Should Candidate Warren have told those jokes?

THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 2020

Tater Tots jump the shark:
Last Tuesday, the Washington Post discussed some jokes which Candidate Warren told as part of a high-profile event last fall.

The jokes were delivered during a town hall forum broadcast by CNN. In last Tuesday's report, the Post brushed by a striking bit of information—the exchange, which seemed to be spontaneous, had in fact been pre-planned.

That said, should Warren have told the jokes at all? They possessed a Dowdian type of inverted sexual politics, the kind which affirms traditional ridicule when aimed in other directions.

More broadly, the jokes ridiculed the millions of people who hold a particular view which major Democrats widely held right through the last election.

Should Warren have told those jokes? In real time, Ruth Marcus said she shouldn't have. Marcus said that Warren's "good zingers" made for "bad politics."

We're inclined to agree with that view. To peruse her column, click here.

Meanwhile, as previously noted:

In yesterday's New York Times, readers were handed a dispiriting front-page report about a type of identity Babel within the Buttigieg campaign. One of the sachems whose views were ignored is one year out of college.

On the "Times readers just wanna have fun" side of town, the paper led its National section with this lengthy report about several candidates' dogs.

As a kindness, we didn't mention a third report in yesterday's Times—but the report apparently went over big with subscribers. On this morning's page A3 (print editions only), we learned how big it was:
The Conversation
FOUR OF THE MOST READ, SHARED AND DISCUSSED POSTS FROM ACROSS NYTIMES.COM

[...]

3. A Classic Midwestern Dish Becomes a Talking Point in Iowa
Parties hosted by the presidential campaign of Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota have been featuring a local favorite from her home state, Taconite Tater Tot Hot Dish.
This too was a front-page report. In this case, it was the featured front-page report in yesterday morning's Food section. The report about the candidates' dogs was the featured front-page report in yesterday's National section.

Because of its placement in Food, we didn't mention the featured report about the Tater Tot Hot Dish. But you can't keep a failed electorate down!

According to today's A3, the report about the tater tot dish became one of the most discussed reports in the whole New York Times empire! Inquiring minds wanted to read, discuss and share!

Alas! We've been encouraging you to process the claim that "it's all anthropology now." The decades-long dumbness of our national discourse has taken us past the point where the River Styx flows to the sea. All that's left is the anthropology—the attempt to explain the source of the cascading stupidities which have left us with Donald J. Trump.

Might we suggest one more possible exhibit? We take you to New York magazine, where two reporters debated this topic today:
Could Elizabeth Warren’s Ground Game Propel Her to an Iowa Victory?
Their conversation may have been sharp. We didn't bother to read it.

That said, we can answer the question that headline poses. The answer to that question is yes!

Yes, her ground game could propel her to victory—but also, it might not. It's also true that we'll all find out if we simply wait a few days.

That said, rational animals love to speculate. They love to sift through polls.

They love to waste large chunks of time making useless predictions. When we say it's all anthropology now, this is yet another part of what we incomparably mean.

Full disclosure RE sources and methods: This report was prepared in consultation with Future Anthropologists Huddled in Caves, a disconsolate group of future scholars who report to us from the years which follow the global conflagration to which they refer only as Mister Trump's War.

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  1. "That said, should Warren have told the jokes at all?"

    Should, shouldn't - what does it even mean, dear Bob?

    Clowns will clown. And while clowning, they do what their consultants, who get paid shitloads of money, tell them to do. So that they can get elected, clown some more, and then get paid by the banksters for the service (but ostensibly for lecturing them).

    And that's all there is to it, dear Bob.

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  2. “Who knows? Maybe Democrats would get even more votes if they took Marcus’ advice—if they became more “centrist/moderate.”

    Marcus thinks the Democrats should move back toward the “middle” in the hope of attracting more votes.

    “In our view, Marcus offers lousy advice.”

    Somerby has apparently had a change of heart since he wrote this in 2012 about Ruth Marcus.

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  3. “They love to waste large chunks of time making useless predictions.”

    He says, after recommending Ruth Marcus’ useless predictions:

    “Marcus said that Warren's "good zingers" made for "bad politics."

    We're inclined to agree with that view.”

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  4. This is what Warren went on to say about gay marriage at that LGBTQ town hall. Just hear the elite condescension:

    “Warren later reflected on how faith influences many people's beliefs towards the LGBTQ community, including her own, and recited the first song she remembers learning as a child in Oklahoma.
    "They are yellow, black and white. They are precious in his sight. Jesus loves all the children of the world," she sang.
    "That was the basis of the faith I grew up in," she said, growing more serious. "It truly is about the preciousness of each and every life. It is about the worth of every human being.

    Warren went on to say that while her exposure to the community was "gradual" as not many people were out "in those days" in Oklahoma, she was always shocked by the hatefulness towards the community, especially from people of faith.
    "I think the whole foundation (of faith) is the worth of every single human being," Warren said. "I get people may make decisions for themselves that are different than the decisions other people make. But, by golly, those are decisions about you. They are not decisions that tell other people what they can and cannot do."

    Now, how exactly did her “jokes” become the focus of her remarks? Could it be media know-nothings like Ruth Marcus and those “inclined to agree” with her, like Somerby, who make sure this is the only thing anyone notices or cares about from Warren’s appearance?

    What say you, Mr Media Critic?

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  6. "Full disclosure RE sources and methods: This report was prepared in consultation with Future Anthropologists Huddled in Caves, a disconsolate group of future scholars who report to us from the years which follow the global conflagration to which they refer only as Mister Trump's War."

    Does Somerby think that there will be any anthropologists huddled in caves, if there is a conflagration after Trump's war? Those caves will be occupied by the pushiest, most violent survivors, most likely militia members or survivalists (preppers), not meek academics whose main skill seems to be tutt-tutting. Anthropologists will be busy using their preserved knowledge of ancient civilizations to reinvent agriculture and pot-throwing.

    This is how we know Somerby is full of shit.

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    1. Somerby thinks this is a big joke. Then he criticizes Warren for telling a canned joke that is apparently a big crowd pleaser at her rallies. No doubt Somerby is jealous of her ability to get laughs. Stand up consists of telling the same jokes over and over, so who is he to criticize Warren on that basis? Does he expect her rally speeches to be improvised? Next we'll hear that Warren is insufficiently "authentic", which was his implication with this criticism of her canned joke being "news".

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