BREAKING: Clyburn endorsement v. Warren statement!

FRIDAY, MARCH 6, 2020

As the liberal tribe burns:
We're not sure we've ever seen anything quite as dumb as the Candidate Warren post-mortems which are now being mass produced all across the press. At this point, the alleged "thought leaders" of our tribe are just completely helpless.

Starting tomorrow, we plan to compare James Clyburn's endorsement of Candidate Biden to the endless, heavily scripted excuse-making in the wake of Candidate Warren's withdrawal. I really don't think I've ever seen the liberal tribe seem so completely clueless.

I'll offer just one point today. It concerns Warren's recent statement, which is now being treated like it's on a par with E = mc2:
Gender in this race—you know, that is the trap question for every woman. If you say, Yeah, there was sexism in this race, everyone says, "Whiner." And if you say, There was no sexism, about a bazillion women think, "What planet do you live on?"
Forgive us, but if those are the only two answers to that question a politician can come up with, that person should never have run for the White House in the first place. Is there any expectation of basic competence within our tribe at this point?

Has our team ever been this scripted, this sorry, this dumb? We're not sure it ever has been. Given the way partisan "news" now works, there's a very good chance things will only get worse.

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  1. Meh. It's as if you were born yesterday, dear Bob.

    Clowns will clown, and your zombie comrades will keep admiring them. As indeed they should; you're in a cult, after all...

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  2. Just start on page 33 and proceed carefully from there.

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  3. Keep in mind that Chris Matthews was ultimately dispensed by a report from a fellow news analyst who decided to out him for his clumsy and excruciatingly adolescent overtures to her in a studio makeup room.

    She decided to tell all about her life-changing confrontation with sexism, because Matthews had conducted a rough and tough interview with candidate Warren.

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    1. More garbage from a park drunk.

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    2. "She decided to tell all..."

      If Matthews had behaved professionally toward women, she wouldn't have had anything to tell. Her motives are irrelevant, as are his skills in assaulting her. Calling assault an "overture" is ridiculous. This isn't a courtship -- it is a workplace in which a woman is trying to do her job.

      There is a special place in hell for women who excuse (or enable) the misbehavior of men.

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    3. Overture is a far more accurate description of Matthew’s remarks to Laura Basset than terming it an “assault”. You’d do well to understand that it is possible to make a salient point about sexism without an utter loss of perspective.

      Bassett’s motives do matter. That’s why TDH pointed out that she should be held to account for not saying something sooner, rather than waiting till Matthews was on the ropes over his hyperbole about Sanders and for treating Warren like a man.

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    4. Overture is a ridiculous euphemism for what Matthews did.

      Bassett was right to choose her time and say something at a point when she had a chance of being listened to, instead of inviting reprisals and having her complaint be ignored.

      Here's what you don't understand. It was her story and she can tell it whenever she damn well pleases.

      An attack interview is not "treating Warren like a man." It was showing bias. Professionalism requires that all candidates be treated similarly.

      Why are you working so hard to defend Matthews?

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    5. Was Matthews guilty of assaulting women or not?

      It’s your rhetoric. Don’t describe such exchanges as being the verbal equivalent of an emotional, professional, spiritual battering and then argue that Bassett should have held her powder until it was safe for her to make an outright accusation against a serial assailant. That day might have never come.

      I work hard at defending anyone against this sort of culture.

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    6. So, you think it is OK for a guy to create a toxic workplace environment simply because he is the big name on screen, making women around him feel uncomfortable as they try to do their jobs? And if they complain, they should get death threats, the way Bassett is now getting?

      What Matthews did was against the law and should have been against corporate policy too. Since her employer didn't enforce such rules, she was left on her own. If she didn't feel safe doing that until others were speaking out, that seems pretty natural to me.

      Our society, the USA, has legislation that prohibits creation of a toxic work environment. Matthews did that by making repeated sexual comments to a variety of women, that made those women feel uncomfortable and interfered with performance of their jobs. That disadvantages women in a workplace where they are seeking advancement and makes it more difficult for them to do their jobs well. Guys like Matthews do this in order to exert power over others and perhaps for a tingle (to make themselves feel still sexually attractive, who knows why men do this?). It is not OK to do this stuff and MSNBC shouldn't have tolerated it. As Bassett herself said, it isn't the same as what Weinstein did, but it still isn't OK because it represents unequal and unfair treatment of women in the workplace.

      So, this isn't a matter of any "sort of culture" but of laws that exist in our country. You should rethink this, because something is wrong when you find yourself defending people who are breaking fair employment laws.

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    7. Again, if asking Laura Bassett why you didn’t have the sense to fall in love with her more promptly...is beyond the pale, then it shouldn’t have taken Warren getting creamed by Democrats in order to have spoken up.

      It’s interesting that this is the same sort of timing for the brouhaha about director Greta Gerwig. It all happened when it was too late put Little Women on your top twenty-seven list, to defend her plot devices, of to defend Warren’s policies that she couldn’t defend herself.

      It’s after everything is over but the shouting, when we see this sudden handwringing and accusations that serve to strafe and seek concessions from the right people at, ...as you put it, the safe and most advantageous time.

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    8. It neatly avoids the nuance of her true shortcomings. It's for the intellectually lazy - just like the race and Russia cards. It's all they have because they will. not. look at their own shortcomings.

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    9. He said several things. Two were about falling in love with him and the last one was about not letting her out of the building with that make up on: "We don't make her up so some guy at a bar can look at her like this."

      Bassett said "I helped to remove a man from the airwaves that was really undermining women." But her intention wasn't to remove him, just to state what he said to her. That is her right. There was nothing confidential about any interaction she had with Matthews.

      Somerby brouhaha is late, but he is responding to things that were said earlier. There is a limit to how early something can be said, given the length of time between announcing the nominees and the winners.

      I suppose you've never heard of "the last straw" or "the straw that broke the camel's back"? If Bassett saw the connection between her own treatment by Matthews and what happened to Warren and that motivated her to speak up, so what? As I said. These are her experiences and it is up to her to decide when and how to describe them.

      Somerby says she should have spoken up sooner? That illustrates the damned if you, damned if you don't nature of women's situation. She shouldn't have to torpedo her career and destroy opportunities for future employment in order to ask for the right to work without being leched and drooled over by Matthews.

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  4. And, like clockwork, Somerby rushes in with a post that exactly illustrates the truth of Warren’s statement.

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    1. What truth has Somerby now affirmed for The Last of the Marauded Mohicans?

      That the Democratic establishment is comprised of a bunch of sexists?

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    2. When did Bernie join the Democratic establishment?

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    3. Where did you find that red herring?

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    4. How so exactly?

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    5. It's so obvious. Warren go nowhere in the primaries because she is a Woman; and also due to her Native American Heritage. The reason for Buttigieg (I just can't spell it) failing - he's gay plus ageism; Karmela Harris - she's a woman, black & Indian; Amy Klobachar - obvious - she's a woman; Bloomberg - ageism and anti-Semitism plus anti-billionaire prejudice; Andrew Yang - obvious, he's Asian all the other white male pols who got nowhere and dropped out - seems inexplicable why that happened; though explanation could be that they were white males.

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    6. AC/ MA,
      Fuck the white working class!

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  5. "Forgive us, but if those are the only two answers to that question a politician can come up with, that person should never have run for the White House in the first place."

    Unfortunately, Somerby never tells us what the question was.

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    1. The question is quoted in Squaw Warren's statement.

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    2. "Gender in this race—you know, that is the trap question for every woman."

      That isn't exactly a question. But Somerby thinks there is some special answer to it. Unspecified, but I real politician would know the answer. You can't assess the answer without knowing what the question was, and this just isn't a specific question. It is a topic about which a lot can be said. It is not a question.

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    3. The question is whether or not sexism played a role in the election.

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    4. That's your version of the question. Since there is no question asked, we don't know what question Somerby had in mind.

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    5. The question literally was "Can you talk about the role gender played in this campaign?" https://cs.pn/3aAzTZ4 (5:14)

      It's obvious. There's no mystery.

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    6. Yes, that is my point. Somerby writes about Warren's terrible response to a question he never quotes in his essay. You had to go back to the interview to find it.

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    7. I had to go back for it *only for you*, not Somerby, me or anyone else vulva face. Get it together. You're doing very, very poorly.

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    8. The question is obvious to everyone but you.

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    9. This is what it sounds like when a Russian bot emulates a 12 year old.

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    10. Oh Russia again. Lol.

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    11. Russia still. FTFY. None of us will be laughing later.

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    12. OK - sounds good.

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      This article describes the spread of rumors about Corona virus by Russia on social media, and the repetition of those conspiracy theories by Republicans.

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    14. Oh, another one of those russophobic conspiracy theories spread by liberal zombie cult, and endlessly repeated by dembots?

      Quelle surprise...

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    15. No one could possibly kiss as much Establishment ass as Donald J. Trump, that's for sure.

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  6. In Somerby's eyes, Elizabeth Warren is seen as whining about sexism, even when saying there is no good answer.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/03/america-punished-elizabeth-warren-her-competence/607531/

    In the last debate, Warren was never allowed to speak.

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  7. If you're worried about Warren's aged and horrible vagina playing a role in the outcome of the primary, it didn't.

    Elections are bought by the rich and she wanted to tax them. End of story. The donor class cut her out and got their guy, who will do nothing about class and probably won't even mention it. Follow the money, not turgid and pathetic vaginas.

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    1. And where was all the sexism when Clinton was running? It's a stupid question.

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    2. Read Clinton's book "What Happened" and she will tell you about her experiences and how sexism contributed to her defeat. Read the chapter called "Being a Woman in Politics."

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    3. Not in the Democratic primary vagina breath.

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    4. I can tell by your writing style that you must be a Bernie bro. Women have no doubt been trying to explain things to you for your entire life.

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    5. I voted for Warren actually. I thought she was terrible but the best of the horrible lot.

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    6. So that proves that you aren't sexist, or that there was no sexism during the primaries, or that Warren got a fair shake? You forgot to put vagina in your last comment. Now you'll have to say it twice in the next one.

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    7. Can you imagine what Biden's genitalia looks like? My God.

      It's would like Yoda being scalped and hung upside down by his feet until all of his purple blood ran out of his body and then that freeze dried and rubbed with a dried starfish or some kind of industrial loofah. Talk about not pretty.

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    8. On the other hand, politics aside, can you imagine Trump's anus? That must be the cleanest, most perfectly manicured plot of land in this entire multiverse. I would go down on that any day of the week.

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    9. Why would you think Trump is clean? He doesn't care about anyone else's experience. I'll bet he doesn't wipe at all. Remember, this is a man who didn't use a condom with a porn star. I don't know what he's worried about catching, but it isn't anything below the waist.

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    10. It's just a feeling I have.

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    11. On the other hand, think about Hillary's vagina. OMG! That thing must be filthy, full of sticks and rocks, all sorts of peculiar debris. I don't even want to think about it. And I voted for her too.

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    12. This is called vagina envy. Men just can't have children, no matter how hard they try.

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    13. It's the Establishment's anus that is clean as a whistle, from all of Trump's ass kissing of it.

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  8. On the right, there are some compilation videos that show Biden putting his handsy hands on children and on women, while standing on a public stage during some event or other. You can see the parents trying to move him away from their kids without offending him. You can see the women try to shrug off his paws. The obvious discomfort of the victims of his grabbing is hard to watch. He seems oblivious to it. He goes on rubbing, caressing, mussing hair, as kids and women try to sidle away.

    The right is going to spread this kind of thing around, after the primaries. Unfortunately for them, it will probably upset liberals and not conservatives or independents (those who think women and kids are property owned by men). But Bernie isn't any better. This is why we needed Elizabeth Warren.

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  11. “if those are the only two answers to that question a politician can come up with, that person should never have run for the White House in the first place.”

    Warren is right. Either sexism exists or it doesn’t. Since it obviously does, a woman can either discuss it, and get called a whiner, or not discuss it, and get called oblivious.

    Now, Warren spoke the truth, and didn’t say the politically correct thing a “politician” would say, since the sexists of the world get upset when they hear the truth spoken about their sexism.

    And ironically, the ones who get upset are the same ones who claim to hate “political correctness.”

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  12. The only reason she was rejected is because she's an Injun.

    ...well, that, and Dark Lord Putin's Superhuman Powers, obviously.

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