CONWAYISM AND BABEL: Twelve angry claims!

MONDAY, JANUARY 16, 2017

Part 1—Twelve angry claims which were false:
She wasn't named for Conway Twitty. And she didn't marry Tim Conway.

Despite these disadvantages, Kellyanne Conway has become a powerful force within the world of Donald J. Trump.

The president-elect's rhetorical style is often referred to as Trumpism. If we lived in a different kind of world, competent intellectuals would be working to define the elements of that style.

We don't live in that kind of world. We do live in a world whose public debate is increasingly being shaped by Conwayism. This fact became more clear last Wednesday night, January 11, on Anderson Cooper's CNN show.

The previous day, all Hell had broken loose. Late Tuesday afternoon, CNN had reported that the nation's intelligence chiefs had briefed Trump on the contents of the latest "dodgy dossier," a 35-page collection of unverified claims about Trump.

A few hours later, BuzzFeed actually published the full contents of the dodgy document. The dossier had been floating around for months. Because its claims were unverified (and may in some cases have sounded crazy), no one else had published it.

Suddenly, BuzzFeed did, inanely saying that people could make up their minds for themselves about the array of charges.

CNN's report about the intelligence briefing had preceded BuzzFeed's document dump. Here's the way Jake Tapper reported to Wolf during Tuesday's 6 PM hour:
TAPPER (1/10/17): That's right, Wolf, a CNN exclusive.

CNN has learned that the nation's top intelligence officials gave information to President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama last week about claims of Russian efforts to compromise president-elect Trump.

The information was provided as part of last week's classified intelligence briefings regarding Russian efforts to undermine the 2016 U.S. elections.

I have been working on this story with my colleagues Jim Sciutto, Evan Perez and Carl Bernstein. They all join me now.
It was a CNN exclusive. Excitement seemed to be running high at the pundit-rich cable channel.

In our view, the excitement overrode good journalistic practice in certain ways during's Tapper's report. Eventually, though, it came to seem that CNN's report had basically been accurate.

CNN broke its exclusive late Tuesday afternoon. A few hours later, BuzzFeed went all in, publishing the entire dodgy dossier/memo/report, which ran 35 pages.

By Wednesday, Trump spokesperson Kellyanne Conway was very unhappy about this whole affair. As a result, CNN's Anderson Cooper taped a 25-minute interview with Conway.

Cooper played tape of the entire interview during his program last Wednesday night. During that session, we got to see the general shape of the rhetorical style called Conwayism. We also saw some of the journalistic failings which help make the style so effective.

Which attributes of Conwayism were on display Wednesday night? For today, let's restrict ourselves to one aspect of Conwayism—the ability to make an angry claim again and again and again and again, even if the angry claim in question is factually false.

Let's be fair! At some point, almost everyone ends up making false or shaky claims. It also seems that certain people make many more such claims than is the statistical norm.

During her session with Cooper, Conway launched her false claim quite quickly. Below, you see the way the interview started. We highlight the bogus claim to which we refer:
COOPER (1/11/17): Kellyanne, at today's press conference, Sean Spicer conflated unsubstantiated claims that BuzzFeed released with what CNN reported. And I was surprised by that, because he said BuzzFeed and CNN made the decision to run with the unsubstantiated claim.

That's simply not true. I mean, what CNN said is that CNN is not reporting on details of that memo, as it is not independently corroborated the specific allegations.

Do you acknowledge here and now that CNN did not release the 35-page unsubstantiated claims against Donald Trump and it was misleading and untrue for Sean Spicer to suggest otherwise?

CONWAY: No, our incoming press secretary, Sean Spicer, was exactly right, as was the president-elect, Anderson. CNN went first yesterday and BuzzFeed went second.

COOPER: We didn't report what BuzzFeed reported.

CONWAY: I didn't say that you did, but you linked to it in your story.
To watch the full interview, just click here.

Let's be candid. In part because of Cooper's shortcomings, this conversation was already a bit of a Babel.

That said, Conway had already seemed to make a fairly specific claim. She seemed to be claiming that CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's publication of the 35-page dossier/memo/report.

Is that what Conway meant when she said, "You linked to it in your story?" Few things ever became clear during Cooper's 25-minute tussle with Conway. But it's fairly clear that Conway was claiming that CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's posting of the dossier, or to the BuzzFeed report which presented the dossier.

Again and again and again and again, Conway restated her slightly murky complaint: CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's publication of the 35-page dossier! By our count, she went on to make some version of this angry claim eleven more times.

That made it twelve angry claims in all. It was Classic Conwayism:
Conway's twelve angry claims:
1) "...you linked to it in your story."

2) "And so were you. You linked to—"

3) "Why do you link to the BuzzFeed story in your report?"

4) "If you couldn't corroborate it, why would you even link to it? Why are you linking to fake news?"

5) "Why are you linking to this stuff? You know the Michael Cohen—you know the Michael Cohen who is mentioned in that report is not the Michael Cohen who works at the Trump organization."

6) "You're linking to the BuzzFeed report."

7) "It's mentioned in here. I'm looking at the updated CNN report. I read it right before we came on air."

8) "It's on your website. But anyway, it's on CNN.com."

9) "I think if you link to something on your website, you're reporting it."

10) "No, no, hold on! You can't say you're not reporting it if it's on your website."

11) "If you say that CNN's not reporting on something but it's on your website, does that mean CNN is not reporting on it? Because I think they are."

12) Sarcastically: "The BuzzFeed report, the BuzzFeed story is not linked on your website, it's not mentioned in the story?"
If you read the transcript or watch the tape, you'll see that it's perfectly clear. In these repeated statements, Conway was claiming that CNN had linked in some way to BuzzFeed's publication of the 35-page dossier.

During the first half of her interview with Cooper, Conway made this claim again and again and again. Suddenly, though, she stopped making the claim. We'll speculate about the reason for that below.

Again and again and again and again, Conway made her angry claim. At CNN.com, CNN had linked to BuzzFeed's publication of the 35-page dossier!

If you watch the first half of the videotape, you'll be seeing one key part of Conwayism in action. We refer to the ability to make an angry claim again and again and again.

Having said that, let us also say this. As best we can tell, Conway's angry claim was false. She made her claim again and again, but she was wrong every time.

Conway kept insisting that CNN had linked to the dossier, or perhaps to BuzzFeed's report presenting the dossier. At one point (see number 7 above), she even said that she was looking at the CNN report which contained the link. She said she'd checked it "right before we came on the air" (presumably, right before they started taping).

Angrily, Conway kept making her angry claim. In the course of her tirade, she insisted, several times, that CNN should "clean house," so horrible had their overall journalism been the previous day.

It's a basic tenet of Conwayism. You keep repeating your angry claim, again and again and again. But uh-oh! As best we can tell, in this instance, Conway's claim was false.

As best we can tell, CNN didn't link to the dodgy dossier, or to the BuzzFeed report about it. But here's another problem:

When Cooper sat for his interview with Conway, it seems he didn't know that.

As Conway made her repeated claim, Cooper offered various responses. At several points, he clearly said that CNN hadn't linked to BuzzFeed.

Eventually, though, he flatly said he didn't know whether CNN had done so. This was Cooper's response to Conway's twelfth angry claim:
CONWAY: If you say that CNN's not reporting on something, but it's on your website, does that mean CNN is not reporting on it? Because I think they are.

COOPER: BuzzFeed is not on our website.

CONWAY: OK. The BuzzFeed report, the BuzzFeed story, is not linked on your website, it's not mentioned in the story?

COOPER: I don't know. I don't know all of what's on digital program.

CONWAY: I do!

COOPER: I'm told it's not, but I don't believe that it is. I find it weird that CNN—and frankly, if CNN linked to the BuzzFeed stuff, that seems to me inappropriate. And if CNN does that, I would not, I would not support that. But as far as I know, that is not the case. I'm certainly going to check out our website and I urge people to go to our website right now and check it out for themselves.
By this time, complete confusion reigned about an array of points. As we'll see in our next few reports, Cooper and Conway created a total Babel in an array of ways.

That said, Conway stopped making her angry claim at this point, perhaps because Cooper said he'd been told that her angry claim was wrong (presumably by a producer). We'd don't know if that's why Conway suddenly dropped her repeated claim. But we'd call that a decent conjecture.

At any rate, Cooper had finally said it! He finally said that he didn't know if CNN had linked to the BuzzFeed report. Earlier, he'd seemed to say that CNN didn't link. Now, surrounded by a Babel, he said something quite different.

We wouldn't say it was Cooper's "fault" that he didn't know, coming in, whether CNN had linked. You can't know what sorts of claims will be made until someone like Conway starts making them.

We wouldn't say it was Cooper's "fault" that he didn't know whether CNN had linked to BuzzFeed. But again and again, Conwayism feeds on journalistic ignorance, incompetence and deference to power—attributes which are legion.

Today, we've seen one small part of the rhetorical style known as Conwayism. In Conwayism, you make your angry, angry claims again and again and again.

Your anger may overwhelm your accuracy, as seems to have occurred in this instance. But within the world of Conwayism, this may not gigantically matter.

Concern about accuracy may not be a major part of Conwayism. We'll be honest with you one more time:

We see a similar style at work on some of our own tribe's favorite programs. Did you happen to see a certain unnamed cable star bungling facts last Thursday night as she told us about Trump's "lies?"

Tomorrow: Basic tenet: You must always be willing to move to the next ridiculous claim

37 comments:

  1. Conway was wrong on a bunch of details, but CNN was totally in the wrong from the getgo. Here's an analogy to see why:

    On a piece of paper, I write, "Bob Somerby tortures puppies". Buzzfeed reports that there's an unverified document saying, "Bob Somerby tortures puppies". That's literally true. Such a document exists. But it's improper reporting, because the story is so preposterous that it's almost surely invalid.

    CNN reports fewer details, merely that there's a story out there about Bob Somerby mistreating animals. That's also improper reporting, because CNN's story is based on the same invalid document.

    CNN's reporting was more unfair than Buzzfeed's in one way. Buzzfeed's details were so ridiculous that one could see immediately that it was almost surely bogus. CNN's more vague report was less obviously fake.

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    1. 1. It was wrong of the FBI not to investigate the charges brought to it concerning Trump and Russia.
      2. It is the duty of the press to expose coverups, especially serious ones like this that potentially affected an election and the security of our country.
      3. The nature of the document was not misrepresented by Buzzfeed or CNN but it has been misrepresented by those who imply that "unverified" means the same thing as "dodgy."
      4. The decision to print the document is entirely consistent with the way the media treated the WikiLeaks material stolen from the DNC and Podesta, and similarly unverified and possibly untrue.
      5. The decision to print the material was based partially on the fact that the material was in wide circulation in Washington and behind the scenes and was only withheld from the American people.
      6. Given 1-5 above, it would have been better and more fair had this material been printed before the election.

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    2. A deflection and a phony attack on CNN from a Trump parrot.

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    4. 12:59, you argue well. But, every major news organ disagrees with you. They all had the story and chose not to run with it.

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    5. This is the danger Trump poses to our democratic system. A free press should not be intimidated by the incoming president and should report whatever is in the public interest. Instead, we have seen major news organs pandering to Trump on everything, including this report.

      You are incorrect. Every major news organ includes CNN. I wouldn't call Buzzfeed a major news organ, but I do call them courageous.

      I don't determine what is true (or what is right) by counting the number of major news organs that publish a story. Do you? It would explain a lot.

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    6. True? Nobody thinks the charges are true. The question is whether it was proper journalism to report lurid charges that are pretty obviously false.

      Intimidated? Give me a break! Major media aren't intimidated. On the contrary, they're doing everything possible to report negatively about Trump. E.g., listen to this snippet where reporters try to put words into the mouth of Martin Luther King III. Fortunately, King resisted their shameless efforts to get him to criticize Trump. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/16/watch-pathetic-reporters-plead-with-martin-luther-king-iii-to-attack-trump-for-news-cycle/#more-127142

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    7. Troll doesn't know the difference between false and unverified. Figures.

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    8. I think at least some of the charges are true. Several are very consistent with Trump's behavior and some have been confirmed by subsequent events. The report needs investigation. An innocent person would insist on it, to clear himself.

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    11. DinC pronounces, based on nothing, "Nobody thinks the charges are true."

      That would mean "nobody" in his country club foursome yesterday.

      bwahahahahaha!!!! Excuse me, I just can't stop laughing at you. Just curious DinC, if it turns out that some of is true and the shitstained pussygrabbing fraud tax cheat pervert is also a treasonous bastard, would it bother you that you supported him? Serious question.

      payback's a bitch, ain't it, you twisted troll.

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    12. mm - Yes, it would bother me.

      But, note that this issue has disappeared from most of the media. As a practical matter, on this issue, Trump won.

      A question for you, mm (and other Trump opponents): If Trump does well as President, bringing prosperity, weakening or defeating radical Islam, improving the inner cities and providing racial healing, would that bother you?

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    13. David, the minute the Bastard President is sworn in he will be in violation of the Constitution. I'm quite sure that doesn't bother you.

      But your asinine question is very revealing. That's the difference between RWNJ's like you and sober progressives like myself. I don't want some mythical strongman to ride in on his white horse to solve all the country's problems. That's idiotic and childish. That's not how it's done. Your fucking obstructionist republicans wouldn't ever work with President Obama, your fucking republican congresscritters made it their treasonous duty to never work with the black Democratic president, to the point where your wretched traitorous congresscritters denied the duly elected President by a true majority of the country to even appoint a SCOTUS in his last year. That's some poisonous wretched shit right there, and the D's should at this point filibuster for 4 years deny that treasonous Bastard President the appointment that belonged to my president.

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    14. mm -- what violation of the Constitution?

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  2. Somerby says: "If we lived in a different kind of world, competent intellectuals would be working to define the elements of that style."

    During the campaign, I walked by a classroom in the university where I teach and overheard a professor explaining in great technical detail the mechanisms by which Trump persuaded his followers. I assume it was a Communications or Linguistics course. I stood and listened while that professor dismantled a Trump speech, highlighting specific words and phrases to show students exactly how Trump persuaded.

    This was bold of that professor because, being a public funded university, we are specifically forbidden to engage in political activities on the public's dollar. The same applies to time spent writing editorials or articles for public consumption, unless it is our field of study and relevant to our research. I could not make the same presentation in my classroom because I do not teach communications and it wouldn't be relevant to my course content.

    Somerby likes to bash professors. He does this with complete misunderstanding of their role in our society. He confuses them with the bohemian intellectuals who thrived in NYC back when rents were cheap.

    Somerby could be writing the stuff he wants to hear, but he wastes his time on Conway instead. Why?

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    1. You teach at a state university and you have to ask why?
      Conway is the latest iteration of someone who obfuscates, lies, propagandizes, misinforms, and distracts. Despite his efforts over these many years, Somerby has to contend with people like you who would rather sleep in the woods while people like Conway and Trump do their evil deeds.

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    2. Somerby doesn't have his hands tied the way we do. You might say he is sleeping when he attacks easy targets in the press instead of going after Trump and his flying monkeys.

      We are all going to have to find our spine because the tactics of intimidation can be applied to any and all of us. We all have something to lose, and Trump will be reminding us of that, just as he has threatened to take away the comfy White House Press Room for some minor misbehavior. What will happen when journalists are "investigated" (perhaps for leaks) and jailed? The stakes are higher now than when it was just a matter of taking potshots at Hillary.

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  3. "The president-elect's rhetorical style is often referred to as Trumpism. If we lived in a different kind of world, competent intellectuals would be working to define the elements of that style."

    Apparently, Brother Somerby has never heard of George Lakoff.

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    1. I suppose there must be a second year business major somewhere who both is maintaining a credible "B" average and knows less about basic marketing concepts than George Lakoff, but that student would be hard to find. I seldom agree with Ezra Klein's take on things but, even though he goes too far in crediting Lakoff at all, Klein does make the essential point about the Berkeley professor in the matter at hand:

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      [QUOTE] Geroge Lakoff -- I'm sorry to say -- is absolutely horrible at framing things. No, I mean it, the guy is atrociously fucking bad at it. He's a perfectly good guru because he understands what framing is and why it's important and I'm glad that Democrats are realizing we need to put some thought into our language, but Jesus Christ, has anybody actually read his book? He's the worst goddamn framer I've ever read. Democrats should be the nurturing parent? Are you kidding me?

      After the election, I read Lakoff's book for a review I was doing. I was stunned. The guy's recommendations seemed completely ignorant of everything else he said....
      [END QUOTE]

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    2. Lakoff has no data to back up his ideas about political metaphors. He doesn't do empirical research.

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  5. Wasn't Cooper wearing an earpiece, allowing some CNN grunt to check and report to him whether any link was made?

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  6. For a couple of days CNN didn't appear to know whether there was a link or not. Conway thought there was, but the bigger complaint about CNN pimping the trashy false report is still valid.

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  7. Democrats are angry about Comey reporting accurate information about an investigation but happy about the media reporting leaked lies about Trump.

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    1. Comey had no business: (1) scolding Clinton for carelessness while exonerating her, (2) reopening the investigation of her without any cause (based on Weiner's computer), and (3) sending a letter to Congress right before the election. He should have investigated but kept his mouth shut about all of it, given that no charges were warranted by the outcome of their investigation.

      The media reported something that had become common knowledge. Republican adversaries of Trump commissioned Orbis to collect opposition research on Trump. That report included info considered important to national security and was thus given to the FBI who apparently did nothing to investigate further despite the seriousness of the content. We know this because Orbis was not contacted to obtain additional facts redacted from the report (e.g., sources).

      The report itself most likely came from McCain not the CIA as Trump has been claiming. That makes it not a leak at all, but a tip.

      Conservatives have been muddying the water by reporting these circumstances falsely, in order to make fatuous comparisons like the one you have made here.

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  8. I want you all to know that you can still get your ex back if you only can contact this Great spell caster Priest Ajiga, i also want you all to know that you can have a happy and peaceful home with the help of this great man, i now call him my spiritual father because he saved my marriage at the edge of divorce. For 3 years now i have been enjoying a happy and peaceful marriage. I was lucky to have contact with Priest Ajigar 3 years ago After my husband left me. I have directed so many women to him through this medium and they are all enjoying a happy relationship with their partner. If you have any relationship issue the best decision is to contact Priest Ajigar because he is the only spell caster i believe and he always prove his divine powers and give everlasting solution to relationship issues no matter how difficult you may look at your situation with no hope but Priest Ajigar will solve it. Here is the great mans email: priestajigarspells@live.com To all listeners try this man with faith if you have any problem even if its other issues like fertility problems in your marriage.

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  9. What I learned from TDH: it is "inane" to report on the briefings given by the heads of the CIA, FBI, and NSA to the President and President-elect. Instead, media outlets should keep secret from the public the topics of discussion among our political elite.

    But since these political figures all actually met while on the public payroll, what should the press say was discussed? Should they make something up? Should they pretend the meetings didn't happen?

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  10. Hello,
    I Read the article of a very great spell caster and it seems very helpful
    to me. I haven’t had the chance to have a proper relationship with my ex
    because we work together. This will be the final week or work and then I
    wont be around him constantly. Unfortunately, I broke one of the rules in
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    especially since he has a girlfriend. Not to mention that she’s a girl he
    dated off and on for 3 years before he dated me.
    When I asked him why he kept sleeping with me even though he was in a
    relationship, his response was because I wanted it, and he wants me to be
    happy. But obviously what would make me happy would be to have him all to
    myself. That was when i read about Dr alexzander on how he help people in
    saving their relationship and i was really desperate for his help. There
    were things in our relationship that were tough. We traveled for 4 months
    right in the beginning, and it was hard due to different expectations. When
    we returned our living situation was unstable which caused a lot of stress
    on my end. And when I ask why he didn’t give me a chance to make things
    better he said he gave me tons of chances. Oh, and he compared our
    relationship with his past. He says that things were great, and then they
    went bad really fast, and that why his back with is Ex. Because it at least
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    alexzander asked for my details and his, then guarantee me of his return.
    Truly my ex lover started calling me and also begging me to forgive him and
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    now. Dr alexzander. Words can't express how i feel right now. it been 2
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    social media or place i may go to.
    (From United State Of America).
    Mrs Tracy Grilli.
    http://tracygrilli.blogspot.com.tr
    https://tracygrilli59.blogspot.com

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  11. My ex and I were together for 5 years. We lived together and were engaged. We went on a trip with friends and his family and had a nasty fight and broke up. We both moved out of our home and with our parents. We decided to go no contact for a month and 2 weeks in he started dating a girl and took her on a trip to California ( where we’ve gone the last 2 years on my bday) on my birthday weekend! After battling it out thru emails and a few meetings we finally came to see each other all of last week, i love him so much and i was so desperate to have him back coz i new that girl was not the right person for him so i have to save my relationship and reunite with me ex again so i try all i could to bring him back but all to avail i have be in contact with so many spell caster who only too my money and still nothing good work out of it, i ws so confuse and devastated one day trying to search on facebook, i come across a wonderful testimony of a lady on how a spell caster who she contacted also for love spell help her and bring her husband back to her with-in less day 2 days after the spell i was so fill with joy coz this lady meant my day and i regain my hope back so i directly and desperately email http://happyspelltemple.webs.com/ coz i love my ex so much and i want him back all to my self so with-in 5 min,Dr happy email me back with hope and told me that i have found solution in him that i should worried no more so i did all he ask of me and he gave me assured and guarantee that my ex will come back so i believed and was so gifted all to my surprise after the spell my ex call, come to my working beg and apology for his mistake,and he said sorry for the nasty break up that he was inconsiderate of my feelings nt in tend to hurt me. i can testify with the power love spell of Dr happy me and my ex are happily married now thank you Dr happy i will for ever be grateful to you and keep sharing your testimony if you need help or love spell fine it difficult to get back with your ex, email happylovespell2@gmail.com or call his mobile number on +2348133873774

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  12. Good day, I Am Suzy Parker. I'm from United States Of America, I want to quickly write on a Powerful Love spell Caster that helped me when i had a misunderstanding with my husband which leads to Divorced, I contacted this Powerful spell caster for help and He actually helped me without running away with my money.I follow the step that he ask and within 48 hours my husband called me and was eager for my forgiveness and that he wished nothing more than to have me in his arms forever. I am filled with so much joy and happiness that I found Dr. Iyaryi, I hope you all here will find this testimony of mine and get your husband back in just 48 hours. He did a perfect work for me. I am So Happy and Excited because as i am writing this Testimony, My husband is madly in love with me again. If there is any body Out there who is in Difficulties and need help should kindly Contact Dr. Iyaryi on His Email ID driayaryi2012@hotmail.com and he is Ready to Help you no matter the Situation, Here is His Valid Email ID: driayaryi2012@hotmail.com And also Reach him on WhatsApp Number: +2348056932763 Thanks Dr. Iyaryi

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  13. I know people will be complaining about their marriage, and their relationship, especially the women, they usually complain about their husband does not love them anymore, their husband is cheating on them and even their husband left them, but my case was similar to theirs, my name is sonia Walker, I am from Texas, USA, I had a very similar case with theirs, my husband, Walker left me with my two kids, for no reason, he said he does not love me anymore, he left for about 5 years, he never called me even my kids, I had a friend, Anita, she had a case similar to mine but her husband is now with her, I told her my problems I was facing, she told me about a great man that helped her to solve her problems, she introduced me to the great Baba ubeji, a man with great powers and kindness, he told me that my problems will be solved, so I believed, then after one week, it was unbelievable my husband came to me asking me for forgiveness, I accepted him, he has changed some much since when he came back, I just want to thank, the great Baba ubeji for his understanding and love, my friends if you are facing similar problems with me and even some other problems, he introduced me to some people he has helped, he can also help with solutions to some problems, like;
    Cancer Spell:
    Pregnancy Spell:
    Protection Spell:
    Becoming a Manager Spell: Getting Your Lover back:
    Getting your Scam Money Back: long life Spell:
    Beauty Spell:
    Becoming rich and famous Spell:
    if you have a similar case to these problems and you want solutions, and even some problems you may have and you need solutions, you can email him at: greatbabaubeji@gmail.com

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  14. I am Fatima Melim, i will like to let everyone know that there is a true and real spell caster out there and he has helped me in so many way just a few days since i came in contact with him through the help of my good friend who introduced me to him. he did a love spell for me and assured me that after 2days, my ex husband will return to me and to my greatest surprise the 2day my ex came knocking at my door begging for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again. Once again thank you Dr, Adodo, You are truly a great man wow this man has brought back the joy in my life that was stolen and now i live a better and sound life. he bring back my divorce husband home with his love spell, when i lost my husband.he is true to his word and he is here in the world to help mankind. he is the realest of all spell caster online. he is Dr Adodo. you can get him via email: dradodojattotemple@yahoo.com and i swear a trial will convince you and you will be a happy with you lover again Whatspp +2349057517051

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  15. Hello, i am Jessica Wayne from TX, USA. Life without my husband was a real mess for me and my children I am so happy to get my Ex back through the help of Dr Noble the spell caster . My greatest surprise was that 48 hours after the Doctor prepared the spell for me, my husband who has abandoned me for 4 years suddenly called me unexpectedly and am so happy that we have come to become one again through the help of Dr Noble and am so happy to be with my husband once again. Dr Noble is a very wonderful spell caster, you can contact him if you need his assistant because i know he can also help you. contact him through his email: templeofjoyandprosperity@gmail.com +2349039520524 immediately

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  16. I know people will be complaining about their marriage, and their relationship, especially the women, they usually complain about their husband does not love them anymore, their husband is cheating on them and even their husband left them, but my case was similar to theirs, my name is sonia Walker, I am from Texas, USA, I had a very similar case with theirs, my husband, Walker left me with my two kids, for no reason, he said he does not love me anymore, he left for about 5 years, he never called me even my kids, I had a friend, Anita, she had a case similar to mine but her husband is now with her, I told her my problems I was facing, she told me about a great man that helped her to solve her problems, she introduced me to the great Baba ubeji, a man with great powers and kindness, he told me that my problems will be solved, so I believed, then after one week, it was unbelievable my husband came to me asking me for forgiveness, I accepted him, he has changed some much since when he came back, I just want to thank, the great Baba ubeji for his understanding and love, my friends if you are facing similar problems with me and even some other problems, he introduced me to some people he has helped, he can also help with solutions to some problems, like;
    Cancer Spell:
    Pregnancy Spell:
    Protection Spell:
    Becoming a Manager Spell: Getting Your Lover back:
    Getting your Scam Money Back: long life Spell:
    Beauty Spell:
    Becoming rich and famous Spell:
    if you have a similar case to these problems and you want solutions, and even some problems you may have and you need solutions, you can email him at: greatbabaubeji@gmail.com

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  17. Hello everyone, I was infected with the herpes virus and I got cured of the herpes virus few months ago after i contacted Dr Ekpiku. I saw a post on the internet after i have seek healing for several years from different doctors in California. I sent the Doctor a request for help, just a few email i followed his instruction and he sent me the medication after i paid him. Now i am negative and i referred him to all my friend who had this same sickness and they have gotten their cure too. You can contact him via his email.Ekpikuspellhomeofgrace@hotmail.com or Ekpikuspellhomeofgrace@gmail.com or Phone call: 2348073673757. While i was on his medication i understood that he can also cure HERPES, HIV/AIDS, CANCER, Male/female menopause, Miscarriage, Menstruation problems, PREGNANCY PROBLEM, EPILEPSY, GONORRHEA, LASSA FEVER, OBESITY, KIDNEY FAILURE, HYPERTENSION, FIBROID TUMOR and many more.

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