DOGMA SPREADS: Was Warren the greatest candidate ever?

FRIDAY, MARCH 13, 2020

Plainly, she was not:
Was Elizabeth Warren really The Greatest Candidate Ever?

We ask for an obvious reason. Readers might have gotten that impression from the keening and wailing which occurred when Warren dropped out of the White House race last week.

A million conventionally qualified male candidates (including Kennedy, Reagan, Bush the elder, Bradley, McCain) had been forced to exit previous White House campaigns. An array of conventionally qualified men (including Booker, Inslee, Bennet, Bullock) had already dropped out of this year's Democratic campaign.

No matter! When Candidate Warren dropped out, it was said to be different. Consider a pair of peculiar assessments we've already discussed:
MADDOW (3/5/20): I think that a lot of women around the country right now feel differently about you dropping out. Whether or not they were supporting you specifically for president, you leaving the race feels different.

If Hillary Clinton can't win when she gets the nomination, and then you can't get the nomination, and neither can Kamala Harris and neither can Amy Klobuchar and neither can Kirsten Gillibrand, I mean, I think part of what's going on today is that women around the country are like, "OK, honestly, you know? If it's not, if it's not going to be any of them, let's get real."

Is it just, is it just that it can't be any woman ever?

LINSKEY (3/6/20): Elizabeth Warren attracted big crowds. She won nearly every debate. Her organization was second to none. She developed plans, a strategy and a message. Yet when voting started, she not only lost, she lost by a lot.

Now as Warren, who ended her presidential campaign Thursday, decides whether to endorse either of the two male candidates remaining, her supporters are left to contemplate a factor that many believe contributed significantly to her loss: She’s female.
(Note: We've restored Linskey's original text, the text which appeared above the fold on the front page of our hard-copy Washington Post. In Linskey's original text, Warren was said to have "won nearly every debate." Subsequently, someone toned that absurd statement down; on line, Linskey's text now says that Warren "won rave reviews in nearly every debate." That's a less ridiculous claim, but as an act of journalism, it remains a major stretch, more advocacy than fact.)

Let's read between the lines. According to Maddow's weird assessment, Warren was such an amazing candidate that if she can't win her party's nomination, no woman ever will.

According to Linskey's vastly overstated lament, Warren "won nearly every debate;" had an organization second to none; and had policy plans up the yin-yang.

Why would such a phenomenal candidate lose to two white men? The mandated explanation followed. In this way, dogma spread.

Did Warren win nearly every debate? Did she have plans up the yazoo? More to the point, was she The Greatest Candidate Ever?

Almost surely, no—no, she plainly was not. Let's run through some of the ways such systems work.

First, Warren entered the race with a giant problem. Over the course of more than a decade, she had made the apparently crazy claim that her race was "American Indian."

Although she'd made this very strange claim, she'd never been able to explain why she did. One possible explanation seemed obvious. She never really came up with another.

This was already a giant millstone around this potential candidate's neck. But in 2017, she did the dumbest thing any candidate has ever done—she took a DNA test, and she released its results.

The DNA test conclusively showed that her race, as that term is universally understood within the American context, actually wasn't "American Indian." But instead of simply acknowledging this obvious fact, she began to pretend that this had been an issue of tribal membership—which it never had been.

How can a person retain a reputation as Smartest Human Candidate Ever after engaging in such ludicrous conduct? Simple! In a highly tribal time, her supporters directed attention to Donald J. Trump, who had been mocking her by calling her "Pocahontas."

Trump's statement was of course derisive, but the derision wasn't aimed at the woman born as Matoaka, who was subsequently known as Amonute and Pocahontas as well. She was the daughter of Powhatan, whose proper name was Wahunsenacawh. He was the leader of the Powhatan, an alliance of Algonquian-speaking people living in Tsenacommacah, in the Tidewater region of Virginia.

We're sorry, but Trump's derision wasn't aimed at Matoaka. Nor was his derision aimed at Native American people.

Stating the obvious, Trump's derision was aimed at Warren herself. We liberals disappeared this fact by accusing Trump of a "racist slur," the only type of political claim we knew how to make by this time.

An obvious question arises. How could someone maintain a reputation for brilliance after engaging in such ludicrous serial conduct? After all those years of bogus claims about her own race? After an episode as dumb as the taking of the DNA test and the subsequent faux explanations?

Warren was able to maintain that reputation because we humans battle to defend the tribe at times of tribal warfare. For this reason, Warren was also able to retain her reputation of "having a plan for that" (her slogan) even after it became clear that she'd never even had a plan for universal health care, the soul of her campaign.

She hadn't even had a real plan for health care! Here's the way Linskey smoothed that:
LINSKEY: It’s not that Warren ran an error-free campaign. She had to apologize for previous claims of a Native American identity and struggled to explain her health-care plan and how it would be paid for, and her efforts to bridge the party’s liberal and centrist camps fell flat.

But her male counterparts made big mistakes as well. And Warren was among six accomplished women who got little traction in a party that recaptured the House in 2018 with a record number of female candidates, elevated a woman as House speaker who regularly goes toe-to-toe with President Trump, and ostensibly has a new sensitivity to gender issues.
She "struggled to explain her plan!" In fact, she ended up saying that she would wait until her third year in office to pass Medicare for All.

Given what typically happens in the third year of a new president's term, that statement was every bit as dumb as her utterly stupid adventure with the DNA test. In effect, this was a flip. At the point, she began to sink in the polls.

Warren said she had a plan for everything, indeed, that was her slogan. Behaving like Trumpist true believers, a certain segment of her party agreed to pretend that she did.

In part, they did so because Warren was a fully qualified female candidate. They dared to dream that she was, by some gender-based magic, The Greatest, Most Brilliant and Best Candidate of Them All.

That said, she wasn't The Greatest, Most Brilliant and Best Candidate of Them All; very few candidates ever are. Her male counterparts did make mistakes, though we're not sure that anyone ever carried a larger millstone into a race than the one Warren fashioned from her endless weird claims about her putative race.

We'd hoped to get farther with this today, but we'll stop here for now. We lost a day to dental woes this week, and there's a lot more to say on this topic.

Personally, we've always been appalled by the way Warren proceeded ahead in spite of the Native American matter, which she could never explain. She was exposing her gullible party to terrible risk as we looked ahead to a general election.

That said, her candidacy, and the leaving of it, have been saturated in low-IQ tribal dogma. In such ways, Warren plainly gained advantages from her gender, even as she may have lost support in other ways from gender-based reactions.

The dogma flowed at the end of last week as Warren left the race. Dogma is bad for the heart and the mind, but has it always been the fuel on which our floundering species runs?

Tomorrow: Likability, taking the leap and (something resembling) hysteria

Still coming: The various things Clyburn said

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  1. “Was Elizabeth Warren really The Greatest Candidate Ever?”

    Neither Maddow nor Linskey describe Warren this way.

    Warren’s supporters? Maybe. But then, that’s what makes them supporters.

    Somerby mentions a number of different groups: her supporters, we liberals, and we humans:

    “In a highly tribal time, her supporters directed attention to Donald J. Trump”

    “We liberals disappeared this fact by accusing Trump of a "racist slur,”

    “we humans battle to defend the tribe at times of tribal warfare.”

    There is clearly not a one-to-one correspondence between “her supporters” and “we liberals”, since many (liberal) primary voters clearly preferred Sanders or other candidates. There wasn’t a unanimous pro-Warren sentiment even in the media; Somerby himself shared anti-Warren media reports last fall. (It seems pretty clear, in fact, that the media launched an effort to derail her candidacy once she surged in the polls. But Somerby ignored that).

    Also, Somerby clearly erects a straw man here by pretending that “her supporters”=“we liberals” were willfully blind to the horrible sin of the Indian stuff. The truth is that “her supporters” (and some others as well) were able to see the relative unimportance of the Indian thing and to accept her apology and move on, expecting good things from her based on her actual public record.

    Somerby is unable to see past Warren’s misstep. So be it. Contrast with his reaction to Bill Clinton’s having sex in the White House with Monica, then lying about it. It seems Somerby has been able to forgive Clinton for that. Does that make him “tribal?”

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  2. “we humans battle to defend the tribe at times of tribal warfare.”

    At a time when one tribe faces obliteration by the other tribe, it’s hard to see what is wrong with this.

    Especially when the other tribe is busy destroying the country.

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  3. The cognitive dissonance of Somerby is unbelievable. If sexism and misogyny are discussed as factors in Warren’s defeat, it is just tribal dogma. But, when it comes to Hillary Clinton:

    “the decade of misogynist trashing of Hillary Clinton almost surely put Trump where he is.”

    http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2020/03/chris-matthews-leaves-and-jack-welch.html

    Does he think that sexism and misogyny disappeared after 2016, or that only Hillary ever had to face it?

    Sexism exists, whether the candidate is good, the greatest, of terrible.

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    1. I'm having trouble following your argument. Because misogyny was a factor in one woman's defeat in a general election, it has to be a factor in another woman's series of defeats in primary elections? TDH may be wrong about misogyny with respect to Warren, but it's hardly a case of cognitive dissonance.

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    2. Deadrat, the existence of sexism in our culture is well documented. It doesn't go away with one candidate, as Somerby suggests. It didn't go away with Hillary who was exceptionally well qualified.

      This is a contradiction on Somerby's part because he was willing to acknowledge sexism with respect to Hillary but not with Warren.

      Cognitive dissonance isn't really the right term to use when you are talking about a contradiction or inconsistency in argument.

      I am not @1:16 pm.

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    3. Corby, there is no contradiction on TDH's part. Clinton won the nomination. TDH criticizes the way the main stream media treated her over the years, which included some elements (he says) of "sexism' e.g Chris Matthews. Clinton was nominated by the dems, but lost in the general election. Any "sexism" that may have contributed to Warren's loss is different because it was in the democratic primaries, not a general election. Any sexism was democratic sexism. He also makes a point, which like he says, almost everyone, including you, ignore, is that Warren (and undoubtedly Clinton) got additional votes because of her female gender. And lots of women didn't vote for Warren. Attributing these results to sexism over other factors is highly reductionist.

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    4. No open primaries in any States?
      I don't think that is true.

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    5. Yeah, professor, I figured you weren't @1:16P since you're commenting with a nym, and @1:16 is Anonymous. You're also making little sense. See AC/MA @11:21A.

      But thanks for sharing.

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    6. @1:17P. It's not true. About half the primaries are open if you count allowing previously-unaffiliated voters to pick their ballot. What's your point?

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    7. "What's your point?"

      That this isn't necessarily true:
      "Warren's loss is different because it was in the democratic primaries, not a general election. Any sexism was democratic sexism."

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  4. The Pale-Face tribe defeated the Fake-Injun tribe. Another American atrocity.

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  5. Yeah, to the thinking person, Warren was clearly toast against Trump. Warren was a true and good ‘justice’ policy-maker (see CFPB), but the real betrayal came when she accused Bernie of telling her that a woman cannot win the Presidency. More likely – if that happened at all – he told her he didn’t think she could win against Trump.

    Even if that were true, she got him in the back, after yanking planks from his platform, just as did all the other nominees.

    For that reason, I am grieving that they were not able to work together after she dropped out. It would have been like a dream, to hear her endorse Bernie. Now we know that she meant it when she said she was, at heart, a capitalist.

    And I honestly don’t care what her gender is. I only care about trying to elect people who will speak and legislate for all of us. She was doing that, but she seems to have abandoned her ideals. Thanks for getting me riled up, Bob. Otherwise a good essay.

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    1. To many thinking people, Bernie would clearly be toast against Trump.

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    2. "Yeah, to the thinking person, Warren was clearly toast against Trump."

      They have polls to measure this kind of thing so that "thinking people" don't have to make shit up.

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    3. Why would Warren endorse Bernie after he stabbed her in the back?

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    4. Sanders would be our President if the country hadn't rigged the election against him by voting for other candidates.

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  6. “She hadn't even had a real plan for health care!”

    According to Kevin Drum, Somerby’s favorite blogger:

    “Elizabeth Warren is finally out with her detailed Medicare For All Plan. It is, as near as I can tell, the most complete plan in the known world, paying literally 100 percent of all health care expenses. “

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/11/elizabeth-warren-presents-her-plan-to-pay-for-m4a/

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  7. IMHO there is a still lot of prejudiced in favor of white, male, Protestants for President. It's not a coincidence that only one one President ever broke this mold. Also, I do not think that Obama's election means that prejudice against black Presidents has disappeared. He was a special case, in which his race actually helped him. However, that was a 1-time phenomenon. Black candidates are no longer helped by their race.

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  8. Somerby’s habit of looking at a small segment of media or liberal reaction and calling it “the” reaction is on full display here.

    Example: while there was criticism of Biden in the media early on, that wasn’t universal. There now seems to be a set of voices in the media urging Biden’s candidacy and rejecting Sanders’.

    There was certainly praise of Warren in the media, but there was at least as much criticism of her. Somerby eagerly shared some of that.

    He claims she had no plan, when she actually did. She was attacked for the specifics of it. Meanwhile, Sanders’ lack of specifics was barely mentioned.

    And so on. It’s just ludicrous to claim there is tribal dogma when the “tribe” is so full of disparate voices.

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  9. "Stating the obvious, Trump's derision was aimed at Warren herself. We liberals disappeared this fact by accusing Trump of a "racist slur,""

    If Trump's derision wasn't aimed at Pocahontas or her people, why did he use her name?

    Warren claimed to be part Cherokee -- it isn't the same tribe.

    It isn't OK to borrow Indian names to use as insults or threats or trash talk (in the case of sports teams) against targets who have nothing to do with such names. That is the racist part.

    Somerby doesn't understand racism. That's why he claims that Trump wasn't being racist. Of course, he was being racist.

    Liberals tend to understand what is racist about such behavior. Somerby once again demonstrates the unlikelihood that he is anything but a conservative. Just as David in Cal occasionally claims that he was a liberal when he was young, Somerby claims to be one of our tribe. But he just doesn't understand how liberals tend to think about things like misappropriation of Indian names for unrelated purposes.

    In fact, Somerby seems to think that calling a white person Pocahontas is fine, as long as you intend to deride her and not Pocahontas or her descendants.

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  10. "Personally, we've always been appalled by the way Warren proceeded ahead in spite of the Native American matter, which she could never explain."

    She did explain. Multiple times. The only reason Somerby says that "she could never explain," is that he won't accept her explanation.

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  12. I find Bob’s account of Warren’s claims a little weak. My understanding was She puffed up her Native background on her college apps, no doubt trying to get a break on college costs. As for Trumps taunts, I don’t know who Bob is trying to fool. More than racists, they are an affront to simple decency that insult anyone who expects a level of said decency from The United States.

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    1. Puffed up? You make it sound like she claimed to be a Navajo shaman experienced in sand painting. She claimed a dubious racial status on a diversity question. This might gain someone an edge on admissions, but I don't see how it gets anyone a break on college costs. In any case, Warren first checked the wrong box for the Texas state bar in 1986. She graduated from college in 1970.

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  13. I give Warren the benefit of the doubt; I accept that she truly believed she was a small part Native American. "Race" is self-described. If she were only a small part Native American, she was permitted to label herself Native American. (My author cousin LS is perhaps 40% black. She calls herself black.)

    The trouble is, to the ordinary person, it looks like cheating for Warren to call herself NA, since she was entirely or mostly white and certainly looks white. She probably benefited from calling herself NA. Why else did she do that? She was cleverly taking advantage of a loophole.

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    1. "She was cleverly taking advantage of a loophole."

      What loophole is that?
      Also, what was her advantage?
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      BTW, I remember ordinary people saying Trump not paying taxes makes him "smart". Yet that wasn't very troubling for him.
      Unless you are saying ordinary people know that a lifetime failed businessman, who lost money operating casinos, is too broke to have to pay taxes.

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