THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2024
A search for the nominee's worldview: Did he grow up in Forest Lake? Or was it Forest Lake Township?
We've spent some time, in recent days, seeking the historical Pete Hegseth. In truth, we've begun to feel sorry for this person—for a person who seems to have been tortured, down through the years, in various ways we haven't yet seen explained or explored.
Would you want to have behaved in the ways this person seems to have behaved? We're puzzled as to where it all began.
We're puzzled about where this story began. That brings us to Forest Lake, Minnesota—or perhaps to Forest Lake Township. The leading authority on this topic starts us off with this:
Pete Hegseth
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Hegseth was born on June 6, 1980, in Minneapolis, Minnesota, the son of Brian, a basketball coach, and Penny Hegseth. He was raised in nearby Forest Lake and is of Norwegian descent on both sides of the family. He attended Forest Lake Area High School, where he played football and basketball, graduating in 1999 as valedictorian of his class.
Hegseth went on to receive his Bachelor of Arts in politics at Princeton University in 2003. While there, he wrote for The Princeton Tory magazine and became its publisher...Hegseth also played basketball for the Tigers...
The authority says he was raised in Forest Lake and attended Forest Lake Area High School. But was he raised in Forest Lake, or might it have been Forest Lake Township?
Most likely, it makes little difference. That said, according to present-day norms, Hegseth seems to have a somewhat unusual view of the world—and as with Citizen Kane's tortured principal character, so too here:
We'd like to know if some sort of "Rosebud" informs this person's apparently unusual view of the world. The story begins in Forest Lake, though possibly next door in the Township.
What was Forest Lake, Minnesota like when Hegseth emerged from its public high school? Based on U.S. census figures, the leading authority reports the city's population at these stages along the way:
Forest Lake, Minnesota population
1980: 4,596
1990: 5,833
2000: 6,856
2010: 18,375
What explains that jump in population after Hegseth went off to Princeton? We're going to guess that the answer lies in this report about Forest Lake Township:
Forest Lake Township, Washington County, Minnesota
Forest Lake Township was a township in Washington County, Minnesota, United States. The population was 7,642 at the 2000 census. It is now a part of the city of Forest Lake.
Forest Lake Township's first settlers arrived in the latter half of the 1850s, and the township was officially established in 1893. In the same year, part of the township incorporated as the village of Forest Lake. In 2001, Forest Lake (by this point, a city) annexed the entire township.
Based on that capsule account, we'll assume that Forest Lake's population basically doubled when it annexed Forest Lake Township. Demographically, the evidence suggests that little changed when the annexation occurred. As the authority continues along, it offers this overview of the Township in 2000:
As of the census of 2000, there were 7,642 people, 2,628 households, and 2,178 families residing in the township...The racial makeup of the township was 97.66% White, 0.20% African American, 0.25% Native American, 0.60% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.31% from other races, and 0.94% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.93% of the population.
There were 2,628 households, out of which 39.8% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 74.8% were married couples living together...
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The median income for a household in the township was $70,671, and the median income for a family was $74,564...About 1.7% of families and 2.3% of the population were below the poverty line.
Not that there's anything wrong with it! That said, Garrison Keillor made a career poking fun at Minnesota communities of this general type—communities "where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average."
As best we can tell, the demographics of Forest Lake were similar to those of Forest Lake Township as of the year 2000. Each of those smaller communities was located in Washington County, and this is the leading authority's profile of that jurisdiction at that point in time:
Washington County, Minnesota
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As of the census of 2000, there were 201,130 people, 71,462 households, and 54,668 families in the county...The racial makeup of the county was 93.63% White, 1.83% Black or African American, 0.39% Native American, 2.14% Asian, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 0.60% from other races, and 1.37% from two or more races.
The median income for a household in the county was $66,305, and the median income for a family was $74,576 (these figures had risen to $78,067 and $90,867 respectively as of a 2007 estimate)...About 2.00% of families and 2.90% of the population were below the poverty line.
It sounds like this entire county's inhabitants were (almost) all above average. One year earlier, a valedictorian had left the county to play basketball at Princeton.
By the time he was 31, he was running for Amy Klobuchar's seat in the United States Senate! You can read about his announcement here.
At long last, the New York Times has now started to examine Hegseth's unusual religious views. They do so in a new report which carries this dual headline:
Pete Hegseth and His ‘Battle Cry’ for a New Christian Crusade
The veteran picked to lead the Defense Department has praised the brutal religious military campaigns of the past and has called for a Christian approach to governing.
"Unusual" doesn't mean "bad." But how did this person end up in the various ways he has, apparently with a set of rather unusual views and with an astounding amount of unwarranted self-assurance?
Based on the text of his mother's famous email, there was already religious discomfort within the Hegseth family as of 2017. Given the circumstance of his nomination, it's long past time for our major news orgs to explore his apparently unusual views.
He grew up in a spotless land. Everyone was above average. At the time, that even included him!
For whatever reason, he seems to have had a lot of trouble along the way. Beyond that, he seems to have created a substantial amount of trouble for others.
At some point, we start feeling sorry for people who have lost their way. It also seems abundantly clear that they shouldn't be placed in high office.
Valedictorian! Princeton degree! I didn’t know this dude was smart.
ReplyDeleteAnother Republican Ivy League, East Coast elitist, looking down at us flyover states.
DeleteNo wonder they call Trump a "Populist".
Trump himself is an East Coast Ivy Leaguer. Some people are so busy calling him "stupid" that they tend to forget that.
DeleteEven the inferiority complex of the Republican voter is no match for the power of bigotry. They shucked their concern about coastal elites as soon as it got in the way of the two things they actually care about.
DeleteTed Kaczynski got a BA from Harvard, PhD from Michigan writing a thesis that his advisor stated might be understood by 10-15 people in the world, and at age 25 was the youngest math faculty at UC Berkeley in the history of the University. So what’s your point?
DeleteTrump, despite a very wealthy father and private school education got into Fordham. BFD. Mary Trump stated that he paid someone to take his SAT. Transfer to Wharton from Fordham? The circumstances are unknown since Trump’s academic history is kept secret. Kaczynski’s grades at Michigan are available on Wikipedia. Trump’s son in law almost certainly got bought a spot into the Ivy leagues, as multiple classmates attested he was not high level material. Money, as always, talks. No one seems to remember Trump academically at Wharton.
The main character in Citizen Kane was not tortured.The sleigh was a rhetorical device. You cannot blame character flaws and bad behavior on childhood events or the ups and downs of life, the way Somerby keeps trying to do.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 5:10pm, so what’s that whole “childhood trauma” stuff that you pull out of your rear?
DeleteSomeone else said that stuff.
DeleteNo, anonymices are anonymous. You have no differentiation. You are one, like the Borg.
DeleteOn the other hand, each and every Republican voter has their own way of looking at things. They just all happen to be from a bigoted viewpoint.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:29pm, but it’s your picture by the definition in the dictionary.
DeleteICE needs to check Cecelia's papers. She's struggling with the common language.
DeleteDrunk again. Her/his/its happy starts about 7:30 - 8 AM.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:25pm, I don’t know how your accusation of being bested by a drunk person helps you, but have at it.
DeleteWalking hiccup at 8:56pm - lemme know when it happens.
DeleteTry pepper and Drano. That’ll help your hiccups.
DeleteYou must have already tried it, 9:08. That explains quite a bit.
DeleteIf anything, it may be that Hegseth was radicalized in college. Young people are vulnerable when away from the social support of friends and family. Some with poor social skills take drugs or drink too much because anyone who similRly indulges will be socially accepted. Groups like evangelical religion, scientology, and white supremacists recruit hapless freshmen. This isn’t rocket science. The problem seems to be that Hegseth never found a better identity.
ReplyDeleteAs stated, Hegseth was the son of a gym teacher in a middle class suburb of Minneapolis. Why posit he was radicalized in college?
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DeleteNo being an idiot-moonbat is called, by idiot-moonbats, "radicalized" now?
Good to know.
Unlike Somerby, I don’t tend to feel sorry for those who “create problems” (hurt) other people, especially innocent bystanders.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 5:20pm, Bob doesn’t pity Hegseth. He’s uncomfortable with words “condescension” and “disdain”.
DeleteCan you read? “ At some point, we start feeling sorry for people who have lost their way.”
DeleteHe is referring to Hegseth, dumbass.
He stated many times that he pities Trump.
What a weirdo.
“ He’s uncomfortable with words “condescension” and “disdain”.”
DeleteUnlike you, eh? They’re your bread and butter, the marrow of your existence.
I am disappointed by the religious bigotry in Bob's post. Who cares what version of Christianity he believes or whether he's a Christian at all. His life has shown courage, commitment to his country, and success in various endeavors, and leadership as executive director of the nonprofit Vets for Freedom and as CEO of Concerned Veterans for America. Now, that does not prove he's necessarily capable of handling the job, but IMO he shouldn't be judged on this kind of nonsense.
ReplyDeleteThe alcoholic, sexual pest with no credentials whatsoever for the job, might just be the guy who actually gets things done.
DeleteYou can't predict the future. If you could, you would have predicted Republican SCOTUS appointees would overturn Roe v Wade, after they swore to the Senate Judiciary Committee that it was settled law.
@6:34 -- Did you ever know or work with an alcoholic? Hegseth shows none of the symptoms such as missing work or driving infractions. Your casual use of the word is disgusting.
DeleteI imagine you got the impression from some media. They are also disgusting.
Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump's embattled pick for secretary of defense, received a six-figure severance payment and signed a non-disclosure agreement when he exited the organization Concerned Veterans of America. The payment came amid allegations of financial mismanagement, repeated incidents of intoxication and sexual impropriety, as well as dissension among its leaders over Hegseth's foreign policy views.
DeleteThere is something seriously the fuck wrong with you, DiC.
Oh so sad to DIC that multiple colleagues, witnesses and victims of Hegseth’s have come forward about his behaviors. Having affairs in multiple marriages should disqualify him from presiding over military personnel who would suffer severe consequences for such behavior. But let’s cut him a break since DIC says so. Talk about disgusting.
Delete@8:10 you seem to be quoting allegations, not established facts.
DeleteBTW -- Did having affairs disqualify Bill Clinton from being Commander in Chief?
Apples and oranges, dork.
DeleteYou're really pathetic, DiC. First you come here and proudly declare "success in various endeavors, and leadership as executive director of the nonprofit Vets for Freedom and as CEO of Concerned Veterans for America." On what basis do you make that claim?
DeleteThen when I post credible news stories reporting how he was forced to step down, you brush it off as allegations not facts. Fuck you. You have no integrity.
Pete Hegseth, President-elect Trump’s pick to lead the Pentagon, was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran due to mismanagement of funds, sexual impropriety and reports of intoxicated behavior, The New Yorker reported on Sunday.
The incidents — relayed in a trail of documents and corroborated to The New Yorker by the accounts of former colleagues — took place prior to Hegseth becoming a full-time Fox News TV host in 2017.https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017946-pentagon-pick-hegseth-misconduct/
@8:37 — that’s very impressive. It may be accurate. Still, I would like to see the documents and know the names of the accusers.
DeleteNow, demand this much factual detail about the Hunter Biden case, DiC.
DeleteWhat’s that? The inuendo in that case is sufficient?
Dead man walking. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
DeleteFuck you, DiC. I would like to see the documents and know the names of the people who vouch for his successful "leadership as executive director of the nonprofit Vets for Freedom and as CEO of Concerned Veterans for America." Two partisan political non-profits where he appears to have been relieved of duty under cloudy circumstances.
DeleteWould any of those people be his mother?
Biden giving Hunter a pardon had been a matter of discussion since last June. Biden had never ruled out a pardon, he just lied and said he had while he was engaged in his re-election campaign.
ReplyDelete“The president has discussed pardoning his son with some of his closest aides at least since Hunter Biden’s conviction in June, said two people with direct knowledge of the discussions about the matter. They said it was decided at the time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son even though doing so remained on the table.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-issue-pardon-son-hunter-biden-rcna182369
Biden lied to the press. Are the press your heroes Soros-bot?
DeleteThe above paragraph is the 13th paragraph in the story.
ReplyDeleteBodies are only buried six feet deep.
Whatever happened to "the fix is in" that the soon-to-be Moron in Chief was bleating in the runup to November 5?
ReplyDeleteCourtesy of Ian Bremmer:
% of republican voters who said united states elections were run very/somewhat well in
november 2020: 21%
november 2024: 93%
Combination of endless vote counting and mail-in ballots.
DeleteHave another drink.
DeleteAnonymouse 9:03pm, no thanks. You’ve spit in the bottle.
DeleteCecelia, with nothing better to do with “her” miserable, empty life.
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DeleteI hear liberals are suddenly concerned about politicization of the justice system? Sanctity of the rule of law no more?
But why? What happened?
What a tired playbook Somerby has. Every horrible, incompetent, mesh-spirited Trump/GOP goon is a pitiable nutcase.
ReplyDeleteBut hey, at least Somerby’s impressive sympathetic nature never extends to liberals.
Mean-spirited
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ReplyDeleteHard work is good work! Hard work can be joyful work! My uncle was eaten by cannibals!
I sniff my fingers. What a joy, such a joy! What an asshole Somerby is!
I am Corby.
Hard work is for suckers like trump cultists who get excited at the prospect of polishing billionaire's knobs.
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