Donald Trump seems to be mentally ill!

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11, 2020

But then, so does everyone else:
Is Donald J. Trump "mentally ill" or cognitively impaired in some serious way?

In January 2018,
the New York Times declared, in an editorial, that journalists shouldn't discuss this question. In so foinf, the Times undermined a nascent discussion being conducted by Yale's Dr. Bandy X. Lee.

In effect, the Times revealed its Trumpy side that day. He's strongly inclined to wish away the coronavirus onslaught. The Times wants to wish away the question of Trump's mental health.

Is Trump "mentally ill" or cognitively impaired in some serious way? The possibility never seemed much more obvious than it did last Friday when Trump engaged in a long press conference as part of his trip to the CDC.

At one point in the lengthy press conference, Trump broke away from the questions he was being asked to reminisce about his uncle. First he praised the NIH, then he wandered afield as shown. For the full transcript, click here:
TRUMP (3/6/20): Well, we’re prepared for anything. We’re prepared. We are, really, very highly prepared for anything. And in a short period of time—I mean, what they’ve done is very incredible. And I’ve seen what they’ve done back there. It’s really incredible.

JOURNALIST: And just from a health perspective—

TRUMP: And, by the way, NIH, what they’ve done—I spent time over there, and I like this stuff.

You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super-genius. Dr. John Trump.

I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, “How do you know so much about this?” Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.

But you know what? What they’ve done is very incredible. I understand that whole world. I love that world. I really do. I love that world. And they should be given tremendous credit. And the whole world is relying on us.
In the past, Trump has described himself as "a very stable genius." In that exchange, we got to hear about his uncle, who was "a great super-genius."

The suggestion seemed to be that Trump may be able to understand "this [pandemic] stuff" so well because he's like his super-genius uncle. Very few people would ever make such weird remarks in public, especially in such a serious context.

Also at issue is this claim: "Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' ” That evening, on The Last Word, Lawrence O'Donnell assailed this as another of Trump's lies.

To his great credit, O'Donnell is one of the very few major journalists who is willing to address the possibility that Trump is mentally ill. For our money, he would have been better off that night to see this remark from that perspective.

Few people would ever make a presentation as weird as Trump's presentation about his super-genius uncle. Earlier in that presser, he had also said this:
TRUMP: But I think—I think, importantly, anybody right now and yesterday—anybody that needs a test gets a test. We—they’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful. Anybody that needs a test gets a test.

If there’s a doctor that wants to test, if there’s somebody coming off a ship—like the big monster ship that’s out there right now, which, you know—again, that’s a big decision. Do I want to bring all those people on? People would like me to do that. I don’t like the idea of doing it.

But anybody that needs a test can have a test. They’re all set. They have them out there.

In addition to that, they’re making millions of more as we speak. But as of right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test—that’s the important thing—and the tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect, right? This was not as perfect as that, but pretty good.
Anybody who needs a test can get a test? Obviously, that statement was wholly inaccurate, but the Big Crazy entered the picture here with that remarkable side trip into the realm of the perfect.

To appearances, Trump was saying the ("beautiful") tests are perfect, just like his phone call with the Ukrainian prime minister was perfect. (He seemed to substitute "letter" for phone call.) What does it tell us when someone makes such an odd comparison in such an inappropriate circumstance?

The same question arises about something else Trump said. He had appeared on Fox the previous night, leading to this grossly inappropriate aside:
TRUMP: Well, we’re considering different things. But we’re also considering the fact that last year we had approximately 36,000 deaths due to what’s called the flu. And I was—

When I first heard this four, five, six weeks ago—when I was hearing the amount of people that died with flu, I was shocked to hear it. Anywhere from 27,000 to 70,000 or 77,000. And I guess they said, in 1990, that was in particular very bad; it was higher than that.

As of the time I left the plane with you, we had 240 cases. That’s at least what was on a very fine network known as Fox News. And you love it. But that’s what I happened to be watching.

And how was the show last night? Did it get good ratings, by the way?

JOURNALIST: I—I don’t, sir.

TRUMP: Oh, really? I heard it broke all ratings records, but maybe that’s wrong. That’s what they told me. I don’t know. I can’t imagine that.
Even in the course of discussing a global pandemic, Trump couldn't refrain from making a typically bogus claim about his record-breaking TV appearance the previous night. Very few people would ever behave in such a strange way in public.

To this very day, the press corps isn't willing to discuss this president's bizarre behavior from the standpoint of possible mental illness or cognitive impairment. To this very day, the corps is satisfied with being "shocked, shocked" for the ten millionth time whenever Trump decides to make his latest wild misstatement.

To our ear, these remarks were so remarkably weird that they beg for analysis from a mental health perspective. That said, the mainstream press will never go there. Some skeptics have said that Trump is nuts, but the rest of us seem to be too.

Tomorrow: These CDC Officials Today

For what it's worth, tormented presidents talking alike: Richard Nixon, leaving the White House:
NIXON (8/8/74): Nobody will ever write a book, probably, about my mother. Well, I guess all of you would say this about your mother—my mother was a saint. And I think of her, two boys dying of tuberculosis, nursing four others in order that she could take care of my older brother for three years in Arizona, and seeing each of them die, and when they died, it was like one of her own.

Yes, she will have no books written about her. But she was a saint.
More recently, Donald J. Trump, floundering among the scientists:
TRUMP (3/6/20): You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super-genius. Dr. John Trump.
For what it's worth, Nixon's mother was a saint, and the death of his two brothers may have taken a toll on Nixon.

It also seems like Trump's uncle was a very good person. According to the leading authority, he knew enough to get away from his brother, who passed his horrible values along to his unfortunate son.

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  2. What makes Bob Somerby think that Trump is mentally ill? The things that Trump says.

    And yet, in the past, Somerby has chided the media for reporting Trump’s latest tweet or public or private remark, instead of reporting on more “important” things presumably, like education or healthcare.

    But how else can the public judge whether Trump is mentally ill, if they don’t know what Trump is tweeting about or saying?

    Aside from this hypocrisy, the more troubling aspect of Somerby’s thinking is that every two-bit pundit and media person gets to judge Trump’s mental state, based not on any actual diagnosis, but on ... what Trump says. Trump’s followers are not likely to be swayed, and likely find no such evidence of mental illness. On the contrary, Trump’s ability to pursue and achieve his goals, of grifting, of absolute fealty from the GOP and DOJ, argues for a rational pursuit of power.

    And what is to stop pundits from declaring Biden or Sanders “mentally ill?”

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  3. The Democrats tried to get rid of him. Somerby and the GOP would have none of it.

    Thanks a lot.

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  4. "For what it's worth, Nixon's mother was a saint, and the death of his two brothers may have taken a toll on Nixon."

    One of the characteristics of mental illness is lack of touch with reality. There is nothing wrong with a man who speaks highly of his relatives. But notice that Nixons mother was saintly and Trump's uncle was well regarded at MIT. Neither of these statements is incorrect, unless you object to florid adjectives. And we expect people to love and admire their relations. In Trump's case, this is an example of self-aggrandizement, not mental illness.

    But Somerby doesn't really understand much about mental illness. He doesn't know how it is diagnosed, whether people can function with it, how it is treated. ADA protects mental illness as a disability. If a president were being treated or were coping with it well, there is no reason to assume he should be removed from office. Biographers talk about Lincoln's depression. Major depression is a mental illness but Lincoln coped with his well enough to function in office.

    So what is the point of Somerby's continuing assertions that Trump is mentally ill? He seems to think that the press should talk about it, but to what purpose? We have no information about Trump's health because Congress has not insisted on accurate medical reports. We have no limits on Trump's actions because his cabinet will not invoke Article 25. No one has taken any action to remove him from office because of it, because that would depend on his having done something to motivate such a recourse. Behavior that threatens himself or others is needed to limit Trump's actions, legally speaking. Somerby has not mentioned anything that fits such a description.

    I see this as a conservative maneuver to goad liberals into talking about Trump as mentally ill. If liberals did that, it would push Trump's base into defending him. We would be stupid to do that. Same goes for pseudo-diagnoses of dementia or cognitive decline. Trump is responsible for his words and deeds and we should be holding him accountable for them. That's what the press has been doing, by treating him as a person who is doing and saying things that need to be reported. To treat him as mentally ill would be to excuse his callous, foolish, and narcissist statements. I'm glad the press is letting us all see Trump for what he is, a crappy human being who is incompetent at his job.

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  5. Somerby appears to be mentally ill too. So what? Does he have no right to speak if he is mentally ill? Shall we call him names and label him, then ignore what he says?

    Does Somerby think that if the press calls Trump mentally ill, then something will happen as a consequence. First, it would convince Trump supporters that the press really is out to get Trump. Second, it would demonstrate a kind of bias because they would no longer be simply reporting facts, but editorializing on the mental state of the president. That isn't what the press is supposed to do. Third, it would distract from the kind of reporting they ARE supposed to do, distract from Trump's actions, just like his tweets already do.

    Somerby should ask himself why there aren't more people with training calling out Trump's mental illness. If Trump is mentally ill, why aren't there a chorus of therapists, psychiatrists, physicians signing petitions and making joint statements about his mental illness, the way the judges and prosecutors and similar professionals have done over previous actions? Instead, there have been professionals decrying the labeling of someone who has not been properly examined and thus cannot be diagnosed from afar (a violation of professional ethics for psychiatrists, psychologists, and therapists).

    The few mental health professionals who have called Trump mentally ill are the equivalent of Stormy Daniels. If he is going to call Stormy a grifter, so must he call Bandy Lee an attention seeker who has violated ethics to make an unsubstantiated claim about the president. But Somerby doesn't seem to have any concerns along those lines. Why not?

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  6. If there was a list of cray cray talking heads, Lawrence O’Donnell would have been at the top.

    That changed as recently as a day or so ago when Nancy Grace debuted her new show.

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  7. Dear Bob, our beloved president talks the way human beings talk. And that's all there is to it.

    If you feel that behaving like a human being - as opposed brainless liberal zombie - amounts to a mental illness, then you just might a zombie.

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    2. He says what human beings say.

      Human beings, who talk without a teleprompter, and are not repeating memorized meaningless word-salads concocted by lawyers and tested on focus-groups.

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    3. Trump is no more mentally ill than any other modern Conservative.

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