THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2024
Also, Van Jones [HEART] President Biden: Long ago, during the 2016 campaign, he was described by his opponent as a puppet to Putin.
Is he Elon's puppet now?
We refer to former candidate / incoming president Donald J. Trump. Yesterday, he created a contretemps when he intervened in the ongoing budget brouhaha, an action he took after Musk suddenly tweeted on the subject roughly a hundred times.
Or at least, we heard that number reported on cable news. All in all, it was just another manic Wednesday here in our struggling nation's version of Oran.
The budget meltdown happened so late in the day that it didn't make the print editions of today's New York Times. Online, a report begins in the manner shown, featuring an unusually colorful bit of journalistic language:
Trump Criticizes Spending Deal, Pushing Congress Toward a Shutdown
A bipartisan spending deal to avert a shutdown was on life support on Wednesday after President-elect Donald J. Trump condemned it, leaving lawmakers without a strategy to fund the government past a Friday night deadline.
Mr. Trump issued a scathing statement ordering Republicans not to support the sprawling bill, piling on to a barrage of criticism from Elon Musk, who spent Wednesday trashing the measure on social media and threatening any Republican who supported it with political ruin.
It was not yet clear how Speaker Mike Johnson planned to proceed as the package, which was stuffed full of unrelated policy measures as well as tens of billions of dollars in disaster and agricultural aid, appeared to be hemorrhaging support. Some Republicans suggested he was mulling stripping the bill of everything but the spending extension and putting it to a vote, but the fate of such a measure was also very much in doubt.
Really? the bill "was stuffed full of" unrelated policy measures? Have editors at the New York Times barred use of the word "included?"
Give the reporters credit! In today's report, they never say that Speaker Johnson had been trying to "shove the spending package down America's throat."
They show that amount of restraint. But before too long, they do say this, bringing the eternal note of incomprehension in:
Even before Mr. Musk began making noise, a swell of Republican lawmakers...had been furious about the funding measure, which was rolled out on Tuesday night. It began as a simple spending bill to keep government funds flowing past a midnight deadline and into mid-March, but it emerged from bipartisan negotiations laden with $100 billion in disaster aid and dozens of other unrelated policies.
The G.O.P. resistance meant that in order to pass the bill, Mr. Johnson was going to have to rely, yet again, on Democratic votes to pass it, using a special procedure that requires the support of two-thirds of those voting. But by Wednesday afternoon, the backlash to the legislation had spread so far and wide in G.O.P. ranks that it was unclear whether he would even be able to muster a bare minimum of Republicans to partner with Democrats and push it across the finish line.
Say what? Speaker Johnson had been planning to use "a special procedure that requires the support of two-thirds of those voting?" Say hello to the cultural problem known as "the complexification of everything."
In that passage, the Times reporters are referring to a procedure which could (possibly) be explained by Norman Ornstein but (almost surely) by no one else. No average American citizen understands what the Times was talking about, and the Times didn't try to explain.
This complexification of everything will tend to lead to the disintegration of a large modern nation. When no one understands what's happening, people are free to fall back on the simplified stories they'll be told by their tribe's chosen tribunes.
Long ago and far away, those of us in this sprawling nation were periodically invited to chuckle at footage of South Korean legislators engaged in fist fights on the floor of their nation's legislature.
Today, we Americans still get to watch the clown-car as it sputters and chugs along, periodically breaking down. By now, though, the clown-car in question is our own country—is us!
The American carnage is everywhere now. As an example of what we mean, a visit to Mediaite offered these headlines at the start of this very morning:
CNN Panel Melts Down In Finger-Pointing Fallout Over Elon Musk’s Role In Derailing Spending Bill
139 Year Old Newspaper Shut Down Over Mayor’s $1.1M Defamation Lawsuit Win
‘F*cking Lying Piece of Sh*t’: Dan Crenshaw Lashes Out at Claim He Wants Pay Rise for Congress
House Democrat Says ‘I’m Just Gonna Sit Back and Sip My Tea’ and Watch Republicans Fight Each Other
Musk Sends Blatantly False Tweet About ‘Bioweapon Labs’ That Is Reposted More Than 30,000 Times
For the record, that CNN panel melted down on NewsNight, a program the network seems to have invented in hopes that manufactured screaming matches may attract a few additional viewers.
The newspaper which is shutting down is doing so in the wake of what seems to be astoundingly dishonest behavior.
Rep. Crenshaw can't seem to take it any more, and we can't say we blame him. Rep. Crockett is going to enjoy herself, sipping her tea, as our flailing nation comes apart at the seams.
In the midst of all this turmoil, some of us in Blue America may still be wondering about a pair of questions. The questions relate to an event which happened long ago—last month's presidential election:
How did we ever lose to that guy? Why would any decent person have voted for Candidate Trump?
Even in the midst of our current "American carnage," some of us may remember the days when such questions seemed to matter. As part of the answer to those questions, this report does appear on the front page of today's New York Times. We'll skip the first two paragraphs:
Biden, Wearied and Stinging, Prepares to Exit
[...]
This is the twilight of Mr. Biden’s presidency, the final days of the final chapter of an epic half-century political journey that has had more than its share of twists and turns. Time is catching up with Mr. Biden. He looks a little older and a little slower with each passing day. Aides say he remains plenty sharp in the Situation Room, calling world leaders to broker a cease-fire in Lebanon or deal with the chaos of Syria’s rebellion. But it is hard to imagine that he seriously thought he could do the world’s most stressful job for another four years.
That does not make it any easier as Mr. Biden heads toward the exit. Nothing that has happened since he was forced to drop out of the race in July has made that decision look wrong, yet Donald J. Trump’s victory over Vice President Kamala Harris has been interpreted as a repudiation of Mr. Biden. It stung. It still stings. But unlike Mr. Trump four years ago, this president accepts the outcome.
[...]
Even when pushing for his priorities, Mr. Biden has found it hard to break through. During his visit to the Amazon rainforest last month, his fragility appeared painfully clear to those traveling with him.
After speaking for seven minutes on a day of draining humidity, a blue shirt hanging loosely over his frame, he turned to slowly shuffle away down a dirt path as several people in the audience not used to seeing him up close said they held their breath, worried that he would trip. (Aides said his gait was no more unsteady than usual.)
And so on from there. At any rate, aides still say that President Biden is "plenty sharp," but it's Peter Baker's assessment that he probably couldn't have done the job had he been re-elected.
Meanwhile, in this morning's Wall Street Journal, a related report by Linskey et al. appears beneath this dual headline:
How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge
Aides kept meetings short and controlled access, top advisers acted as go-betweens and public interactions became more scripted. The administration denied Biden has declined.
This morning, Annie Linskey appeared on CNN to discuss the Journal's detailed report. In theory, the transcript of her remarks should be accessible here, in the 6:30-7:00 chunk of CNN This Morning.
(At present, the transcript of that segment is missing.)
To what extent might President Biden have been diminished within the past several years? We can't answer that question, but as of August 2023, it seemed to us that it would be very hard for him to seek re-election.
Meanwhile, let the following be said:
When the president "slowly shuffled away" down that dirt path in Angola, the Fox News Channel ran with a bogus claim according to which he had unaccountably wandered off into the rainforest.
Even after additional video footage showed that this claim had been utterly bogus, players on the Fox News Channel kept pushing the bogus claim forward. This is the business our moguls have chosen as the so-called "democratization of media" continues to turn our sprawling nation into an array of warring tribes.
President Biden dropped out of the race in late July of this year. Candidate Harris was forced to jump in—and uh-oh! She herself was one of the people who had said that the president was still quite sharp.
(She had also said that the southern border was secure. Many people thought that was bullroar.)
President Biden dropped out of the race; Candidate Harris was forced to jump in. Did that unprecedented set of events possibly contribute some votes to Candidate Trump's narrow win?
We would assume that it did.
In our view, this was almost surely one of the many ways those of us in Blue America managed to lose this year's election. That said, many of us in Blue America still can't seem to conceive of any such explanations or reasons at all.
When President Biden stepped out of the race, Van Jones expressed his deep admiration for the departing candidate. For ourselves, we had a somewhat different reaction.
That said, we regard Jones as a thoroughly serious player. At the time, People magazine reported some of what the CNN analyst said:
Van Jones Gets Emotional Talking About Joe Biden Dropping Out of 2024 Presidential Race
Van Jones appeared to fight back tears while discussing President Joe Biden stepping down from the 2024 presidential race.
While speaking live on CNN on Sunday, July 21, Jones, 55, became emotional as he spoke about Biden's decision to take himself out of the running. The president, 81, is now instead endorsing Kamala Harris as the Democratic presidential nominee.
[...]
Tearing up, the former Obama adviser went on, “Because this is somebody that you love. This is somebody that you care about. This is somebody who was there for you. This is somebody you wouldn’t be here without him. And you had to take something from him."
Jones continued, "If you're a young person watching this, this is leadership, this is patriotism. This is what it means to put the country first, and put the party first and put the cost first. When your arm gets tired you let somebody else finish pitching the game."
"That's what Joe Biden has done, and he's done that for all of us," he continued.
That wasn't our own reaction at this disaster unfolded. But Jones is a thoroughly serious person, and he's been conducting a search.
How did we ever lose to that guy? Why would any decent person have voted for Candidate Trump?
For ourselves, we've long regarded the president-elect as being (tragically but dangerously) disordered. Still, we can think of many reasons why other people might have decided to vote for him. Or perhaps, why people might have decided to vote against our own candidate, or just against the long-standing performance of our Blue American tribe.
How did we ever lose to that guy? Why would anyone vote for him?
Last Saturday, Jones stated his view on that matter to Chris Cillizza. All in all, he isn't impressed with our own tribe's political smarts.
In our view, the whole thing started in 1965. We happened to be physically present when the downward spiral began.
Tomorrow, we'll try—we'll try especially hard—to review what Jones said to Cillizza. For the record, Bill Clinton said much the same thing in an interview with Joe Scarborough, and a guest essay in the Times attempted to explain why some of us in Blue America are perhaps unable to see what these people mean.
Tomorrow: Bill Clinton said much the same thing
Somerby claims “Jones is a thoroughly serious person”, but offers no evidence to back up this ridiculous claim; in reality, Jones is considered to be highly unserious, someone who blows in the wind, chasing a buck.
ReplyDeleteWhen you’re reduced to trying to gaslight about one of the most transparently unserious pundits out there, you’ve lost the plot.
Somerby himself is not a serious person. That impairs his ability to evaluate the seriousness of others.
Delete"Also, Van Jones [HEART] President Biden: Long ago, during the 2016 campaign, he was described by his opponent as a puppet to Putin.
ReplyDeleteIs he Elon's puppet now?"
The juxtaposition of a remark about Jones loving Biden makes it seem like the follow-on about Putin's puppet applies to Biden as well. And then we get Elon as puppet master.
Is this just clumsy writing? Yes, Somerby has been deteriorating, but it seems more likely to me that this is clumsy propaganda instead. Biden has never been considered anyone's puppet except by the right wing, who were sure Obama was manipulating him (due to his senility someone had to be). Now Somerby is clumsily implying that Biden too is being run by Putin and Musk. Yes, that is ridiculous, but if Somerby isn't suggesting such things (and assuaging the extremist right with his puppet talk), he needs to at least proofread his writing. He makes himself sound like an imbecile.
This comes from stream-of-consciousness thinking. Yes, he notes that he is talking about Trump not Biden in the next paragraph, but that is too late because he has already led his readers down the wrong path. Lazy or senile, you pick, but this is not normal discourse. It is tricksy game playing at best and cognitive decline (on Somerby's part) at worst. If Somerby can't do better than this, he should retire.
DeleteBob wants us to take advice from our enemies, the people who actively want to defeat us.
ReplyDeleteMakes one wonder, what kind of weirdo cuck is Bob?
"All in all, it was just another manic Wednesday here in our struggling nation's version of Oran. "
ReplyDeleteSomerby gets this wrong. Our version of Oran was in 2020 when we shut down due to plague. What is happening today has nothing to do with Camus or Troy. These are just the ways Somerby fills up space at this blog while trying to gaslight readers into hating Democrats (if it were possible for them to hate us more). Democrats are not typically into self-hate, but I can see why Republicans would be and might think they can convince us that we are as bad as they are. Self-hate comes easier when you aren't trying to be good decent people but just want to get rich and hate women and immigrants.
I don’t see the budget fracas so much as Republicans against Democrats. I see it more as politicians and their friends against ordinary people. Thanks to Ramaswamy, Musk, and Trump ordinary people won.
ReplyDeleteDo you ever read what you post?
DeleteRight, Dickhead, who needs all these Representatives and Senators representing "the People", when we can just have a Fuhrer and his unelected billionaire friends make all the decisions. Who the fuck needs democracy, amirite, Dickhead in Cal? This is why you are a fascist jackass, Dickhead.
DeleteThere's a huge difference between deciding to spend money on something and deciding not to spend money on it. The Constitution deliberately made it difficult to pass a law: 2 houses and the President must all agree.
DeleteSupporting a weaker government doesn't make one a a fascist. On the contrary, fascists want government to be more powerful.
Placing a bunch of billionaires in the category of "ordinary people" makes me seriously doubt your sanity, David.
DeleteDiC, “The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration”.
DeleteYou voted for him, again.
Trump rejected the current spending bill, and wants the debt ceiling increased in a new bill. He specifically said he wants it raised under Biden’s watch.
Why do you think he wants the debt ceiling raised, DiC? Do you think he wants more debt-creating tax cuts for billionaires, like last time? How did “ordinary people” gain under Trump’s first administration, and how will “ordinary people” gain under his second administration? Please be specific.
Thanks to Ramaswamy, Musk, and Trump ordinary people won.
DeleteHow did we win?
You're not supporting a "weaker government", asshole. You're supporting the end of representative government and substituting a King, you fascist jackass.
Delete"Representative government", idiot-moonbat?
DeleteLol. The congress has 16% approval rating, the president 35%.
I am sure you think that makes sense, Boris. Yes, here in America we have elections for our representatives, not just for a perpetual oligarchal dictator and his mafia henchmen.
DeleteTrump's current favorability rating is 41%. That isn't much more than Biden's considering Trump won. It means some of his own voters don't approve of him, which isn't surprising given that he is Trump.
DeleteDigby today discusses Trump's election as part of a trend to throw out incumbents in affluent countries:
Delete"This is a sobering set of facts that people really need to absorb before they go on about how the Democrats failed because of their policy on this or that. I’m sure that’s why people are telling themselves that it happened but it’s obviously much bigger than that. This is a phenomenon confined to the rich world which is much angrier than the developing nations. Why?
The Journal offers up all the usual reasons for the dissatisfaction from immigration to status anxiety to ballooning deficits (what?) I’m sure there are many. One article that challenges that thinking is by a writer named Toby Buckle with an essay called “A Disease of Affluence” which I highly recommend you read when you have time.
He challenges the ubiquitous notion that working class Americans voted for Trump because of their economic anxiety pointing out the fact that lower income working people voted for Harris and vote for Democrats in every election. The average Trump voter is actually doing quite well.
He argues the opposite — that Americans, on the whole, are so relatively affluent that we’ve lost the social hierarchy that allows people to feel superior over their lessers. It’s a thought provoking riff on the economic and cultural argument that takes to task both the usual socialist bromides as well as the culture war rationales. It doesn’t explain everything but it certainly adds to the mix of ideas as to why the whole developed world is having a meltdown."
https://www.liberalcurrents.com/a-disease-of-affluence/
https://digbysblog.net/2024/12/19/happy-hollandaise/
DeleteYes, Laquisha, it does make sense to me.
DeleteSo, to you and other Democrat party retards it makes sense that the congress with 16% approval and the president with 35% approval rating represent the people?
Good to know, Laquisha, and happy Kwanzaa to you,
your Boris.
'Thanks to Ramaswamy, Musk, and Trump ordinary people won.'
DeleteRight. Those are some ordinary folks right there.
Known grifter Van Jones (he loves to rub shoulders with right wing billionaires, including receiving $100 million from Bezos) is suddenly a very serious person in Somerby’s eyes.
ReplyDeleteJones has staked out nearly every position on the spectrum, from calling all Whites racist, to scolding about wokeness and identity politics.
Jones is a joke, a clown.
Somerby isn’t even trying anymore.
Van Jones is trying to improve the criminal justice system and received a grant to do so from Bezos. That sounds serious to me.
DeleteFrom calling all whites racist to scolding about wokeness isn't a very broad range, not very far apart on any spectrum. In fact, they go together. But it is clear you dislike Jones. Unfortunately, your criticisms of him sound manufactured (fake).
Jones hasn’t accomplished anything other than lining his pockets.
DeleteAn individual receiving a cool $100 million gift (it wasn’t a grant) from a right wing billionaire, only sounds serious to suckers. Good luck with that.
Calling out racism and scolding wokeness are indeed on opposite ends of the spectrum. Did you attend Somerby’s Gaslighting University?
The "gift" was characterized by Bezos as a philanthropic award for courage and civility. A grant is distinguished from a loan or investment, because it doesn't have to be paid back. In this case, Bezos put no restrictions on the use of the funds. Bezos gave a similar award to Chef Andres for his philanthropic work. Are you saying that Jones has done nothing philanthropic in his work to reform criminal justice for black people?
DeleteAccording to Wikipedia:
"He [Jones] founded or co-founded several non-profit organizations, including the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, Color of Change, and the Dream Corps. The Dream Corps is a social justice accelerator that operates three advocacy initiatives: Dream Corps Justice, Dream Corps Tech and Green for All."
That's not nothing.
"Really? the bill "was stuffed full of" unrelated policy measures? Have editors at the New York Times barred use of the word "included?" Somerby says.
ReplyDeleteJournalism is suffering and the NY Times lost a bunch of subscribers that it hasn't gained back. This less formal language may be an attempt to lower the fog index and make text more readable to those with lower reading levels and less education. They have to do something to gain more readers if they are to survive financially.
Somerby never appears to understand the realities of publishing or the context of anything he discusses. This nitpick aimed at the NY Times, who did what Somerby wanted in its campaign to push Biden off the ticket, is thoughtless. We all know that Somerby, who attended Harvard without learning much about anything, knows what the word "includes" means. Does he think the NY Times is propagandizing when it uses more "colorful" language (dumbing down its report)? Both versions say the same thing.
ReplyDelete"How did we ever lose to that guy?"
That's because we're losers. Both our scumbag Democrat elite and our useless, retarder rank-and-file Democrat loyalists. Utterly pathetic losers, that's all we are and that's we will ever be.
This has been another installment of simple answers to simple questions.
Somerby, Van Jones, Dave Rubin, Taibbi, Tulsi, Greenwald, Dore, Pool…on and on, all birds of a feather, doing the bidding of their paymasters, out to destroy the Democratic Party.
ReplyDeleteHeck, if I had no integrity, I might consider it too.
I'm not sure Jones belongs on that list. What is your evidence?
DeleteAgree.
DeleteThese sad folks, and many notable others, flip flop around, chasing the almighty dollar.
It would be nice if more billionaires attempted to buy off the left by donating huge sums to our various charities and non-profit organizations. Think of the progress we could make with better funding!
DeleteWhen have civil rights or non-profits ever been too pure to accept gifts from imperfect rich people over time? Carnegie funded our libraries and universities. If Trump's billionaires prefer to donate money to causes instead of paying for them through taxes, I won't quibble. It is about time the wealthy paid their fair share toward the common good. Van Jones understands that while the various right wing trolls here attacking him today are trying to apply a purity test to donations and the activists who receive them. That's bunk.
"This complexification of everything will tend to lead to the disintegration of a large modern nation. "
ReplyDeleteThe NY Times didn't add complexity to the situation -- it described a complexity that is inherent to the process of passing the bill. To its credit, it didn't go into the details but did say that 2/3 of votes were needed for approval, thus both Dems and Repubs needed to support it. Should they have left that part out?
It is normal for elderly people too feel that the world is becoming unnecessarily complex, as they struggle with change and declining cognitive faculties in their own lives. But what Somerby describes is not the fault of the reporters but of the process itself, which the reporters are paid to describe. If Somerby finds that all too difficult, after complaining that the Times is using the wrong language, he can skip the technical parts and try to understand the rest (which is usually summarized at the end of an article). Is it too much to ask that Somerby take responsibility for his own lack of comprehension when reading about complex things? I guess so, since he blamed Einstein for the complexity of his theories decades ago. Somerby hasn't gained the wisdom to understand that all things are not equally easy to know, that some take more effort by the learner/reader, and that he himself must put in that effort even to read the NY Times (when it discusses complex topics).
Or maybe it is foolish of me to expect an old guy to change his approach to the world. Even so, Somerby is wrong in today's criticism, regardless of his age, motives, or willingness to meet any author halfway.
This is ageist tripe.
DeleteSo was the attack on Biden.
DeleteI voted for Trump because he was willing to demonstrate, even in front of children, how to fellate a man.
ReplyDeleteWhen you post this comment 25 times, is that enough?
DeleteDepends on whether you've had enough of Trump yet.
DeleteSomeone at Soros' bot farm would need to change the script.
Delete2:34 - how about this, Musk moron: drop dead.
DeleteI object to the daily antisemitism exhibited by these right wing trolls who think that references to anti-Jewish conspiracy theories are OK here. And I frankly do not understand why David in Cal does not object to them himself.
DeleteIn a blind poll, a majority of Republicans preferred Harris’ policies over Trump’s.
ReplyDeleteAs a Republican small business owner that previously voted for Trump, I voted for Harris because Jan 6 and the Supreme Court are just too extreme.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans have lost their way.
This blog has died.
ReplyDeleteThe reports of this blog's death are greatly exaggerated.
Delete"That wasn't our own reaction at this disaster unfolded. "
ReplyDeleteWe remember Somerby's reaction. Somerby absorbed and believed all of the right wing fake videos of Biden looking confused, ignored that these were manufactured by the right, ignored the real unedited videos presented showing Biden doing the same things as everyone else. Somerby called for Biden's removal and insisted that Biden could not do the job as nominee or president. Somerby sided with those calling for Biden to step down and he sided with right wingers saying horrible things about Biden. Somerby repeated Gutfeld's poopy pants jokes day after day after day, never defending Biden's record of accomplishment. Then when Harris took over as the candidate, Somerby said he would vote for her but without enthusiasm and he criticized her along with the right (and the NY Times) for not explaining her border policies immediately, and for holding too few interviews. But he did say she had a nice smile. Then he did nothing to defend her against the "ho" accusations and other sexism on the right. And no surprise that now he is blaming the Dems for running her as their candidate.
There is no space between Somerby's opinions of Biden and those of the right wing. Since the election, Somerby has been busily saying "I told you so" over Trump's win.
I admire Van Jones for sticking up for Joe Biden and pointing out his sacrifice and service as he did in the excerpt Somerby. I disagree with his criticisms of our party. I too get emotional about Biden's excellent performance and the shoddy way he has been treated by those who should have stood behind him. We have mechanisms for removing a president who can no longer do the job. That process was disregarded in favor of political maneuvering (by Pelosi, who is busily sabotaging AOC these days) that subverted our democracy as surely as Trump has done. That is the sin of the Democratic Party, in my opinion. But it isn't the first time such a thing has happened either.
"How did we ever lose to that guy? Why would anyone vote for him?"
ReplyDeleteSomerby has still not provided his list of reasons for voting for Trump. A reason not to vote Democratic is not a reason to support Trump. Many voters voted for Harris as the lesser of evils (as occurs during every election).
The reasons that have been provided depend on misinformation and wrong beliefs held by Trump supporters, largely supplied by Trump's own lies repeated by Fox News. That is not a reason to vote for the real Trump but a reason to vote for a fantasy version of Trump. Being deceived is not a reason to vote for Trump even if it is an explanation for why low-information voters did so.
I am still waiting to hear a good reason for voting for Trump. Somerby keeps promising and breaking his promises. That isn't a good basis for trusting anything Somerby says on any subject. After a while, the teases that are rarely fulfilled become Somerby's form of lying and undermine whatever faith someone might wish to place in anything else Somerby says.
"...explain why some of us in Blue America are perhaps unable to see what these people mean"
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference between being "unable to see" and seeing but disagreeing.
Cooler heads on the left are explaining that the amount that Trump won by is so small that there is every likelihood the Democrats will win the next election without changing anything about how we do politics on the left.
On the other hand, it might be a very good idea for the right to stop encouraging con artists to become politicians. It doesn't seem to be working out well for them. Republicans in disarray -- the right needs to get its house in order (no pun intended). Some of us are enjoying the chaos and real distress among Republicans caused by Trump and his chaos agents. They will get tired of it, assuming they can hold on to due process and do not allow Trump to control the military.
Many Republicans now talking openly about cutting social security and Medicare. See, this is what “the American people” voted for. Ordinary people just keep winning.
ReplyDeleteMany Republicans? Please provide links to ten of them.
DeleteHey lazy POS at 4:38; google it yourself.
DeleteWhy don't you start with President Muskaswamy, Dickhead in Cal.
DeleteIf you want 10, David, you can go look for them yourself. In the House, Colorado's Greg Lopez said just yesterday (as he entered the first meeting of the "DOGE Caucus") that Social Security and Medicare cuts were on the table. In the Senate, Iowa's Joanie Ernst has said she's open to "privitization" and that there should be a closed-door discussion about changes to the program.
ReplyDelete"Iowa's Joanie Ernst has said she's open to "privitization" and that there should be a closed-door discussion about changes to the program."
DeleteAnd? If she's from Iowa does that mean she can't be on the Russian team?
Oh, gosh, Sunshine. You really zinged me that time!
Delete"In the House, Colorado's Greg Lopez said just yesterday (as he entered the first meeting of the "DOGE Caucus") that Social Security and Medicare cuts were on the table."
DeleteI watched the video, Soros-bot. He said: "I think they should be on the table", which is completely different from "are on the table".
You Soros-bots wouldn't stop lying if your life depended on it, would you?
Greg Lopez said he thinks?
DeleteThat's a lie right there, Soros-bot.