FRIDAY, JULY 19, 2024
The New York Times reports: Yesterday afternoon, we wrote about the part of Usha Vance's convention speech in which she referred to her husband's "childhood traumas."
For us, the unusual reference triggered recollections of her husband's best-selling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which we speed-read in a bookstore when it first came out.
Based on the mistreatment and neglect which lay behind those childhood traumas, we recommended pity for the child. But we also suggested possible concern about the effect those traumas might have on the grown man, later in life.
In this morning's New York Times, Sharon LaFraniere offers a report which covers much of this same ground. Her report appeared online two days ago. We hadn't seen it until it appeared in today's print editions.
What kinds of mistreatment and neglect were we vaguely referencing? At the start of her report, LaFraniere offers examples:
J.D. Vance Has Written of His Struggles to Control His Anger
Senator J.D. Vance’s rapid political evolution from a moderate Republican to a leader of former President Donald J. Trump’s movement is one of the best-known aspects of his life.
Less so is his personal struggle to gain control of his anger, a battle that he documented in his memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” published in 2016. “Even at my best, I’m a delayed explosion,” he wrote.
There is not much question why. Violence and conflict were part of his upbringing.
Mr. Vance’s grandmother, infuriated by her husband’s alcoholism, poured gasoline on him after he fell asleep on the couch in a drunken stupor, then dropped a flaming match on his chest. He survived.
Mr. Vance’s mother, who battled drug addiction, was so enraged at J.D. once that she threatened to crash their car and kill them both. He fled the car in terror and then watched her being driven off in the back of a police car.
When he was very young, Mr. Vance wrote, he tried to hide from the fights between his mother and whomever was her current partner. Later, he would run downstairs or listen through the wall, heart racing, simultaneously drawn to and repelled by the conflict. “When she lay sobbing in bed after another failed relationship, I felt a rage that could have driven me to kill,” he wrote.
Experiences of the kind described may well produce "childhood traumas." For the record, the woman who poured gasoline on her husband, then set him on fire, was being praised for her moral greatness at the convention this past Wednesday night.
The highlight of Vance's convention speech was his rumination about his desire to return to the nation's tenth poorest county when it comes time for him to be buried.
He hopes his children will also be buried in that tenth poorest county, alongside their troubled ancestors. Especially from a candidate who is supposed to represent youth, this may have been the strangest ambitions ever described at a national party convention.
For obvious reasons, we recommend pity for any child who grew up amid such abuse and neglect. In her report, LaFraniere describes the way Vance eventually tried to deal with the aftermath of those traumas:
Once he eventually realized he had to confront his inner demons, he tried counseling, he wrote, but “talking to some stranger about my feelings made me want to vomit.”
Instead, he hit the library. He read about how the consequences of childhood trauma last far into adulthood. He talked to his sister and his aunt, trying to understand his past.
But the real antidote, he wrote, proved to be Usha, whom he married in 2014. Close friends of the couple describe her as a steadying force.
“I continue to struggle with conflict, to fight the statistical odds that sometimes seem to bear down on me,” Mr. Vance wrote. “The sad fact is that I couldn’t do it without Usha.”
“I can be defused, but only with skill and precision. It’s not just that I’ve learned to control myself,” he wrote, “but that Usha has learned how to manage me.”
To be clear, that's what Vance wrote roughly a decade ago, before he published his best-selling book. Also, all praise and great thanks to Usha Vance, assuming the book's account is accurate.
That said:
Vance has had an erratic political career. All in all, after graduating from Yale Law School, he has led a somewhat erratic public life. Now that's he's a Trumper, his career has been marked by a fair amount of unnecessary, inappropriate hostility directed at various political targets.
For obvious reasons, we pity the child who's been raised in the way Vance's book describes. Tragically, the price that may get paid for such abuse and neglect may show up later in life.
ReplyDelete"Now that's he's a Trumper, his career has been marked by a fair amount of unnecessary, inappropriate hostility directed at various political targets."
Ha-ha. You're funny, Bob. Thanks for this.
Or did you mean good decent person's hatred directed at him? Of course you didn't, did you?
DeleteI think Somerby meant what he wrote.
DeleteHuh? It's a perfectly reasonable observation that Bob has made.
DeleteDuh, formerly Vance directed his trauma-borne hostility towards Trump, calling him “America’s Hitler”, but now that Vance has gone all in with Trump, that hostility is targeting Biden.
DeleteYou say trauma-borne, but I wonder if you mean trauma-born.
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Vance attended Ohio State and got his law degree from Yale. In 2016, he said this:
ReplyDelete“The tragedy of Trump’s candidacy is that, embedded in his furious exhortations against Muslims and Mexicans and trade deals gone awry is a message that America’s white poor don’t need: that everything wrong in your life is someone else’s fault.”
“In pointing that finger so repeatedly and enthusiastically, Donald Trump has debased our entire political culture.”
“Trump instead offers a political high, a promise to “Make America Great Again” without a single good idea regarding how.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/10/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy-donald-trump-us-white-poor-working-class
So, his upbringing caused him to, what, Bob? Say reasonable things 8 years ago, but then turn into the person on that stage you now pity?
Somerby apparently isn’t familiar with the term “opportunist.”
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of opportunism:
Delete1. The media, with low ratings, saw blood in the water after the debate and ran with sensational and inaccurate headlines to generate profit. They have admitted this.
2. That, in turn, influenced big money dem donors who then threatened to pull their big money because the MEDIA was tanking some polls.
3. That, in turn, worried party leaders who need that big money to win because sh*theads like Musk can donate $45M per month to Trump thanks to Citizens United, and those dem leaders expressed their concern about losing that money.
4. That, in turn, caused the media - again with garbage ratings bleeding cash - to report that party leaders want Biden to step aside (not because they don't think he can do the job, but because other rich people were extorting them)
5. And that greed has led to the snowball effect we are seeing. It's all about money. Not democracy. The media and big donors are selling out democracy and the will of the voters over money.
Corporate media has failed us.
https://x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1814016603568410899
As the circular firing squad rages on.
What do the 'ratings of the media' have to do with your argument?
Delete1:32 Sorry, Jim, but Trump led Biden in most polls BEFORE the disaster Biden created in the debate. This is on Joe Biden and his inner circle, who were so fearful of his risk of public exposure that a traditional Super Bowl appearance was declined, a decision that was commented on in the media at the time because it was so obvious a missed opportunity for free airtime in front of a large potentially receptive audience. In the last two days Biden has had major gaffes including misreading a teleprompter in a statement about rent control, and forgetting the name of a fellow democrat, who, in his lapse he described as black. So let's not go blaming everyone but the guilty party here. If you, at the age of 82 ran a company in which you made frequent and at times egregious errors publicly, there would be a certain point, after having screwed up over and over again, where you would recognize that the abundance of missteps says something very meaningful about your competence. Simply because Biden was unchallenged by any serious candidate in the Democratic primaries did not automatically make him the people's choice. The majority of democrats polled have been against his running, based on age, for months. So your version of what constitutes democracy is no better than the system you criticize, and perhaps worse, because the public consistently polls in parallel with the big money donors you deplore. Over and over, Biden has underperformed against a candidate so flawed that almost any other substitute stands a better chance. This is on Joe Biden, and his failure to thus far acknowledge the lost cause that he and his team have created is one more piece of evidence that his judgement is unacceptable.
Delete9:31,
DeleteWe'll just have to blame everyone except Trump voters, if Trump wins.
I am not a crank.
I am the mainstream media.
Jim makes an excellent point.
Delete9:31 makes a reasonable point, that does not contradict Jim’s point, other than in tone.
It's strange the Democratic party is running a candidate a majority of their voters don't want to run. Especially one that is so incredibly unpopular, elderly and frail. They say this election is really important. Why would a political party run an unpopular, debilitated candidate that a majority of their own members don't want to run in a supposedly important election?
Delete11:27 Go talk to Donna Brazile and her cohorts about that.
DeleteDonna doesn’t reply to me.
Delete11:27,
DeleteI find that blaming anything you feel is negative on back people, usually does the trick.
Remember when bigots blamed the 1970s Community Redevelopment Act, for the 2008 economic crash caused by bank fraud? Case in point.
I blame everything on back people.
Delete2:16 is a GOP Senator, apparently.
DeleteEnvironment or heredity? Maybe bad behavior is in JD's DNA.
ReplyDeleteDid you similarly psycho analyze the Messiah aka Barack Obama? He had the opposite life track of Vance. All his life everything was just given to Obama on a gold platter because he has the type of charisma that make people with leftist proclivities drool. May be Obama’s latent anger issues stem from inner voices that tell him he doesn’t deserve all that was given to him.
ReplyDeleteObama doesn’t have anger issues.
DeleteNo one needed to psychoanalyze Obama when Trump volunteered to be the point man maligning him based upon a fictitious assertion that Obama was born outside the US and could not run for president. Trump, and Fox, who beat that drum relentlessly along with trash like Ted Cruz, figured that that lie would carry them through an election. A gross miscalculation. We'll see how JD Vance does as the MAGA standard bearer in the future. So far, not particularly endearing, but able to conjure up lies about the democratic candidate with the best of them.
Delete... the worst of them.
DeleteIt’s bad to psychoanalye Trump’s current condition based on minimal informstion. While ignoring items that demenstrate. It’s worse to analyze someone’s hypothetical future mental condition.
ReplyDeleteDavid, I foresee your future mental health: excellent.
DeleteWhere is Csl?
DeleteCsl is nowhere without David.
DeleteDiC hates that crime ridden Democrat controlled liberal woke tax and spend state so badly he'll never leave it.
DeleteI love David.
DeleteConservative Savings and Loan
DeleteDavid’s profile is fictitious, just like his musings.
DeleteDavid is real. He’s a retired actuary, living in Csl. I love him.
DeleteDavid is as real as Peter Pan, don’t be a sucker.
DeleteI ate a lot of Peter Pan peanut butter when I was a kid. Now I prefer Smucker's Natural.
DeleteSmucker's Natural peanut butter is a hoax.
DeleteI have a jar of it.
DeleteTrump served up roughly an hour and a half of information about his current mental status the other night, complete with references to a fictional serial killer. Based upon that sampling, the length of a feature film, it can be surmised that he remains the same commonly incoherent and reliably nonfactual cartoon character that he was before 7/13. No psychoanalysis necessary. If some clown approaches you on the street rambling on about a fictional movie character and telling you a series of easily debunked stories, there is no need to enlist someone with a doctorate in psychology to decide to that you are better off crossing the street.
DeleteIs Somerby really saying that Vance’s childhood traumas have caused him to engage in “unnecessary, inappropriate hostility directed at various political targets?”
ReplyDeleteBecause, that would be malarkey, in large part, especially since Vance himself claims that he has learned to control himself.
He, a reasonably educated man, has hitched himself to Trump, who leads the pack in “unnecessary, inappropriate hostility directed at various political targets.”
Some of us are strong enough, lucky enough to leave childhood trauma behind. Others have work to do.
ReplyDeleteIt's not very complicated.
My advise, go to the library but don't read too many "consequences of childhood trauma"
Not very complicated.
I didn’t ask for your “advise”.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:15pm, great advice and it’s not complicated. Thanks.
DeleteIt is complicated.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:56am, the task is complicated, the approach to it is not.
DeleteSo it's complicated.
DeleteThe impact of unresolved childhood trauma is well established in the field of behavioral science.
DeleteDr. Sapolsky has some good, easy to read books about it.
Those so afflicted demonstrate the perniciousness of their circumstances by denying science and instead spewing hate-filled insults.
ReplyDeleteMy childhood trauma happened when my uncle was eaten by cannibals.
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My uncle was one of those cannibals.
DeleteDid he abuse and neglect you? And did tragically the price get paid later in life?
DeleteMy uncle never abused me. He was always good to me. I remember him fondly.
DeleteCannibals are good decent persons.
DeleteDon't overthink it, Bob.
ReplyDeleteVance has anger issues, because he was raised in a world of white people. It was this culture of violence that made him the angry Trump lick-spittle he has become as an adult.
Evidently, Vance is in the wrong party, because every anonymouse seems to identify with him.
DeleteI see him more as a standard-issue piece of shit Republican. What makes you think he's different than all the other slobs in the party?
DeleteJD inherited his bad tendencies from his parents and grandparents. It's in their DNA.
DeleteIt could be worse. Vance could have grown-up in the rural Midwest, rather than the Cincinnati suburbs where he was raised.
ReplyDeleteWhere he grew up made no difference. He has bad genes.
DeleteAnonymices, no wonder you’re for mandating DEI.
ReplyDeleteIt’s a cover for your hate.
Cecelia,
DeleteYou support the 100% Estate Tax rate, correct?
Yes.
DeleteCecelia,
DeleteCan you please explain why you think DEI is bad? And, if so, will you do it here?
All great Americans support the 100% Estate Tax rate. You'd have to be a real piece of shit not to.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:16am, maybe later. I’ve got something else on mind that’s annoying me.
DeleteCecelia,
DeleteThanks.
I look forward to your attempt.
Cecelia is a man pretending to be a woman, engaging with him his folly because he is disingenuous.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:24am, I’m the man of your dreams, for sure.
DeleteWhat's a "woman"?
DeleteNot sure what explains Cecelia’s hate, which she projects here onto others. Is it DEI? Childhood trauma? Benighted religious dogma?
DeleteCecelia, for you we don’t mandate DEI. We mandate FGM.
DeleteA woman is whoever identifies, genuinely, as a woman.
DeleteGender is a socially constructed concept that, as society progresses, has diminishing utility.
Identifies as what?
DeleteReligion does not exist without religious indoctrination, which can be compared to how a horse has to be broken in order to ride one; it is a form of child abuse that often results in unresolved trauma.
DeleteI identify, genuinely, as an anonymouse.
DeleteBeing smug and snarky in discourse is the same as tipping your king.
DeleteI play bridge.
DeleteI’m no good at card games.
DeleteA woman is an adult human being who could potentially undergo FGM or has actually undergone it.
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