Is Trump some version of mentally ill?

FRIDAY, JANUARY 27, 2017

Carl Bernstein walks the line:
Remind us to tell you about the time we opened for Johnny Cash.

First, though, let's take a look at the things Carl Bernstein has said in the last four nights. We'd say that he, like Nicholas Kristof, has perhaps been walking a line.

Mental illness is a terrible thing. It robs people of their ability to do good things in the world.

Is it possible that our new president is some species of mentally ill? Monday night, speaking with Anderson Cooper, Bernstein started by offering this:
BERNSTEIN (1/23/17): We are having too many bizarre moments with this new president, as Phil Mattingly called it...Something very disturbing is going on here. I talked about the tweets being an MRI of his psyche, these remarks are likewise are an MRI of his psyche and it's not a very pretty place.
To us, that almost starts to sound like psychiatric language. For the record, these are the remarks by CNN's Phil Mattingly to which Bernstein alluded. Mattingly was describing Trump's appearance that night before congressional leaders:
MATTINGLY (1/23/17): Well, Anderson, in kind of what's being described to me at least by one source as a bizarre and awkward turn during that private meeting with congressional leadership, both Republicans and Democrats, the president recounted the idea, one that he has pushed several times in the past that between 3 and 5 million illegal votes were cast against him during the election. Now, this is something that is just not true, flatly not true. No evidence has been presented by Trump or his top associates to back up this claim that he'd made in the past on Twitter. And it's something we haven't actually heard a lot about from the president since those initial claims on Twitter. But it was brought up in a private meeting.

Now, the context of this is, the president was going through kind of a ten-minute recount of how he won the election, how the campaign all went and the congressional leaders were kind of listening intently. And then this came up. And, as I noted, as one source said it was a bizarre moment and it was a moment that the leaders kind of awkwardly just tried to move past.
Mattingly's account of "bizarre" behavior came from one unnamed source. The description isn't overtly psychiatric.

But when Bernstein returned to CNN Wednesday night, so did his semi-psychiatric allusions. On this occasion, he spoke with Don Lemon:
BERNSTEIN (1/25/17): Look, I think there is a subtext here that it is unlike anything that I have seen in fifty years of being a reporter. And that is that I'm hearing from Republicans, and other reporters are as well, that there is open discussion by members of the president of the United States' own party about his emotional maturity, stability. People are saying his psyche is driving the news cycle.

We are in uncharted territory here.
And we ought to talk to some of our colleagues about what they are hearing. I think it's, you know, it is a really fruitful area because I've never heard talking about a president the way this subtext is now talking—is now a talking point.
On this evening, Bernstein was discussing Trump's appearance before Republican leaders at their Philadelphia retreat. Later, Bernstein sounded semi-psychiatric again:
BERNSTEIN: This is why Republicans, in going to Philadelphia today, are talking to each other about his emotional maturity, stability. Look. We have a situation here where today the president of the United States told David Muir our country is falling apart. This is extraordinary. This is a broad brush, a tar brush, the likes of which I have never heard of.

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I'm going to quote a senior Republican I talked with this evening. "It's delusional." That was his word. And that is what the conversation is about among supporters of this president. He is saying things that they regard as delusional, lies and they are perplexed. And they are bothered....There is something going on here. It's about the personality and ways of Donald Trump. Maybe we will get used to them, maybe we won't. But right now there are a lot of people who are disjointed by what he is doing and they tend to be in his own party.

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We have a divided country. But he may be pushing away people who he thinks support him if he keeps lying and going to delusional ideas.
"Delusional" isn't necessarily a psychiatric term. "Lying" is a term applied to moral agents.

Still, we thought Bernstein might be walking a line this night. Last night, again appearing with Lemon, he seemed to go there again.

On this occasion, Lemon said his panel would discuss Trump's "escalating media war." Bernsetin introduced a new word—"pathology:"
BERNSTEIN (1/26/17): Look, we have two things going on at once here. We have a kind of pathology of lying, which is what we're here to discuss I believe. And we also have an enormous amount of presidential activity in the area of policy. Some of it perhaps wise, some perhaps very unwise. And we need to parse through both.

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BERNSTEIN: It's outrageous, but really the truth is "the opposition party" right now. The truth is the opponent of what Donald Trump is doing, because he and his surrogates are lying in a way that those of us who are reporters with a lot of experience, I've been around fifty years, I've never seen a president of the United States or his people lie with this kind of intensity and regularity in the first days of the presidency rather than focus on the policy.

Look what—Frank Bruni was just talking about this extraordinary thing of going to the park service to lean on the park service. This is about pathology, not policy.
"Pathology" almost starts sounding like a psychiatric term here. Late in the hour, Bernstein returned to an earlier suggestion:
BERNSTEIN: Let me just one thing very quickly about Steve Bannon, and that is that I would speculate here, not report, that he is very concerned that the story is now moving to Donald Trump's emotional stability and maturity. And reporters and Republicans on Capitol Hill are talking about it. It's a big part of the story.
According to Bernstein, reporters and Republicans are talking about Donald J. Trump's "emotional stability." At least on Capitol Hill, "it's a big part of the story."

Yesterday, we thought we saw Nicholas Kristof walking a careful line. It seems to us that Bernstein is making the same suggestion as Kristof—is suggesting that there may be legitimate issues concerning our president's mental health.

There's a background to this careful discussion. In the wake of Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign, a new rule was born.

During that campaign, some psychiatrists had psychoanalyzed Goldwater from a distance, breaking professional guidelines as they did. In the wake of that bad behavior, a new rule was born. It was decided that psychiatric language should be kept out of political discourse.

For the past fifty years, that rule has generally served us well. Some players, like Charles Krauthammer, have observed the rule by refusing to observe it. Many journalists played the shrink in the case of Candidate Gore.

(As usual, we liberals sat there and took it. Simply put, we aren't smart enough to see such things going on.)

For fifty years, most journalists have agreed that psychiatry has no place in politics. We'll suggest that, in this new case, the rule is now serving us poorly.

Is President Trump exhibiting mental health issues? Even as they walk a line, Kristof and Bernstein seem to be suggesting that possibility.

Bernstein seems to be saying that the question is being widely discussed. In our view, the president's bizarre behavior seems to suggest that this should be discussed in the open, tricky though that will be.

Speaking of mental health problems: This Tuesday, Governor Mark Dayton announced that he's been diagnosed with colon cancer. On Tuesday night, did you see a certain unnamed cable star banging away on her toy xylophone, mugging, clowning and making us love her as she announced this unfortunate news?

Producer Nick Tuths helped out with the deeply weird clowning. We can't link you to the tape. Producers at this unnamed program knew enough not to post it.

103 comments:

  1. Sixty million of my fellow citizens voted for a nut case. They aren't dealing with it. Pretending he isn't a nut case merely helps them to avoid dealing with it.

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  2. people have been questioning his emotional maturity and stability throughout the entire campaign, and the media just noticed. I am surprised to see Bob Somerby getting into psycho analysis, usually he shuns such behavior. and where does trump get his delusional ideas from, his senior advisor bannon, who has been peddling that sh*t for years!!! again, the media just noticed this!!

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    1. and wasn't Bernstein shilling against Hilary during the campaign? I thought I saw that although I could be wrong...maybe some buyer's remorse. I mean, the guy is doing exactly what he said he was going to do on the campaign trail. I think everyone just thought he was throwing out BS to get elected, they never really thought he was going to do it...now he gets elected and does it and people are worried...this country is doomed.

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    2. He also gets it from Roger Stone and Alex Jones and the alt-right crew. I think it is probably dinner table talk in the Trump home.

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  3. If Trump's actions are lawful the only way we can hope to get him is to pathologize his personality and behavior, with ideological reporters and hired quacks offering their diagnoses. Hey, it worked for the Soviets!

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    1. His actions are not lawful. There have already been lawsuits and complaints filed. These need some time to work their way through the system.

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    2. Like the voter fraud investigation that will turn up 3 million illegal votes from undocumented immigrants.

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    3. Trump will have to admit a lot more immigrants to get anywhere near that number.

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    4. He'll never get near it, and there will never be a conviction of unlawful conduct in his presidency.

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    5. anon 2:03, aka Nostradamus - no convictions of whom during his presidency? anyone at all in the whole world? You can't mean that. Anyone in his administration? - who knows, you could be right? him? - no president while in office has ever been "convicted of unlawful conduct" by a Court. Is anyone seriously saying that will happen? What's your point?

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    6. Referring to Trump himself. The original comment suggested he is not acting lawfully because there have been lawsuits and complaints filed. It was a response to the comment that tagging Trump insane is a grasping alternative to attempting to find him guilty of an illegal act.

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  4. I believe it was prostate no colon cancer.

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  5. After I read medical analysis from TV pundits and writers who promote unfounded child rape accusations I like to flip over to the horoscopes.

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  6. The man is obviously mentally unstable.

    The only satisfactory solution is to invoke the 25th Amendment and subject this lunatic to a thorough psychiatric examination by neutral doctors. Considering the fact that he refused to divulge his medical examination it's the only fair thing to do at this point.

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  7. Nick Tuths was KZ.

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  8. Trump is a bad person, immoral and unethical. I am not sure the degree to which mental illness has played a role in his bad behavior is a significant issue. I believe Trump was in control of his faculties when he raped his ex wife, when he groped all those women, when he ran all his cons to bilk people, etc ad nauseam. Trump is ego maniacal to the point where he feels justified in his abuse of other people, in his vindictiveness to those that challenge him. Increasingly, Trump is being challenged by American citizens, this seems to be causing him to lose his mind, but it is his own fault as it is his own behavior, a demoralizing situation for him no doubt.

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    1. I know I'd be demoralized if I won the presidency against every prediction.

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    2. If you win a game by cheating, you never really feel like you won, no matter how loudly you claim victory.

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  9. Trump constantly tells self-aggrandizing lies. He knows he's lying, at least half the time. That doesn't rule out a major personality disorder, which seems pretty obvious in his case.

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  10. At best Trump is erratic from moment to moment, day to day.

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  11. Lewis C -- Trump may be erratic in his words, but not in his actions. So far he has been steadfast in fulfilling his campaign promises.

    Barack Obama also told self-aggrandizing lies. One recent such was that there were scandals. Apparently the American voters like self-aggrandizing a**holes.

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    1. Now you're not even trying.

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    2. David, Trump has been very erratic with his actions. Indeed he has not been fulfilling his campaign promises. He has signed a few executive orders, which he campaigned against, and which are either obsolete or have no teeth. There is no TPP to withdraw from, for example. The hiring freeze (with federal employees the lowest in 50 years) expires in three months and is considered counter productive by most experts. The international abortion defunding is a tradition with Republican presidents, will simply be reversed next president, has no effect on US abortions. Trump promised to help the little guy, but signed away a mortgage break for working class people. The sanctuary cities order is a joke, completely toothless and will affect no one. The muslim ban is widely perceived as a mistake. Etc

      1. Wall not likely to be built, Congress not going to fund and DHS doesn't have the funds, maybe a small fence somewhere
      2. Trump wants torture, then learns it is illegal, backs down
      3. Mexico will not be paying for a wall - Mexico btw has said it will not accept deported immigrants if they have no proof of being Mexican, which they do not.
      4. Trump wants to raise taxes to build wall, then backs down
      5. We are not all saying Merry Christmas
      6. Obamacare, EPA, Common Core still here
      7. Insurance companies are already allowed to sell across state lines, it just isn't good for them. Trump has no idea about this fact, basically because he's an idiot
      8. DEMOCRATICS have introduced a bill for infrastructure, not Trump. Will be blocked by Republicans
      9. Republicans so far only promising to replace Obamacare with.............ACA! (too funny)
      10. Trump has not taken care of women
      11. Will not prosecute Hillary
      12. Not cleaning house at VA, apparently too many vets were worried he would get rid of all the Obama reforms
      13. In stark contrast to draining the swamp, has brought in familiar Wall Street and establishment faces to fill his administration
      14. Trump is getting badly out maneuvered by Mexico, Canada, and China
      15. Still have gun free zones at schools (thank goodness)
      16. Has not deported a single immigrant
      17. American spirit, if it has changed, has become hostile to Trump's presidency

      David, Trump is massively unpopular, and it is only increasing with every new action he takes. Liberals can take no joy in this, in Trump's misery, since Trump is making America suck again.

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    3. 11:04 Trump may be more popular than you realize:
      Friday, January 27, 2017

      The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove.

      The latest figures include 40% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 36% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of +4 (see trends).

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    4. David, your tendentiousness and cherry-picking notwithstanding, Trump's popularity is, as I realize, in the dumps:

      From Quinnipiac:

      "January 26, 2017 - Trump Starts In The Hole As U.S. Voters Disapprove, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Reagan, Obama Are Best Presidents In 70 Years

      President Donald Trump begins his term with a negative 36 - 44 percent job approval rating from American voters, including a negative 33 - 50 percent rating from women, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

      President Barack Obama scored a positive 59 - 25 percent approval rating in his first post- inaugural poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University on March 4, 2009.

      President Trump will be a worse president than Barack Obama, 50 percent of American voters say, and 37 percent say he will be a better president.

      "Stumbling out of the blocks, President Donald Trump is considered a divider not a uniter, flunking on honesty, empathy and level headedness, while his predecessor sees his legacy burnished by better and better numbers every polling cycle," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

      American voters give President Trump a negative 39 - 52 percent favorability rating.

      Looking at Trump's personal qualities, American voters say:
      56 - 39 percent that he is not honest;
      53 - 44 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
      62 - 33 percent that he is not level-headed"

      The Rasmussen poll has actually been trending worse for Trump, and it is the OUTLIER poll as all other polls have Trump approval from the mid 30's to the low 40's. In contrast, Obama has approval in the 60's, even in the Rasmussen poll. Trump is historically unpopular. Trump is literally the most unpopular president in history at this point in his term.

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    5. Mexican criminals will be kicked out of our country and the likelihood that Islamic refugees who are or could be radicalized will be permitted in will be greatly reduced. A conservative justice will fill the vacancy left by Scalia. The list goes on, and Trump's voters will get most of what they wanted.

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    6. Obama was already deporting illegal immigrant criminals at a high rate, Trump will do no better. It should be noted that the crime rate for illegal immigrants is lower than that of US citizens. Obama actually has deported more illegals than any other president:

      http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/

      Islamic refugees pose no risk, you are completely ignorant:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dangerous-syrian-refugees-photos_us_564baae2e4b08cda348b5499

      Democratic should filibuster any and all Trump justice nominees, just like the Republicans did to Obama.

      The list does not go on, Trump is a fraud, and he lost the popular vote by the largest margin ever. Trump is also an anomaly that will not be repeated. This is what is coming that makes Republicans shake in their poseur cowboy boots:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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    7. Why wasn't Saudi Arabia on the list of Islamic countries from which immigrants are banned? Most of the 9/11 bombers were from Saudi Arabia. Many of the jihadists recruiting in other Muslim countries are from Saudi Arabia. Why were they not listed?
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      Can it be because they are Trump's business partners? The same can be asked about the other Muslim countries not listed (Egypt, Pakistan)?

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    8. anon 1:58 - decrease Islamic refugees who are or might be radicalized - from what? .0002% to .00017%? - and will America become once again "great" - or will his nitwit policies cause economic chaos, like the last time the GOP controlled both the presidency and the congress?

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  12. I read at Huffington Post and psychology today that has narcissistic personality compulsive spectrum post traumatic deficit disorder. They have advance degrees in psychology and sociology so they know an important book called the “DSM 5” which all of us smartest know what is and for the of you what don’t it’s the diagnostic statistical manifesto written by L.Ron. Hubbard.

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  13. Trump according to Dilbert

    I’m having a fun time watching President Trump flood the news cycle with so many stories and outrages that no one can keep up. Here’s how the math of persuasion works in this situation:

    1 outrage out of 3 headlines in a week: Bad Persuasion

    25 outrages out of 25 headlines in a week: Excellent Persuasion

    At the moment there are so many outrages, executive orders, protests, and controversies that none of them can get enough oxygen in our brains. I can’t obsess about problem X because the rest of the alphabet is coming at me at the same time.

    When you encounter a situation that is working great except for one identifiable problem, you can focus on the problem and try to fix it. But if you have a dozen complaints at the same time, none of them looks special. The whole situation just looks confusing, and you don’t know where to start. So you wait and see what happens. Humans need contrast in order to make solid decisions that turn into action. Trump removed all of your contrast by providing multiple outrages of similar energy.

    You’re probably seeing the best persuasion you will ever see from a new president. Instead of dribbling out one headline at a time, so the vultures and critics can focus their fire, Trump has flooded the playing field. You don’t know where to aim your outrage. He’s creating so many opportunities for disagreement that it’s mentally exhausting. Literally. He’s wearing down the critics, replacing their specific complaints with entire encyclopedias of complaints. And when Trump has created a hundred reasons to complain, do you know what impression will be left with the public?

    He sure got a lot done.

    Even if you don’t like it.

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    1. Flim flam man, all bullshit all the time. Not Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot, but without doubt a fascist and a crude, rude, arrogant arsehole.

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    2. In fact the public is aware that Trump did not get a lot done, other than to divide, lie, and depress, as indicated in polls.

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    3. He's getting so much help from the media it's hard to know how much credit he gets for the strategy but the effect will be the same. Dilbert is right. Polls indicate a 57% approval rating.

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    4. It is obviously not Trump's strategy. As reported by Republicans close to Trump, he is demoralized by the media coverage.

      1:51 you are completely delusional as no poll indicates 57% approval rating, which would be average at this point anyway. Trump's approval ratings are in the range of mid 30's to low 40's. Trump is in fact the lowest rated president in history at this point in his term.

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    5. I'm sick of Trump.

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    6. David, Adams speaks a lot about how great Trump is at persuading but doesn't talk about the actual policies he is using his wonderful skills of persuasion to enact. That's really the issue isn't it?

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    7. Adams is a Men's Rights advocate and sexist, at home amidst the scum that orbit Trump. He wrote some funny cartoons about office life, but he is seriously messed up as a human being because he is unable to relate to women as people. That compromises his value as a commenter on Trump. It is easy to see why Adams might appeal to guys like David.

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    8. Trump won't be a popular president but that is a different question than whether he will be a good one. The current state of education is so abysmal that college graduates can only consider political questions in terms of reflexive emotional 140 character reactions and have abandoned reason. A good president in this era will likely offend the majority of citizens. Bill Clinton also discussed the desperate need to get a handle on immigration in speeches that Trump could have written and Obama discussed building a physical barrier. He called it a fence but Trump thinks bigly.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrhoVI4ZOw

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    9. You seem to have decided to change the subject.

      People are calling Trump mentally ill, not because he is unpopular or offensive, but because there is something wrong with the way he thinks, his grasp or reality, his inability to focus on the job, his preoccupation with his shoring up his ego.

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  14. The above is from Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert cartoon. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/156399716951/outrage-dilution

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    1. Here's some more stuff from (and about)Scott Adams:

      http://www.salon.com/2011/06/20/scott_adams_dilbert_rape_remarks/

      http://www.salon.com/2011/03/28/sylvia_on_dilbert/

      http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2011/03/24/scott-adams-to-mens-rights-activists-dont-bother-arguing-with-women-theyre-like-children/

      http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/11/21/scott-adams-we-live-in-a-matriarchy-because-men-have-to-get-permission-for-sex/

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    2. He predicted Trump's victory early on and he might be one of the most astute thinkers out there.

      The leftist braintrust is a joke.

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    3. He also writes some funny jokes about cubicle life. So what? Joseph Cannon also predicted Trump's election. Does that mean he is equally "astute" despite holding opinions diametrically opposed to those of Adams?

      Scott is a cartoonist. Is that who populates the rightist "braintrust"? That would make the right literally a joke.

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    4. His prediction alone isn't what makes him "astute."

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    5. A cartoonist by virtue of his occupation is no less credible as a member of a "braintrust" than a college professor or anything else you blindly assign authority to.

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    6. Now you're just being silly.

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    7. Dilbert isn't funny

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  15. Conservative cat fight:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/11/dana-loesch-defends-slam-of-flat-chested-trump-fan/

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  16. Here's an example of Trump Derangement Syndrome:
    Johns Hopkins’ Psychotherapist: “Trump dangerously mentally ill” http://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2017/01/johns-hopkins-psychotherapist-trump-dangerously-mentally-ill/

    The article points out that it's unethical and "wrong to provide a professional opinion of a public figure without examining that person and gaining consent to discuss the evaluation.” Why did Dr. Gartner commit an unethical act? It's too late to do any good, since Trump is already elected. And, the only people who will believe him are the ones who already oppose Trump. Nevertheless, DTS pushed him to violate the ethics code of the American Psychiatric Association.

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    1. Trump is already elected. The most important effort now is to maintain our own sense of reality in the face of the lying and distortions by Trump and his media people. That means (1) pointing out that Trump isn't mentally competent (that boy ain't right), and (2) contradicting his false statements at every opportunity. The goal is to maintain the nation's sense of what is real and what is not. That's why a psychiatrist might violate his own ethics code -- there is a greater good at stake.

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    2. We already know the Bastard President is a lying scumbag. The only question is whether he is so delusional he believes his own bullshit or whether he is intentionally injecting his poisonous bullshit into the body politic knowingly for some other nefarious purpose.

      The doctor from Johns Hopkins is a patriot. We need all the patriots we can get in the situation we find ourselves in now.

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    3. mm and AnonymousJanuary 28, 2017 at 10:58 AM -- In a way, I think your reference to the greater good nailed the essense of TDS. It's OK and even praiseworthy to break the rules, because one is doing so for the greater good.

      This approach has motivated some truly praiseworthy actions, e.g., by Rosa Parks. But, more often, a willingness to break the rules, thinking one is acting for the greater good, has motivated bad and even dreadful acts, such as students who annoy people studying in a college library*, Islamic terrorists, the Oklahoma City bombers, the Weather Underground. One could look at the Vietnam War as an example of LBJ acting for what he believed was the greater good. There's a dangerous, heady sensation to feeling that one can ignore the usual norms.

      * http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/library-student-shuts-protesters-becomes-viral-sensation/

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    4. Think what might have been if more people had called Hitler what he was.

      David, you are confusing professional ethics with "rules" and laws. When considering ethics, by definition, you balance good and harm involved in alternative actions. For example, a psychiatrist has an ethical responsibility to maintain client confidentiality, unless it might result in harm to another person.

      Parks engaged in civil disobedience, in which an unjust law is deliberately broken to call attention to it. Terrorism is not in that same category at all.

      You don't understand what a "norm" is, if you equate it with terrorism or with LBJ's actions as president. Your jumbled recitation of acts that have in common only that someone was distressed by them is irrelevant to what this psychotherapist did by applying his professional expertise to the evidence at hand concerning Trump's mental state.

      Trump is not normal. Even Republicans know that. Go back and review the conservative reactions to Trump during the primaries. A psychiatrist can tell us why he isn't normal, but we don't need such a person to tell us that he just isn't what anyone expects in a president.

      Who pays you to troll here? The election is over. Now you are doing the devil's work. Why?

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    5. Gays aren't normal. Normal isn't a sufficient test of much of anything. People who believe "psychotherapists" have special powers of observing and identifying personalities that qualify or disqualify them to serve as president might be the most gullible people there are.

      If in 1991 you presented any "expert" a hypothetical of the Lewinsky Oval Office scenario that actually occurred in Clinton's presidency, not one wouldn't declare that hypothetical president dangerous and unfit and a host of other disqualifying terms.

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    6. Trump is mentally ill. Gays are not. "Normal" is a major test of whether behavior is disordered or not. Psychiatrists have special training (not special powers) for diagnosing and treating those who are mentally ill. They diagnose people (not isolated actions, such as Lewinsky's sexual act with Clinton). Bill Clinton demonstrated his competence as president through his actions. Trump is demonstrating his unfitness through his actions, which are alarming not only psychiatrists and Democrats, but also his own staff. People are so upset that they are leaking their distress. Others are quitting.

      I believe Trump is headed for a breakdown. I hope he won't take the country down with him when that happens.

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    7. Trump isn't headed for a breakdown. This is a delusional level of wishful thinking with no basis in reality or logic. He is a functional, disciplined and intelligent person with an outsized ego he chooses not to conceal. The not concealing part is the only unusual personality trait.

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    8. "I believe Trump is headed for a breakdown."

      If Trump doesn't have a breakdown, that narrative isn't going to work, and it may even backfire. If Trump continues making reasonable (albeit conservative) decisions, nobody will care that some unethical shrink called him crazy. After a while, the sheer number of overblown accusations could make the public start to doubt the accusers.

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    9. Those early morning tweetstorms are mini-breakdowns.

      So, you think Trump needs to nuke someone before conservatives will believe he is deranged?

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    10. If Trump continues making reasonable (albeit conservative) decisions,...

      Build a wall. Mexico will pay later. Don't worry, we'll figure out a way later. What's 25 billion $ or so among friends? Trust me.

      Goddamn DinC, can I sell you a used car?

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    11. You're being sarcastic, mm. But, in my opinion the cost of the wall is not that much. Somebody calculated that it's the cost of running federal government for a day and a half.

      I don't care a great deal if we get reimbursed by Mexico. I always thought that was a dumb idea. My concerns are whether the wall actually gets built and whether it's effective. I'm also concerned about other steps to control illegal immigration, such as ending sanctuary cities and expanding the use of the E-Verify system.

      To me, the ideal resolution would be to legalize immigrants who are already here, BUT make it impossible for large numbers of illegal immigrants to ever again come here.

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    12. That is the ideal resolution, while also deporting criminal immigrants. From there, continue to determine how many and what kind of legal immigrants we can sustain without disastrous consequences.

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    13. David, you have no credibility. You worry about the wall and whether it's effective. Cry your crocodile tears, like Sean Spicer did at the press conference where he whined that the press was being negative and causing Trump stress. BOOHOO.

      Meanwhile, Obama and others have been doing ACTUAL work on the issue. There are 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US, only 56% are from Mexico. The number of unauthorized immigrants has been declining for years. DECLINING. There are actually LESS unauthorized immigrants each year, and this has been the trend for years. The number of apprehensions on our southern border is at a 50 year low. FIFTY YEAR LOW. The wall is a FRAUD, another waste of government funds perpetrated by the usual suspects, the know nothing Republicans. Trump has no concern over unauthorized immigrants, he is using the issue as a tool to con people, by appealing to their base nature of xenophobia and racism.

      David, you and your fake concerns and your fake president should own up and take responsibility for your crookedness.

      http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states/

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    14. the ideal resolution would be to legalize immigrants who are already here, BUT make it impossible for large numbers of illegal immigrants to ever again come here

      well you have a funny way of expressing that preference jackass, by voting for the very people who refuse to do that.

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      But now, no reasonable person can say that immigration’s death -- in 2013 and 2014 -- is anyone’s fault but House Republicans. Still, we also understand why they killed it: They saw no short-term benefit. Yes, the long-term politics (for 2016 and 2020) cry out for Republicans to remove immigration as an issue. But doing so would be so painful in the process

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  17. Digby sez:

    "That was my sense at the LA march -- this realization that no matter how insane and incompetent the man, he's always got an advantage over the most qualified woman. I saw that in my previous life over and over again. It's infuriating. And this time an awful lot of women have had it with that."

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    1. She won more votes. This is irrational. She also won more votes for being a woman than lost votes for being a woman.

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    2. She was undercut by white male voters in key blue states who didn't come out and vote. She was undercut by all those millennials who just couldn't find any enthusiasm for her as a candidate. What do you suppose that means?

      And then there was the massive effort to undercut her campaign involving Comey, WikiLeaks (noted non-feminist Assange), and Russian hackers. Because the acknowledged most competent candidate ever to run (not just the most competent female) had to be kept out of office. We do not yet know the full extent of Trump's involvement in all that, but we do know it was men, not women, who orchestrated that effort. No matter how insane and incompetent Trump is, he was preferable to those behind that cabal.

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    3. Young voters who found enthusiasm for Obama didn't find it for her because she is old. In both cases it proves the political stupidity of that age group. White men who voted for Obama and not her heard "racist" for 8 years as a response to any disagreement and sure as hell didn't want to hear "sexist" for another 8 but they knew they were in store for it because they heard her admit it in her deplorable speech.

      If it was men who hacked it is because men do most of the hacking. Women hackers would have been just as happy to do it. Hillary lost the white womens vote.

      She didn't lose because of her gender she lost because she so neatly fits into everything Trump stood against. The Obama presidency and the snowflake left overreached with "racism and sexism" and a host of policies voters in those states reject and gave rise to Trump. Hillary represented entrenched politics but probably could have won if she hadn't amplified those grievances. She did herself in.

      Obama benefitted from a monolithic black vote, racist by one definition. The women's vote isn't as monolithic but if reasons given for voting for Hillary are believed she won more gender based votes than she lost.

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    4. FWIW my feeling (POOMA) is that Hillary was hurt by sexism and also by sizism. Neither Obama nor Hillary could point to anything demonstrating managerial effectiveness. This lack mattered for Hillary, but not for tall, masculine, good-looking Obama. One might also note that Bill Clinton kept his popularity despite various scandals more than Hillary did.

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  18. At The Forward they object not merely to Trump's failure to mention the Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day, but to this clichéd statement:

    "“Yet, we know that in the darkest hours of humanity, light shines the brightest.” This is a line of rhetoric by no means restricted to Trump (consider the film “Life is Beautiful” as the most egregious purveyor of this childish nonsense), but it remains misguided and dangerous all the same. The Holocaust had stories of heroism, yes, but the empty, naive cliche about light in the darkness only diminishes the memory of the Holocaust. It is here that the most damage can be done. The Holocaust was the Götterdämmerung of Enlightenment, the moment when we realized the latent barbarism lurking beneath our culture (as Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer would write in “Dialectics of Enlightenment”). It was a break, a cataclysm against which the past and future came to be measured. It was a black hole – a pit which contains light, yes, but from which light cannot escape. We know that those scattered invisible wisps of light exist, but our focus must remain the dark. In our memory of the Holocaust, we must focus on the camps, the mobile killing squads known as the Einsatzgruppen, the collaborators. It is of the utmost importance that we constantly remind ourselves that this impulse to genocide is ever present, and that this impulse to silence and obedience in the face atrocity is ever present as well. To do otherwise, to focus on the sparse acts of heroism and kindness (a practice that Poland has recently codified) is, in a sense, Holocaust denial light. We are at risk of using Holocaust Remembrance Day as a pat on the back, as a way to remember the supposed “goodness” of humanity, as a way to indulge in the temptation to imagine ourselves as those scattered heroes of resistance, as opposed to silent bystanders or outspoken collaborators. Author and Holocaust survivor Jean Amery wrote in his book “At The Mind’s Limit,” “It goes without saying, I believe, that in Auschwitz we did not become better, more human, more humane, and more mature ethically. You do not observe dehumanized man committing his deeds and misdeeds without having all of your notions of inherent human dignity placed in doubt.” This rhetoric of light is willful blindness, it flies in the face of Amery’s writing. It is the willful refusal to confront the horrible truth that the Holocaust’s lessons are not about the dignity of humanity in the face of evil, but precisely the opposite. We must resist, now more than ever (this statement is uttered every year, and every year it is true), this focus on the light. Focus, perhaps entirely, on the dark so that we might learn of our own baseness, so that we might negatively illumine the darkness of our own time. We honor the memory of those killed, of those who survived not with congratulatory platitudes, but with true, painful, terrible remembrance.

    - From Forward.com"

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    1. Give me a break. The Forward should be pleased that Trump spoke against the Holocaust. Instead, they ding him because he didn't use the exact right words in deploring the Holocaust.

      BTW according to the New York Times, Trump's most important advisor is Jared Kushner. If the Forward weren't so terribly partisan, they'd be thrilled to see a Jew in such an important position.

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    2. Yeah, all those grimy Jews should be happy Trump threw them a few crumbs. He could be locking them up instead.

      David, are you such an idiot that you don't know that some Jews collaborated in the Holocaust? Do you suppose they are thrilled at that?

      He didn't use the "exact right words" because he doesn't remember and think about the Holocaust the way a serious, empathetic, whole human being does. He thinks about making a statement that will sound presidential. Poor man, he doesn't know how to do that because he isn't worthy of the office. Instead he makes a statement that reveals the emptiness of his soul. No doubt Bannon helped him, since it sounds exactly the right tone for his alt-right buddies.

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    3. No one should believe members of the party that does not recognize an ethical problem with abortion and wants to federally fund it are arbiters of empathy, seriousness or wholeness.

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    4. What about people who admire and make heroes out of those who throw babies into furnaces, bash their brains out against walls, or gas them to death? A man who cannot condemn that when it happens to Jews is unfit to lead.

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    5. AnonymousJanuary 28, 2017 at 1:39 PM - by any reasonable, objective measure, Trump is great for the Jews. His family is part Jewish. His most powerful advisor, Jared Kushner, is Jewish. He's a big-time supporter of Israel, unlike Barack Obama. He has been given the Tree of Life Award, the highest humanitarian award the Jewish National Fund presents to one individual or family each year in appreciation of their outstanding community involvement, their dedication to the cause of American-Israeli friendship, and their devotion to peace and the security of human life.

      The Forward is showing that their allegiance to the Democratic Party is stronger than their allegiance to Jews.

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    6. 4:16, those who do that are indistinguishable from those who do the same to any human being when self-defense is not their motive. We only universally condemn it when it happens to some classes of individuals but not others. Trump condemns both genocidees as the obvious, equal atrocities and evil they are.

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  19. The Jews, the Blacks, the Women with their grabable pussies. Trump is truly despicable. Trump knows nothing about jewish people or their issues. American jews are no fans of Israel's current regime.

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    my name is Erik Chris and i am from united state.I was diagnosed of herpes in 2016 and I tried all possible means to get cure but all to no avail until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal doctor called doctor omole who prepare herbal medicine for me, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contact this herbal doctor via his email i bought the herpes herbal medicine and received it through speedy within 5 working days and used it as prescribed, i tested negative to herpes virus within 12 days of usage. if you're interested in using his medicine too, here is doctor email doctoromoleherbalhome@gmail.com ..... i know a lot of people are living with herpes, knowing and unknowingly to them and doctor omole is the key to your solution and he is not from Africa because there are many scammers from Africa.

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  35. After 15 year of our faithful marriage my husband still cheated on me.i never knew my husband have herpes and he never told me that he caught herpes,until i was noticing some changes in my body such as itching,tingling and burning:before the blister appear.so i decided to visit the hospital,and the doctor confirm me herpes positive.i was crying at the hospital,Because for Good 15 years of our marriage i have being faithful to my husband i never cheated on him.When i got home i told him that he cheated on me he denied to me.I ask him if he did not cheated on me, how come i contacted herpes.i was searching the internet on how to get the Herpes cure,i meet several comment.but i find out that most people who has being cure from this same herpes are all talking about doctor omole herpes cure.so i mail him about my cure too and he reply my mail that same day,and i explain my present predicament to him and how i manage to get his contact.he request for my personal info wish i send to him.he told me that the herbal medicine is free,it not for sales.after much conversation,he send me the herbal medicine wish me and my husband use for 8 days as we were told by him.before that 8 days complete i found not that all the pain,itching e.t.c. were all gone.after 10 days me and my husband visit the hospital,what marvel me was that doctor confirm me and my husband herpes negative.i am here to tell the whole world to help me to thanks doctor omole for restoring my life back to me and my family and to also let them know that there is cure for herpes.if you're having herpes,cancer,epilepsy,ulcer or stroke e.t.c kindly email him through ( doctoromoleherbalhome@gmail.com )

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  36. I GOT CURED FROM HERPES WITHIN 8 DAYS, AFTER USING DR OOSA HERBAL MEDICINE.

    I caught genital herpes from my ex boyfriend who never had any symptoms. I have had it for 4 months now,and it has affected my life. I have told my husband who I trusted about it and I have never had a bad reaction, it has affected my new relationships with my husband. People think herpes is really a minor skin irritation herpes has a long term effects on health. The stigma attached to this virus by ignorant people is ridiculous. Most people have herpes in one form or another. I would like to advise people on how i get rid of my herpes.i was reading a comment on the internet,and i saw a testimony posted by a woman from island that she get rid of her herpes with the help of doctor oosa. so i was so happy when i saw that post,that his herbal medication is free.i quickly collect the herbal doctor email and i email him within 5 hr he respond to my email.i explain things to him he told me not to worry that i should fill his herbal form wish i did.he only request for little money that he will use to buy the items for the preparation of the herbal medicine,wish i send to him because the pain was too much for me to bear.after some days he told me that he has prepare the herbal medicine,that i should send him my address that he want to sent it to me via DHL or FED-EX that was how i got the herbal medication.and i use it as i was told.after few days i found out that my herpes was no more.when some of my friend who has herpes saw me they were surprise and i also introduce them to the man and they are also cure from the same herpes.if you have herpes,kindly contact doctor oosa via this email doctoroosaherbalhome@gmail.com . i know people might be wondering why posting such things online but i am gland and i want each and everyone living with herpes to know that there's herpes cure because i have suffer for so many years searching for this cure

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  37. HOW I GOT CURED FROM HERPES VIRUS I was diagnosed of HERPES Virus in 2014 and I have tried all I can to get cured but all to no avail, until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbalist man who prepare herbal medication to cure all kind of diseases including HERPES virus, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try , when i contact this herbalist via his email and he prepared a HERPES herbal cure and sent it to me via UPS delivery company service, when i received this herbal cure, he gave me step by directions on how to apply it, when i applied it as instructed, i was totally cured of this deadly disease within 14days of usage, I am now free from the deadly disease called herpes, all thanks to DR.AGBEBAKU. Contact this great herbal doctor via his email:dragbebakuspellsolutiontemple@gmail.com or dragbebakuherbalhome@yahoo.com call or whatsapp him on his mobile number (+2349053099479).see more at: https://dragbebakuherbalho.wixsite.com/solutioncenter

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  38. I never knew people still have powers and make things happened this way. My name is Sandra Ruths am from London. my boyfriend Slay Scot left me for another girl for three months' ever since then my life have been filled with pains sorrow and heart break because he was my first love who dis virgin me when i was 21 years old. about two years ago, A friend of mine kido matthew told me he saw some testimonies of this great Dr osauyi that he can bring back lover within some few days, i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest surprise after three days my boyfriend is going to call me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me and that he is so sorry for every thing he made me went through. i still can't believe it, because it highly unbelievable it just too real to be real. Thank you Dr osauyi for bringing back my lover and also to my lovely friend who interceded on my behalf, for any one who might need the help of this great priest here is the email address Osauyilovespellhelp@gmail.com or you can call the great man on +2347064294395

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