CHALLENGED: He'd never seen a nominee like Trump!

FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 2024

Or a journalist like Levin: As a nation, we've come a very long way, baby, from the journalistic landscape described by Theodore White.

His iconic book bears a famous title: The Making of The President 1960. Key point:

In effect, White was reporting from an earlier, vastly different nation as he described the "forty or fifty men, all veterans of their craft, all proud of their integrity and their calling," who could be seen "rocking groggily off a plane at between one and two in the morning" as they followed Candidates Kennedy and Nixon around the country during that year's campaign.

White's assessment of those campaign reporters was clear. "The men assigned to cover a Presidential campaign are, normally, the finest in the profession of American journalism," he wrote. In White's view, the journalists assigned to cover Candidates Kennedy and Nixon were "men of seniority and experience, some of them men of deep scholarship and wisdom." 

They were the brightest and the best. Even when these proud men encountered the undisguised disdain of Candidate Nixon and his staff, White offered this slightly pockmarked account of their professional attitude:

"Predominantly Democratic in orientation, the reporters who followed Nixon were, nonetheless, for the sake of their own careers, anxious to write as well, as vividly, as substantively as possible about him."

So the writer wrote. On the other hand, White also said that all the reporting from the two planes was "colored" by the divergent attitudes of those reporters toward the two candidates—and he described a type of astounding misbehavior on the Kennedy plane:

"By the last weeks of the campaign, those forty or fifty national correspondents who had followed Kennedy since the beginning of his electoral exertions into the November days had become more than a press corps—they had become his friends and, some of them, his most devoted admirers. When the bus or the plane rolled or flew through the night, they sang songs of their own composition about Mr. Nixon and the Republicans in chorus with the Kennedy staff and felt that they, too, were marching like soldiers of the Lord to the New Frontier."

 The writer also wrote that! In doing so, White helped establish a certain picture—a picture which has never gone away—in which the establishment press aggressively favors the Democratic candidate. 

White's portrait helped establish that powerful storyline. That said, he had almost surely never seen a journalistic performance in the course of a White House campaign like the performance which occurred on the Fox News Channel last weekend.

As we noted yesterday, White was writing, in effect, a version of The Little Presidential Campaign in The Big Woods. There was no cable news at that time. There wasn't even a CNN, let alone a Fox News Channel or an MSNBC.

Social media didn't exist; neither did the Internet. To all intents and purposes, there was no national "talk radio" of the kind Rush Limbaugh brought in several decades later.

Walter Cronkite hadn't yet become the anchor of CBS News! Nor was there anything like a Candidate Trump, or anything like the Fox News Channel's Life, Liberty and Levin.

Last Saturday and Sunday nights, Candidate Trump's Labor Day weekend was marked by a pair of hourlong appearances on that primetime cable news program. There's no reason why the candidate shouldn't have appeared on that program, but the journalism offered there represents a major challenge to the American system—to the American way of life, imperfect as it has been.

In our view, White described astounding misconduct taking place on the Kennedy plane. He said that all the reporting from that plane was "colored by" the correspondents' attitudes toward the candidate on that plane.

Sixty-four years later, White's portrait should be sobering. But he described nothing resembling the journalistic behavior which met a statement like the one shown below—a statement made by Candidate Trump early in Saturday evening's program, starting at 8:05 p.m. Eastern.

In this passage, the candidate is midway along in the first "answer" he gave to Levin's initial "question." As he starts, he's speaking about Candidate Harris, who he has already described as "Comrade Kamala." 

As the statement shown below begins, the candidate is several minutes into his first "answer" of the night. His stream of frequently false or unfounded assertions continues along from there:

TRUMP (8/31/24): I saw today she wants to build a wall. She fought me, for years, on the wall. I built hundreds of miles of wall, but she was one of the people that fought me—one of the Democrats, but one of the people. And you look at how she's changed, and it's so phony, because— 

And all of this stuff— You know, with politics, it's usually their first thought, that's where they are. And her first thought is Marxism.

She's not going to have a wall. She's going to have people—we'll have a hundred million people in this country within four years if she gets elected—a hundred million. They've already allowed twenty million in—we think. I think it's a lot higher than that.

And Mark, they come from prisons and jails—there's a slight difference. And they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. And they come also, as terrorists, at a level that we've never seen before. And they're pouring into the country—we have millions of people coming in, but hundreds of thousands of those people are criminals from Venezuela. 

They take them off the streets of Caracas and bring them into our country and then they announce their crime rate is way down. You know, that's what they've done—their crime rate is way down now. But they come from Africa, Asia, the Middle East and from South America. And they are destroying our country. 

Then you watch her, like at the convention, "Oh, everything is just peachy dory." But migrant crime is turning out to be a disaster. Many, many people are killed and raped and mugged and everything else—these are tough people. But they let them out of jails 

You take Venezuela. Their crime rate is down at a number they've never had before. They're taking all of their criminals and busing them into the United States of America and dropping them and saying, "If you come back, we will kill you." And then I'm supposed to sit and debate this person, and she'll say, "Oh no, it's wonderful, it's wonderful," and now she's going around saying we had the weakest border in history.

She was the border czar. She was put in charge of the border...

It was now 8:07 on the clock, but the candidate's ramble continued on from here. The second question from Levin wouldn't come until 8:11. When that "question" finally came, that question looked like this:

LEVIN: Let me follow up with you. In the book, you have some very compelling photos of the border.

[...] 

She says if this so-called "bipartisan border bill" hits her desk, she will sign it. Not a single Republican in the House supported it. Three Republicans in the Senate—it was negotiated in secret. 

She never tells us what's in the bill. "Catch and release"—you put an end to that. That's in the bill. It would be a statute.

[...]

She's hiding out from the press.  Is she a liar? Is that why she's hiding out from the press? She doesn't want to tell the American people just how radical she actually is?

The candidate's long and rambling initial answer had led to a long and rambling "follow-up question." We're showing you the end of that rambling question, where the rubber, such as it was, melted into the road.

As any sane person can plainly see, this second "question" wasn't a question at all. It was instead an overtly partisan statement. At this point, we'll make the following guess:

As of November 1960, Theodore White had never seen an example of "campaign journalism" which resembled Levin's performance last weekend in even the slightest way.

Was something "wrong" with Levin's performance on this year's Labor Day weekend? Inevitably, that's a matter of judgment. Before we address that question, let's make a quick observation about what the candidate himself had said:

In that rambling presentation, the candidate was touching on a campaign issue which does present a serious challenge to his Democratic opponent. 

For whatever reason, President Biden never attempted to explain the shambolic border policies which led to large increases in "undocumented" or "illegal" border crossings during the first three years of his term.  In our view, this was a major abdication of duty on President Biden's part.

There is, of course, no way of knowing what Vice President Harris may have thought, or may have advised, about the administration's border policies. But in the impoverished intellectual landscape of the American political discourse, it has always been assumed that vice presidents agree with the policies of the administration within which they serve.

When sitting vice presidents have run for higher office, they have routinely been saddled by that lapse in logic. In the current case, performers on the Fox News Channel have been asserting, for the past five weeks, that Candidate Harris had in fact been "the border czar"—improbably, that she had in fact been "put in charge of the border" during the Biden years.

As of last weekend, each of those familiar claims had been widely challenged—but after making those claims, Candidate Trump droned on. He had already made an array of unsupported claims about the prisons and jails of Venezuela, along with that nation's "mental institutions and insane asylums."

He had made an array of unsupported claims about the "hundreds of thousands" of criminals from Venezuela who were, in some way which went undescribed, allegedly being bused into this country by some unnamed entity, and who were then being told, by unnamed persons, "If you come back [to Venezuela], we will kill you."

In fairness, the candidate's reference to the busing of "hundreds of thousands" of such criminals was a step back from his earlier claims, in which he said that millions of criminals from Venezuela were being bused into this country by some unnamed entity or persons. 

That said, a wide array of the candidate's statements in the passage we have posted have been challenged, again and again, by reputable fact-checkers. But as the candidate made these fuzzy,  inflammatory claims, the journalist from the Fox News Channel simply sat and stared.  

The journalist asked for no clarifications. The journalist asked for no evidence in support of these widely challenged claims. 

Who was busing these hundreds of thousands of criminals into the United States? Where were these buses entering the country? Why weren't these buses being stopped?

Also, who was telling these criminals that they would be killed if they returned to their country of origin? These are blindingly obvious questions, but none of these questions were asked.

In fact, the journalist from the Fox News Channel never asked any such questions during this pair of hour-long programs. Looking back to that earlier age, we think it's fair to make this assumption:

As of November 1960, Theodore White had never seen an example of campaign journalism which resembled what happened on these Fox News Channel programs. Imperfect though they may have been, no one on those campaign planes would have dreamed of behaving in the way Levin did all through the course of last weekend's programs.

In our view, it's also fair to make this assumption:

This new kind of campaign journalism presents a challenge to this nation's most basic political and governmental systems. In our view, this kind of journalism presents a fairly obvious challenge to this nation's way of life.

There's a great deal more which could be said about what happened on last weekend's hourlong programs. For the record, we think it's also fair to make this assumption:

As of November 1960, Theodore White had never seen a presidential nominee who trafficked in false or unsupported claims in the way this candidate does. 

It isn't just the journalism which Theodore White had never seen. Almost surely, he'd never seen a nominee like Donald J. Trump—though he'd also never seen a campaign journalist like the Fox News Channel's Mark Levin.

He'd never seen anything like what transpired, for two solid hours, on last weekend's "cable news" programs. That said, also this:

It's possible that White had never seen anything like the refusal of the New York Times to report on, and to discuss, what happened on those TV programs, but also on the Fox News Channel on a regular basis. It's possible that White had never seen such an avoidance of high-end journalistic duty.

In our view, what has happened on MSNBC has been bad enough. What has happened on the Fox News Channel represents an existential challenge to the American system, imperfect as it has been.

Presumably, there was no perfect journalism during the 1960 campaign. That said:

Theodore White had never seen anything like what was broadcast last weekend. Nor had he ever seen anything like the garbage can the Fox News Channel opens at 10 p.m. each weekday night—or anything like the imitations of journalism which precede that clownlike "cable news" program.

Beyond that, he'd never seen anything like the refusal to report which has been practiced by the modern-day New York Times—but also by the cable news stars on MSNBC, Blue America's "cable news" counterpart.

In effect, White was living in the Big Woods when he wrote his famous book. There was no Mark Levin in those woods. There was no Jesse Watters and there was no Greg Gutfeld. There were no D-list comedians and no former professional wrestler churning out corporate dogma as they pretended to discuss the nation's news.

What happened on Fox last weekend represents a major challenge to us the people—to the American system. For the record, we know of no evidence to suggest that we will be able to meet this challenge in the years ahead.

Next week: Debates


89 comments:

  1. If FoxNews dominated the media, the kind of bias Bob describes would be a big problem. But, FoxNews is actually small. Around 2.5 million Americans watch FoxNews: 343 million don't.

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    1. D in C, far more go on line all the time. there's click bait, multiple times more are exposed to Fox itself or other sites. It's not just the viewers on FoxNews, it permeates a wide sector.

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    2. Dickhead, are you counting the Sinclair Broadcast Group? which owns nearly 200 local news TV stations and which pumps out forced republican propaganda on all these local newscasts with audiences far greater than most cable news stations. Do you ever fucking stop whining, jackass?

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  2. Typical Somerby:

    Ugh, aesthetically these Republicans are distasteful, but you know on the other hand they do make valid points...blah blah blah

    In reality, the increase in border crossings had nothing to do with Biden's border policies. Notably Republicans were tearing their hair out over Biden's string of new policies in his first 100 days that reversed the inhumane Trump border policies (but did not contribute to an increase in crossings which was related to broader world wide circumstances). Yet Somerby falsely claims that Biden ignored the issue.

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    1. “First three years” is careful Somerby parsing, it allows him to not mention Trump’s killing the boarder deal. He has made it quite clear he does not believe it should be allowed to mention that.

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  3. Trump, after not being able to remember his opponent the other day, went to some "economic forum" and had a cognitive hiccup that was as bad or worse than anything Biden did in their debate.

    Trump was asked what he was going to on child care policy, and Trump's brain just went to mush. It is pretty alarming that this is a presidential candidate, when clearly he needs to be in an assisted living facility.

    Trump responded by saying "I was somebody" and then adding helpfully that "childcare is childcare".

    Oof. If Republicans had any integrity, they would immediately and forcefully demand Trump drop out of the race.

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    1. The only reason the media is anti-Republican is that the media is owned by businesses, and the Republican Party has consistently shown they know absolutely nothing about economics.
      Do you think a business should side with a political party that doesn't know how a balance sheet works?

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    2. So are you aware of Reagan, Bush Jr., and Trumps tax cuts directed at the wealthy and corporations? Jesus these people.

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  5. “What has happened on the Fox News Channel represents an existential challenge to the American system.”

    There Somerby goes, promoting right-wing memes to us gullible liberals again.

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    1. One-note crank goes out of his way to chastise the non-believers ... again.

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    2. PP has a tic where he is compelled to fling his poo. We just ignore him.

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    3. PP's tic is better known as logic.

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    4. Alternatively, we could see this as yet another piece of evidence cutting against the thesis that Somerby's project is to persuade liberals to vote for Trump.

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    5. If we were being rational here, we would be discussing Somerby's point - Fox News is an existential threat to the American way of life and we liberals and the American media are not equipped to deal with this dire threat. Instead, we're discussing the ridiculous theory that Putin pays Somerby to con credulous liberals into voting for Trump. This way leads to perdition.

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    6. The regular channels obviously don’t talk politics all day. My guess is Fox News generally tops MSNBC and CNN combined. All three channels have obvious ideological tilts.

      This why it’s fatuous to scold Bob for critiquing Fox and the rest of the media’s silence as to Fox News.

      Far from being a bad Democrat or a fake Democrat, Bob is being a regular Democrat in his horror of equal time. Consider too that everything is now sacred if said by the government under the this administration in way that was not the case with Pres.Trump or any Republican Admin. Republican admins are selectively suspect rather than being suspect because we should all be wary of power.

      Anonymices are solely here to negate Bob so everyone knows what they’re going to say regardless of the issue.

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    7. Thanks for your concern, troll.

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    8. Anonymouse 5:02pm, you’re welcome,

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    9. Republicans did away with the equal time rule.

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    10. PP, in the W years the Daily Howler very clearly changed its policy: Fox was to be ignored ( at first because, supposedly, it was too obviously bad to take seriously, as time went on the rare mention of Fox usually defended them) and only the “left” press deserved examination. This basically continued until recently, when Bob found he could not watch MSNBC anymore (straight talk on things like Jan 6 seemed to be too much for him) and he returned to Fox. So you are wrong on the facts or being deliberately misleading.

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    11. Ah! The crackpot conspiracy theorists are beginning to recognize that Somerby criticizes both Red and Blue media!

      So, 4:46, as a matter of bored curiosity, why would Putin (or some rich conservative) pay Somerby to warn us that Fox is an existential threat to the American experiment?

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    12. Just like no foreign influence was needed to convince Republican voters to elect a bigot, like Trump, no foreign influence is needed to make Somerby repeat Right-wing talking points/ grievances.

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    13. So you’re jettisoning the “paid stooge of Putin” part of your theory? Great! But how does Somerby calling Fox a garbage can propaganda site threatening the very existence of American democracy fit in with your theory that Somerby is parroting right-wing talking points? I’ve never heard Hannity, or Gutfeld, or any of the others make this point, have you?

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  6. DiC - 142K new jobs. The problem now is not inflation - that was whipped a while ago - but a softening job market. In my view, the Fed should have begun cutting rates six months ago because of the long and variable lags.

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    1. The job situation is even worse when one looks at private sector jobs. Private sector tallies lowest monthly job gain since January 2021
      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/private-sector-tallies-lowest-monthly-job-gain-since-january-2021-131157504.html

      Inflation is not cured. The latest inflation figure is 2.89%. Unfortunately, we are no longer seeing improvement. For the last year or so, inflation has been stuck around 3%. https://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/CurrentInflation.asp?reloaded=true

      We seem to be moving toward stagflation -- the worst of both worlds.

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    2. Inflation is "cured" in that it is relatively stable. A target percentage for inflation is arbitrary and not the main concern of the Fed, which is stability.

      GDP is fine, employment is decent, corporations continue to post high or record revenues and profits. There is a tech bubble in the stock market, but that is mostly the result of people getting conned from the likes of Musk.

      More significant than these metrics is the staggering wealth inequality in the US. Since 1981 we have experienced a massive $50+ trillion redistribution of wealth from the bottom 90% to the top 1%. This was propagated by Reagan and movement conservatives, and largely ignored by neoliberal Dems like Clinton and Obama. Biden is the first president to put any real effort into reversing this trend in our lifetime. Harris will continue that trend.

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    3. I endorse everything 12:15 says.

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    4. And to elaborate on inflation a little bit. It's not really "inflation" that is a worry; to be more precise, it's embedded inflation expectations that threaten to mushroom into an accelerating inflation in the future. But look at the long rates and you can see that there are no significant expectations of future inflation. That's what I mean when I say "inflation has been whipped."

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    5. The target rate for inflation is typically considered 2%. So 2.89% is a problem worth bringing up?

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    6. I am trying to find a reputable source on the internet currently warning of stagflation. None to be found. Goldman Sacks analysts advocate for Harris's economic plan, indicating that Trump's tariff heavy plan would cost middle.class American families $4k per year. Likewise, Jamie Dimon favors Harris, advocating for increased taxing of the rich, the so-called "Buffett Plan", which would lower the national debt, in his opinion. The economic outlook has to be doom and gloom for Trump to win, and by all objective criteria, it ain't .And what may be wrong isn't going to be fixed by Trump's inane proposals for widespread tariffs and tax breaks for the rich.

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    7. 12:45 - Yes, DiC is reaching, trying to find some straw to support his priors. His steadfast refusal to reevaluate those priors based on the remarkable recovery from the devastating recession inherited by Biden is disappointing and demonstrates, to me at least, that he is blinded by his partisanship.

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    8. Scoring of Trump's economic plan has it adding over 5 trillion to the national debt. That is a lot of debt to add to the 7.9 trillion he gave us during his first term. This clown filed for corporate bankruptcy 6 times and could not get a business loan from any US bank, back when he was younger and still had all his marbles.

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    9. DG agreed. But you are more generous in your assessment of DIC than I would be.

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    10. Anonymouse 12:15pm, globalism led to the deindustrialization of the nation and widened the disparity in wealth. How can we solve this issue without relying on government redistribution of income through entitlement programs?

      In all honesty, I am skeptical of oligarchs, the government, and numerous cultural figures working together to suppress the voices of average folks and media members through smear campaigns and censorship.

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    11. The Fed raised interest rates to slow down the economy, and take leverage from employees and give it back to employers.
      So what happened?
      The economy and job growth slowed, which takes some leverage from employees.
      Sure, we were told that the Fed raised interest rates to tamp down inflation, but ask David in Cal, Trump, and the entire Right-wing media Wurlitzer how that's going.

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  7. The pro-Democrat, anti-Republican media bias that White observed in 1960 is worse now. E.g., I recall when Newt Gingrich was in the news in the 1990's. One week, the two top news magazines had covers that called him "the Grinch." A gratuitous insult, based on the sound of his name.

    The widespread bias became much worse when Trump entered the picture. The NY Times ran an amazing column advocating that coverage should not be unbiased when it came to Trump. Many media followed suit.

    The level of anti-Trump bias today includes giving extensive coverage to false stories that hurt Trump, like the Russia collusion hoax and the "Fine People" hoax. And, the bias includes burying true stories that would help Trump, like the Hunter Biden laptop.

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    1. The only reason the media reports on what Newt Gingrich says, is they don't want to miss out in case he finally makes his first good-faith argument.

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    2. Bill Carter (google is your friend):
      I’m past point of understanding why coverage of most abnormal candidate in US history is so bent on normalization. But there’s no argument anymore. They’re doing it. Even though I’m sure they recognize disaster will befall their country if he’s elected. The why utterly baffles me.

      Thanks for playing David.

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    3. DiC frequents a blog where the blogger goes on and on about Trump’s derangement, and how the media refuses to discuss it. Just as years ago he pointed out how the so-called liberal media was deliberately trying to destroy gore’s candidacy. And yet, here is DiC every day, saying the same tired shit.

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    4. Trump, Somerby, and David all engage with this con where they say "that's a nice pizza restaurant you run there, be a shame if something were to happen to it" and then with a straight face claim they were merely complimenting your nice pizza restaurant.

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    5. Leo - I can understand people who predicted disaster if Trump were elected in 2016. But we now know that Trump’s Presidency did not produce war, depression, uncontrolled inflation or any other disaster. Of course Trump had to cope with Covid, but so did the whole world. Biden is still coping with Covid.

      Of course Trump was far from perfect. My point is, his actions did not result in disaster.

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    6. It's too bad the media forced Biden out of the election by cos-playing they were concerned about his age, since we know Biden’s Presidency did not produce war, depression, uncontrolled inflation or any other disaster. Of course Biden had to cope with Covid and the Russian invasion of an ally in Ukraine, but so did all of NATO.

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    7. DiC - If Trump deports 11M people, what do you think the effect on Social Security's solvency will be?

      If Trump imposes 10% tariffs on all imports, what do you think the effect on inflation will be?

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    8. He tried to steal the election in 2020, Dickhead in Cal! What the fuck is wrong with you?

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    9. That's right, you fuck, David. How dare you want to give that evil corrupt bastard power again. He completely choked on the one crisis he had to deal with and then tried to orchestrate a soft coup, and treasonous bastards like you simply DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

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    10. DiC - How about the Russia/China alliance? Russia is presently engaged on an imperialistic binge. Trump (and Manafort) will hand over Ukraine on a platter. This will embolden Russia to strike at Moldova and Poland. It will embolden China to blockade Taiwan. Republicans used to worry a lot about the effects of appeasing imperialistic tyrants. No more, apparently.

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    11. "One week, the two top news magazines had covers that called him 'the Grinch.' A gratuitous insult, based on the sound of his name."

      Gratuitous? Really?

      C'mon, David. The two leading weeklies led with a pun just to poke fun at a Republican? There was nothing else going on that led them to refer to Newt as a "grinch"?

      Hand me the whitewash brush, Huck. I want in on some of that fun!

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    12. I presume that "the top two news magazines" includes the one that name Gingrich the Person of the Year for 1994?

      Liberal bias!

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    13. "Republicans used to worry a lot about the effects of appeasing imperialistic tyrants. No more, apparently."

      The Republican Party is the Tim Pool of Rush Limbaughs.

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    14. "My point is, his actions did not result in disaster."

      That wasn't your point:

      "The pro-Democrat, anti-Republican media bias that White observed in 1960 is worse now."

      Again, thanks for playing.

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    15. @2:08 mentioned the "one crisis Trump had to deal with..." Why was there only one crisis? Because Trump's policies and well-chosen executive actions prevented a crisis from happening.

      Here are some issues, most of which are a crisis today, but which didn't become a crisis under Trump
      -- North Korean nuclear threat
      -- Inflation
      -- The war in Ukraine
      -- War in Gaza, with its attendant loss of civilian lives
      -- Rocket attacks on Israel by Hezbollah
      -- The Russian threat to other nations
      -- Inability of the military to recruit an adequate number of qualified people
      -- Huge numbers of illegal immigrants, many being shipped to northern locations

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    16. Really need to give up on the no collusion DiC. For tbe price of a couple tanks Putin can overthrow America.

      The Senate Intelligence Committee released the final report on its investigation into Russianinterference in the 2016 election, finding numerous contacts between the Trumpcampaign and Moscow posed a "grave" counterintelligence threat.

      "We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio [R-FL] acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement, directly refuting President Donald Trump's repeated assertions that Russian interference was a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats.

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    17. I believe Trump repeatedly referred to accusations that he colluded with Russia in their interference as a "hoax", not that the Russian interference itself was a "hoax".

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    18. Philip Bump made the same straw man fallacy in the Washington Post today. I guess that the latest propaganda point from the DNC.

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    19. You don't need the DNC to know Republican party talking points agree with the USA's biggest enemy.

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    20. Russia, if you are listening, let the corrupt Paul Manafort give your best spooks data to manipulate voter preferences on Facebook.

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    21. Russia, if you are listening, would you please make it David in Moscow? He doesn’t even pretend to like the U.S. anymore. He would be a wonderful village idiot.,

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    22. If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.

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    23. Why would Trump need Russia to manipulate voter preferences on Facebook when he was already doing it himself legally and with help from Facebook? What could have Russia done that he was not already doing himself to manipulate voter preferences? What exactly?

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    24. I love how Dickhead in Cal attempts to derail the issue of how Trump attempted a coup.


      -- North Korean nuclear threat

      So, North Korea wasn't a nuclear threat under Der Fuhrer, Donald J Chickenshit?

      Yes, Dickhead in Cal, and Trump also allowed the sun to rise in the east during his administration.

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      Trump’s first-term policy on North Korea was “complete, verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization.” And his initial approach was very hardline — he once considered dropping a nuclear weapon on North Korea and blaming its use on another country.

      After multiple personal engagements, Trump said he and Kim “fell in love,” sending letters to one another and remaining on good terms. But that goodwill did not translate into an agreement — save for a temporary missile-testing pause — and North Korea’s program has only advanced since.
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      You're a fascist ass, Dickhead. Can you even look yourself in the mirror? Do you even realize what you sound like?

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    25. 8:07: If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.

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    26. If Trump attempted a coup, why have we not prosecuted him for it? What is the hold up?

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    27. 8:16: If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.

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    28. "My point is, his actions did not result in disaster"
      As defined by whom? Funny how the unnecessary deaths of many thousands of Americans that resulted from his lies and incompetence during the pandemic have no meaning to an 80 some odd year old retired actuary.

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    29. Overturning Roe v Wade didn't negatively effect David, so it didn't negatively effect anyone. That's just science.

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    30. 8:16: To answer your dishonest question;
      Little Donny Chickenshit ran to Uncle Sammy and Uncle Clarence and Uncle Neil to beg for immunity for his crimes. And the SC pulled it out of their ass, they put on their black robes and decided to add a few things to our Constitution. So go fuck yourself, you wouldn't care if he did anyway.

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    31. Hitler only "Tried" to kill every Jew.

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    32. Hey 8:16 you that dumb or just playing stupid? Smith had to re-write the Jan. 6 indictments with a new grand jury because of Leonard Leo's corrupt Supreme Court justices declared one man in America, King Don Von Shizhizpantz, is above the law. As usual pushing the trial past the election.

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  8. “establishment press aggressively favors the Democratic candidate”.
    Most Republicans and independents know this. They accept it as a fact of life and generously discount anything they read in the so called establishment press. Most Dems know this to be true also, but tribal loyalties won’t allow them to admit it. What I have been surprised by is how stupid, innumerate and lazy senior members of the MSM are, as is often documented in this blog. They are absurdly overpaid for spouting trite narratives. This may be why half the country supports Trump.

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    1. The media is owned by corporations. Of course, they support the Democrats making the USA a communist country.
      That's just science.

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    2. The reason half the country supports Trump, is because he did so much good for black people.
      In a fair election, that fact would be scrolling on FoxNews 24/7.

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    3. Anon 11:44. Corporations are not all capitalist. Example: Disney, which owns ABC. Disney has a woke CEO and a woke board – they don’t give a shit if their earnings suck and the stock tanks. They hate their own audience – look at all the unpopular movies and shows of late. As Trump says, everything the left touches turns to shit.

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    4. The only thing I know about "woke", is that it means two adults having consensual sexual relations.
      Why do you accuse the CEO of Disney of being "woke"? Because he's not a rapist?

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    5. "they don't I've a shit if their earnings suck..."
      That is hilarious. Please tell us more.

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    6. The stupid, it burns.

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  9. Gee, it’s the daily Republican talking points from DiC.

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  10. "In our view, this kind of journalism presents a fairly obvious challenge to this nation's way of life."

    It isn't journalism. It is partisanship wearing journalism's old clothes. It is journalism to the same degree that a wolf in sheep's clothing is an actual sheep.

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    Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldn't, you know, there's something, you have to have it – in this country you have to have it.

    But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to — but they'll get used to it very quickly – and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, including child care, that it's going to take care.

    We're gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.

    We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It's about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation, so we'll take care of it.

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    1. Quaker -- My wife saw what I think is the same quote on the PBS Newshour. She sees it as evidence of mental decline.

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    2. “She sees it as…” Well good for her. And you see it as comedic genius, we assume.

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  12. Insert Vance’s beauty contestant video here. The word salad of the demented.

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    1. Donald Trump's inability to string together a few coherent sentences, let alone express a single thought, should make for an entertaining debate next week. When all is said and done, Florida and Texas will be in play. It is remarkable that at this time Trump !eads Harris by only 5 percentage points in Texas, given the Republican talking point that Harris has let all those Hispanic rapists into the state. Maybe Texans aren't completely buying what they are selling.

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  13. I do not understand why Somerby is so fascinated by White and his book (which was controversial in its own time). This is like marveling at what those with horses and carriages would have thought about modern cars. Yes, they would have been amazed, but so what? Meanwhile, Somerby himself does not understand how today's campaigns are using social media and influencers to reach voters, and NOT cable news.

    I also take issue with Somerby's contention that a plane full of journalists enjoying Kennedy's hospitality while in the air constitutes a bias that undermined journalism. My understanding is that there were press planes/buses and the press didn't ride with the candidate most of the time. That the various journalists assigned to the same campaign engaged in fun and games seems like the camaraderie that the press always seems to have with others doing the same job -- the guys in slouch hats comparing notes over drinks at the newspaper bar. I do not see how that compromised those journalists who covered Kennedy's campaign.

    Further, the newspapers in 2016 assigned specific reporters to follow the same candidates throughout their campaigns. Katy Tur was assigned to Trump and wrote about her experiences with his campaign. She said that the people so assigned were ones that had an interest in the person they were following and some background and familiarity with him or her. So, was the bias Somerby claims a preexisting qualification for covering that candidate or did it develop because of fun on the plane? Is it good journalism to assign someone with an opposite bias to a campaign, so that they are always adversarial in their coverage? Or does fairness come from using the same assignment procedure for each of the candidates?

    But mainly, I don't see Somerby's beef with reporters described as having fun while covering Kennedy. It just doesn't reflect bias for journalists to enjoy themselves in their off time on a plane or bus, in my opinion. And if reporters didn't like Nixon or Gore, the personalities of those guys are plenty sufficient to explain the lack of enthusiasm for them on the part of the writers who got the close-up view of them on a daily basis.

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    1. Very good points. One wonders is Bob ever read Mailer’s great convention writings, the true political literature of that era. But, I never understood how Bob got stuck on the John Westly Harding album either, good as it is.

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  14. "Parker, who admits to being a fan of Vance’s book “Hillbilly Elegy,” says Vance’s gaffes — particularly his comments about “childless cat ladies” — made him appear downright rude.

    And she said he was too intelligent to do that without a cause.

    “I’m pretty sure Vance merely wanted to prove that he’s as much a jerk as Trump, the man he rather suddenly reveres,” she wrote."

    Parker shows her own ignorance when she equates intelligence with social skills. Vance may have been good at his law school coursework, but he says rude things because he lack social skills and especially the self-awareness to understand how his ideas and the way he expresses himself will be received by other people. That kind of insensitivity is sometimes associated with autism. It is measured by emotional intelligence (EQ not IQ) and without it, it is hard for politicians to be elected.

    If we assume for a moment that Vance does know what he is doing, Parker may be wrong about who he is pitching his remarks to. Trump's followers like it when someone insults their enemies, and in this situation, Vance is not trying to attract childless cat ladies to vote for him, but he is trying to attract misogynists who hate women enough to love it when he maligns ladies with cats (e.g., the women in bars who look past them and reject them, even when they offer free drinks). Vance most likely knows what he is doing with these remarks. Whether that will result in Trump getting elected is a far different story, since women are registering in droves and planning to vote AGAINST Trump and Vance and the other manosphere-lovin' morons who watch Tucker to find out how to tan their balls.

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    1. I tan my balls on the rotisserie. 350 degrees F for eight minutes. Sturdy, yet still delicate. Melt in the mouth after a couple soft bites.

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  15. How the Media Sanitizes Trump’s Insanity

    The political press’s efforts to rationalize Trump’s incoherent statements are eroding our shared reality and threatening informed democracy.

    In its write-up of that portion of Trump’s speech, The New York Times omitted Trump’s mention of autism, simply writing that “Mr. Trump said that, if elected to a second term, a panel of experts ‘working with Bobby’ would investigate obesity rates and other chronic health issues in the United States.” By removing the mention of autism, which should be a red flag whenever paired with a mention of Kennedy, the Times took an obvious nod to a conspiracy theory and turned it into a normal-sounding policy proposal.

    While speaking at an event put on by the extremist group Moms for Liberty, Trump spread a baseless conspiracy theory that “your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation,” referring to transition-related surgeries for trans people. In their write-up of the event, a glowing piece about how Trump “charmed” this group of “conservative moms,” the Times didn’t even mention the moment where he blathered on and on about a crazy conspiracy that has and will never happen.

    This “sanewashing” of Trump’s statements isn’t just poor journalism; it’s a form of misinformation that poses a threat to democracy...

    Voters who rely solely on traditional news sources are presented with a version of Trump that bears little resemblance to reality. They see a former president who, while controversial, appears to operate within the bounds of normal political discourse—or at worst, is breaking with it in some kind of refreshing manner. You can see this folie à deux at work in a recent Times piece occasioned by Trump’s amplification of social media posts alleging that Harris owed her career to the provision of “blowjobs”: “Though he has a history of making crass insults about his opponents, the reposts signal Mr. Trump’s willingness to continue to shatter longstanding norms of political speech.” Meanwhile, those who seek out primary sources encounter a starkly different figure—one prone to conspiracy theories, personal attacks, and extreme rhetoric...

    https://newrepublic.com/article/185530/media-criticism-trump-sanewashing-problem

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    1. I'm not old enough to remember the NY Times calling Pol Pot "a scamp".

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