A VERY STABLE DUMBNESS: How did AOC get where she is?

FRIDAY, JANUARY 24, 2020

She spills with remarkable talent:
Did the New York Times editorial board really do "Mayo Pete" wrong?

That's a matter of judgment! For ourselves, we were surprised by the interview snippets which aired during Sunday's hour-long TV show, in which the board pretended to clue us in on how their most recent sausage was hatched.

For ourselves, we were embarrassed by the dumbness of the "Mayo Pete" snippet. Also, we were surprised by Binyamin Applebaum's remarkably hostile tone.

Later, should we have been surprised by the board's full interview with Buttigieg? Should we have been surprised to see that the interview started off like this?
KINGSBURY (1/19/20): Thank you for coming. So, we have heard you obviously talk about health care and climate and the Middle East a lot in the debates, so we’re going to try to ask you some questions we haven’t heard you answer in the past, and you will be shocked to hear that we’d like to start with your time at McKinsey.

You graduated from Oxford with sterling credentials. You could have pursued any number of career paths from there, including the choice you ultimately made to join the military. Can you walk us through why you decided to go to McKinsey from there?

BUTTIGIEG: Yeah, so the biggest thing was that I had a great academic education, but I was beginning to feel that there wasn’t as much real-world experience mixed in with it. That in particular, I was eager to do as many things as I could, touching as many fields as I could, and to understand business in particular, about how people and money and goods move around the world and how that works.

KINGSBURY: So you didn’t just want to make a lot of money?

BUTTIGIEG: What’s that?

KINGSBURY: You didn’t just want to make a lot of money?

BUTTIGIEG: I definitely noticed the paycheck and that was important, too. Yeah. I’m not going to pretend that that wasn’t on my mind, too.
At age 24, as he took his first job, was Pete just chasing the Benjamins? This strikes us as a very strange way to start an interview of this type.

That said, the board was perhaps a bit surprising again and again. This has often been the case, in the past thirty years, with the occasionally limited types who sit at the top of our press corps.

For the record, we aren't attempting to endorse the Mayonnaise Man. (He emerged from the session with a new handle: Rapmaster White 'n Bland.)

Our view? By normal standards, Buttigieg is too young, and too inexperienced, to be a viable candidate. On the brighter side, two of the other four front-runners are way too old by normal standards, and the fourth top contender spent several decades claiming to be Native American, which she plainly isn't and wasn't.

By normal standards, these top four contenders strike us as a highly beatable group. That said, the nominee, if there ever is one, will be running against the craziest person in political history. So at least there's that!

In our view, Buttigieg is way too young, but he's also transparently bright. He's so bright that he knew enough to answer The Question Posed to All The Hopefuls in the manner shown below:
KINGSBURY: We only have about half an hour left, so I want to turn to foreign policy, but before we do, I wanted to ask you one question which we are asking all of our candidates, which is, who has broken your heart?

BUTTIGIEG: I mean, Boston College. I was 11 years old. We were this close to the National Championship. And they came to South Bend, we were one game away, we had beaten Florida State, become No. 1. There wasn’t a B.C.S. back then, so when you finish the season undefeated, you’re the champion. And they came into our stadium, and they broke my little heart.
It's just as Mother always said: If you ask a silly question, you'll get a silly answer! So it went when Buttigieg had the smarts to stay away from the silly palaver the board had somehow dreamed up.

Did the Times editorial board have it in for Buttigieg? The interview seemed strange from the start, but he apparently ended up as one of the board's top four choices when they took an actual vote.

(On the TV show, the top four were said to be Warren, Klobuchar, Booker and Buttigieg, though not necessarily in that order. Ain't transparency grand?)

Someone apparently liked Mayor Pete; others did seem a bit hostile. Equally striking was a Buttigieg-themed piece which had appeared in the Sunday Times the same day the TV show aired.

The sprawling report to which we refer dominated the first page of Sunday's National section. The piece was written by Emma Goldberg, who's three years out of college.

(Yale, class of 2016. After that, she got a master's degree in gender studies at the University of Cambridge.)

Goldberg's piece involved the type of gender analysis the Times has (very) recently embraced. We'd say the topic is very important, but as with so many other topics, it's often pursued in the Times in the least insightful possible way.

The modern Times is rarely without a piece of this general type. Headline included, Goldberg started by repeating a Klobuchar complaint:
GOLDBERG (1/19/20): Would a 37-Year-Old Woman Be Where Pete Buttigieg Is?

Amy Klobuchar was 37 when she ran for Hennepin County district attorney. Her opponent, in a 1998 debate, labeled her “nothing but a street fighter”—to which Ms. Klobuchar responded, “thank you.” The image of a tough competitor is one that Ms. Klobuchar, who is now a Democratic senator from Minnesota and presidential candidate, has come to embrace. She swung a punch at a rival in her moderate ring during November’s Democratic debate, taking aim at Pete Buttigieg, then the mayor of South Bend, Ind.

“Do I think that we would be standing on that stage if we had the experience that he had?” Ms. Klobuchar said, speaking for her fellow female contenders. “No, I don’t. Maybe we’re held to a different standard.”

Ms. Klobuchar’s comment touched off conversations about whether a female version of Mr. Buttigieg—elected by fewer than 10,000 votes, with under a decade of experience—could have advanced so quickly in a crowded presidential field.
Klobuchar runs as a sensible centrist. In the instance cited by Goldberg, she was bellyaching hard.

Goldberg took the complaint and ran with it. By implication, sexism and misogyny were working against the female contenders again!

That said, we're able to answer Klobuchar's question, and the answer is largely no. In most cases, a 37-year-old woman would not have risen as fast as Buttigieg has. That said, the same is true of most 37-year-old men as well.

However Buttigieg might be judged overall, he's plainly a cut above the average political player in a type of pure intelligence. That said, has he only been permitted to rise because he's a talented man?

We'd have to say that the answer is no. Consider another rising star, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

AOC is eight years younger than The Mayonnaise Man. Her rise to national prominence as a 29-year-old first-term member of the House was perhaps more remarkable than the rise of Mayo Pete.

Question: Would a 30-year-old man be where AOC is today? It's hard to imagine such a thing, but that's because it's hard to picture talent like hers until it comes along.

AOC has risen to prominence because she spills with political talent and appeal. In our view, her appeal may exceed that of Candidate Buttigieg—but he has plainly visible talent too, and so did Barack Obama in The Summer of '04.

Barack Obama was 43 in The Summer of '04. He was a little-known back-bencher in the Illinois state legislature—but the Democratic Party had already seen that he was massively talented.

(Back in 1991, both parties knew the same thing about the little-known Bill Clinton.)

Obama was chosen to give the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic Convention—and when he did, he rocked the world. Less than three years later, he was was running for president, with major elements of the party and the upper-end press corps supporting him all along.

At the time, it was sometime asked: Could a very young, little-known white guy have risen as fast as Obama?

The answer, of course, was yes! But it's hard to picture such an unusually talented person until he comes along.

We like Candidate Klobuchar. We respect the type of person who comes up the traditional way, demonstrating that she can win local, then statewide, elections.

That said, Klobuchar doesn't have the kind of shooting-star political appeal of an AOC or an Obama. (She lacks "charisma," someone said on the TV show.) In our view, Buttigieg isn't on their level either—but he does possess a highly visible type of smarts which sets him apart from the field.

Goldberg may have been taught her critical theory well. Also, she's now at the New York Times, where a topic which isn't explored in a way which is perhaps somewhat scripted won't be examined at all.

Also, Goldberg is very young! Is it wise for the liberal world to cast its lot with such remarkably young and inexperienced journalistic leaders? It may save news orgs a couple of bucks, but is it a good idea?

The New York Times, an upper-class paper, has gone all in on race and gender in the past few years. The topics are very important, but the work may sometimes seem to tilt toward the scripted and the possibly somewhat dumb.

AOC has risen because she possesses highly unusual talent, as did Barack Obama. Speculation has already started about a White House race by AOC, once she's old enough to run.

Could a 30-year-old man be where AOC is? As a matter of fact, the answer is yes—if he had remarkable talent of the type she has.

If he had remarkable talent! Buttigieg is white and bland, the Times board thoughtfully told him. But he does possesses a type of visible talent. Just check out the smarts he displayed when asked who broke his heart!

Next week: Grievance Culture and Its (Scripted) Discontents

55 comments:

  1. What is this 'talent' you speak of, dear Bob? Politicians' 'talent' is their crookedness, chicanery, duplicity.

    The more 'talented' these bastards are, the less you should trust them, dear Bob.

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  2. “AOC has risen to prominence because she spills with political talent and appeal.”

    Has Somerby actually examined her views on the dreaded “identity politics?” He apparently has not, or he wouldn’t engage in the cognitive dissonance of praising AOC for something nebulous like “charisma”, as opposed to her policy proposals, while simultaneously sneering at women’s complaints about gender bias, complaints that AOC also makes. On the subject of racism, she is in agreement with Ta-Nahesi Coates.

    Somerby would also be advised to examine the Republican reaction to AOC. It is hardly filled with praise for her political appeal. She is uniquely polarizing. Even Uncle Joe said so.

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    1. Please don't use words like "cognitive dissonance" unless you've looked up what they mean. No one need suffer from cognitive dissonance to disagree with a politician and still recognize her talent for appealing to voters.

      TDH's thesis is that AOC is talented and has risen quickly to prominence. Republican reaction to AOC proves his point. Republicans wouldn't waste their breath on someone whose appeal they didn't fear. Try to focus.

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    2. Cognitive dissonance -- "the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change."

      How does @1:26's usage not fit this definition? He clearly described two inconsistent beliefs.

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    3. How does @1:26's usage not fit this definition? He clearly described two inconsistent beliefs.

      First of all, @1:26 has described one belief each from two different people. The first is TDH’s belief that AOC is politically talented and politically appealing. The second is @1:26’s own belief that TDH would find AOC’s “policy proposals” distasteful.

      Need I point out that cognitive dissonance requires two conflicting beliefs in the same head?

      Even supposing that TDH believes that AOC is mistaken on policy, there’s nothing inconsistent with believing that she is talented and appealing when she presents her policies.

      Need I point out that cognitive dissonance requires two conflicting beliefs on the same topic?

      It would be cognitive dissonance to believe that AOC is so mistaken that she’s the worse candidate in every way, but then voting for her anyway.

      Need I point out that my previous two questions were rhetorical?

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  3. What is charisma anyway?

    If it weren’t for that mean Bernie Shaw, Dukakis’ “charisma” surely would have caused him to coast to victory...

    Did Al Gore have “charisma”? I voted for him because I supported his policies and thought he would be a good president.

    How about Bernie? Any analysis of his charisma factor from TDH, or does his age outweigh all other considerations?

    Clinton and Obama were unique and gifted political talents.

    These are few and far between. You can’t expect this in every candidate. It’s unrealistic. But apparently, Somerby is looking for this, a uniquely talented “shooting star” Democrat, regardless of actual policy positions, to lead us out of the mess, all the while the GOP runs duds like the Bushes, or “charismatic” monstrosities like Trump.

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    1. But apparently, Somerby is looking for this, a uniquely talented “shooting star” Democrat,

      TDH says he likes Klobuchar, whom he describes thusly:

      Klobuchar doesn't have the kind of shooting-star political appeal of an AOC or an Obama. (She lacks "charisma," someone said on the TV show.)

      So apparently you didn’t bother to read the blog entry in its entirety or you simply can’t comprehend what you read.

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    2. Somerby is looking for this, a uniquely talented “shooting star” Democrat,'

      Actually, Somerby is looking for any excuse to bash Democrats, and support his idols -- DJT, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes, Roy Moore, Jim Jordan.

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    3. Klobuchbar has a great quality. When you listen to her talk, she makes a great deal of sense and you wish she could win. I think that is better than "charisma".

      Stormy Daniels has a lot of charisma. Somerby thinks she is a con artist. I doubt any woman can win with him, except perhaps his sainted mother.

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    4. Klobuchbar has a great quality. When you listen to her talk, she makes a great deal of sense and you wish she could win. I think that is better than "charisma”.

      Thanks for sharing. Don’t you think TDH might agree with you?

      Stormy Daniels has a lot of charisma.

      Thanks for sharing. I’m sure it was ol’ Stormy’s charisma that got her elected to the AVN* and XRCO** Halls of Fame.

      Somerby thinks she is a con artist.

      She’s a grifter, just on a smaller scale that the real estate developer she had sex with to get on his “reality” TV show.

      I doubt any woman can win with him, except perhaps his sainted mother.

      No thanks for sharing. Are you aware that after Somerby’s mother died in 1993, he talked in his work about the troubled relationship he had with her? I haven’t seen the routines, but apparently Somerby’s “sainted” mother once disowned him.

      But please, comment some more on Somerby and women. I’m sure your informed comments will be fascinating.

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    5. Of course he had a troubled relationship with her. He's Irish.

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  4. “the fourth top contender spent several decades claiming to be Native American, which she plainly isn't and wasn't.”

    Somerby is such an asshole about Warren. He reduces her to this one thing, just like Donald fucking Trump.

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    1. I think the point is that insane lie by Warren is basically a deal-breaker in terms of her getting elected. You have to admit it's very weird. She also claimed her father was a janitor, which he was not. Rightly or wrongly, these weird lies most likely make her damaged good.

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    2. She also claimed her father was a janitor, which he was not.

      What was he then?

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    3. Chief Wild Eagle of the Hekawi Tribe.

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    4. I believe back in the 90s he changed his name to Great Father Of Harvard Law School's First Womyn Of Color.

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    5. He was a maintenance man, not a janitor. She used janitor on the campaign trail to make it sound more lowbrow than what it was. Ie. scrubbing toilets and not fixing faucets.

      I know it's petty and kind of a small difference, and I know the no-longer-relevant, antiquated blogs that you read are sarcastic about it which makes you feel good but it's also tweaking the truth just a little bit. And that's just enough for Trump to rake her over the coals with. Nominate her. Nominate her and you will see. Or maybe you won't. Nominate her and all of her glaring flaws will be more illuminated under the bright lights. She's an extremely weak candidate. And Democrats are an extremely weak party with an extremely weak constituency. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is man. For God's sake, you lost to Donald Trump! That's how weak and pathetic you are. You idiots need to pull it together.

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    6. Stanton, please troll better. I know the bar has been set below grade by commenters like Mao and Flip Liquid, but we deserve better.

      Warren called herself a Native American when her closest Indian relative was six generations back. Opportunistic? Sure. Misleading. Yeah. But insane? I’m reliably informed that this is a long-standing affectation among Oklahomans.

      Warren has claimed her father was a janitor. What was “wrongly” about this? Was he actually a hedge-fund manager? She described his last job as one that required mowing lawns and cleaning a swimming pool. You think it’s “weird” to describe that work as janitorial?

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    7. I thought the complaint about Warren was she didn't reply, "I'll make Mexico pay for it", when asked how we'll be able to afford her education and healthcare policies.
      Let the corporate-owned media (AKA the media) explain why they only let Republicans get away with that nonsense.

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    8. Hey dead rat if you don't think any of those are a problem, nominate her. Go for it. you idiots are so naive it's unbelievable. You want to debate the points amongst yourselves and on your own terms but the issue is how the points are debated amongst the larger public and turned against her and you by propagandists from the other side. Which you don't even seem to consider! The questions you asked here don't matter. They show how dense and out-of-touch you are. But just go for it man. Nominate her. You idiots are in a bubble.

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    9. What is interesting is that you are not being truthful. You are not looking at the obvious truth. The truth is she was gilding the lilly. She used that word to make it sound worse than it was. Obviously. Of course that's true. You know that right? That is clear and obvious to you right? In both cases. Of course you do. You don't? Most people do understand that of course she is gilding the lilly with those white lies. It's obvious. You can debate the fine points about lawn mowing blah blah blah but she used the word to make it sound worse than it was. You have to look at the situation honestly! Pretending she was not is a big mistake. You people look at situations like this like small children. Like you can debate your way out of it like a five-year-old, when you, everyone, the whole world knows that you're caught. Like any of your bullshit rationalizations matter. None of that matters. She was telling white lies. We all do it.

      If you don't think it's a problem and you think they could be overcome, nominate her. Go for it. At least be truthful and real about it. People sniff out that unreal-ness is really bad for Democrats. But don't take my word for it. Nominate her. Tell the world about the charming dustbowl traditions and lawn mowers.

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    10. @8:27P, Welcome to the ranks of the Anonymous Ignoramuses. You’re in good company with the rest of your peers who can’t read for comprehension either.

      I’ll type extra slowly for you in the hopes that you can follow:

      I wanted to challenge two points put forward by a likely troll who calls himself Stanton.
      Neither of those points involved “the larger public.”

      No questions asked here matter. This is just a comment section on a blog nobody reads. The comment section is infested with trolls, one village idiot named David, spammers, and anonymous ignoramuses like you.

      Nominate her? You think I have anything to say about the Democratic nominee? In any case, Warren is not my choice. I agree with Bernie, no woman can win the election because of the rampant misogyny released by the band of happy fascists now running the country and the other party.

      And please stop telling me what I consider and what I don’t. That’s my job.

      My nym is one word. Have the common courtesy to leave out any spaces.

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    11. 'no woman can win the election because of the rampant misogyny released by the band of happy fascists now running the country and the other party.'

      Glad you agree with me about Trumptards like TDH.

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    12. 'Somerby is such an asshole about Warren.'

      You could have left out the 'about Warren' qualifier and have been even more accurate

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    13. Anonymous Ignoramus @8:54P opines,

      She was telling white lies. We all do it.

      Then why is it a disqualification to run for President? See below for the answer. I’m sure you won’t be able to figure it out for yourself.

      Anonymous Ignoramus @8:54P whines,

      You can debate the fine points about lawn mowing blah blah blah but she used the word to make it sound worse than it was.

      In other words, the hell with your rational argument that you can call someone a janitor because they do janitorial work.

      Anonymous Ignoramus @8:54P instructs,

      People sniff out that unreal-ness is really bad for Democrats. But don't take my word for it.

      Oh, don’t lose any sleep over my taking the word of someone who uses cliches like “gild the lily” and can’t even spell the name of the painted flower.

      On the most “unreall-ness” day of Elizabeth Warren’s life, nothing she said or did approaches the mendacity, thievery, and phoniness of the person she would be running against. Remember that the nominee of the other party lied about paying a porn actress to keep quiet about having sex with him shortly after his wife gave birth.

      That’s pretty much ebony on the grey-scale of lies. Where’s Elizabeth Warren? Ivory? Floral? Seashell? You tell me. The fact that this matter is trivial but you still natter on like it’s important tells me either 1) you’re a troll, but not a good one (always a possibility in this commentariat) or 2) you’re clueless (always a probability among anonymous commenters) or 3) both.

      Elizabeth Warren’s weakness may be found by counting her chromosomes: 2X,0Y. If she hadn’t said she was Native American or that her father was a janitor, it would be something else innocuous that she’d said. If she’d said nothing that could be made objectionable, it would be something made up.

      And it turns out that that’s just fine with a steady 40% of voters.

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    14. deadrat, good to read you as always.

      Sounds like you’re a Warren supporter, if not, at least a defender. Of course, I’ll vote for her if she wins the primaries. I’d vote for a bonobo if I thought they could win. They have the reputation of being very loving primates.

      I tend to favor the argument that Warren has been mendacious: She wasn’t just “gilding the lily” when she claimed indigenous status at Harvard, where she was listed as a minority in their rolls – if what I’ve read is true on this matter. If it’s not, I will be glad to stand corrected.

      And I agree, the difference between “janitor” and “maintenance man” is a non-issue. But the idea many have expressed, that Trump will make mincemeat of Warren in debate over these issues, cannot be ignored. I would vote for her, and even I would (and do) doubt her denials on the genetic issue. Sorry man, science loses for me, this time.

      I get that you’re a Bernie-bro like I am. And I get that you’re arguing specific points. But I’m not sure if there’s any need to defend Warren, though I’ll do my best should she win the nomination. She’s going to have to stand on her own two feet against the monstrosity that is Trump and the Republican party. And I think she’d be a good President, if she can withstand what’s coming should she win the nomination.

      Leroy

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    15. Even the idea that a candidate is lying is a deal breaker in Presidential Elections. If the candidate is a Democrat.

      It really shines a light on the idiocy of Smoerby's 'both sides" bullshit..

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    16. It's not a disqualification to run for President, it just makes her a shitty candidate.

      "In other words, the hell with your rational argument that you can call someone a janitor because they do janitorial work." YES exactly! You are not dealing with rationality - that's my core point!!! Read Notes From the Underground. Yes, that is THEE point. The whole point. That point applies to so, so much current liberal blather. YES, YES, YES!!!! The hell with your rational argument! Your rational arguments have gotten you liberals where you are. HATED ! Triple yes with a fuck ya on top, the hell with your rational argument! If you could learn anything libs, learn this!!! Rationality is your enemy. If you idiots had read and understood Dostoevsky, Trump would make total sense to you.

      You think I'm a clueless troll but I'm not the one expecting rationality to win the day and the electorate to respond rationally to some sort of comparative mendacity ledger. Sorry child. that ain't the way the world works. But this is great! We are GETTING SOMEWHERE!! YES!!!!

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    17. It may be that western rationalism is the sole culprit of you idiot's cluelessness. That and industrial and technological culture taking you so far away from basic, visceral human experiences like hands-on child birth or cleaning and burying a dead body, or killing what you eat, building the structure in which you live etc. It's stolen your instincts and made you insensitive to the deeper, darker, irrational aspect of humanity. You sit there with your thumb up your ass expecting to make rational arguments in the face of a situation, like this one, where core issue is clear and in front of your face but still, you idiots can't see it. Gawd, what can be done about this? You morons lose major elections to game show hosts that don't even want to win!!!! Hmmnn. It's a puzzle. I am optimistic though. We have been, astrologically, back in the Age of Aquarius since 2012. Politically, we are bound to catch up. Hmmnn.. You all are seriously idiotic obviously losing elections to game show hosts etc. But I think there may be a pivotal event coming. We'll have to see.

      But rationality is not your friend. You idiots should start there.

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    18. Wallace Thrasher oxymoronically claims

      It's not a disqualification to run for President, it just makes her a shitty candidate.

      If by “shitty” you mean she’s unelectable, then that’s pretty much a disqualification to be the nominee.

      You, or someone as ignorant as you wrote @8:54,

      You can debate the fine points about lawn mowing blah blah blah but she used the word to make it sound worse than it was.

      This is a rational argument. It’s a losing rational argument because it’s based on a false premise on the kind of work that Warren’s father had done. But that doesn’t make it irrational. But when I point that out, you start typing in ALL CAPS about not dealing with rationality and that liberals are HATED.

      And you’re right, liberals are so hated, er, sorry, HATED, that their last candidate lost the popular vote by 3M votes, and they failed to retake the House in 2018. I might have some of the details wrong on that last, but you get my gist.

      If rationality is our enemy, then everything is lost. I don’t say that because I have some abiding faith in rationality, but because no one can compete with Republicans and their fellow-traveling “conservatives” on the playing ground of irrationality. They’ve got home field advantage.

      I’m not sure that you’re a troll. You could just be someone who read the Cliff’s notes for Notes from the Underground for a community college lit course. Get back to me when you’ve read the work in Russian.

      What I am sure is that you, like your Anonymous buddies, can’t read for comprehension. You seem to yelling at me about the electorate’s responding to a “mendacity ledger,” by which I assume you mean a meter for political lies. But I’m not. If you could actually read for comprehension, you’d know that I think any woman will lose to Trump.

      Here’s what rationality is good at: figuring out what’s really going on. Elizabeth Warren’s “lies” comparatively speaking, barely qualify as fibs, so it can’t be what she actually said or did that’s the problem. That means that if she hadn’t said she was Native American, then her enemies, abetted by a lazy press, would attack her for something else equally as pointless. The janitor/maintenance man thing perhaps. And if they couldn’t find anything she’d said, they’d make something up.

      This irrationality is called misogyny, and that’s what disqualifies Warren.

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    19. That and industrial and technological culture taking you so far away from basic, visceral human experiences like hands-on child birth or cleaning and burying a dead body, or killing what you eat, building the structure in which you live etc. It's stolen your instincts and made you insensitive to the deeper, darker, irrational aspect of humanity.

      Dude, don't bogart that doobie; pass it.

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    20. Rationality is good at figuring out what’s really going on???

      That's your response?

      BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHWHHWHAAH

      You idiots are hopeless. And no, you know nothing of Dostoevsky and your insults are just a pathetic cover for it. Bye! Good luck idiot!

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    21. deardat - when you do get around to reading Notes From Underground, start on page 33 and read carefully from there.

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    22. Forget about Dostoevsky, these idiots have no chance of even reading him let alone understanding him. deadrat is a liar who implied he read the Mueller report - but of course he did not. Just like all the other fools here he didn't even read it. You think he could read Dostoevsky? (even though NFU is shorter than the Mueller report.)

      But what they can and should read is Listen Liberal.

      That's where you pathetic morons should start.

      You don't even know what liberalism is!

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    23. The Right's problem with Warren is she wants to hold businesspeople accountable for their crimes.

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    24. Wallace Thrasher,
      Screw rationality. When debating a Right-winger, you win the argument by giving them what THEY SAY they want.
      If THEY SAY they are against welfare programs because they believe in "merit", agree and tell them that's why we need a 100% Estate Tax Rate. Let their kids get a job like the rest of us.
      Their cries for "small government" fits perfectly with a country that has abortion on demand.
      THEY SAY they want government to get out of the way of business? Then agree that ALL government subsidies to private businesses are ended today. And wait until they see our patent reform programs.

      Let's face it, the last thing Right-wingers want is what they say they want.
      Right-wingers aren't just lying to us, they are lying to themselves.

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    25. Anonymous Ignoramus @9:27 brays,

      Rationality is good at figuring out what’s really going on???

      That's your response?

      BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHWHHWHAAH


      That’s your response? So, as I suspect, you’ve never tried it.

      I’m not the one claiming to know something about Dostoevsky. You are. Get back to me after you’ve read it in the original. Until then, just throwing around a traditionally-translated title doesn’t impress me.

      Did your community college instructor give you an A in your lit survey course?

      Delete
  5. These accusations about trivial things (such as who has Indian heritage and Hillary's emails) give cover to those whose real objections are sexist.

    Nothing Warren has said or done is as serious as objections that can be raised against Bernie and Biden, but men pretend they are, so that they have an excuse not to take female candidates seriously.

    Women aren't fooled by these kinds of discussions.

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  6. Deadrat, you don't stop nominating women because you fear they cannot win. You nominate them and then you work to get the votes to elect them. Why? Because women will do a better job.

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    1. Deadrat, you don't stop nominating women because you fear they cannot win.

      This isn’t gender studies class, sweetheart. And it ain’t beanbag, either. It’s politics, where you stop yourself from nominating people who can’t win.

      You nominate them and then you work to get the votes to elect them.

      That’s adorable. Apparently you were asleep in November 2016. Wake up and look up the popular vote totals and get back to me.

      Why? Because women will do a better job.

      This is a debatable point, but one on which I agree. If only because the bar has been buried so deep by men. I'm not saying that that isn't sad as all get out. I'm saying that it obtains. Which means that women won’t be doing that better job since they won’t be elected.

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  7. Sean from MorgantownJanuary 24, 2020 at 11:42 PM

    Hey Joe Manchin: be so kind as to fuck all the way off, you phony poltroon!

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