MONDAY, APRIL 7, 2025
Where human discourse begins: 60 Minutes has been earning its stripes in recent weeks.
Last night, the program started with a deeply informative look at life among the dying and wounded of Gaza. For transcript and video of the segment, you can just click here:
Gaza's children struggle with life-changing injuries from ongoing Israel-Hamas war
Dr. Samer Attar is an orthopedic surgeon in Chicago, a professor of surgery at Northwestern, and recently, among the brave volunteers fighting for life in the war in Gaza.
Gaza is 25 miles long and home to two million Palestinians, descendants of those displaced in the 1948 creation of Israel. Gaza is ruled by a terrorist group called Hamas. And in 2023, Hamas attacked Israel—an atrocity—that, Israel says, killed 1,200 civilians, including 40 children, and captured 251.
Israel's war to free its hostages and defeat Hamas has killed an estimated 50,000 Palestinians, 15,000 of them children, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry. The U.N. says 92% of Gaza housing has been damaged.
Last week on 60 Minutes, Lesley Stahl reported on the trauma and torture suffered by Israeli hostages. Tonight, we have the story of the desperate fight to save Gaza's civilians through the charity of nations and the mercy of volunteers like Samer Attar.
That's Dr. Attar battling a stalled heart...
We always marvel at the work of people like Dr. Attar. Last week, 60 Minutes explored "the trauma and torture suffered by Israeli hostages." Last night, it was the suffering of paramedics—and the death and suffering of children—inside the borders of Gaza.
That was the program's first report. For transcript and tape of last night's second report, you can just click this:
U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records
Three weeks ago, 238 Venezuelan migrants were flown from Texas to a maximum security prison in El Salvador.
That country's president offered to take them and the Trump administration used a law not invoked since World War II to send them—claiming they are all terrorists and violent gang members.
The government has released very little information about the men. But through internal government documents, we have obtained a list of their identities and found that an overwhelming majority have no apparent criminal convictions or even criminal charges.
They are now prisoners...
That's the headline and the start of the transcript. Just for the record, "prisoners" is barely the word.
Eventually, the transcript says this about the people who were shipped to that "maximum security prison"—to a prison which may function more like a gulag, like a brutal gulag at that:
In October, Tom Homan, who is now the White House border czar, told 60 Minutes the Trump administration's mass deportation plan would start by removing the worst of the worst.
HOMAN (on videotape): We're gonna prioritize those with convictions. We're gonna prioritize national security threats. We have to do that. You gotta get the worst first.
But are they the worst? The Trump administration has yet to release the identities of the Venezuelan men it sent to El Salvador last month. We obtained internal government documents listing their names and any known criminal information. We cross referenced that with domestic and international court filings, news reports and arrest records whenever we could find them.
How about it? Are these men the worst of the worst? Is it even possible that some of these frog-marched, disappeared people aren't guilty of any kind of misconduct at all?
Everything is always possible, until it's shown that it isn't. Here's what 60 Minutes says it found when it says it conducted a search:
At least 22% of the men on the list have criminal records here in the United States or abroad. The vast majority [of the 22%] are for non-violent offenses like theft, shoplifting and trespassing. About a dozen are accused of murder, rape, assault and kidnapping.
For 3% of those deported, it is unclear whether a criminal record exists.
But we could not find criminal records for 75% of the Venezuelans—179 men—now sitting in prison.
In response to our findings, a Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said many of those without criminal records, quote "are actually terrorists, human rights abusers, gangsters, and more. They just don't have a rap sheet in the u.s."
Border Czar Tom Homan said immigration agents spent hours conducting rigorous checks on each of the men to confirm they are members of Tren de Aragua, a Venezuelan gang President Trump campaigned on eradicating.
According to 60 Minutes, they could establish that only a dozen of these men had been accused of murder / rape / assault / kidnapping. They said they could find no pre-existing criminal records for 75 percent of these people.
Are these men really the worst of the worst? Is it possible that some, perhaps many, of these people aren't bad actors at all?
Obviously, yes, such things are possible. For now, CBS says it conducted a search, and that's what CBS says it found.
In a rational and even a moral world, that would represent a starting point for a serious public discussion. That said, it's unlikely that we'll see any such discussion here.
For one thing, the current administration is "flooding the zone" with one event after another. This makes it hard for any topic to receive a full dose of attention.
Also, we don't live in any such rational / moral world at the present time. Our culture, such as it ever was, is withering away on the vine.
On the journalistic end, we're living inside a tribal corporate Babel. As one part of this system, people are paid to go on TV and recite bogus claims and they go on TV and they do it.
60 Minutes has been doing good work. It's the kind of thing which could make a person start to admire and respect a given nation's imperfect attempt at creating an admirable culture.
Bring the terrorists back you fascists!
ReplyDeleteTrump already pardoned them.
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ReplyDelete"Is it even possible that some of these frog-marched, disappeared people aren't guilty of any kind of misconduct at all?"
They are illegals, Bob. They are all illegal aliens.
All of them -- the worst of the worst and the best of the best -- are going to be deported, sooner or later. What's the point of nitpicking, bro?
Deport everyone, and let God sort it out.
DeleteSome of them have green cards or asylum letters, which means they are not illegally here.
DeleteWhy have you decided it is OK to be an intolerant tool 2:58?
Delete"Just to be clear, I’m not happy to watch women experience injury, humiliation, and a loss of sporting opportunity, but …”
ReplyDeleteJohn Oliver defending men crushing women in women's sports. The absolute state of Democrats.
They hate acknowledging the existence of real sex differences more than they like women. They think men are better than women so the rage is expressed by insisting on a false reality.
Cope, Soros-bot.
Delete"defending men crushing women"
DeleteThey also demand that people trying to root out government's waste, fraud, and abuse, are murdered.
Are there any clearer symptoms of a mental incompetence?
3:20,
DeleteHave you got down on your hands and knees and begged Colin Kaepernick for forgiveness, yet?
If not, what are you waiting for?
Some women can crush some men. They also have weight classes for competition among men. It is pitiful when average men try to piggy back off the accomplishments of other men to claim superiority over all women.
DeleteAll five of them are destroying the entire country. Weirdos.
DeleteIllegal immigrants have been propping-up Wall Street for far too long.
ReplyDeleteBesides anyone paying attention, who knew deporting illegal immigrants would crash the economy?
ReplyDeleteU.S. market vs global markets today:
Delete🇺🇸 S&P 500 +0.7%
🇯🇵 Nikkei -7.8%
🇭🇰 HS -13.2%
🇨🇳 SSE -7.3%
🇹🇼 TSE -9.7%
🇪🇺 EU50 -4.7%
🇬🇧 FTSE100 -4.4%
🇨🇦TSX60 -1.2%
🇲🇽 BMV -1.3%
🇩🇪 DAX -4.1%
🇮🇹 MIB -5.1%
🇫🇷 CAC40 -4.8%
🇮🇳 Sensex -3.1%
🇰🇷 KOSPI -5.6%
🇦🇺 ASX200 -4.2%
And by crash the economy, you mean bringing stock market levels down to where they were last year at this time, which was an all time high?
DeleteTrump has to deport immigrants, because he's a simp, who has no sway over any hiring managers.
DeleteThe S&P fell today, @4:11.
Delete4:22: so, Trump is aiming for Biden’s record, rather then lifting the markets? Good to know.
DeleteUS markets jumped way up to positive territory on reports tariffs would be rescinded. Market collapsed again when realized the weird orange fool was sticking with his Idiocracy.
DeleteU.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts has blocked the district court’s order requiring Kilmer Abrego Garcia be returned to the United States.
ReplyDeleteWho will stand up for this gangbanger's right to do harm to US citizens?
US citizens voted for high inflation rates.
Delete4:15,
DeleteYou make it sound like harming US citizens is bad.
"Who will stand up for this gangbanger's right to do harm to US citizens?"
DeletePeople who do their own research.
Are you new here?
A "gangbanger" with no criminal record in the US or in El Salvador?
DeleteA "gangbanger" who an immigration judge had ordered the DOJ NOT to be sent to El Salvador, but was sent there based on an admitted "administrative error"?
A "gangbanger" who isn't seeking a right to "do harm" but has been locked up for reasons the US government either can't or won't show in court?
Anyone who believes in justice will stand up for him.
4:15,
DeleteDon't over-estimate the American public.
They elected a rapist to be their President less than 6 months ago.
Granted, he was white, of course.
I agree with Bob that it is possible that some of those without criminal records aren't bad actor. The procedure used by ICE to identify Tren de Aragua might give the wrong result in some cases.
ReplyDeleteIt's also possible that some who have been convicted of a crime may not be bad actors. The trial may have given the wrong result in come cases.
No procedure for identifying Tren de Aragua members is perfect. ICE is using a consistent, reasonable method.
P.S. Bob makes a point of some of those have not even been arrested in the US. But, arrest without a conviction means no more than no arrest.
They should be put up to a vote.
DeleteLike Trump's crimes.
"ICE is using a consistent, reasonable method."
DeleteICE is unwilling to present the results of its "reasonable method" in court. They prefer to keep their findings secret.
David, get help
DeleteDeport David.
ReplyDeleteDeport John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and Clarence Thomas.
DeleteAs Bob well knows, these men were deported for being members of Tren de Aragua. The two key questions are
Delete1. Is Tren de Aragua so bad that people should be deported to an El Salvador prison simply for being a member?
2. Is there sufficient evidence that each of these deportees is a member of Tren de Aragua?
I don't know the answers. But, Bob's focus on individual criminal records fails to address these two questions.
"Is there sufficient evidence that each of these deportees is a member..."?
DeleteThe US government has chosen not to present any evidence, if it exists. CBS News tried to find some evidence and came up empty. These men were summarily dropped into a hole without any showing of evidence.
"Liberty and justice for all," eh?
The government has chosen to not present any evidence publicly. Unfortunately government, pols and media have misled us so often that we've lost confidence. In these untrusting days, nobody is confident of the private review of evidence that occurred. Or allegedly occurred
DeleteSay it David: Trump lies, his administration lies, and did the first time around. But if your statement is true, that “government, pols and media” have misled us, you should be demanding the current administration, media (all including Fox), and pols (including GOP) STOP misleading us. Instead, you simply deferred to their pronouncements.
DeleteDavid in Cal, a former actuary, didn't foreswear knowing how math works, to join a Republican Party that doesn't lead with its bigotry.
Delete@10:40 -- What good would it do for me, a nobody, to demand anything? "Hey, Mr. Trump, Ms. Pelosi, Mr Sulzberger: David in Cal demands that you stop misleading us!" Right.
DeleteAll I can do is to try to figure out reality by listening to all of them, looking for objective information and trying to reconcile all I'm told.
"All I can do is to try to figure out reality by listening to all of them, looking for objective information and trying to reconcile all I'm told. All while assuring bigotry is served by my final decision."
DeleteFixed with completeness of thought.
David in Cal's confession that he knows he's being lied to, but rushes to TDH to repeat the lies anyway, is a small step in the right direction, for him.
DeleteThe first step to fixing a problem, is admitting you have it.
Will other countries follow?
ReplyDeleteNetanyahu announces Israel will be ending their trade barriers and tariffs on the United States:
“We’re going to also eliminate trade barriers that have been put up unnecessarily. Mr. President, we are going to eliminate the tariffs."
This is the second fucking time you've come here panting with excitement to make the same fucking nothingburger announcement, Dickhead, you fucking fascist freak.
Delete6:28,
DeleteI heard Netanyahu's announcement. Unfortunately government, pols and media have misled us so often that we've lost confidence.
Remind me again, why I should believe a word he says.
@6:28 - You're learning.
Delete11:21,
DeleteYet, you haven't.
@11:21 My goal was to get you NOT to believe Netanyahu, as well as not believing all the other pols, government or the media
DeleteYour goal DiC is to be an ass. You win.
DeleteShouldn't the goal of white people be to stop being outclassed by immigrants on the job market?
DeleteDeport all members of the GOP.
ReplyDeleteThe Supreme Court grants the Trump administration’s request to continue to summarily remove noncitizens whom the gov't has designated as members of the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang under the Alien Enemies Act.
ReplyDeleteNot quite:
Delete“ The Court mandated that the government provide a minimum opportunity for due process to those slated to be removed under the law. The government must notify detainees that they’re subject to removal, the Court said, with enough time as to allow them to file habeas corpus claims challenging their deportation.”
Detainees have to file their habeas petitions in the district where they're detained. They may not have lawyers or family or any other resources available if they've been transferred across the country to Louisiana or Texas.
DeleteWe will need courageous and dedicated lawyers.
Delete"We will need courageous and dedicated lawyers."
DeleteThere's that intolerance for Right-wingers again.
They all loved Trump when he was a Democrat same goes for Elon. They lost them because the Democrats got too comfortable and just flat out lied about who they were. Now the people see their true colors and the blinders are off. It's America first, the way it should be
Delete"America first"
DeleteLOL.
Can you provide us the name of the Republican (politician or voter), who puts America before Russia or Israel?
I wish you all the luck in the world..
Liberals just can’t stop their attacks long enough to think through the things Trump has already done. He has actually made America better for its citizens and all the democrats can do is whine, cry, spout hatred and become violent.
DeletePlease go on. I know not what you speak of.
DeleteViolence is a sign of manhood.
DeleteYou won't see fans of the Incel Party damaging Teslas.
Easy for you liberals to say that rape is bad, but you haven't had to go through life in a world where women won't even give you a pity fuck.
ReplyDeleteAny heterosexual intercourse is a rape.
DeleteAny lovings good loving.
Delete----Randy Bachman
Trump really stepped-in it this time. He's pissing off all none of his voters who care about inflation and the costs of feeding their families.
ReplyDeleteI will blame Trump when actual inflation gets bad, not just projected inflation.
DeleteMany CEOs are saying we are already in a recession. That's what you voted for, Dickhead, isn't it?
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DeleteI am an idiot-Democrat and CEOs are my Gods.
9:55,
DeleteThanks for fighting the good fight for us Marxists.
Keep up the good work.
DeleteIf you were a Marxist, Soros-bot, you wouldn't be a Soros-bot spamming this comment thread.
Reminds me of when Trump gave that HUGE tax break to the rich and corporations, and Republican voters tried to overthrow the White House and shit on his desk.
DeleteGood times!