THURSDAY: Landslide which wasn't yields disapproval!

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2025

"Dictator" unmentioned at Fox: All in all, the early headlines weren't especially good. 

The commander had seemed to say that it was actually Ukraine which had actually started the war. That nation's president was a "dictator," he then unmistakably said.

You didn't have to read the columns which resulted—the headlines delivered the mail. There was quite a lot of disapprobation, including from the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal:

Trump Tilts Toward a Ukraine Sellout
He puts more pressure on Kyiv for a deal than he does on the Kremlin.

 Oof! Even from that perch in the Murdoch realm, that's what the dual headline said—and so too at the New York Post!

Trump is asking for FAR too much ‘payback’ from war-torn Ukraine

That's a Murdoch entity too.

Over at the New York Times, Nicholas Kristof quickly weighed in:

With Trump’s Prostration to Putin, Expect a More Dangerous World

Kristof is center left. At the same newspaper, Bret Stephens is center right, but he was offering this:

Vance’s Munich Disgrace

That column predated the "dictator" play, though only by a few hours. Stephens was savaging the recent speeches in Europe by the guy who invented the story about Haitians eating everyone's pets.

Two voices spoke at The Atlantic. Eliot Cohen has long been a man of the center right. His column appeared beneath this:

Incompetence Leavened With Malignity
The Trump administration’s Ukraine policy is liable to end in disaster.

Tom Nichols had generally been center right too, though he's long been anti-Trump. His dual headline said this:

A Terrible Milestone in the American Presidency
Trump switches sides in the war for freedom.

Over at the Washington Post, David Ignatius doubles as a regular player in the most intelligent discussions seen in American cable news. His headline was negative too:

A Trump outrage that stands apart
The president blames Ukraine for its own brutalization.

So it suddenly went, around the dial, as Trump trashed the great dictator. You'll recall that our digest includes the editorial boards of 1) the Wall Street Journal and 2) the New York Post!

On the programs of the Fox News Channel, silence largely prevailed. Is it true that Ukraine had started the war? Is it true that Zelensky's a dictator? 

The word "dictator" has barely been uttered on Fox News Channel programs. That said, Brit Hume, the channel's chief political analyst, managed to smuggle a samizdat out. You can read all about it in this report at Mediaiite:

‘Music to Vladimir Putin’s Ears’: Fox News’ Brit Hume Reacts Ominously to Trump’s Latest Anti-Ukraine Screed

It isn't that everyone has to agree, in every way, with the views which were generally expressed by this array of observers. But over at the Fox News Channel, the usual suspects engaged in discussions of other topics and sometimes fell back on sheer clowning.

The open misogyny continued apace on the gruesome Gutfeld! show. As usual, the women of The View were quickly compared to whales. 

As usual, things went downhill from there. They pry the lid off this braindead garbage can at 10 p.m. every night!

Along the way, the landslide which actually wasn't a landslide was sliding toward disapproval. The Washington Post reports:

Many of Trump’s early actions are unpopular, Post-Ipsos poll finds

President Donald Trump has opened his second term with a flurry of actions designed to radically disrupt and shrink the federal bureaucracy, but reviews from Americans are mixed to negative on many of his specific initiatives, and 57 percent say he has exceeded his authority since taking office, according to a Washington Post-Ipsos poll.

Overall, 43 percent of Americans say they support what the president has done during his first month in office, with 48 percent saying they oppose. Those who strongly oppose outnumber those who strongly support by 37 percent to 27 percent.

The president’s supporters applaud him for deporting undocumented immigrants and cutting government waste. Those unhappy with the direction he is taking the country say they fear Trump is allowing billionaire Elon Musk to dismantle critical government programs.

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Overall, the Post-Ipsos poll finds 45 percent of adults approve of the way Trump is handling his job, while 53 percent disapprove. That net-negative rating is worse than findings in other public polls. A Washington Post average of February polls shows 47 percent approving and 49 percent disapproving. Whether the difference reflects normal variation in public polls or a more negative reaction to recent actions is not clear.

So how about it? Is it 43-48 negative, or 45-53? As always, different questions yield different results in this most complex of all possible worlds. 

That said, neither set of numbers looks amazingly good. Very few presidents (if any?) have ever managed to go in the hole as fast as this one has.

Can you hear them cuckoos hollerin'? At present, the answer is starting to look like a yes. 

What kind of reaction might larger disapproval occasion? It all depends on the extent of the possible madness which has largely gone unnamed and has, lacking a name, largely been under-discussed.


53 comments:

  1. Anyone who weeps about Ukraine, but does not care about countries in Africa, say Sudan, is a racist. To be fair, weeping should be proportional to the populations affected.

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    1. I care about Sudan but not Ukraine.

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    2. Trump doesn't care about shithole countries, he says. He doesn't know that Africa is a continent, not a country. Now he is denying Haitians admitted to asylum due to special circumstances the right to live in the USA under temporary visas. Haiti is another shithole, amirite?

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  2. "That's a Murdoch entity too."

    Globalists-neocons are very powerful, Bob. Of course Idiot-Democrats predicted that globalists-neocons would be in Gitmo by now, but idiotic predictions don't usually come true.

    "Overall, 43 percent of Americans say they support what the president has done during his first month in office, with 48 percent saying they oppose. "

    Is this one of those idiot-Democrat polling experts who predicted Donald Trump losing Iowa by landslide?

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  3. There are no better arguments in favor of DEI than Musk and Trump. Their dramatic incompetence in office shows that preferring white males for jobs is a huge mistake, judgment by the performance of those receiving preferential treatment.

    Thom Hartmann examines the lack of qualifications of Trump's cabinet picks, many of whom have been helped by a system of preferential treatment that favors white men (and attractive women who will be compliant with Trump's demands).

    https://hartmannreport.com/p/dei-exposes-the-myth-of-white-male-6d6

    Hartmann takes it for granted that the public knows that these firings are aimed at removing all members of diverse groups from their jobs. It has nothing to do with finding waste or incompetence in the govt. It is solely about removing anyone female, black, or otherwise not white male from govt employment. That is what the bonuses for turning in anyone connected with DEI (which is code for someone diverse) are about. DOGE is getting rid of minorities and making the top levels of management white again. And they are doing this explicitly in order to roll back civil rights progress.

    The same thing is happening in our schools. Anything presenting slavery as a negative, the civil war about slavery, Jim Crow as wrong, and presenting the civil rights movement in a positive light, is being removed from the curriculum. Black authors are being banned from school libraries and reading lists. The accomplishments of women, gay people and minorities are being removed from museums and webpages. This is a direct assault on the diversity existing in our multicultural society.

    If the Nazis in our society had been given explicit permission to go into all of our social and cultural places and root out diversity, their efforts would look no different than what has been happening in the name of "government waste" and "efficiency". Attaching those words to the work efforts of diverse people is itself a huge insult to working people in our governent.

    Don't be fooled by what Trump and Elon say is happening. We can all see it for what it is.

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    1. Kash Patel is a token Asian.

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    2. Like Dinesh D'Souza
      But they are both normalizing anti-India hate.

      Pointing out JD Vance's wife and children doesn't negate what the anti-DEI campaign in doing nationwide, nor the motives of these Nazi fucks.

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    3. Now, thank God, DEI Nazis are out of luck.

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    4. They don't seem to be. What about Nick Fuentes, for example? These Nazis who are themselves members of diverse groups are still attacking others on the basis of DEI. I don't understand it, other than some identification with the so-called master race. The people being fired for being diverse are not Nazis, for the most part. The commitment to DEI runs counter to all Nazi values and their platform. The attacks on DEI are bigoted and racist, as are Nazis.

      When Trump says something anti-semitic, everyone says "but son-in-law and grandkids are Jewish" as if that has anything to do with hate. People make exceptions or divide the targeted group into "good" and "bad" exemplars, while stereotyping the whole group in ugly ways and persecuting targets. Hitler was supposedly part-Jewish himself but that didn't stop him from exterminating Jews.

      Musk and Trump are being systematic in firing certain people. They know who their targets are, as specified by Project 2025. The crusade against DEI is explicit but not the only people they are taking revenge against. USAID freezes seem to be motivated by conspiracy theories, but that doesn't mean Trump doesn't consider the countries and people being helped as "shithole countries" which to him means non-white and poor, unlike the good countries (such as Norway, he has said).

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    5. The Right says the racism isn't because individuals are bigots, but that the system is.
      Agreed.

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    6. Students can't read anything longer than three paragraphs anymore. How does narrowing education to a debate over historical soundbites resolve this?

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  4. Other names besides madness that might be applied to Musk and Trump: incompetent, fraudulent, criminal, bigoted, self-serving, impeachable, treasonous. If Somerby used those words more often, we might get somewhere opposing the actions of those men and the others destroying our country.

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    1. What do you think you accomplish by calling random people "Corby"?

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    2. It's okay, Corby. Don't be shy.

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  5. This is the lying piece of shit who Trump has made co-President.

    "X owner Elon Musk threw a tantrum on Thursday after being called out for falsely claiming that President Joe Biden deliberately stranded astronauts in space.

    During an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Musk claimed that Biden had left two astronauts stuck in space for nearly a year for purported "political reasons."

    This caught the attention of European Space Agency commander Andreas Mogensen, who took to X to hold Musk to account.

    "What a lie," wrote Mogensen. "And from someone who complains about lack of honesty from the mainstream media."

    Musk responded by hurling slurs at the astronaut.

    "You are fully r------d," Musk wrote. "SpaceX could have brought them back several months ago. I OFFERED THIS DIRECTLY to the Biden administration and they refused. Return WAS pushed back for political reasons. Idiot."

    Mogensen tried offer a more diplomatic reply.

    "Elon, I have long admired you and what you have accomplished, especially at SpaceX and Tesla," he began. "You know as well as I do, that Butch and Suni are returning with Crew-9, as has been the plan since last September. Even now, you are not sending up a rescue ship to bring them home. They are returning on the Dragon capsule that has been on ISS since last September." [Rawstory]

    https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2671189536/?utm_source=superhead

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    1. That Mogensen lying piece of shit fella is hardly a co-President.

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    2. Why don't they teach you trolls English before they send you out to annoy others?

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    3. “SpaceX could have brought them back several months ago. I OFFERED THIS DIRECTLY to the Biden administration and they refused”
      That fact does seem to support Musk’s allegation.

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    4. No, it doesn't. If arrangement had already been made for their return, why should Biden change his plans simply because Musk made an offer? Musk is alleges political reasons, but I see none in what you are quoting.

      Why wouldn't someone want to deal with SpaceX, given the chance? Because Musk is a nutcase!

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    5. SpaceX launches keep blowing up.

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    6. David in Cal,
      Did you run your belief that the President should be involved in all civil cases, like parking tickets and immigrants crossing the border, past your President? Is he okay with it eating into his golf time?

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    7. Personally, I support anything that keeps lazy, lard-ass President Trump off the golf course.

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  6. "“We have Trump and his oligarchy of ignorant shoe shiners vandalizing the network of organizations, agreements and values—largely put in place by America since the Second World War—which have given most of us, including America, on the whole an extraordinary degree of peace and prosperity… I love America and was once happy to regard its president as leader of the free world. Not any longer. Where are the American values that I used to admire?”

    — Chris Patten, former chairman of the British Conservative Party, quoted by the New York Times."

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    1. BS. I live in the UK and everyone I know is thankful Trump is the POTUS.

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    2. BS. I live in the UK and everyone I know despises Trump

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  7. And Navalny should've known better than ending up in prison, where it was certain that he would be murdered by Putin's regime.

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  8. Trump has been using terror tactics to push his nominees through Congress. According to Stuart Stevens:

    "“It’s tempting to compare Republicans to Prussian aristocrats in 1930s Germany. But Prussian aristocrats were more responsible. They were dealing with civil unrest and the threat of a communist takeover. Republicans today have historically low unemployment, a record stock market. What’s their excuse?”

    Political survival is one. Senate and House Republicans know Trump will orchestrate the running of a primary challenger backed by Elon Musk’s unlimited resources if a member defies him. But this is not the whole story of Republican subservience to the president. In private, Republicans talk about their fear that Trump might incite his MAGA followers to commit political violence against them if they don’t rubber-stamp his actions.

    “They’re scared shitless about death threats and Gestapo-like stuff,” a former member of Trump’s first administration tells me.

    According to one source with direct knowledge of the events, North Carolina senator Thom Tillis told people that the FBI warned him about “credible death threats” when he was considering voting against Pete Hegseth’s nomination for defense secretary. Tillis ultimately provided the crucial 50th vote to confirm the former Fox & Friends host to lead the Pentagon. According to the source, Tillis has said that if people want to understand Trump, they should read the 2006 book Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work. (When asked for comment for this story, a spokesperson for Tillis said it was false that the senator had recommended the book in that capacity. The FBI said it had no comment.)"

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-congress-political-violence

    The government-wide firings by Musk and DOGE are a reign of terror aimed at showing Republicans what will happen if they resist anything Trump/Musk want.

    This has to be illegal. Why aren't the courts doing something about it? Why is the public sitting still for it?

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  9. The video "Hostile Government Takeover" has a lyric toward the end that says "this ain't about left or right, we got to stop messing around".

    That's the message Somerby should be spreading. That's the most important thing being said on this topic. Trump and Musk aren't messing around. We need to stop messing around and STOP THIS by taking back our democracy and refocusing on the American people, not wannabe dictators, con artists, frauds and narcissistic billionaires. Somerby needs to stop calling these guys crazy and rally the people. If a song on TikTok gets this right, so can the rest of us.

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  10. "Jocelynn Rojo Carranza took her life after experiencing months of relentless bullying from her sixth grade classmates over her family’s immigration status, with some students even threatening to contact U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

    On February 3, Carranza’s single mother, Marbella Carranza, received a call notifying her that her daughter had attempted to take her life inside the family’s home in Gainesville, Texas. Her 11-year-old daughter was rushed to an intensive care unit in Dallas but died on February 8, according to a GoFundMe page."

    This shouldn't be happening in the richest nation on earth. We need to be better people. Trump and Musk encourage this crap and it filters down and hurts innocent children.

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  11. "President Donald Trump's Department of Homeland Security has taken the highly unusual step of revoking an extension of temporary protected status from roughly 520,000 Haitians in the United States — which will effectively flip more than half a million immigrants from legal to illegal in August, reported The Wall Street Journal."

    He did the same thing to Venezuelans with temporary protected status. This will expose those being evicted to severe danger in their countries of origin. It is not clear whether this is legal and Trump's order will be tested in court. These Haitians are the same people he told lies about during his campaign, saying they were eating cats and dogs.

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    1. I agree with David in Cal.
      Trump's over the top bigotry is political genius, because his voters are all bigots.

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    2. “The highly unusual step…” It would be more apt to say “the cruel, depraved, un-Christian and possibly illegal step…”

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  12. Gutfeld has a new fluffy cover story in Variety which crowns him "Late Night's New King."

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  13. Ipsos had Trump losing the election by 9 points

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  14. Zelenskyy is a dictator being dragged by Trump, as the war that Zelenskyy the dictator sent 700,000 men to die in comes to the sputtering end. Everyone predicted the outcome from day one, but evil Democrats and neocons caused the slaughter to continue anyway because they thought it would help their standing with voters which they needed to protect their sexual and psychological mutilation of children.

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    1. It is kind of funny that the only side desperately trying to end the conflict is the victorious invader who has to purchase North Korean mercenaries to fight his battles after burning through close to a million Russkies.

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    2. You had me at sexual mutilation of children.

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    3. 700,000 dead Ukrainians are acceptable because there are a million dead Russians.

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    4. Russia should never have invaded Ukraine.

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    5. I think Russia could have been deterred by appropriate action. But once they invaded they were committed.

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    6. Russia is the aggressor, and could end the war right now.

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    7. "700,000 dead Ukrainians are acceptable because there are a million dead Russians."

      Wrong arithmetic. 80% of the casualties are caused by artillery. For every artillery shell fired by the NATO army in Ukraine, the Russian army fires 5-6 artillery shells. And the Russian artillery advantage was higher at the beginning of the full-scale conflict in 2022.

      Consequently, the total casualties of the Kiev-controlled NATO army (what you call "Ukrainians", while in fact Ukrainians fight on both sides) are 5-6 or even 7 times higher than in the Russian army.

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    8. This is what awaits Ukraine as a result of orange chickenshit's ignominious and dishonorable betrayal of our ally:

      Bucha, a suburb of 37,000 about 20 miles northwest of the capital, Kyiv, has become a notorious symbol of Russian brutality. The Russians took it over within days of invading in February 2022, and in the month that followed, they killed more than 400 civilians, Ukrainian officials say, leading to global accusations of war crimes.

      Images from that time ricocheted around the world: The priest left dead in a garage, his mouth open. The church choir singer and his family, their limbs cut off, their bodies burned. The woman shot dead pushing her bicycle home on Yablunska Street.

      On Wednesday, many in Bucha seemed to be struggling to take in Mr. Trump’s comments. When the Biden administration was in power, the United States was Ukraine’s most powerful ally. Now they had many questions: Was Mr. Trump just speaking off the cuff? Was the United States really siding with Russia, a pariah on the world stage?

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    9. "Ukrainian officials say"

      Oh, do they, Soros-bot? Anything else?

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    10. Soros-bot didn't even steal from a children's cancer charity, like the longtime failed businessman, adjudicated rapist, and self-admitted sexual predator Donald J. Trump.

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    11. 6:26,
      Tired of the taste of Trump's taint yet?

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  15. Canada wins, because the USA has been a pushover since Trump was elected President.

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    1. Sadly, since Trump was elected President, the USA is looked at as a clown show, run by simps.

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  16. When 22 Nobel winning economists predicted that Trump’s presidency would be bad for the economy, they did not anticipate the job losses that are upcoming. The price of groceries and gas have now gone up and this is only the beginning. As has been proven over half a century, Republican administrations are comparatively bad for the economy c/w Democratic ones.The billionaires getting tax breaks will hardly suffer, with their ability to navigate using complex derivatives and private equity. By the midterms Trump’s approval rating will be back in the toilet as it was in 2021.

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    1. Dream on, Soros-bot.
      And meanwhile, keep whining.

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    2. If you can't cope with Republican voters being nothing but a shit pile of bigots, you can always pretend it isn't obviously true.

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    3. The smell of Trump's soiled diaper is an apt metaphor for the Republican Party.

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