potential detriments to the system rather than saying that Trump wants to end the program. It’s not honest, it doesn’t address his thinking, and it takes the debate nowhere.

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    10. Strawman.

      That was addressed.

      The criticism of Trump on SS has been that he wants to cut SS. This is accurate. It is more dishonest to argue that Trump does not want to, has not repeatedly tried to, cut SS.

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    11. Anonymouse 6:42pm, where was cutting SS addressed other than the charge that he wants to cut it?

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    12. Right, Trump wants to cut SS.

      What are you on about?

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    13. Anonymouse 6:56pm, you’re on about it. Why? Has he said it?

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    14. Yes, Trump has a long history of wanting to cut SS, as indicated earlier.

      Trump actively and repeatedly tried to cut SS during his first term.

      His singular SS proposal in 2024 is to eliminate taxes on SS benefits, a silly notion no one takes seriously, since it would amount to a deep cut to SS, about a trillion dollars over ten years.

      Trump’s efforts to cut SS have all been blocked by Dems, and they will continue to do so.

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    15. 6:14 Social Security IS a Ponzi scheme. That’s an actuarial fact, not just Trump’s position.

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    16. Anonymouse 7:11pm, are you incapable of getting specific? I can’t address anything predicated on a pronouncement. If Trump has repeatedly tried to cut it then you ought to say how.

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    17. Nope, a Ponzi scheme is economic fraud to the benefit of the originator via profits.

      SS is an insurance program that funds keeping seniors out of poverty.

      With SS there’s no fraud, no profits, the money completely goes to the beneficiaries - all qualifying American citizens above a certain age.

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    18. David, so how has Trump tried to cut SS?

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    19. Trump has a long history of wanting to cut SS, he even wrote about it in one of his books.

      During Trump’s first presidency, his budgets all had cuts to SS, and other social programs.

      If you want the details of all this, google it.

      It was all blocked by Dems.

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    20. Anonymouse 7:28pm, thanks for nothing. Nite. Nite.

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    21. Fair enough, I accept your tipping of your king.

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    22. lol, Cecelia saying where, where, where? And then finding out, oh, it was in every Trump budget (and even his own book) when he was president, so then pretends like suddenly they can see, hear, speak no evil, like a child.

      Some say la, la, la to sing a song, but Cecelia sticks fingers in ear to say la, la, la putting my head in the sand.

      Oof! Ow, ow, ow!

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    23. Anonymouse 7:39pm, I accept that you have proclamations, but no specifics, and that’s likely true for you in various ways.

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    24. Anonymouse 7:50pm, yes, it’s in all Trump’s books. Everyone knows. But you can’t articulate it. Google that.

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    25. Trump has never actually written a book himself.

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    26. @7:23 A Ponzi scheme pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors. In SS the money I paid in wasn't saved and invested for me and my cohort. The money I paid in is long gone. My benefits are being funded by people working today.

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    27. David in Cal is a deadbeat, just like every other Right-winger.

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    28. Trump wants to pardon Antifa for their actions on January 6, 2021.
      I hope that makes his voters cry lakes of tears.

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    29. Just agree with Dickhead in Cal. He's not here to engage in an intellectually honest discussion. He is here to provoke and instigate. That's how he gets his kicks in his old age senility.

      Yes, David, SS is a Ponzi scheme. Just like Charles Ponzi first imagined it. Thank you, David, for your insight and contribution.

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    30. DIC: You know better the definition of a Ponzi scheme and purposely misrepresents it, making you dishonest. Or, you do not know better what a Ponzi scheme is, making you stupid. Your choice.

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    31. Like virtually every other tax, Social Security taxes fund ongoing expenses. Why that is so hard for rubes like DIC to understand is bizarre. Extending the solvency of SS is relatively easy and has been discussed ad nauseum. Comparing it to a Ponzi scheme is Republican pablum. It’s just a way of attempting to whittle away at a program that is the mainstay of retirement finance for millions of Americans who would be destitute without it. The idea of privatizing it was pushed during Bush junior’s tenure but then the largest recession since the Great Depression put a quash to that notion.

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  12. Fake News Reporter Paul Krugman from the New York Times Retires After 25-years of Spreading Bogus Misinformation.

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    1. Nobel prizewinning fake news reporter…

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    2. dumb fucking maggot thinks Paul Krugman is a reporter. this is why you can't talk to maggots, they live in an alternate universe.

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  13. The United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas ruled against the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in a high-profile case brought by the Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT).

    The decision mandates the FDA to release the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) file for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine no later than June 30, 2025.

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  14. “ There are many reasons which might explain why a voter might have decided to vote against Blue America's candidate this time around.”

    Oddly, Somerby keeps saying this but still hasn’t listed a single reason. Where is that list he promised weeks ago?

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    1. Somerby is vying for the King of Empty Promises, but he’s facing stiff competition from the likes of Trump, Musk, etc.

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    2. Anonymouse 5:14pm, Somerby did list a reason why a voter might have voted for Trump this time. The reason is you.

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    3. Triggered, interesting.

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    4. Anonymouse 6:16pm, l didn’t say that you are dumb and unpleasant and nobody likes you, Bob did. That triggered you. It’s why you’re here.

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    5. I’m triggered to pull out my field notebook and jot down my observations of the wounded right wing lost souls that fill the comments section.

      This kind of research normally takes money and effort, but these folks are offering it up voluntarily.

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    6. Anonymouse 6:54pm, you’re obviously triggered and that also makes the things you do obvious. It’s why you have to pull out particular phrases that you think are triggering other people.

      Yeah, it’s why you’re here and it’s a part of that dark triad glee thing. Carry on.

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    7. Wait, who’s triggered?

      It seems like it’s the one responding to comments with trash talk and gibberish, aka Cecelia.

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  15. I voted for Trump because he was willing to demonstrate, even in front of children, how to fellate a man.

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  16. Rousseau said, "I open the books on Right and on ethics; I listen to the professors and jurists; and, my mind full of their seductive doctrines, I admire the peace and justice established by the civil order; I bless the wisdom of our political institutions and, knowing myself a citizen, cease to lament I am a man. Thoroughly instructed as to my duties and my happiness, I close the book, step out of the lecture room, and look around me. I see wretched nations groaning beneath a yoke of iron. I see mankind ground down by a handful of oppressors, I see a famished mob, worn down by sufferings and famine, while the rich drink the blood and tears of their victims at their ease. I see on every side the strong armed with the terrible powers of the Law against the weak."

    Which reality would you rather tell yourself is the real one?

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    1. One can exist as an ideal and a goal while addressing the need for change in the other. Only a child engages in such black and white thinking that sees only good or evil, and neither extreme is reality.

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  17. I am a Soros-trained monkey. Will someone rape me already? Please?

    Please, please? My uncle was eaten by cannibals!

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  18. When I think about my schooling as a troubled white kid with behavior issues, I remember my parents being routinely on good terms with the school staff, and getting given lots of chances if I was accused of being trouble. Black students are often denied extra chances, and suspended faster. When I had mood issues, I would run around in the alleys and parks with friends to burn off steam.

    My problems in school only meant to others that I was an underdog worthy of encouragement. A black student's problems in school are understood to mean their "disadvantaged" status is hopeless.

    It was common in my US public high school for some Black students to get a reputation for missing class. A student has to build on what they learned yesterday. Missing days at school is caused by concentrated poverty and harsher school discipline programs. An impoverished community has less political muscle to lobby for a dignified school treatment and resources to get third or fourth chances on school discipline issues. Cheaper food is worse for your brain. The underinvestment and segregation ensured their communities had less resources overall, less generational experience to intervene for over-policing of students, sparser zoning for areas like parks to burn off steam, more stigmatized psychology diagnoses, and the bandaid solution was basically to start teaching to the test.

    If you can get the American media to address why it creates concentrated poverty, you'd start to be questioning key pillars of our economy, you'd be moving the needle on larger issues like corporate accountability vs individual accountability, and probably offend quite a few people who think of themselves as progressive.

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