CONWAYISM AND BABEL: Always willing to make the next ludicrous claim!

TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2017

Part 2—The essence of Conwayism:
What actually happened the day before Kellyane Conway's tiff with Anderson Cooper?

Conway's absurd performance during that tiff created an instant Babel. Her performance showcased the essence of Conwayism, an offshoot of the better-known rhetorical form, Trumpism.

What actually happened on Tuesday, January 10, triggering this giant tiff? Thank you for asking:

First, CNN aired a breathless report about Donald J. Trump's intelligence briefing the week before. Then, BuzzFeed published a 35-page document—a document full of unverified claims about that same Donald J. Trump.

According to CNN, a two-page summary of this document had been presented to Trump, in some manner or form, during or after the intelligence briefing. After CNN made this report, BuzzFeed went ahead and published the full dossier.

Did Donald J. Trump have reason to fault CNN for its slightly breathless report? Did he have reason to fault the unnamed "U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the briefings" who had served as CNN's sources?

Did he have reason to fault BuzzFeed for publishing the dossier? These are perfectly sensible questions, but all such matters were obscured by the crazy burst of Conwayism with which Cooper was confronted on Wednesday, January 11.

Kellyanne Conway is, at present, Trump's most aggressive spokesperson. In our view, she could have made some reasonable, limited complaints about CNN's report from the day before.

At present, there's no apparent reason to believe any of the unverified claims in the 35-page dossier. As best we can tell, one of the claims in that document instantly turned out to be false. The sexiest claim was so over-the-top that it recalled crazy unverified claims from the past, such as the claim in a number-one best-selling book that First Lady Hillary Clinton used drug paraphernalia for ornaments on the White House Christmas tree.

You'd pretty much have to be nuts to have believed something like that, but many people did believe it. In certain respects, the sexiest claim in the new dossier is almost as unlikely as that pathetic claim from the past.

Still, CNN adopted a slightly breathless air as it unveiled its new report. Here's the way Jake Tapper took the throw from Wolf during the 6 PM hour:
TAPPER (1/10/17): That's right, Wolf, a CNN exclusive.

CNN has learned that the nation's top intelligence officials gave information to president-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama last week about claims of Russian efforts to compromise president-elect Trump.

The information was provided as part of last week's classified intelligence briefings regarding Russian efforts to undermine the 2016 U.S. elections.

I have been working on this story with my colleagues Jim Sciutto, Evan Perez and Carl Bernstein. They all join me now.

Jim, let's walk through the basics here of what we know.

SCIUTTO: We will. To be clear, this has been an enormous team effort by my colleagues here and others at CNN.
For full transcript, click here.

Tapper and a cast of thousands announced that the "CNN exclusive" had resulted from "an enormous team effort" at CNN. Minutes later, Tapper introduced "the legendary Carl Bernstein, who also worked with the three of us on this story."

There was a hint of Oscar night as everyone on the team took his turn at the microphone, explaining the enormous team effort. And uh-oh! Getting way out over his skis, Sciutto was soon suggesting, wink wink wink, that the unverified claims in the dossier just might perhaps maybe be true:
SCIUTTO: The synopsis was considered so sensitive that it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government, this, of course, including President Obama, the president-elect and those eight congressional leaders.

But, Jake, we should also note that including this in these briefings given to the president and the president-elect, taking the time, while they are not verified, to take the time and include them in those very important meetings is a measure, gives a measure of at least importance to it. Not credence yet, because they haven't established it's factual. But you don't put that in there for no reason.
Wink wink, hint hint! These claims just may be true, Sciutto suggested. You don't put stuff like that in a briefing for no reason!

Sciutto didn't suggest a second possibility. He didn't suggest the possibility that the Intelligence Community included this material in the briefing, then leaked the fact that they had done so, as political payback to Donald J. Trump for the ridiculous insults he has thrown at the IC in recent weeks. Thoughts like this didn't seem to have entered the enormous team's head.

Our view? From the legendary Bernstein right on down, the CNN stars did seem to have their thumbs on the scale a tad during their somewhat breathless report. Even if all the narrow factual claims in CNN's report were accurate, it seems to us that Kellyanne Conway could have lodged a few basic complaints about the network's performance.

In our view, Kellyanne Conway could have lodged some sensible complaints about CNN's report. That said, Homey doesn't play it that way.

Conwayism has never been about the presentation of sensible observations, claims and complaints. Conwayism runs on a different fuel, and here's what it is:

The constant willingness to advance the next ridiculous claim.

Yesterday, we reviewed one striking part of Conway's performance with Anderson Cooper on Wednesday, January 11. Again and again and again and again, she kept insisting that CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's presentation of the unverified, 35-page dossier.

Almost everyone in the press corps agreed—BuzzFeed shouldn't have published the unverified collection of claims about Trump. Again and again and again and again, Conway kept insisting that CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's publication, making CNN just as guilty as BuzzFeed in this regard.

As far as we know, Conway's repeated claim was inaccurate, false, bogus, wrong. As far as we know, CNN didn't link to BuzzFeed's report, though the channel hasn't exactly broken its back to settle this apparently bogus claim in a definitive manner. (Again and again, our mainstream press corps doesn't run on facts.)

Again and again and again and again, Conway had made a cutting claim—a cutting claim which seems to have been false. That said, please understand today's basic point:

False claims are a common part of Conwayism, but they aren't its essence.

The essence of Conwayism is something slightly different. It's the willingness to advance a stream of ridiculous claims, no matter how ludicrous and absurd the various claims and complaints may be.

Conway has been practicing this culture since the mid-1990s. As she spoke with Cooper that night, she showcased this ludicrous culture in its purest form.

Even after she seemed to see that her claim about the link may have been wrong, she jumped from one ludicrous claim to another. In the process, she created a Babel—though she did so with Cooper's help.

Tomorrow, we'll look at some of the ludicrous claims Conway advanced that night. Gorilla dust was all around as her nonsense continued.

"Gorilla dust?" Ross Perot introduced the term into the political lexicon in 1992. We'll offer some background below.

That said, gorilla dust was all around as Conway created a Babel last Wednesday night. Increasingly, our public discourse functions this way.

People like Cooper help.

Tomorrow: No charge or complaint too absurd

What the heck is gorilla dust: Fortune magazine explained the term in 1987:

"Gorilla dust: When gorillas fight, they throw dust in the air to confuse each other." The magazine referred to Ross Perot as it offered this explanation.

Ross Perot commonly used the term within the political context. Within the political context, the term refers to the attempt to create massive confusion through distractions and asides, thereby eliminating the possibility of a clear discussion.

In 2011, White House press secretary Jay Carney used the term in a press briefing. Inevitably, the youngsters at the Washington Post had never heard the term.

Finally, one old-timer—he was 56—explained Perot's use of the term.

Conway threw plenty of dust during her pseudo-discussion with Cooper. In the process, she created our latest Babel.

Her crazy pseudo-discussion with Cooper produced plenty of heat but almost no light. More and more, this is the culture we've chosen.

Meanwhile, at the Washington Post, how much else sails over young journalists' heads? Youth may keep salary structures low, but it does have disadvantages.

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    because we work together. This will be the final week or work and then I
    wont be around him constantly. Unfortunately, I broke one of the rules in
    the article and have been sleeping with him. Something I’m not proud of,
    especially since he has a girlfriend. Not to mention that she’s a girl he
    dated off and on for 3 years before he dated me.
    When I asked him why he kept sleeping with me even though he was in a
    relationship, his response was because I wanted it, and he wants me to be
    happy. But obviously what would make me happy would be to have him all to
    myself. That was when i read about Dr alexzander on how he help people in
    saving their relationship and i was really desperate for his help. There
    were things in our relationship that were tough. We traveled for 4 months
    right in the beginning, and it was hard due to different expectations. When
    we returned our living situation was unstable which caused a lot of stress
    on my end. And when I ask why he didn’t give me a chance to make things
    better he said he gave me tons of chances. Oh, and he compared our
    relationship with his past. He says that things were great, and then they
    went bad really fast, and that why his back with is Ex. Because it at least
    took them years for things to get that bad. So i was very sad and
    disappointing and decided to contact this spell caster for help with tears
    running out of my eyes and Dr alexzander promised to make things right in
    my relationship and also assured me that my boyfriend is going to come back
    to me within 78hrs. At first i was shock and didn't believe him because i
    thought it was impossible to do. But i gave it a try and trusted him. Dr
    alexzander asked for my details and his, then guarantee me of his return.
    Truly my ex lover started calling me and also begging me to forgive him and
    that's his willing to give us a second chance, then promised me never to
    love any other woman apart from me. it all seem like a miracle to me till
    now. Dr alexzander. Words can't express how i feel right now. it been 2
    month now since you caste that love spell for me and nothing have gone bad
    between us. his now caring more than ever and also the loving kind of Man i
    have ever wanted for myself in life. I thank you Dr alexzander for saving
    my relationship. Indeed you are the best. I want to use this media to share
    my testimony for the whole world to see and know that there is still hope
    in your broken relationship, No matter how bad it seems don't give up hope
    and also contact this man who saved my own. you can reach him through his
    website address http://alexzanderhightemple-com.webs.com or contact him
    direct with his email address alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com. I thank you
    Dr alexzander for helping me and i will always share my testimony in every
    social media or place i may go to.
    (From United State Of America).
    Mrs Tracy Grilli.
    http://tracygrilli.blogspot.com.tr
    https://tracygrilli59.blogspot.com

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      What a miracle to have my ex back,my name is Cherry Lugard
      and i need to share this great testimony... I just want to say thanks(DR. BEN) for taking time to help me cast the spell that brings back my ex lover {now my husband},who suddenly lost interest in me after six month of engagement,but today we are married and we are more happier than never before, I am really short of words and joyful, and i don't know how much to convey my appreciation to you doctor BEN you are a God sent to restore broken relationship.he deeply enjoy helping people achieve their desires, find true love,getting their ex lovers back,stop abusive relationships,find success,attract happiness,find soul mates and more,contact him today. and let him show you the wonders and amazement of his Love Spell System. He deliver results at his best in real spell casting, email him for help on benherbaltemple@gmail.com Via website: http://benherbaltemple.webs.com/ or you can also call him on +1(310)-220-0075.











      GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK WITH THE HELP OF A POWERFUL SPELL CASTER CALLED (DR. BEN) email him on benherbaltemple@gmail.com

      What a miracle to have my ex back,my name is Cherry Lugard
      and i need to share this great testimony... I just want to say thanks(DR. BEN) for taking time to help me cast the spell that brings back my ex lover {now my husband},who suddenly lost interest in me after six month of engagement,but today we are married and we are more happier than never before, I am really short of words and joyful, and i don't know how much to convey my appreciation to you doctor BEN you are a God sent to restore broken relationship.he deeply enjoy helping people achieve their desires, find true love,getting their ex lovers back,stop abusive relationships,find success,attract happiness,find soul mates and more,contact him today. and let him show you the wonders and amazement of his Love Spell System. He deliver results at his best in real spell casting, email him for help on benherbaltemple@gmail.com Via website: http://benherbaltemple.webs.com/ or you can also call him on +1(310)-220-0075.

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  3. I just posted a comment that was censored. I am not sure whether it was removed by Somerby or by my internet provider. It disappeared.

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  4. It's a strange media world. CNN attacks Trump with lies. Conway defends Trump with lies. How do viewers decide between them? Is it based on who sounds more confident? Or perhaps based on each viewer's political leanings?

    The more one watches this kind of "news coverage", the more ignorant one becomes.

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    1. "CNN attacks Trump with lies"

      CNN reported in a factually correct manner on an opposition research dossier that may or may not be true. CNN told no lies. The dossier exists. Whether the dossier is true or not remains to be seen.

      Somerby is leaning over backwards to contend the dossier is false. We don't know that. The behavior reported is consistent with Trump behavior that has been substantiated. It is also consistent with the way Russia operates. And there has been no explanation for why Trump is pandering to Russia the way he obviously is.

      When WikiLeaks released material embarrassing to Clinton, Somerby did not suggest it might be false. There was no suggestion it could have been manufactured, although it was never "verified." It was treated by the press and by Somerby as if it were true. Now Trump is in a similar situation, but he gets a huge benefit of the doubt despite the consistency of the accusations with his known behavior.

      Somerby is perhaps doing this so that he can suggest Conway could have attacked the dossier in other ways. I believe she couldn't because the content of the dossier is factual and to deal with the claims in it would be to admit their possibility.

      We need to face the consequences of what this dossier means if it were true. Somerby is helping the Republicans evade that. Why? Our intelligence services need to check out the dossier and let us know the results, wherever they lead.

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    3. 11:54 -- "document" and "dossier" are impressive sounding words. But, all they mean is something written on a piece of paper. If someone's political enemies write some crazy malicious accusations on a piece of paper, that's a dossier. If the public becomes aware that this dossier is being investigated, some people will believe the accusations, or at least give them some credence. Responsible media are accustomed to this sort of thing, so they don't report unsupported malicious accusations by political enemies. And, they certainly don't imply that such accusations are true, as CNN did.

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    4. The report was written by Orbis, an intelligence firm contracted by a Republican opponent of Trump to do opposition research during the primaries. The author of the report is a highly respected former MI-6 agent who did excellent work exposing the corruption in the FIFA soccer scandal. He provides sources, including a member of Trump's own staff (who has been identified), to corroborate the items in the dossier. Further, some of the quid pro quos mentioned in the dossier have subsequently happened. This lends more credibility to the dossier than you are admitting.

      It may be that the author got some things wrong. It is unlikely it is all wrong. If even a few of the items are true, that is serious.

      The dossier was given to the FBI because of the serious nature of its content. The FBI did nothing, which was upsetting to those who commissioned and produced it. It was leaked because of the FBI's inaction. Speculation is that McCain leaked it. There is no evidence the CIA leaked it -- that seems unlikely.

      So, these are far from "unsupported accusations" and they do need to be investigated. The failure of the FBI to do so is troubling.

      If Trump were more transparent in his campaign, he would have less of these sort of problems. But then, he can't be, because he is Putin's puppet.

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    5. David, you may be misinformed; however, your goal of misinforming others is empty and unattainable.

      David, the dossier was prepared by a highly respected intelligence operative that has a proven reliable track record. Similarly, David, and pay attention, the actions Trump engaged in as revealed by the dossier is completely consistent with HIS track record. Trump is a well known sexist, who has engaged in numerous incidents of sexual misconduct with a large number of women. In fact Trump raped his ex wife. Furthermore, one of his best friends, Jeffrey Epstein (a convicted sex offender) held sex parties that provided people like Trump with young girls for sex, one of whom has charged Trump with rape. Interestingly Epstein apparently had cameras set up in his house to record these sexual encounters to later use for blackmail.

      David, I find the information in the dossier credible as supported by the good reputation of the author and the bad history of Trump.

      David, I think the dossier has contributed to, along with Trump's other actions such as his cabinet picks, Trump's historically low approval numbers.

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    6. AnonymousJanuary 17, 2017 at 12:40 PM -- The accusations are uncheckable. How could you check them? There's no way. Would you interview every prostitute in Russia under oath?

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    7. The accusation about the sex incident is the most trivial incident in the dossier. It provides a blackmail motive for the more serious accusations. Those can be more readily checked and some are obvious, since they concern Trump's recent actions which are public. Note that one of the several sources for the prostitute story is a member of Trump's own staff.

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    8. 5:34 -- there are no other sources. The report alleges that there are unidentified other sources, but it doesn't name any of them. None have come forward to confirm any allegation.

      The report could say there were a million sources, but if none were identified, that claim wouldn't strengthen the report. The report is unverified and its claim of several sources is unverified.

      If some Trump staffer confirmed the accusations, then the New York Times and other responsible media would have printed the story long ago.

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    9. Right, sources were not identified by Orbis, just as they would not be in an FBI or CIA report. The agent expected to be interviewed by US intelligence agencies, but was not. He is now in hiding due to threats on his life. Who do you expect would "come forward" under such circumstances?

      The main criticism is exactly the fact that the report has not been verified, because it was not investigated despite containing serious allegations made by a credible investigator.

      No Trump staffer "confirmed the accusations." The staffer told the story to the original investigator. He was one of three different, unconnected people to tell the same story. Why? Not because he was a prostitute, but because Trump likes to brag about such stuff. Anyone paying attention has heard him do so -- on Howard Stern, to Billy Bush, and in interviews published in magazines. He even invented a public relations person to be interviewed bragging about the women he has had. Trump is the ultimate source of the story, I have no doubt at all. But I have full faith that it was only told to people who would "appreciate" the disrespect shown to Obama by his actions.

      The New York Times only publishes anti-Hillary accusations. You should know that.

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    10. David, at some point you should read the 35-page report yourself. It would help you know what is being alleged and why.

      Joseph Cannon has published it online. I would imagine you can find it other places too.

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    11. 10:07 Maybe I'll read the report some day. But, it doesn't matter what it says. A document cannot validate itself. Actual people have to step forward and testify that they know it's correct and how they know it's correct.

      We've been through this with the fake George W. Bush Air National Guard document that ended Dan Rather's career. That fake report probably boomeranged and helped Bush get elected. This fake Trump report helped Trump beat up on the media at his press conference.

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    12. No one needs to step forward. The FBI needs to do its job and investigate.

      Please stop bringing up red herrings. Read the dossier or shut up. You don't know what you are talking about.

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    13. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/spy-who-wrote-trump-russia-memos-it-was-hair-raising-stuff

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  5. Have you noticed that whenever someone tries to hold Trump accountable for anything, he claims he is being attacked?

    Yesterday, Greta claimed that Trump never attacks first. He is a "counter-puncher" and responds with disproportionate force to attacks on him -- she claimed.

    If Trump considers any attempt to hold him accountable to be an attack, and he responds with a sledgehammer to those attempts, how will he be held accountable? Couple this with his belief that the president can do anything, because he is the president, and you have a recipe for oppression.

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  6. See Joseph Cannon's comments about the Firehose of Falsehood in today's post:

    Monday, January 16, 2017 -- Agents provocateurs and propagandists

    http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

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  7. Josh Marshall thinks we are clutching our pearls when we worry about what Trump may do to our free press (to begin with). He says: "If Trump should take some un- or extra-constitutional actions, we will deal with that when it happens."

    Marshall is forgetting how Hitler made his illegal actions legal. He purged his enemies and took over the courts. The courts were then afraid to render judgments against him and he was able to do what he wanted.

    Trump will soon be able to appoint a majority on the Supreme Court. If he fills all those vacant court appointments from Obama's terms, he will have a rubber stamp for his abuses.

    The equivalent of burning the Reichstag may be a terrorist attack of some kind that would enable him to round up terrorist-sympathizers and enemies of our nation.

    I hope none of this materializes, but we have here a man who never reads, but who ex-wife Ivana said had Hitler's speeches on his nightstand, who has studied der fuhrer's methods.

    We need to ask, what if Josh Marshall is wrong?

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