DEBATES: Brzezinski lacks the words to speak about Trump!

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2024

From Harris, a hint of "the dark encroachment:" According to Theodore White, televised debates arrived on the scene as part of "a revolution in American Presidential politics.". 

This revolution was technological in nature. "It was a revolution born of the ceaseless American genius in technology," he wrote in The Making of The President 1960, a very famous book.

A "political revolution" had occurred. It involved the arrival, in American homes, of the TV set.

Plainly enough, you couldn't have four TV debates without those TV sets! Between 1950 and 1960, Americans had purchased roughly 40 million such devices, White noted in his book.

In White's somewhat eccentric view, the invention of the TV debates contributed to a massive dumbing down of American discourse. In part because of the demands of the new medium, "rarely in America history has there been a campaign which discussed issues less or clarified them less."

As of 1961, that's how it looked to Theodore White. All in all, we find it hard to believe that his gloomy assessment was accurate. 

That said, television did burst on the scene during the 1960 campaign. This year's campaign has also unfolded in the wake of a technological revolution. 

On yesterday morning's Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski tried to describe her view of Candidate Donald J. Trump. When she did, she was discussing a political campaign which has come to us in the aftermath of the technological revolution known as "the democratization of media."

The TV set was on the scene as of 1960. As of the year 2024, so was a wide array of additional powerful media:

"Talk radio" had long since gone national. "Cable news" had long since arrived on the scene as a major player.

The Internet had come into being, with its many partisan sites. That had led on to "social media"—to a world in which every citizen is a king, as long as he or she can attract millions of eyeballs to whatever proclamation, however crazy, he or she may choose to emit.

It was within that context that Mika Brzezinski tried to state her view of Candidate Trump. 

Her view of the candidate might be right, or it might be wrong. But as she spoke, that candidate's latest claims were rocketing around the meme-o-sphere, including his proclamations about the eating of cats and dogs.

She tried to speak on Morning Joe. All in all, the mandates of an older order deprived her of her words.

Brzezinski had seen people asking if "Americans are ready for a woman" or for "a woman of color." She was gobsmacked by the question—and she was soon saying this:

BRZEZINSKI (9/13/24): I immediately think [sarcastically],"Are they ready?"

Well, what? Are they ready for a psychopath? Are they ready for someone who wants to use the government to commit retribution against all of his opponents for no reason at all? Who wants to destroy our democracy?

That's not an exaggeration. That's not rhetoric. That's what he said. That's what he has been doing....

Had she just called Candidate Trump "a psychopath?" Plainly, that's the way it seemed. 

She seemed to have voiced that assessment. Moments later, though, she faltered, then apologized, then turned to fuzzier words:

BRZEZINSKI: Are we ready for a woman? That's not the question, I think, we should be asking, Gene Robinson. It's like, are we ready to have a psy— 

I'm sorry. I— I'm just—

Having spoken to experts, someone who seems to have psychotic tendencies running our government, who has plans to do things that are very counter to our democracy and has already hurt women terribly, monstrously—already, happening now, in this country.

ROBINSON: Absolutely.

BRZEZINSKI: Are we ready for that? That's the question! I don't want to hear. "Are we ready for a woman?" That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

First, she stopped herself from using a certain term again. Then, she apologized. Then she dialed her language back. 

Rightly or wrongly, she now seemed to say that Candidate Trump is "someone who seems to have psychotic tendencies." Also, she seemed to say that she has spoken to "experts" about this matter. 

She didn't identify the types of experts with whom she has consulted. Robinson agreed with her, "absolutely," but he made no attempt to examine what she seemed to have said.

Our question today is this:

Absent the "democratization of media"—before the age in which every man and every woman could boot the Cronkites to the curb and exercise the rights of kings—before that latest technological revolution, could Candidate Trump have emerged as the three-time nominee of one of our two major parties?

Could he have maintained his sway to such an extent that 74 million people voted to give him a second term in the last presidential election? To such an extent that he plainly might reach the Oval again?

In 2016, "cable news" broadcast his every word, some of which did make sense. In recent years, his statements have rocketed around the world through the revolutionary auspices of "social media." 

Most recently, that has included his thoughtful remarks about the eating of cats and dogs. Those remarks get discussed on CNN and MSNBC, get disappeared over on Fox. 

Could this candidate have become the Republican nominee three times in the absence of this latest "political revolution"—in the absence of this "democratization of media?"

We'll guess that the answer is no. That said, he has tens of millions of strong supporters. Also, he has opponents like Brzezinski and Robinson—fervent opponents who seem to lack permission to use their words.

Is Donald J. Trump a "psychopath?" Plainly, that seems to be what Brzezinski believes, though we're not entirely sure what that claim is supposed to means.

Clearly, that's what Brzezinski wanted to say. Presumably the "experts" with whom she says she has consulted were drawn from the world of medical science. But there exists a powerful rule—a rule which comes from an earlier era—which won't let Brzezinski say the things she believes and wants to say.

Trump can say that Haitians are eating our dogs—but under prevailing rules of her guild, Brzezinski can't say the things she believes. Kathleen Kingsbury won't say those things. In Bue America, the leading careerists have all surrendered their words.

Brzezinski can't name the experts with whom she has spoken. She can't bring such experts on the air and interview them about this candidate's behaviors and claims.

This is the world in which we all live, in the wake of this latest technological burst. 

According to White, the TV set produced a political revolution. Plainly, the rise of cable news and social media has produced another.

Is there some sort of merit to the view Brzezinski knew she mustn't express? Under prevailing rules of the game, we aren't allowed to hear such thoughts—not even within the frequently disordered realm referred to as "cable news!"

Trump can discuss the eating of pets. Brzezinski can't discuss the nature of (clinically diagnosable) "personality disorders." 

A revolution opened a lane for Candidate Trump. The route to an entire class of "experts" is still almost wholly closed off. 

The New York Times won't discuss this matter. Neither will Mika Brzezinski, except in tiny bursts.

We've long stated our own impressions regarding such questions about Candidate Trump. Today, we only note the echo we hear—the echo from Theodore White's assessments of that earlier revolution.

For good or for ill, Candidate Trump has caught a wave—a powerful wave created by a wide array of new media. 

We'll be voting for Candidate Harris. Yesterday, her interview with Brian Taff sent out a very bad sign.

You can watch the eleven minutes here. For people hoping that Harris will win, it was a troubling performance.

Candidate Trump can talk all day. He's able to speak with great fluency about the eating of cats and dogs, with goldfish perhaps thrown in.

The one candidate can talk all day!  It begins to look, once again, like his opponent perhaps cannot.

"These are the days of miracle and wonder," the observer Paul Simon once said. The year was 1986. The name of the album was Graceland. 

Those were the days of miracle and wonder! Technology was opening a wider world, the gentleman hopefully said.


55 comments:

  1. Senator Joseph McCarthy would have admired the phrase "psychotic tendencies." It sounds terrible, yet it has no clear meaning. Does Bob Somerby posts show that he has psychopathic tendencies? Do my comments prove the same thing about me?

    In the early 1950's, people were accused of having Communist tendencies. A popular phrase was "Communist sympathizer." That charge, like "psychopathic tendencies" couldn't be proved and couldn't be disproved, but it could destroy careers.

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    1. "Do my comments prove the same thing about me?"

      Yes.

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  2. Do hillbillies have sex with close relatives? I have never seen evidence that they do. Anyone who says so is making a baseless claim. However, even though the claim is baseless it's not insane. It's not even implausible.

    In the US there are groups one is not supposed to criticize -- such as trans people or blacks. Haitian immigrants are one such group. OTOH Hillbillies are not. So, it's perfectly OK to assert as fact that Hillbillies have sex with close relatives, but it's a big no-no, maybe even insane, to assert that Haitian immigrants eat pets.

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    1. No presidential candidate is claiming hillbillies have sex with close relatives. But one candidate is claiming that a group of "Others" is stealing and eating Americans' pets. Trump is clearly race-baiting/fear mongering, and it's placing people in danger. And btw, the Haitians are here legally.

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    2. A VP candidate made the crazy, and easily disproved, claim that Vance's book says he sex with a couch.

      During his first speech on Tuesday, Kamala Harris’ running mate Tim Walz roasted his Republican counterpart, JD Vance, by cracking a joke that surfaced online last month. It all started with a post saying Vance’s 2016 memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, included a passage about having sex with a couch. The tweet, which included a fake citation with page numbers, led many to believe it was authentic

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    3. BTW it's correct that Walz made the accusation as part of a joke. But, there was nothing in Walz's joke to indicate that the couch story was fictional.

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    4. I had no idea Vance's couch was a close relative. I had no idea that the couch joke fed into a long-running racist trope about hillbillies. I had no idea that this was equivalent to demonizing an entire group of "Others," placing them in danger, as opposed to joking about a single, very specific individual running for high office. Apologies.

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    5. Once again, Donny J Chickenshit is engaged in stochastic terrorism. He's just a cheap coward punk attacking a group for his own political ends. That's who you are supporting, Dickhead, a domestic terrorist. Go fuck yourself.

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  3. BTW I am no expert in persuasion, but I wonder which side is gaining on this issue? Trump is making the point that immigrant who are different from us are a problem. His opponents are making the point that Trump is crazy and dishonest. I wonder which of these points resonate more strongly in the populace.

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    1. The claim about eating pets is a lie, David, just like the assertion, called “blood libel”, whereby Jews were accused of killing Christians to use their blood for ritual purposes. Perhaps that was just meant to point out how Jews were different from the Christian majorities in Europe. Do you have no shame, David?

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    2. 20K Haitians flown directly from Haiti by Biden-Harris and sent to a town of 60K people. May be we should send 3 million new migrants to New York City and see how they like it.

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    3. 11:55 is lying. The Haitians, who are here legally, weren’t “sent” anywhere.

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    4. Trump isn't "making [a] point." He's race-baiting and fear-mongering for political purposes, placing lives in danger for his own selfish gain, just like he's done since day one -- just like he did with Covid, January 6th, and withholding military aid to Ukraine.

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    5. "I am no expert in persuasion." No shit.

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    6. "I wonder which of these points resonate more strongly in the populace."

      Which of these points resonates most strongly with you, David?

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    7. New York City has the largest concentration of Haitians in the United States as well as the oldest established Haitian communities of the country. The conservative estimate of the documented Haitian population in the New York City Metropolitan Area, as recorded by INS is approximately 156,000. However, community leaders and directors of community centers, who come in constant contact with the undocumented population, strongly believe that the actual number is closer to 400,000. This number includes the non-immigrant (temporary visitors, students, temporary workers and trainees) and undocumented entrants, as well as the documented residents who do not fill out the census forms for a variety of reasons. Moreover, the New York City Haitian population represents a very heterogeneous group, reflecting the various strata of Haitian society. Members of the middle class started migrating during the U.S. occupation in the 1920s and 1930s; at the time they established their enclaves in Harlem, where they mingled with African Americans and other Caribbean immigrants who were contributing to the Harlem Renaissance. Significant waves followed exponentially during the Duvalier era that started in 1957 and ended in 1986 with the ousting of Baby Doc. These waves were more heterogeneous than previous ones, as no single class of Haitians was immune from the Duvaliers’ dictatorship. To date, cohorts of Haitians continue to come to New York, many being sent for by relatives already established in the city. Haitians reside in all the boroughs.

      The largest communities are found in Brooklyn where the documented population is placed at approximately 88,763, and in Queens where the number of Haitians is believed to be around 40,000. Members of the community who are of working-class background tend to establish their residence in Brooklyn, primarily in the neighborhoods of Flatbush, Crown Heights, East Flatbush and Canarsie; many are apartment dwellers many homes in the area are duplexes and triplexes. Upper middle-class Haitians who choose to stay in Brooklyn own brownstone homes in the Park Slope area and single family homes in the Midwood section.

      Generally speaking, Haitians themselves consider the majority of their compatriots living in Queens to be mostly middle class. Members of this group enjoy ownership of their homes or cooperative apartments in the neighborhoods of Cambria Heights, Queens Village, Springfield Gardens and Jamaica. Less privileged Haitians settle in the working-class neighborhoods of Rosedale; generally members of the professional community live in the more affluent section of Holliswood and some move to the adjacent counties of Nassau and Suffolk which are parts of Long Island. One of the largest Haitian community of Nassau County is Elmont that is nearly 4,902,13.0% Haitians of African descent along with their entire extended families.


      That's where Donny J Chickenshit grew up, Dickhead. What's the fucking problem, you racist piece of shit?

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    8. Hector - Neither point resonates much with me.

      Trump's comment showed that Trump is a big liar, but I already knew that.

      To say that the comment shows Trump is crazy could hardly be more false. This is a smart, sensible, well-chosen lie that IMO will help Trump's campaign.

      The accusation that Haitians eat pets doesn't make me anti-Haitian, because I don't believe it.

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    9. You go into a national election with the bigoted Republican voters you have, not the enlightened Republican voters you wish you had.

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    10. Trump is a genius. Imagine the deep thinking he had to do to discern that Republican voters only care about bigotry and white supremacy.

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    11. a smart, sensible, well-chosen lie that IMO will help Trump's campaign.

      And if a few Haitian migrant workers have to get shot or blown up, well so be it.

      You are such a depraved piece of scum, Dickhead.

      You notice how Dickhead in Cal scrupulously avoids any acknowledgement of the reckless nature of Chickenshit's latest desperate gambit. Go fuck yourself, David.

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    12. Typical Right-wing identity politics, focused on pet owners, to the detriment of the nations non-pet owners.

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    13. David in Cal,
      Imagine how much easier your life would be if you didn't believe in anti-semitism.

      #choiceshaveconsequences

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    14. In the fantasy world of @1:22, Haitian immigrants are getting shot and blown up. In the real world, Trump was shot and escaped death by inches. In the real world, Jews are by far the biggest victim of hate crimes.

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    15. God bless Jewish people.
      Also, fuck Israel.

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    16. In the real world,

      Texas Man Sentenced to 90 Consecutive Life Sentences for 2019 Mass Shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, Killing 23 People and Injuring 22 Others

      According to court documents, Crusius previously admitted that he killed and wounded people at the Walmart because of the actual and perceived national origin of the people he expected to be at the Walmart. He further admitted that he intended to kill everyone he shot.

      Crusius also admitted he wrote a manifesto, titled “An Inconvenient Truth,” and uploaded it to the internet minutes before he commenced his attack. In it, he characterized himself as a white nationalist, motivated to kill Hispanics because they were immigrating to the United States. Crusius admitted to selecting El Paso, a border city, as his target to dissuade Mexican and other Hispanic immigrants from coming to the United States.
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      Inspired by Trump's hateful reckless rhetoric.
      That ain't no fucking fantasy, jerkoff.

      You have no fucking evidence that Trump "was shot", cause he wasn't.

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    17. "This is a smart, sensible, well-chosen lie."

      It's difficult to discern any disapproval in this assessment. Is there any?

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    18. Good to know lying is an acceptable tactic for right wingers. Who knew (other than everyone)?

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    19. David, Trump isn't "making the point." He's making s**t up!

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    20. Dickhead in Cal doesn't know whether to shit or go blind. Yesterday he came here arguing that what Donny J Chickenshit said was "essentially true". Today he comes here with another brilliant observation, that what trump said was "a smart, sensible, well-chosen lie". Why the fuck does anyone waste their time with this asshole?

      Dickhead in Cal should be shunned.

      immigrant who are different from us are a problem.

      Who is us, Dickhead? I am not a Polish Jewish immigrant. Am I part of "us"?

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    21. Hector - unfortunately, in today's world, lying isn't considered bad, because they all do it. Trump and Harris told lie after lie at their debate.

      Harris deserves praise for a well-chosen lie. She knows that Trump didn't call Nazis and white supremacists "fine people", but through repetition many people believe it. And, it can't be usefully refuted because any discussion of it will strengthen the false belief.

      My impression is that RFK Jr pretty honestly said what he believed was But, I deplore his honest opinion questioning the value of childhood vaccinations. Having opinions I agree with is more important than honesty.

      At least I acknowledge that Trump tells many lies. Some Harris supporters kid themselves about all of her lies. Those who are honest with themselves would say that they support her policies, so they are willing to overlook the lies.

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    22. DIC brings up two circumstances and asks what the impact will be.

      Here is what we know:

      Trump lied about Haitians in an ugly racist manner that has resulted in Trump receiving scorn from the public. Trump will likely lose support and/or generate support for Harris as a result of Trump’s weird rhetoric.

      Walz at a rally said this:

      "JD studied at Yale, had his career funded by Silicon Valley millionaires, and then wrote a bestseller trashing that community."

      "C'mon; that's not what middle America is."

      "And I gotta tell ya; I can't wait to debate this guy, that's if he's willing to get off the couch and show up.”

      So Walz made no such claim about Vance having sex with a couch, DIC just made that up. Walz’s joke was popular and cemented the emerging view of Trump and Vance as weird. Vance is the least popular VP pick in recent times, Walz is one of the most popular.

      Furthermore, Trump was most likely hit by shrapnel grazing his ear, not a bullet, since it was shrapnel that injured the four policemen nearest to Trump, and since his ear healed in a few days. Notably, the shooter was a White male Republican gun enthusiast, the same sort of people who are now sending bomb threats to a town that willingly took in Haitian refugees that have brought an economic boost to the area. It turns out, according to local employers, Haitians make better employees than the native locals who tend to vote Republican and are struggling with drug addiction and other vices typically seen in White rural areas dominated by right wingers.

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    23. Oh, David.

      "She knows that Trump didn't call Nazis and white supremacists 'fine people'"

      And you know--or at least, you ought to--that Harris made no such claim. She didn't say that Trump called Nazis and white supremacists 'fine people.' Check the transcript!

      She said there was a rally and a march in Charlottesville, one where people carried tiki torches and chanted antisemitic slogans. She said Trump said there were "fine people" on each side.

      And that is true!

      He said it! I have posted the transcript in these comments no fewer than three separate times. Did Trump specifically exclude neo-Nazis and white supremacists from his characterization? He did.

      Did Harris say he included them? She did not!

      You claim that "lying isn't considered bad" these days. That doesn't mean you can get by with it here.

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    24. David, Trump isn't "making the point." He's making s**t up!

      Not exactly. Trump is repeating shit a neo-Nazi made up. Trump is too fucking stupid to think of it on his own. He "saw it on TV".

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    25. Here is the problem with the fine people Trump identified in the immediate aftermath of Charlottesville: We saw these people on TV. They were angry, carried antisemitic signs and tiki torches KKK-style, and chanted racist and antisemitic rhetoric. In the immediate aftermath of that imagery, including the murder of a counter protester likewise captured on video, a sensible person would ask: why would an individual not sharing these vile thoughts be participating in this hate filled event, that was known to have been organized by white supremacists? What kind of person would leave their home to march side by side with this human scum? So real time, when Donald Trump stated that there were good people in this group, he was telling us this: that he is the same racist turd that would later praise Laura Loomer after hanging out with her in public and on his private jet. That is the Donald Trump who Harris so accurately described, the one praising participants in a racist and antisemitic mob that we saw with our own eyes and with the fresh memory of this condemned Trump’s comments at the time.

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  4. Trump isn't "making [a] point," dummy. He's race-baiting and fear-mongering for political purposes, placing lives in danger for his own selfish gain, just like he's done since day one.

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  5. "We'll be voting for Candidate Harris. Yesterday, her interview with Brian Taff sent out a very bad sign.
    You can watch the eleven minutes here. For people hoping that Harris will win, it was a troubling performance."

    A nonsense teaser.

    Maybe in the coming days/weeks/months Somerby might (to use one of his favorite weasel words) elaborate after putting his thumb on the scale.

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  6. Worth reading, since Somerby likes to accuse Democrats and any moderately intelligent speakers of English of falsely characterizing Trump’s “both sides” rhetoric:

    Why Is Snopes.com Helping Trump Clean Up “Very Fine People”?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/183082/nopes-trump-very-fine-people

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    1. 1:03 Thanks!

      Quoting from the article:

      “Snopes, which in fairness has often been a valuable debunker of right-wing disinformation and lies, fell for the semantic dance Trump performed, where implicit validation undercut explicit condemnation. By focusing on his technical disavowal of neo-Nazis, Snopes ignored the broader and more pernicious impact of his rhetoric. His words provided a veneer of legitimacy to those who shared a stage with hate. Trump’s tactic of occupying every possible rhetorical position allows his supporters to cherry-pick the most favorable interpretation, a classic case of doublespeak designed to muddy the waters of public discourse.

      Labeling this as “false” without acknowledging the nuance of Trump’s doublespeak misrepresents the reality of his rhetoric. This is not just about parsing words; it’s about understanding the implications of those words in their entirety. Failing to recognize this allows history to be rewritten in a way that sanitizes the dangerous equivocation of those in power.”

      This well describes the same kind of rhetorical tactics that Somerby employs.

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    2. Fact check: on the page dealing with Trump's Charlotteville comments, Snopes has an editor's note acknowledging your complaints.

      And as a fact-checking organization, Snopes sticks to facts, in this case what was actually said. They rightly do not venture out into the 'implications of words in their entirety'.

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    3. Except that those who understand English know that Trump’s duplicitous statements did wind up praising people in the Nazi group. You can’t reduce his bullshit to clear statements of disavowal, Hector.

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    4. The purpose of the Snopes piece is to clarify that if someone claims Trump directly referred to neo-Nazis as "very fine people," that claim is factually inaccurate. This distinction does happen, as some critics of Trump have spread the idea that he was calling the neo-Nazis themselves "very fine people," which the fact check addresses and debunks.

      Molloy is making a moral judgment that everyone at the rally, regardless of their intentions, is culpable because of their participation, suggesting that even those protesting the statue’s removal are morally tainted by their association with the broader white nationalist agenda of the event.

      The statement by Harris in the debate while technically true, misleads by omission and subtly distorts the full picture. It is an attempt to frame Trump's comment in the most morally repugnant light possible to get the public to override critical thinking, forget the broader context, and conclude that Trump is racist.

      The quote by Trump has always been used by his enemies to paint him as a racist or sympathetic towards white supremacists. Still, even after Harris replaced Biden, Trump is the most popular Republican presidential candidate (according to pre-election polls) since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

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    5. Trump has shown his bigotry time and again. You don’t have to be an expert philologist to understand that, when commenting on a “unite the right” rally, planned and attended by white supremacists and neo Nazis, where the attendees were chanting “Jews will not replace us”, that responding with “fine people on both sides” is the opposite of a condemnation of the hate that was on display.

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    6. 8:54 The fact check does not debunk that Trump was referencing neo Nazis. Nobody has been factually inaccurate, everybody quotes Trump properly and literally. Some Republicans do not like it when Trump is quoted accurately while then drawing an obvious conclusion that Trump was referencing neo Nazis. There’s no reason to take Trump’s “condemnation” at face value, Trump has a long history of being disingenuous.

      During Trump’s reign he was the least popular president in modern times, according to the polls. Trump then lost in 2020, having lost by the most votes in history. Sorry but your stance is untenable and therefore irrelevant.

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    7. What are you afraid of? It's not my stance. Take it up with Snopes or the people who conduct polls. It is factually inaccurate to claim Trump directly referred to neo-Nazis as "very fine people". (Molloy explicitly agrees with this.) Anyone is free to draw their own moral implications and conclusions that Trump is racist or sympathetic towards white supremacy.

      That is how Democrats have used the quote for years. Eg. Harris and Biden before her used the quote to lead their audiences to a misleading conclusion—namely, that Trump was endorsing neo-Nazis—while giving themselves plausible deniability through the technical accuracy of their words. Still, it is interesting right now among Black voters, Trump is the most popular Republican presidential candidate (according to pre-election polls) since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. This may reflect a growing frustration among Black voters with the Democratic Party. Who knows? Maybe because they see through this very type of manipulative framing of issues by Democratic Party leaders.

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    8. "since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964."
      The beginning of the modern Republican Party.

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    9. I guess Democrats weren't the only group who "misunderstood" Trump's morally ambiguous statements:
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      Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa https://t.co/tTESdV4LP0

      — David Duke (@DrDavidDuke) August 15, 2017
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  7. Re-visiting DeSantisland, where Somerby asked us to credit the Florida Governor with valid ideas:

    Florida school district must restore books with LGBTQ+ content under settlement

    https://apnews.com/article/florida-banned-books-lgbtq-publishing-81a54f4d50d42f6c84bc8fe7da9a4335

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  8. "At the same time MAGA leaders are trying to turn out their base, they are also working to make it harder for Democrats to vote. Yesterday, the Republican-controlled North Carolina Supreme Court decided to permit Independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to have his name taken off the ballot in that state, although, as Mark Joseph Stern reported in Slate, he did not ask to be removed until four days after he withdrew from the race, which was five days after the deadline for withdrawing.
    By the time he withdrew, county election boards were already printing ballots, and the court’s decision will require nearly three million ballots to be destroyed and new ones designed and printed. According to North Carolina’s state election director, this will take 18 to 23 days, and will cut into early voting. North Carolina law requires state officials to mail ballots to Americans living abroad and to service members by September 21.
    As Stern points out, Trump and Harris are effectively tied in North Carolina, and early voters there skew Democratic. . . .
    Today, Republicans in North Carolina sued to overturn the decision of the state election board that students and employees of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill can use state-approved digital IDs as identification for voting."

    https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxrichardson/posts/pfbid0iAL9DrLwackiRgXa2EGghf8rkCgVw2KqDRiz1xEVTKWB6MxfgH6EH5q4fzTr2Skl

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    1. Yes, it is infuriating. The is how trumplicans try to win. By using a corrupt partisan judiciary. They are letting fucking RFK Jr. fuck up early voting and the NC Supreme Court hacks know it. Anything to suppress the vote.

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  9. Somerby blames the democratization of media for Trump being popular. Huh!

    Somerby offers no evidence to support his misguided claim, likely because the evidence seems to point in the opposite direction.

    Trump will likely be defeated in large part due to the democratization of media.

    Back in the “good ol days” of Cronkite, we had such fine fellows becoming president like Nixon and Reagan, and the Bushes too count as pre-democratization; this cohort was responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, along with engaging in some of the worst corruption in US history. They also oversaw the single largest transfer of wealth in human history with $50+ trillion being taken from the bottom 90% and handed to the top 1%.

    How did that happen back in the Cronkite days?

    Here’s a clue: when Republican/right winger Powell became a SC Justice in ‘72, his old partner in crime, the Philip Morris corporation, threw him a celebratory party where guess who was the emcee - WALTER CRONKITE!

    Who is Powell? He was somewhat socially liberal, deciding on Roe and to protect affirmative action, but he was also a staunch supporter of corporate dominance, the author of the infamous Powell Memo that laid out the framework for our contemporary Project 2025.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/powell-memo-project-2025-plutocracy/

    Somerby is a poor thinker, an angry man with a pernicious agenda, and no substance.

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  10. DiC says: "BTW I am no expert in persuasion"

    Really? You've been playing one in these comments for some time now. You have argued on serveral occasions that you can correctly diagnose Trump's fantasies and misrepresentations as the expert work of a "super-persuader." But then, as you say, you're not an expert!

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  11. One Ohio employer agrees with David. The Haitian immigrants are not like us!

    "I wish I had 30 more [he currently employs 30 Haitian workers," CEO Jamie McGregor of Springfield-based McGregor Metal, explained it this way during his PBS News Hour interview. "Our Haitian associates come to work every day. They don't have a drug problem. They'll stay at their machine; they'll achieve their numbers. They're here to work. And so, in general, that's a stark difference from what we're used to in our community."

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    1. That foreigners are harder workers and more moral people than American citizens is not in dispute.

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    2. 7:34 : and maybe more law abiding, with crime statistics compiled by Texas law enforcement showing year after year lower crime rates over the past 4 years, you know with all those criminals coming across the border.

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